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Odds And Ends

Sorry about the down period for the site over the last few hours; my blogging service had a power outage.  Here are some evening links to peruse.

  • Phil Rogers of the Chicago Tribune speculates on what it would take to bring Jermaine Dye to the North Side.
  • Will Carroll of Baseball Prospectus gives his contribution to the rumor mill.  Interesting notes: the Angels' Nick Adenhart is untouchable; the Nats could acquire vets like Eric Gagne or Omar Vizquel for the draft picks; the Phillies could re-acquire Kenny Lofton if forced to use Shane Victorino in a trade.
  • Bugs and Cranks has a well written post about how sandwich picks are ruining the trade deadline.  However, I respectfully disagree.  The trade deadline rules.  It rules now and it always has ruled.  If you are the type of person who enjoys this site, you will find the trade deadline fun no matter how few big names change teams.  Rumors fly with reckless abandon.  Players you never thought available are suddenly in play, however unlikely.  Misinformation is spread like wildfire.  Is a trade deadline really judged on the biggest names to change hands, or is it just the thrill of the chase?  I vote for the latter.  I will be writing nonstop here on July 30 and 31, and trust me, it'll be great.

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HEAR HEAR! I have fun checking the site before the deadline and during the winter. I just hope my Astros surprise me and pull off a dandy!

I have to say its the money that is killing the trade deadline, if you agree its being killed.

Because baseball has so much money, teams don't have to unload big contracts, that has been said before

But its also that teams value their prospects so highly because the FA market is so expensive. It makes mid-range prospects too valuable, because they do for min. wage what FA's do for 10million a year. This is especially true for pitching.

You also have to wonder if GM's were more realistic more deals would get done. Royals asking for Matt Kemp for Dotel is just insane. Were I the Dodgers, I would probably just hang up the phone.

Why don't they just keep Dye...he's a sure 1st round compensation pick.

Yeah, half the fun of the deadline is rumors which will never go anywhere and the random-fans ideas about them. Agree or disagre, its great to hear what people think about different situations...


Anyway, it was said on ESPN (Onley maybe? Heard it as I was busy...) that the Rangers were asking for Adam Miller from Cleveland for Kenny Lofton. That's #1 Pit-pros for 38YO rental player who is pretty much a part-timer... Now that's nuts!!! No wonder the Tribe didn't leave town with him...

And like quintjs said, that's a real problem in the deadline deals at this point... We keep hearing these "KC wants Loney for Dotel", "KW wants 2 top-pros for Contreras", etc demands and its just insane ~ its like owners now just want a complete rebuild handed to them for their rentals and unwanted contracts ~ I know it would turn me off from dealing with some GMs.

Yeah, half the fun of the deadline is rumors which will never go anywhere and the random-fans ideas about them. Agree or disagre, its great to hear what people think about different situations...


Anyway, it was said on ESPN (Onley maybe? Heard it as I was busy...) that the Rangers were asking for Adam Miller from Cleveland for Kenny Lofton. That's #1 Pit-pros for 38YO rental player who is pretty much a part-timer... Now that's nuts!!! No wonder the Tribe didn't leave town with him...

And like quintjs said, that's a real problem in the deadline deals at this point... We keep hearing these "KC wants Loney for Dotel", "KW wants 2 top-pros for Contreras", etc demands and its just insane ~ its like owners now just want a complete rebuild handed to them for their rentals and unwanted contracts ~ I know it would turn me off from dealing with some GMs.

Sox fans would have no problem trading Dye to the Cubs if it brought in something worthwhile. Just like KW wouldn't have a problem with it. He will take the best deal possible, no matter who gives it, I'm sure even within the division.

The whole White Sox not trading to the Cubs is ridiculous. Not only have they made a ton of deals in the past, they're not even in the same league. Phil Rogers is usually a good writer but he's been in a slump this year. Guy's losing his mind. He's written 3-4 articles about the Freddy Garcia and Brandon McCarthy trades going back and forth each time on whether they were good or bad deals.

There's a distinct chance that Dye could re-sign with the team that he's dealt to, and I don't think Kenny Williams wants to take a chance dealing Jermaine to a team in the division or to the North Side.

Phil Rogers is completely off base with his packages he thinks the Sox would consider from the Cubs.

Cub-focused writers in Chicago have been trying to dump the likes of Jacque Jones, Matt Murton and Cedeno on the Sox for their most prized trade chips all season, and it just ain't gonna happen.

If the Cubs offer Pie for a prospect and Dye, there could be some interest there but Kenny Williams has his own scrubs and has no interest in taking on the Cubs'

Rogers has been a beat-writer for the Cubs on the Tribune for years and that Cubbie-bias dies hard, I guess.

"I don't think Kenny Williams wants to take a chance dealing Jermaine to a team in the division or to the North Side."

Why would it matter if Dye re-signed with the Cubs? Are the White Sox in the same division....how about league? GM's don't think like idiot fans and don't take into account meaningless rivalries.

"Cub-focused writers in Chicago have been trying to dump the likes of Jacque Jones, Matt Murton and Cedeno on the Sox for their most prized trade chips all season, and it just ain't gonna happen."

KW qould be ecstatic if he could get Cedeno and Murton for Dye. Dye is a sell low candidate. He is having a god awful year, is an impending free agent, and has battled injuries this year. If you think that is going to fetch you a blue chip prospect, you're bias for the White Sox (or anti-Cub)is clear and duly noted.

"KW qould be ecstatic if he could get Cedeno and Murton for Dye. Dye is a sell low candidate. He is having a god awful year, is an impending free agent, and has battled injuries this year. If you think that is going to fetch you a blue chip prospect, you're bias for the White Sox (or anti-Cub)is clear and duly noted."

... you said it Teetz!

Why can’t anyone else realize that hardly anyone would want this guy ~ that he just inst good enough to trade much for! Plus, there is really only like 2-3 teams which could use an OFer like him, and there are 3-4 better options available so do the math...

Whoa, six months ago Jermaine Dye was an MVP candidate.

He's having a bad season (mostly average, the power is still there) but I chalk that up to a series of minor injuries this season and being upset about his contract situation. Since the break, Dye's looked more like 2006 version.

He can help a contender and is one of the top power bats at the deadline. The Sox need young talented players to rebuild the squad and the likes of cubbie scrubs like Murton, Cedeno and Jones aren't going to get it done.

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