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Astros Acquire Miguel Tejada

UPDATE, 12-12-07 at 4:41pm: Richard Justice notes that Tejada can demand a trade after the '08 season.  That hadn't occurred to me; it diminishes his value to the Astros.

UPDATE, 12-12-07 at 12:04pm: Rosenthal says Tejada is expected to play short for the Astros; Adam Everett's time may be up.  Tejada's offensive output looks a lot better coming from short than it does coming from third, though it may be a moot point if Ty Wigginton is manning the hot corner.

FROM 12-12-07 at 11:42am:

This comes as a surprise, on the heels of a Rosenthal report to the contraryJeff Zrebiec says the Astros have acquired Miguel Tejada for Luke Scott, Matt Albers, Troy Patton, Dennis Sarfate, and Mike Costanzo

That's a fine haul for Baltimore.  The Astros pretty much cleaned out their farm system for two years of an average-hitting third baseman.  The average NL 3B had an .804 OPS in '07; Tejada was at .799 in the AL.  I know some readers think I'm an Astro-hater but that's not the case.  I just think they gave up way too much here.  Patton was ranked their third best prospect by Baseball America, Costanzo sixth.  Scott is a cheap quality regular, and Albers was third on the team's 2007 top prospect list.


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I think this deal is pretty fair. I'm puzzled as to who is going to pitch for the Astros. I mean, I wasn't impressed by Patton and Albers a ton, but someone has to pitch 4 & 5. This trade makes the Astros the 2007 Reds. Tons of offense, little pitching after their ace. As someone earlier said, Oswalt will probably win 20+ games. I think the Astros just got themselves into competition for 3rd or 4th place, but one of the Brewers, Reds, and Cubs will finish 1,2.

The Giants signed Rowand. Now, if the Astros had done that, whoever the guy is who runs this site would've jumped all over Ed Wade. It's just a questionable move though, when the Giants do it. Funny.

"I think this deal is pretty fair"

No doubt, I see a wash. Bottom line is that Patton and Albers arent top-tier prospects. Patton maybe becomes a #3, but Albers?? Scott,Sarfate,Costanzo?? Not one difference maker in the bunch.

I agree TrueCubs...
Houston helped themselves but they only took their offense from one of the Worst to borderline top 10-12..

While there Bullpen is BAD... Lidge GONE, Wheeler GONE, Sarfate GONE, Albers GONE, and Patton GONE.

Rotation is Roy O...then Brandan Backe... then what Wandy Roderguiz(he can only pitch in Houston).

Not to mention the Brewers, Cubs and Reds still have better O, and Better Pitching.

I am still not sold on the Reds chances yet... they need another Starter. harang is good.. Arroyo..is more of a #3 guy.
and then they have nothing else really..Bailey struggled last year when he got the chance..did not show nearly the promise that Yovanni Gallardo showed.

The Astros essentially offered quantity, not quality. Matt Albers and Troy Patton are both good pitching prospects, but neither has a high ceiling, and they're probably both decent back of the rotation guys. Luke Scott is a great platoon player and a mediocre starter, and Sarfate and Costanzo don't appear to be on track to make a huge impact in the majors. You also have to consider the Astros are non-tending Adam Everett because of this deal, so they're losing him too. I think this deal definately makes Houston a worse team, because the dropoff from Everett and Tejada isn't as big as people think. Everett is an awful hitter, probably one of the couple worst in the majors, but he also might be the best defensive SS there is right now. Tejada should play quite well in Houston, but the defensive dropoff is huge. Considering all of the other talent they gave up, and how bleak their future looks, this deal seems like its setting up the Astros to be a disaster by 2010. They have no farm system and bunch of older guys signed to expensive long term deals. Their lineup is decent but their rotation will be awful.
CF Bourn
2B Matsui
RF Pence
1B Berkman
LF Lee
SS Tejada
3B Wigginton
C Ausmus/Towles

The middle of the order is really quite good, but their top of the order doesn't provide much other than speed.

I think the Os literally have so many holes to fill that this kind of trade was necessary to justify a trade for elite prospects Bedard would bring...from the critics of the Os, what I'm hearing here is that Patton is a #3 SP at best and the rest is a bunch of parts...the thing is that the Os needed an several legit RPs, OF, and maybe starting pitching depth to add into the deep mix there...in addition to the players from this trade, imagine if we throw in elite prospects that Bedard would bring...and the quality parts Roberts would bring...all of which will see ML service time inthe near future if not in '08...

...well, that's exactly what the Orioles need to be doing...

...in addition, if the parts the Orioles get end up being servicable ML average guys in the pen and OF, then that is pretty good...sure, we all pay attention when we hear about Nathan, Liriano type of steals...that's the sexy thing to talk about...but, that's trying to anticipate the next lightning strike...if Patton "JUST" becomes a #3 SP I say that is pretty great...the Orioles do have a lot of starting pitching...Bedard was below the radar for a long while for different reasons, but the guys that the Os have right now are the same level of potential as Bedard was at their same ages...

I agree that it was a great move on Baltimores part. I just think Ed Wade has no idea what the hell he is doing. He's running that organization into the ground. They'll be the worst team in baseball in 3 years, I think

A Orioles trade in 1999 comes to mind...the Os were being bashed for fire selling their team and one of the players they dealt was Juan Guzman FOR Jacobo Sequea and B. J. Ryan...niether guy the Os got were expected to be more than ML average at best at that time...it turns out that the Os traded a guy who wasn't going to be on the team longterm anyways for an eventual elite closer...the Os never recouped that value when they allowed BJ to leave...but it is just a anecdote to how even if a lot of no-names get swapped, some of them might pan out...5 players for 1 is pretty good if you consider that these guys aren't all have a better shot than Jacobo Sequea or BJ Ryan did to be ML regulars...

The Stros have been making bad trades of pitching for the last several years...they are paying the price at some point...it's good for the Os...but, it's bad for the Stros...what is it in the water of Texas that having strong offense superceeds everything else?...

scribbletone, if those guys are as fast as projected, which is to say *very fast*, then that should be good enough. Even with a .340-.350 onbase, they could score 100 runs in that lineup. Any kind of hitting at the top of the line up would be a waste anyways, with Ausmus and the pitcher ahead of them.

Matsui posted a .304 OBP on the road last year, so I think his OBP will be more like .325 next season. And while Bourn should be close to that, he's not a given either.

"Any kind of hitting at the top of the line up would be a waste anyways, with Ausmus and the pitcher ahead of them."

I'm not even sure what this means. Because actually the Astros have a fantastic middle of the order, and getting guys on base before they get up will be integral to that offense.

miguel tejada? Worst signing of the offseason? I love it as a Cubs fan!!!

Astros fans should crucify Wade during the 7th inning stretch, then kill themselves

.....then set fire to Minute Maid Park and destroy any evidence that there was once a major league team there

they should change the name of Minute Maid Park back to Enron Field

mikeks: go choke on a piece of ivy, while continuing to cheer for the biggest joke of a franchise in baseball.

Hey Mikieks - Bl;ow up the stadium - kind of like what they should have done to Wrigley 30 years ago. This coming form a team who dropped a 120 mil on an outfielder and got swept in the playoffs and signed a guy who never has seen MLB pitching for 48 mil.

We gave up garbage and got a superstar SS.

Patton = future #3-5 lefty
Scott = over 30, bad D, some pop
Albers = will be lucky to ever crack a rotation
Costanzo = lol
Sarfate = HARD thrower, really only has a FB

This upgrades the Astros from Adam Everett, the worst offensive starting SS ever.

Bourn - .270 50+SB
Tejada - .305 30HR
Pence - .310 35HR 20SB
Berkman - .305 35HR
Lee - .305 30HR
Wigginton - .285 20HR
Matsui - .270 30SB
Towles - .280 25SB


BEST LINEUP IN NLC.

A Cubs fan here and from my humble viewpoint, I really don't think the Astros did all that bad. In fact, barring any major findings from the Mitchell investigation, the addition of MT boosts an already solid lineup. I think there are some MAJOR concerns about your bullpen as some of the young arms (which you guys tend to pull out of thin air) are now gone. Certainly a dreamer when I say that hope this means a couple of pickups (Roberts and Bedard) for the Cubs. Hey, we got Dempster... any takers?

WHIPit... Not in complete disagreement about the the Astros having best line up in the NLC... In fact, I have a feeling MT will find that short porch to be a regular target and 30+HRs isn't unrealistic. I'm just not sure that you have the arms - which maybe your GM is considering the many great options out there (have I mentioned a bucket of baseballs for Dempster?!?). And for what its worth, Everett might be horrible offensively, but DAMN that boy's got a glove! Oh, are those projected stats or actual stats?

Burke for Dempster straight up.

lol

Right on, man! Go grab a Lone Star and I'll grab an Old Style... cheers!

What a horrible trade by the Astros. 5 young prospects for a mediocare player is redicuosly stupid. Tejada is deffinently worth 5 pretty good prospects. Wow.

WHIPit: You must be a complete fucking idiot. There is no indication that any of the Astros next year will put up close to those numbers...Bourn 50 steals? where did you pull that stat from? your ass? Will he get on base 50 times throughout the season?Towles .280&25SB? Where the hell did that come from?IDIOT....Berkman .305.....he hit .278 last year....Pence 35 HR's...man you are stupid!!!
Third best line-up behind The Brewers and of course The Cubs

not to mention the worst pitching in the NL beyond the Marlins, Nats, and .....well i guess thats it? Well i guess you can kill yourself now

An average third baseman? You're kidding, right? Take a look at his his offensive stats over the past 7 years. He missed 29 games last year, after playing EVERY GAME, the previous 5 years.

His fielding % has stayed at .971% through out his career, which is by no means, the bottom of the heap for SS's.

Give me a break......

This is basically a homer Cubs fan site. If the Astros or Cardinals make any moves, then they are automatically "stupid" and trashed like crazy on the board. If we somehow pulled off a Santana trade for next to nothing, then some of you Cub fans would find something to pick at about it. Give it a rest.

I'll break this down for you:

Luke Scott: He had no place to play regularly in the lineup, and he isn't very consistant. But he is a good power bat and an ok defender.

Dennis Safarte: Didn't see much of this guy, but he has a strong arm that is stricken with poor control. Kind of a hit or miss guy.

Costanzo: He is a power third basemen in the minors. But he is 30 years old, and doesn't hit fo rmuch average. Not a good defender either.

Matt Albers: For two years, Albers pitched marginally for the Astros. he had good outings and bad. But he didn't ever really show much dominance in his outings.

Troy Patton: This is the only part of the deal I regret. He is the one prospect that I didn't want to see go. He was great in the minors.

He's a stubby little man. No longer effective....That's just life....

Mikeks - Quit the flaming. Berkman has been a career .300 hitter but faltered this year. There's little indication he won't return back to form next year. Some of those predictions are slightly more embellished, but that doesn't mean they're possible. I believe he was trying to give a prediction of what the new lineup could provide if the right chemistry and spark is there.

I have to agree with what aggieastro said, but I also want to add that part of the deal that really hurts, for me as an Astro fan, is losing Everett. He was a ninja out there, and was fun to watch even when our offense was pitiful. The other thing I dislike about the deal is losing pitching and more of our already weak farm system. I also take issue with the fact that Wade keeps stating that he doesn't feel we're at the point to rebuild. While I still think we can get things done by FA signings this year and in the future I'd like to know that we have some home grown prospects in the workings such as Pence.

I still think it's worth looking into acquiring some more FA arms even if they aren't amazing just to have a little more depth.

I definitely think we'll be better than last year because our rotation for the most part will be the same, and our relief core, although different, is pretty much on par with last year. Like aggieastro said, we'll have better offense, and I believe our pitchers will actually relax more. I think Wandy was so bad on the road because he was nervous because we never gave him run support.

I do have to question some of Wade's moves, but I'm not going to haphazardly exclaim that he's bad. I'm interested to see which direction he takes the Astros in over the next couple years. Sometimes a plan cannot be seen just from one season of questionable trades.

The Brewers have the best lineup in the NLC. The top of the Astros projected lineup is not good. Kaz Matsui is bad at baseball and they'll hit him two. Accusing Tim of having a pro-Cubs bias regarding this trade is ridiculous. Miguel Tejada is far from a superstar. His 2007 season was on par with Mark Derosa and it's undeniable that his slugging percentage has dropped dramatically for 4 straight years. The acquisition improves the team, but don't get carried away on Tejada's abilities because you are getting the 2008 version, which is not likely to find the fountain and 2004.

You moron Cubs fans don;t get it. I guess thats what happens when you are consistent cellar dwellers for the last century. The mind fades.

TEJADA PLAYED IN BALTIMORE. HE WAS NOT HAPPY.
HE WANTED TO BE TRADED.
HIS SEASON WAS OVER ON APRIL 2.
HIS DIVISION CONTAINED THE YANKEES AND REDSOX.

The guy is one of the best SS in the game. I will bet anyone that his number vastly improve next year. His numbers will be up across the board. Avg, HITS, OBS and Slugging. This was a great trade and get over the fact that you guys can't trade two dimes for a nickel. I'll even bet that we end up ahead of the scrubs with our pitching.

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