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Dodgers Willing To Trade Matt Kemp?

Matt Kemp is an incredibly valuable player.  Some would argue he's worth more than $50MM over the next three seasons of his career, and he'll cost a few million bucks.  Then there's Bill Plaschke, who feels Kemp's power and speed "have been negated by silly at-bats and baserunning mistakes."  By my calculation Kemp would have to make 742 baserunning mistakes per year to negate his .331/.364/.509 line. 

Plaschke has insider sources indicating that the Dodgers think their best chance to win would be to trade a very good young player like Kemp for a veteran.  U.S.S. Mariner recently noted just how dangerous the Dodgers' recent brand of "pro-veteran entitlement" can be.

The question then becomes: which teams match up for Kemp?  The Dodgers seem to want a veteran position player, and I imagine the guy would have to be under contract for at least two seasons and probably three.  Third base and the outfield corners might be the openings.

Third basemen who could work include Eric Chavez, Troy Glaus, and Scott Rolen.  I assume Garrett Atkins is too young.  Miguel Tejada could work here also.  In the outfield maybe Ken Griffey Jr. or David DeJesus would fit.  Dodger fans - do you have confidence in Ned Colletti to spin Kemp into an equally valuable veteran?



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I hate being a Dodger fan....

This has been the most frustrating, disappointing season since...2005. Plaschke is a moron but that does not mean I don't fully expect Dodger management to completely blame the Dodgers failure at the feet of the kids, despite them being the only thing keeping them out of last place.

now this would be funny.

Dodgers can trade Kemp to my Red Sox any day they want for a veteran

Carlos Lee for Matt Kemp? Please?

Carlos Lee swings a mean stick and his hustle can turn almost any single into a double. For the opposing team.

An OF of Pence (LF), Kemp (CF), and Scott (RF) would be cheap and productive for the Astros. Lee would be the big bopper the Dodgers seem to want. Problems with Carlos - he's locked up for a long time for a lot of money and he can't field very well.

(Initial thought: Abreu sign and trade after the season.

Initial response to self: C'mon, no way LA does that.

Reponse to self response: Dude, this *is* Ned Colletti)


Hey guys, what do you think about the Yankees picking up Abreu's option then moving him to LA for Kemp? Somewhat similar to the Sheffield deal from last offseason plus it frees up some money for the Rodriguez/Posada/Rivera resigning bonanza.

There's no way they will get equal value for Kemp if they explore a deal.

It's stupid they'd even think of exploring a deal with a player as potentially valuable as Kemp.

On behalf of the Orioles, I would like to start the Tejada for Kemp + another prospect negotiations. They have to make this work, for the O's sake...

I could see Abreu for Kemp going down. That's right up Colletti's alley.

I don't think Colleti would trade him for Abreu. Coletti is an idiot but he isn't that dumb. Abreu's production is probably worse at this point and the guy isnt even worth his contract.

How does Delgado for Kemp sound? Sounds great to me. Man would I love to have Kemp...ha

What a mistake it would be for the dodgers to trade Kemp, especially driven by the misgivings of Kent and some misinformed reporters. However, I recall earlier in the season Bernie Miklasz mentioning in passing a failed deal that involved Wilson Betemit and Matt Kemp for Scott Rolen.

Rolen wasn't producing at the time and nobody knew why. Of course sense then he's went under the knife.

If Rolen looks healthy enough to contribute, and given his recent statements about Larussa, this could be a somewhat realistic idea.

Bill Hall

I can't see anybody going after Rolen unless he shows he can play up to his previous abiltiy first.

Hmm, upon further review, the Astros gave Carlos Lee a no-trade clause for the first 4 years of his 6-year, $100 million contract.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/nl/astros/2006-11-24-carlos-lee_x.htm?POE=SPOISVA

They could always ask him to waive it, but since he lives in the Houston area, I doubt it would happen. One can always dream!

I second the Bill Hall comment.

The LA Times is basically picking up on some perceived attitude problems with Kemp and running with it. Because you know, he's the very first one to ever get into a disagreement with Jeff Kent. Its just ridiculous that getting rid of one of the few productive players this year is going to help *anything.* They would move him for a Cabrera or a Rios type maybe, not Abreu.

"If Rolen looks healthy enough to contribute,"

That was years ago...you can't trade that kind of talent for an 11 mil or so guy that is going to get hurt. He isn't worth trading Kemp, let alone him and another prospect.

In doing my Carlos Lee research, I came upon the following bit of insight from Tim Purpura. It is about the Woody Williams signing, which happened about the same time as the Carlos Lee signing.

"Woody Williams is a veteran pitcher who pitches with guts and guile."

That explains Purpura's failings. He doesn't realize that pitchers actually throw with their arm and that the guts are a relatively unimportant part of the body for pitchers, unless one is talking about abdominal muscles.

Thinking about it, more often than not you cannot trust the press with this type of story. You're seeing sensationalism to spark a dispersion of blame for a failed season in LA.

"Thinking about it, more often than not you cannot trust the press with this type of story. You're seeing sensationalism to spark a dispersion of blame for a failed season in LA."

Which is awesome because it shows just how little Plaschke understands baseball.

I think most of you guys are missing the point of this actually going down. If Kemp is traded it won't be for an OF.

We could trade kemp for infielder, filling a hole with a proven vet, and then have a spot in the outfield, in which we would use the free agent market (hunter, jones, etc)...This way losing Kemp, we get 2 proven vets, vs just swamping him for an OF and having a larger salery to pay.

In my eyes the only way Kemp goes, is for infielder and assuming we have lock on proven outfielder.

No, lee, No Aberu...not happening.

Plaschke is an idiot in general, not just about baseball.

Someone better take advantage of Dodger retardation before they come to their senses.

Kemp for Burrell!

A trade centered around Kemp for Tejeda makes the most sense if this scenario is actually going down

Tejada to play third? He's have to fight it out with Nomar.
I think there was some article this morning about Kemp/Kershaw for Johan and an extension. I wonder if they could get it changed to Ethier/LaRoche/Kershaw. Geez that would still be pretty awful if Kershaw turns out.

Troy Glaus and Jason Frasor.

Glaus? lol. I rather have nomar.

"Kemp/Kershaw for Johan"

Now that is something to think about. Could Minnesota not make that move knowing that, even with the new stadium revenues, Johan likely prices out of their range? Would LA do it without getting an extension up front? I'm of the belief that the Twins should move Santana this offseason to maximize their return rather than just play for 2008 so this intrigues me. Not many teams could put together a package to top that.

(Of course, that would be perhaps the ballsiest new GM move of all time; it was probably more likely with Ryan at the helm)

Oh I love it... Yeah Coletti, trade Kemp, thats the ticket! My god, is he determined to turn the future Dodger's into the current Giants? I swear, a "veteran presence" is so overrated its ridiculous. Kemp is going to be one of the Top 5 VALUES in all of baseball next year.... Man, just ridiculous.

Think they would trade Kemp for Renteria and have him play 3B??? As a Braves fan I'd love to see that. Make it happen Coletti!

Colletti would make quite an impression if he spun Kemp & Kershaw into Johan. I'd hate it as a Padres fan as Johan would completely dominate the NL but some Peavy v. Santana match-ups would definitely get things exciting down in SoCal.

This might be the craziest thing I've posted on here but along with those 2 studs, maybe the Twins would take on Juan Pierre as well, if the Dodgers ate some of the salary. The need is there for the Twins in CF and throwing Pierre into a bounty with Kemp & Kershaw wouldn't necessarily add value to the trade, but it doesn't take away either, given the need.

He takes value away unless L.A. is eating well over half his remaining salary.

Dodgers need another starting pitcher..... Kemp for Dontrelle Willis

I heard that clayton kershaw/kemp for Johan genuine rumor today on the radio. The Twins would put kemp in center to take hunter's absence and i think kershaw would fit well in the twins pitching but i dont think the twins should do this because johan is too essential to the twins organization

Dodgers would have to add at least another top prospect to get Johan the BEST pitcher in all of baseball.

another top prospect in addition to Kemp and Kershaw for one year of Johan...Who would you suggest?

All I have been doing is waiting for the useless veterans' contracts to end so the Dodgers had some more money to work with and now they are going to trade away the young players to add more useless verterans?! If they are going to trade Kemp, they had better get a stud in return. And if experience is so important, why don't the Dodgers package Nomar and Pierre together for a rookie like Ryan Braun. The Brewers would probably see that as a steal with all the experience Nomar and Pierre have. Ha!

Hmmm... I wonder if the White Sox had anything that would make the Dodgers give up Kemp... I doubt it, maybe Thome for Kemp and then the Sox move Dye to DH and the Dodgers get there big bat in the middle of the order?

I'd have to say no go on that trade... Our pitching is good for next year and we can wait for Johan until he hits the market after next year.

Lets focus on 3rd and 2nd. (Lets meaning Dodgers)

Never mind about Thome for Kemp, Thome cant play 1st and there's no DH's in the NL.

Maybe Jonathon Broxton considering the Twins will most likely be getting rid of Joe Nathan soon.
So Broxton, Kershaw, and Kemp for Santana

It would have to be Konerko and not Thome because Thome can't play 1st. We all know he cant last a full season at 1st and plus that trade is stupid

ok you caught yourself.

Ok Barroid do you honestly think the Dodgers would do that? For one year of Johan? Why not just sign his a FA? That would be insanity. Broxton is already a known commodity. Not to mention *if* Kemp was traded who is in the outfield? Hunter/Jones? Nobody's looking at this from the POV that it makes very little sense for the Dodgers and is only being drummed up by a moronic journalist who hates prospects.

It was suggested before in this topic that the Twins would resign him then trade so I was going off that

If Johan resigns with the Twins he will get a full no trade clause, guranteed. Santana isnt a idiot and wont allow the Twins to sign and trade him.

ok then lets go to what i said before that.
Kemp for Dontrelle Willis

I really think as mentioned above if Kemp were trade it would be for a position player not a pitcher. Besides, after the year willis had...why?

I say no trading!

Pitching:
Penny, Lowe, Chad, Wolf, Schmidt/Loreza

Lineup:
Pierre, Martin, Kemp, Arod, Loney, Kent, Ethier, Furcal

That'd be nice...If these younger players (loney, kemp) played a full season we'd have the division on lock....AZ gets to enjoy this year, but next it's over.

Kemp will be starting for the dodgers next year, regardless of what the media says.

If you are waiting for Johan to hit the free agent market keep dreaming. Either the Twins resign him in the off-season or they trade him (either in the off-season or during the 08 season). No way in the world that the Twins will let Johan go for just two supplemental picks. My guess is that he is gone this winter and the Twins start to rebuild.

Whoever the Twins trade him to will want time to negotiate a long-term deal. Who is going to fork over 3 top prospects plus others for just a year of service? The Twins will be able get whatever they want if the other team can sign Santana to an extension.

What about Jason Bay? Bay is under contract for pretty cheap for a few more years, the Pirates are always looking to dump salary, Bay is a corner outfielder with some pop.

As a Jays fan I would trade Alex Rios for Matt Kemp and Chin-Lung Hu. The idea would then be to take Rios' money and give it to a top flight LH bat next offseason.

Rios is a young 5-tool player who plays a great RF and a good CF. I think it would be a fair trade. At least much more so than Glaus or Burrell or some such thing.

Nah, Jason Bay's trade value is very low with his bad season this year. I'm thinking Xavier Nady and/or Matt Morris and/or Damaso Marte.

A Kemp for Rios trade would be more fair and whats the point of trading 1 young stud Outfielder for another? and statsmonger are you serious about those players? Were talking bout Johan Santana and you bring up Xavier Nady, Matt Morris, and Damaso Marte

If there is any truth to this, and I really doubt it, there is the smallest chance manny could be involved


I'd be all over that if I was Boston, especially if Arod opted out.

Well Rios is a more "in his prime" type.. Kemp probably has a few years to go before he's a true impact player. His approach is still rather poor. That being said, what they need is a cleanup hitter and Im not sure Rios can be that.

The Johan Santana for Matt Kemp and Clayton Kershaw rumor is picking up steam, as foxsports and yahoo are now both reporting it as legit.

Placshke is an idiot, but so is Colletti, so trading Matt Kemp is a possibility. The current Dodger kids are full of potential and are going to be special. That Kershaw/Kemp for Santana speculation is the only trade I would support. If Colletti makes another "brilliant" move and trades Kemp for another worthless veteran, it's time to root for the Angels. :-(

Matt Kemp reminds me of Marlon Byrd when he was a top prospect except with better speed.

NotTheMorgy…

“(Initial thought: Abreu sign and trade after the season.
Initial response to self: C'mon, no way LA does that.
Reponse to self response: Dude, this *is* Ned Colletti)”

…Classic!


So anyway, to sound off on the topic I actually think Kemp + PitchPros ends up going to Cleveland for Cliff Lee / Josh Barfield / Arron Fultz / David Delucci. Allows them to pass up Kent to free up money, adds needed bullpen depth and gives them yet another under-achieving SP to desperately hold onto (we all know they love um…). Inturn they take the 3 players Cleveland would most like to get rid of and a bullpen arm for a mega-star-in-the-making and the Pitch/Pros will probably be a good one because LA loves to bendover for the Tribe…

darkstar, i hope that trade proposal was sarcasm, because I cant seem to grasp how that trade helps out the Dodgers. Tony Abreu is already being groomed to take over Kent's job, but Kent is already coming back next year, as his option kicked in when he hit the designated amount of Plate appearances. nonetheless, seeing the turmoil in Dodgertown lately with vets vs. youngins, and the fact that Colletti=idiot, no trade proposal surprises me.

Nope, 100% unrealistic trade proposal between the Indians and Dodgers that I wouldn’t be surprised one bit to see take place…

A couple things makes this trade seem like a possibility to me:
A ~ It’s the Dodgers…
B ~ They love those mediocre pitchers who have shown a flash of ability…
C ~ Dellucci was born to be a Dodger…
D ~ It’s the Dodgers…
E ~ They’ll probably trade Abreu; or atleast bury him in the minors for years and years to come…
F ~ Cleveland doesn’t really want any of those players, of course the Dodgers would…
G ~ It’s the Dodgers…
H ~ Having a full infield didn’t keep them from falling all over themselves for LgAvg Furcal, why would having a guy for second keep them away from Barfield…
I ~ The Dodgers love to get guys from Cleveland, they want all our trash for some reason…

Oh, and did I say it’s the Dodgers?

:)

Colletti will find some way to screw this up. He has got that San Francisco mentality. Dodgers fans are desperate for some power. I don't seem to mind Kent coming back, as long as he has some protection. CALI STYLE is absolutely right, if Kemp is traded, it's going to be for an infielder. Tejada makes the most sense because he has three years left on his deal. This would leave a perfect opening for Tori Hunter or Andruw Jones. LA needs a complete makeover.

Since everyone is enjoying what we would personally throw out from our favorite teams for Kemp, I'll do so for my Royals.

I'd send Dejesus for Kemp straight up, or Teahen + a pitcher for him.

Bye Bye Rolen, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

But seriously - The Dodgers made moves for Rolen in the middle of the season, after this surgery he'll supposedly be healthy (although personally, I think the Scott Rolen of 3-4 years ago is never coming back) I'd take Kemp for Rolen.

When i first read this,im thinking colletti wants to bring in bonds if he wants to trade kemp. im wont be surprised colletti likes bringing in former giants: mueller, kent, sweeney, schmidt,tomko (gone)

If the Cards were smart they would trade Rolen for a sack of potatoes if another team would pick up his remaining contract (3ys/$36m).

Same goes for Tejada. The guy has 2/26 on his deal. You would need to give up something but certainly not a blue chip prospect like Kemp. Just for Renteria for a lot less if that is your strategy.

Darkstar, my memory must be slipping, because i cant think of a single current Dodger who was a former Indian. In the last couple of years, the only one that stands out is Kenny Lofton. But I re-read your first post, and than your second post, then i looked up the stats of the tribe players you mentioned, when I realized your point flew over my head.

I don't believe the Matt Kemp rumblings are anything but noise. However, if the Dodgers were serious (and Colletti lubs him some veterans), the Red Sox actually match up fairly well.

A Manny for Kemp swap makes some sense for both sides, if the Sox kicked in a small amount of cash and the Dodgers were able to pick up Manny's options.

What would make even more sense, but would involve several moving pieces, would be a scenario where the Dodgers send LaRoche and Kemp to Boston for some variation of Manny, Lowrie and a pitching prospect not named Buchholz.

This is, of course, if Lowell signs elsewhere and A-Rod stays put.

Quite frankly, it's a shame the Dodgers are saddled with Pierre, because the Red Sox have one speedy Gold-Glove-caliber centerfielder too many, and Crisp was bred for National League ball.

Haha, Troy Glaus for Matt Kemp? As a Blue Jays fan, where do I sign up on that one.

If Manny to the D's makes SO MUCH SENSE, why wasn't it done last fall when the rumors were flying about it? I forget who the Red Sox were asking for but I assume it was laughable.

Ben Maller (fox sports radio) said the a Dodger's "person" told him that Kemp isn't liked in the clubhouse and is "uncoachable". Supposedly, he's a prima-donna already and acts like he's a big star already.

I'm not saying this is true, just repeating what was said on the radio show.

If the Cubs get A-Rod. How about Matt Kemp for Aramis Ramirez?

Oh and Bill Plaschke is an absolute moron.

I am very, very skeptical of the Kemp and Kershaw for Santana rumor. Do you have a link to a published source?

I couldn't find the source post, but apparently is was in the rumors section at foxsports.com.

Here is the text of that post, as posted at http://www.sportsline.com/mcc/messages/chrono/4028059

"Twins left-hander Johan Santana may end up with the Los Angeles Dodgers in 2008. According to sources close to the team, Los Angeles is considering an offer that would send lefty pitching prospect Clayton Kershaw and young outfielder Matt Kemp to Minnesota. Kemp would replace Torii Hunter in centerfield. Kershaw, who might be the top prospect in all of baseball, would step into the rotation for Santana. -- FoxSports.com"

Just passing along the info as I was able to find it since I couldn't find the exact foxsports post.

J.L.,

Manny to the Dodgers wasn't done last offseason because he was coming off a 1.058 OPS season, his best in four years, and the Red Sox were asking for a king's ransom that included Broxton, Loney and Kemp/Laroche.

Now he's one year older with more wear and tear, and one year closer to the end of his contract. Of course, he's still one of the premier hitters in the game, and his recent decline and injury may reduce the bounty to a point where teams with a win-now mentality are willing to take a "gamble" on a force in the middle of their lineup.

Kemp for Manny. that is what hte Dodgers want right, to rebuild the pre-World Series red sox? Grady, Lowe, Nomar and now Manny.

How about this:

David DeJesus (CF) and Mark Teahen (3B) for Kemp plus a couple of prospects?

WhipIt, i think what you heard may hold some water, since Lowe did say some of the kids were walking around the clubhouse thinking they were "bulletproof." I don't like where this road is headed.

Dave, don't forget Bill Mueller.

Both Plaske and Colleti are Morons. They need to get away from LA as far as possible.

It's put up or get out for Coletti. He is saving his last chance for A-Rod. So getting rid of Vet $$ instead of Kemp makes more sense. Kemp's skills remind me of Willie Mays and the Dodgers need some swager and attitude. Kent has got to go..said it last year HE IS A DEFENSIVE NIGHTMARE.no range. KEEP kemp and focus on A-Rod

The irony of people like Kent and Derek Lowe questioning someone's character...

ARod would pretty much solve all the Dodgers problems. Power. Third Base. True Star Presence. Too bad it'll never happen. He would own LA.

"Haha, Troy Glaus for Matt Kemp? As a Blue Jays fan, where do I sign up on that one."

Then go spend the same $ Glaus was making on someone like Lowell to fill the 3b void. I'd hope JP would pull the trigger on this one in a second.

While I think the Dodgers are foolish to consider trading Kemp, I think it would have to be for a big name for them to pull the trigger. The Santana rumors make sense, if they get a window to negotiate an extension. They could even make it Kemp, Kershaw, and T. Abreu for Santana and Alexi Casilla. I could also see Kemp in a Jason Bay offer, since Bay would be a cleanup hitter who has a very reasonable contract (and will likely have a bounce-back year). They'd be smarter to offer Ethier and Broxton for Bay and a pitcher, though, and keep Kemp to go with Bay in the lineup. Of course, that assumes Colletti doing something smart.

The Kemp/Kershaw for Johan actually makes sense to me. I do agree that Ned Colletti is a moron at times. I do not like the idea of a veteran presence, however he comes from SF where the entire lineup is comprised of players who are 32 years of age or older.

Back to what I was saying. If the Dodgers do indeed trade Kemp and Kershaw for Johan, then it would make a lot of sense for the Dodgers to make a trade for Jason Bay as well. Altough Bay had the worst season of his career, he is still young and very cheap compared to the $$$ Torii Hunter and Andruw Jones will be asking for. Jason Bay is a middle of the order bat, although he does not have that "star" tag. A trade of Delwynn Young or Tony Abreu plus a pitching prospect could get this trade done. Throw Andy LaRoche into the mix and it could be possible for the Dodgers to pry Ian Snell and Jason Bay from the Pirates. I wouldnt mind that all. Remember Delwynn can play 2b as well as Abreu. So there will be one left to take over for Kent.

Furthermore, I'd like to say that a trade for Jason Bay would still leave the Dodgers enough money to sign Johan long term, as well as enough money to sign other players, such as a 3b or even another OF (if the OF becomes depleted from other trades).

I try to remain confident in Ned Colletti. However, like i said before he seems to have that San Francisco mentality at times. Signing Schmidt was a prime example. That money is essentially wasted. However, I do like when he makes acquisitions such as signing Gonzo and David Wells. Those types of veterans are valuable, especially to a club with so much good young talent.

Hope this post made some sense. I'm kind of tired at the moment.

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