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Dodgers To Scout Contreras On Friday
The White Sox will grant Jose Contreras a showcase start on Friday, in hopes of unloading some of the $20MM owed to him from 2008-09. Contreras hasn't started since he was bombed by the Yankees on July 31st. According to Chris De Luca of the Chicago Sun-Times, the Dodgers will be in attendance when Contreras goes Friday in Seattle. The Mariners are actually a candidate to acquire him as well.
Contreras has thrown two consecutive scoreless relief appearances, and his last one lasted five innings against those same Mariners after Gavin Floyd was knocked around. I've seen that attributed to Don Cooper's recent tinkering, but can't find a link to that story.
As I mentioned before - it's either going to have to be a bad contract swap or the Sox eating half of Contreras's contract. He's cleared waivers, so he can be traded anywhere. Here's a list of others who have cleared waivers, but I don't see a sensible fit. I'm sure there are many more not on this list though.
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Can anybody name me the last time the White Sox ate a part of a player's contract? Reinsdorff would rather have Pacman Jones babysit his grandchildren than eat a piece of a bad contract in a trade.
Posted by: Teetz | August 15, 2007 at 03:44 PM
The Braves aren't mentioned in this? I figured they'd be top contenders.
Posted by: Chipper | August 15, 2007 at 03:51 PM
"The Braves aren't mentioned in this? I figured they'd be top contenders."
I hope they are, for the sake of the Mets. Getting Contreras into the NL East, but not onto the Mets is like Christmas coming early.
Posted by: nrmax88 | August 15, 2007 at 04:00 PM
nrmax agreed the Nl East could be even more powerful than the AL East and that is saying alot. every team in the NL East scores alot of runs and hits alot of HR's.Even the Nationals lol. Contreras coming to the Nl East for any team would be a heaven sent package for the rest of the division
Posted by: bravesrule14 | August 15, 2007 at 04:40 PM
"the NL East could be even more powerful than the AL East and that is saying alot"
lol, wtf are you smoking?
As a Sox fan, I pray Contreras has a phenomenal start Friday. Anything to get him off the Sox. He's too much to work on.
Posted by: astralpanda | August 15, 2007 at 05:08 PM
Why wouldn't the mets go after this guy? they wouldnt have to give up anything and John Maine has proven that even junkerball pitchers can have sucess in the NL (especailly in that ridiculously big stadium)
Posted by: themfightnwords | August 15, 2007 at 07:30 PM
I looked it up and notied Maine's splits indicate hes actually better on the road. however he has been rocked since the all star break so i guess teams are figuring him out. i am not sure what took them so long. I hold nothing against Maine, i am sure he is a nice young man but he his "stuff" is that of a journeyman pitchers. Even journeymen have sucess at some point i guess.
Posted by: themfightnwords | August 15, 2007 at 07:33 PM
"Can anybody name me the last time the White Sox ate a part of a player's contract?"
Damaso Marte.
Any other easy questions?
Posted by: cabiness | August 15, 2007 at 08:18 PM
John Maine is 26, throws in the mid 90s with movement, and is developing a changeup and slider. The reasons for his struggles are simple, every pitcher struggles at some point, and he is reaching the most innings he has thrown in one year. A junkballer and a journeyman he is not, struggling right now, yeah, struggling enough to add one of the 5 worst pitchers in baseball to your roster for 10 mil for 2 more years? Not even close.
Posted by: nrmax88 | August 15, 2007 at 09:27 PM
what would the Dodgers have to give up? Juan Pierre's horrible contract? Rafael Furcal? Nomar's got a no-trade claus.
Posted by: jskohl | August 15, 2007 at 09:33 PM
Nomar also has an injury. What kind of players would the Dodgers have to give up . What would happen if the Dodgers gave up a minor leaguer? Would the Whitesox and Dodgers have to work out how much money of the contract they would each take.
Posted by: kevybo1 | August 15, 2007 at 10:52 PM
Well the last time the Dodgers and Sox talked Contreras, KW asked for Matt Kemp. I'd certainly hope his asking price has gone down a bit. I'd very much be up for a Furcal for Contreras and Uribe deal(which Sox fan wouldn't?), kind of a bad contact for bad contact deal.
Posted by: astralpanda | August 15, 2007 at 11:27 PM
Trading Furcal wouldn't be a bad idea, especially if there is any possibility of signing ARod next year. Or, trading for Miguel Tejada. The Dodgers need to make room somewhere for a power bat.
Posted by: jskohl | August 16, 2007 at 12:18 AM
Wow. How can anyone sell that low on Furcal? You've got to be kidding. Furcal for Contreras and Uribe? That's crazy. Furcal is a good player.
Posted by: DentalPlan | August 16, 2007 at 05:20 AM
Furcal is on a bad ankle. Plus the Dodgers have Juan Pierre,and they don't need two lead off hitters. That shortstop opening could be a great hole for the Dodgers to fill this winter.
Posted by: jskohl | August 16, 2007 at 09:52 AM
nrmax either you are a mets fan or have never seen him pitch. he throws in the low 90's with some movement and poor control. theres a reason he got lit up when he was with baltimore.
Posted by: themfightnwords | August 16, 2007 at 10:58 AM
"nrmax either you are a mets fan or have never seen him pitch. he throws in the low 90's with some movement and poor control. theres a reason he got lit up when he was with baltimore."
Yes, because he was 23 years old and he wasnt ready. Dont be mad because your a bitter Royals fan, we all understand. Acting like you understand baseball when you really dont and coming to baseball forums to start arguing with Not Joe Morgan because he said a meaan witttoooo joke about the wedsox. Maine is better then every puitcher the Royals have in their rotation. I am not even going to argue with you. His numbers speak for themselves. Maybe he is tired right now, maybe dead arm, but take away his last 3 starts and his ERA is under 3, if not just above it, and that is good enough for me, but he is better then Gil Meche, and he isnt getting paid 10 mil a year.
Posted by: nrmax88 | August 16, 2007 at 01:44 PM
Gil Meche pitches in the toughest division in baseball, in a hitters park. Maine pitches in the 2nd best pitchers park in baseball in the NL. Meche throws in the mid 90's and has a devastating 12-6 curve when hes on. Maine throws a 92 mph fastball somewhere in the strike zone when hes on. if Meche was on the mets he would be your 2nd best starter (after orlando hernandez who has been excellant this year, i wont argue that)
Posted by: themfightnwords | August 16, 2007 at 02:22 PM
Lol, yeah whatever you say, but accoriding to me Gil Meche is nothing more then a Junk Baller journeymen who is pretty much washed up. See, I can say things without any justification also, your not the only one.
Posted by: nrmax88 | August 16, 2007 at 02:35 PM
Its like what we said before about a GMs resources, If a pitcher pitches in a good pitcvhers park, how dows that mean that he is not pitching well, just because he has a friendly park. You use what you have to play the best you can. I dont hear anybody saying Babe Ruth is overated because he played with a short porch. Its absurd. Maine has better numbers then Gil Meche, flat out, you cant deny it. I dont care about the field, division, whatever, nobody forced meche to go play for that joke of a franchise.
Posted by: nrmax88 | August 16, 2007 at 02:38 PM
the royals franchise is a joke, i wont deny that but they have direction and i think could potentially be good in 3-4 years. according to your argument, Chris Young is a better pitcher than Johan Santana. ok that makes sense.
Posted by: themfightnwords | August 16, 2007 at 05:34 PM
Does he have better stuff then Johan? Not even close. I dont know how you are saying that I said Young is better then Johan. Here is my question though. If one pitcher is in a big park taking advantage of his surroundings, and putting up better numbers then a more talented pitcher in a better hitters park, does that make him better? Would you rather have the guy with the better stuff in a park where weaker pitchers might put up better numbers then him in better pitchers parks, or the guy who will be putting up the better numbers. My point is that you can say all you want about their surroundings helping them, but you pitch where you pitch and your numbers are your numbers. You can say that Gil Meche is in a tougher division, worse team, tougher park, but still, Maine has the better numbers regardless of where he is pitching and who he is pitching against. You can say another guy pitching in Shea would be doing just as good or better with the same pitcher friendly surroundings, but you cant take away from the pitcher for using the big park he has to his advantage, he would be stupid not to.
Posted by: nrmax88 | August 16, 2007 at 09:46 PM