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UPDATE, 12-11-07 at 8:27am: Official word comes from the man himself - he'll try his hand in the Majors in 2008.
UPDATE, 12-10-07 at 10:04pm: Here's the latest from the Sun-Times. Urbon won't hear from Fukudome until sometime later tonight. He'll contact MLB teams on Tuesday at the earliest with the news. From that point, a deal might only take a day or two.
UPDATE, 12-10-07 at 2:30pm: This is getting annoying...Fukudome will decide whether to come to MLB tonight. We all expect him to come, so it's been a lot of back and forth for nothing.
UPDATE, 12-9-07 at 12:14am: He's coming this time, for real.
UPDATE, 12-7-07 at 8:08pm: Just listened to Dave Kaplan talking to Fukudome's agent, Joe Urbon, on Sports Central/WGN 720. Urbon says Fukudome may decide whether to play in the U.S. on Monday. The process would move "very quickly" soon after that for Fukudome to decide on a team.
UPDATE, 12-7-07 at 8:03pm: Gordon Wittenmyer of the Chicago Sun-Times spoke to Fukudome's agent. He hasn't decided yet. He will make a choice Monday or Tuesday, and would let the interested Japanese teams know first.
FROM 12-7-07 at 2:40pm:
In case there was any question, Ken Rosenthal reports that Kosuke Fukudome will announce that he's leaving Japan for an MLB team.
Rosenthal says it's down to the Cubs, Padres, and what I like to call a Mystery Team. The Rangers, Giants, and White Sox are candidates. And although Rosenthal doesn't mention them, the Royals could be in the mix. Ken Davidoff reported on Wednesday that Fukudome had narrowed his choices to the Cubs and Royals (though it's known that the Padres made a substantial offer). Note that Davidoff's article came out after news of the Royals' Jose Guillen signing broke.
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great, now only 3 more weeks of posturing before we get to find out which team.
Posted by: Dave | December 07, 2007 at 02:44 PM
Sabean do SOMETHING right for once!!!
Posted by: zito4cyyoung | December 07, 2007 at 02:44 PM
Mystery team? Did he hire Boras yesterday?
Either way good that he is making a decision right away so the cubs can move forward accordingly.
Posted by: cubz23 | December 07, 2007 at 02:46 PM
Go to the royals.. dont go to the crappy cubs
Posted by: Focs | December 07, 2007 at 02:47 PM
didnt we hear like 3 days ago that he would decide which team he was going to sign with ~ now so many days later we hear nothing but "he's coming to the US"... Whats the hold up ~ they hoping the media can try to generate more hype for him first? Or maybe he just really doesn’t want to play for the 2-3 teams supposedly offering contracts and he’s holding out for ideally more team to become involved?
Posted by: darkstar1661 | December 07, 2007 at 02:48 PM
gotta be KC. hillman-factor.
Posted by: | December 07, 2007 at 02:49 PM
Is there any indication when he will choose which team?
Posted by: Aduncaroo | December 07, 2007 at 02:49 PM
Per Rosenthal "His decision on whether to join the Cubs, Padres or an unidentified third finalist might come as soon as late Friday night or early Saturday, sources say."
Posted by: cubz23 | December 07, 2007 at 02:51 PM
come on White Sox please don't let me down again.
Posted by: CUBS=NOTHING | December 07, 2007 at 02:51 PM
I'd love to see him in Royal blue. We could plug him in at right, move Teahen to center and trade Dejesus for a starter. Come on Dayton, make it happen.
Posted by: royaldaddy | December 07, 2007 at 02:53 PM
This is like the 3rd straight day I've heard that "he's signing today."
blargh, so annoying. Just do it already. The Cubs are the only logical choice anyway.
Posted by: Game555 | December 07, 2007 at 02:54 PM
He would be that on base guy KW it looking 4. After all that has gone on this offseason to lose a bidding war to the cubs would be the ultimate humiliation! Reindorf please just sell the team already!!!!
Posted by: CUBS=NOTHING | December 07, 2007 at 02:57 PM
"I'd love to see him in Royal blue. We could plug him in at right, move Teahen to center and trade Dejesus for a starter. Come on Dayton, make it happen."
if Royals sign Fukudome, I'd expect to see him in LF, Guillen in right and DDJ in center with Gathright as the 4th OFer. Teahen would likely be traded shortly after as he has more value as a 3b-OFer.
Posted by: | December 07, 2007 at 02:59 PM
Why would loseing a bidding war to a team that spends a lot more money be Humiliating, even if it is the cubs.
Besides, its not like the white sox have any realistic shot at winning the division during the next oooh 3 or 4 years.
Just come over to the Cubbies Fukudome........
Posted by: Ignignokt1 | December 07, 2007 at 03:00 PM
Game555. How are the Cubs the "only logical choice"?
SD is closer to japan than chicago is. better weather.
KC has a japanese player, interpreter and a manager who understands the customs and demeanor of japanese ballplayers after managing in japan for 5 years.
how on EARTH is the cubs the "only logical choice"? Please explain..
Posted by: bobhamelin | December 07, 2007 at 03:00 PM
More waiting, damnit to hell and back. Go sign with San Diego and be done with it.
Posted by: AnteaterPadre | December 07, 2007 at 03:00 PM
San Francisco is a very logical choice. Giants have the money to spend, an open LF. A large Japanese population.
GO GIANTS!!!
Posted by: | December 07, 2007 at 03:03 PM
Because the Cubs are what American baseball is all about. If you want a Japanese friendly environment play in Japan.
Just kidding, Fukudome-san.
Posted by: Dave | December 07, 2007 at 03:04 PM
Ignignokt1, quick clarification.
2007 Payroll:
Cubs: $99.67M
Sox: $108.67M
Hmmmm....
Posted by: Robert Huff | December 07, 2007 at 03:05 PM
"how on EARTH is the cubs the "only logical choice"? Please explain.."
...Because the 400M they spend last offseason left gaping holes in the team that they desperately need to fill. "its the only logical choice" because they really, really, really need him more than the others...
...Well, thats what it seems like atleast...
Posted by: | December 07, 2007 at 03:05 PM
Ignignok1 that is absord to make a comment like that championships are not won on paper they are won the field the Sox starting rotation will be better than you think and ozzie will have these guys playing better baseball not that I am saying that they are going to win the division but they certainly have a chance!!!!!!!!! let the games begin...........
Posted by: CUBS=NOTHING | December 07, 2007 at 03:05 PM
Well, the cubs are not the only logical choice. But they still are a "Logical Choice"
Out of every team seemingly interested in Fukudome, the Cubs are the only team from the previous season to of made the playoffs.
If he goes to the Cubs, The chances to make it to the playoffs would be easier, he would be paid more, he would be loved more (if he pans out), and he would be playing in one of the best ballparks in the history of baseball.
You cannot really say any of that about the other interested teams.
Posted by: | December 07, 2007 at 03:08 PM
CUBS=NOTHING,
Talk about a run-on sentence...
He would LOVE playing at Wrigley...but whether he knows what its all about or not we have no idea. I think SanDiego has a very good shot as well as the Cubs because they are on the West Coast and everyone loves SoCal...
Posted by: Aduncaroo | December 07, 2007 at 03:13 PM
"Out of every team seemingly interested in Fukudome, the Cubs are the only team from the previous season to of made the playoffs"
A) We dont know that ~ one team is a "mystery team" out of 3 options…
B) The Padres missed the playoffs in the 163rd game ~ its hard to call them a "non-playoff contender"
C) A+B means 2-3/3 are actually “contenders”
D) …I just wanted to add “D” to say, how are there really only 3 teams with serious interest in him? Is there something we don’t know here???
Posted by: darkstar1661 | December 07, 2007 at 03:14 PM
if a player signed with a team ONLY because they KNOW they get to go to the playoff's, rosters would have to be expanded to 250 so every player could sign with the red sox or yankees.
using last years playoffs as an example isn't a stepping stone, especially considering he is japanese. you misunderstand the japanese culture, where they receive honor in challenges.
to go to a team that's playoff bound in 08 already isn't a challenge to a japanese player. ah but to join a last place team and try to take THAT team to the playoffs, i'd see him more challenged by that.
but good luck to all teams involved.
Posted by: | December 07, 2007 at 03:14 PM
If he went to the Cubs and had a poor april he would be booed in April that is how cub fans our!!!!!! The cubs would be the worst choice if goes there it will be a mistake.
Posted by: CUBS=NOTHING | December 07, 2007 at 03:15 PM
Trading Teahen over Dejesus would be ridiculous unless the deal was just amazing. Teahen has more power potential, a good outfield arm, and he's a decent base stealer. Dejesus should be enough to pick up the #3 or 4 type starter that we need.
Posted by: | December 07, 2007 at 03:15 PM
Giants could really make use of both him and Matsui.
Posted by: PhilsPhan | December 07, 2007 at 03:19 PM
i just want to say how proud i am that we went 27 posts without a reference to Pearl Harbor on this, our 66th anniversary.
no kamikaze jokes, no 'bet they are sending him to america to finish the job' jokes. proud of you guys!
Posted by: bobhamelin | December 07, 2007 at 03:19 PM
San Diego and the White Sox don't really have much of a chance when the Cubs will make the highest bid. Why would he want to play for the White Sox when they have no hope for the forseeable future? Even if the unthinkable happened and they outbid the Cubs. Why would he want to play for even less money with the Padres in a park that's bigger the Yosemite? I will bet $10 against all comers for the next hour who'd like to bet it won't be the Cubs.
Posted by: NancyEcho1469 | December 07, 2007 at 03:21 PM
So much hype by the media. So much waiting. "The wai-ai-ting is the hardest part".
Posted by: Oh Boy | December 07, 2007 at 03:22 PM
@CUBS=NOTHING
please stop making all sox fans sound ridiculous. i too, despise the cubs, but you're hatred is getting the best of you here. the white sox do not need fukudome, as hes not going to make a huge difference on our team. We're better off playin JO, and seeing if he can cut it, becasue face it, this year is a rebuilding year whether we like it or not. We cant shed payroll yet becasue we wont get fair market value for our vets yet. Yes, i do think our staff will be better than most expect, but danks and floyd will hit some road bumps, and who knows if contreras can make it the whole season because hes 50. all in all, id rather not have them spend the 10-15 mil its going to cost for fukudome and let some of the kids develop.
Posted by: | December 07, 2007 at 03:22 PM
"that is how cub fans our!!!!!!"
Read that again dude...stop Cubs hating with horrendous grammar.
Posted by: Aduncaroo | December 07, 2007 at 03:23 PM
Hey White Sox fans worry about your own team. I know we may be in a bidding war here but your inferiority complex to the Cubs is embarrassing you and this city. Keep your focus on your own league, division, and team.
Posted by: Joey Kittens | December 07, 2007 at 03:26 PM
NOTHING = SOX/FANS x Kenny Williams
Showing good reason for your inferiority complex.
Posted by: | December 07, 2007 at 03:28 PM
"that is how cub fans our!!!!!!"
"Read that again dude...stop Cubs hating with horrendous grammar."
And a teenybopper number of exclamation points.
Posted by: vegasneedsbaseball | December 07, 2007 at 03:28 PM
Here's another quote that indicates that KC MIGHT be involved--
“We like our pitching,” Moore said. “We like the depth that we have, but we’re always looking to improve our pitching. Some of the things we’re looking to do are unfolding very slowly.”
It's pretty fair to say this Fukudome signing is taking a while to unfold. Maybe he was talking about acquiring a pitcher, I don't know. Could be a Fukudome signing + DeJesus/Teahen trade for a pitcher. Who knows, just throwing it out there.
Posted by: firesticks | December 07, 2007 at 03:28 PM
"Why would loseing a bidding war to a team that spends a lot more money be Humiliating, even if it is the cubs."
I believe it's been pointed out already, but the Sox have a higher payroll than the Cubs.
As for the Cubs being the logical choice, he fits their needs perfectly, they give him the best chance to win, and give him the best chance to put up numbers at the same time. San Diego is a ridiculously pitcher favored park and is in a pitchers division. Oh and the Cubs will offer more money than anyone else, that too.
Posted by: Game555 | December 07, 2007 at 03:29 PM
"And a teenybopper number of exclamation points."
Priceless...
Posted by: Aduncaroo | December 07, 2007 at 03:29 PM
no offense to cubs fans.
but if you REALLY think the money is the factor in a japanese player making his decision, you are completely wrong.
you are thinking american. japan is a COMPLETELY different culture where greed and money-hunger isn't the driving force. honor and respect is, along with challenges in the sport.
yes, chicago may have a 15-20 million dollar contract, but he is not going to be looking at the money. please stop thinking this.
Posted by: bobhamelin | December 07, 2007 at 03:29 PM
OhBoy, I think "Running down a dream" is a more accurate Petty song in the case of many posters around here...
Posted by: darkstar1661 | December 07, 2007 at 03:31 PM
"honor and respect is, along with challenges in the sport."
Is there a bigger challenge than getting the Cubs a World Series, and the respect he would earn doing it??? none that I can think of...
Posted by: Aduncaroo | December 07, 2007 at 03:32 PM
hahahaha, i love how cubs fans think they have the right to every player because they have a "cool ballpark". hahahaha you guys are too funny.
Posted by: trober81 | December 07, 2007 at 03:32 PM
OK Bobosan. Watch "Rising Sun" a few too many times?
Posted by: NancyEcho1469 | December 07, 2007 at 03:33 PM
@bob
Oh, I guess you're right. He'll go to San Diego because "it's closer to Japan"
Shut the hell up. Why do you think he's coming to America in the first place? Money.
Posted by: Game555 | December 07, 2007 at 03:33 PM
NancyEcho.
No, but I have read a lot about Japanese baseball since my Royals signed Trey Hillman to be our manager because I wanted to know his background after being hired to run our clubs. I saw a lot of interviews with him regarding the Japanese league, and his insight is very helpful in understanding the players.
But your attitude and sarcasm, is the exact reason why Cubs fans do not deserve Fukudome.
Posted by: bobhamelin | December 07, 2007 at 03:35 PM
Game555. Keep thinking that when he takes less to go to another team.
Cry in your pillow and sob "money. its supposed to be about the money!" when the Cubs lose out.
Posted by: bobhamelin | December 07, 2007 at 03:37 PM
I'm pretty sure money was the last point I made.
What a tool.
Posted by: Game555 | December 07, 2007 at 03:38 PM
I did not know the Japanese hate sarcasm. Thanks for your insight. KC is in the same boat as the CWS. No chance for the forseeable future. Put your money where your mouth is and take me up on my wager. Or we can go my honor vs. your honor, your Honor.
Posted by: NancyEcho1469 | December 07, 2007 at 03:38 PM
"Is there a bigger challenge than getting the Cubs a World Series, and the respect he would earn doing it??? none that I can think of..."
...I also cant imagine a worse situation then for a player looking for respect to go to the Cubs and become the next "goat" in their whining about what happened to ruin their dreams this time around…
Posted by: darkstar1661 | December 07, 2007 at 03:38 PM
The logical choice would be the royals not the cubs get real and Americas baseball team is not the freaking cubs haha as much as i hate to admit it when people think of american baseball they think of the yankees.. the royals need to get fukudome then trade dejesus and prospects like Mitch Maier and/or Justin Huber for a 3-4 rotation pitcher..
Posted by: Focs | December 07, 2007 at 03:40 PM
NancyEcho, no what I mean is that your sarcasm is the exact reason why he wouldn't be a fit. Cubs fans are well known for turning on their players.
and i didn't see a wager. did i miss something?
Game555. you seem to be dribbling idiocy with each post. can you maybe go watch nickelodeon or something and let us REAL baseball fans have a discussion? thanks tiger.
Posted by: bobhamelin | December 07, 2007 at 03:42 PM
You're right the logical choice would be for a non competitive small market team to hand out another 10 mil + contract. Even if they continue to improve, it wouldn't be to the point of Cleveland or Detroit. There would be 0 sense in KC even seriously pursuing him.
Posted by: Game555 | December 07, 2007 at 03:43 PM
Your arguments are compelling Focs. Sick.
Posted by: NancyEcho1469 | December 07, 2007 at 03:43 PM
ha!
Posted by: trober81 | December 07, 2007 at 03:43 PM
"Americas baseball team is not the freaking cubs haha as much as i hate to admit it when people think of american baseball they think of the yankees.. "
...or the Dodgers...
Posted by: darkstar1661 | December 07, 2007 at 03:43 PM
Money means nothing. It's all about the honor.
Huh? This isn't 16th century Japan here. We are talking about one of the top capatalist countries in the world. You think Sony makes TV's so that they can meet a challenge or bring honor back to Japan?
It's always about the money. That doesn't mean he will take the highest offer BUT money will be the biggest factor.
Last check, our Japanese imports were being paid pretty well. Ichiro, Matsui, Dice-K didn't seem to run away from their $13m+ annual contracts.
This isn't a knock on them either. They should go out and get the best money they can. That attitude does not violate any sort of Japanese honor code.
Posted by: bjsguess | December 07, 2007 at 03:44 PM
"Game555. you seem to be dribbling idiocy with each post. can you maybe go watch nickelodeon or something and let us REAL baseball fans have a discussion? thanks tiger."
What the hell are you talking about? You're in here saying Kosuke is japanese and therefore plays for honor and respect....what a complete and utter tool. And what exactly about missing the playoffs (something the Royals, Padres, and Sox all did) is honorable?
Posted by: Game555 | December 07, 2007 at 03:45 PM
Game555.
are you dense? the royals are not the royals you've known the whole 3 or 4 years you've been a fan. they are a different team, with different management.
they are going to be dipping into every talent pool there is out there, domestic and foreign. don't be surprised if we go after alexei ramirez too...or wait, should we just expect he will auto-matically be a Cub, since your team has the first 3 letters of his home-country. dangit, we missed out on him too i guess!
Posted by: bobhamelin | December 07, 2007 at 03:46 PM
At 3:19 PM I offered to wager $10 against all comers who'd like to bet Fukodome signs with any team other than the Cubs. The bet remains open until 4:19 PM. So I see because I am sarcastic, Fukodome would not be a good fit for the Cubs. I have never turned on a Cubs player who didn't have it coming to him. Including Jacque Jones. That is I never turned on him.
Posted by: NancyEcho1469 | December 07, 2007 at 03:47 PM
Last time I checked every city in the world has people without honor, and yup, I'm pretty sure they also have currency.
If money isn't important to him, why don't they just pay him $1? (substitute 'league minimum' for $1 and you get my point).
Nancy...got a paypal account?
Posted by: Dave | December 07, 2007 at 03:49 PM
lets be real here, until the cubs actually win something, they will always be the joke of the MLB. Loveable Losers, wait till next year, its gonna happen, the curse of the billy goat.... they have the most excuses in the world. They also have some of the deepest pockets too, so im sure theyll overpay for him and probably get him but that doesnt mean anything. they still have to play out there year and EVERY team is an injury or two away from being completely mediocre.
Posted by: trober81 | December 07, 2007 at 03:50 PM
Yes sir.
Posted by: NancyEcho1469 | December 07, 2007 at 03:50 PM
lol, so he's just a bitter Royals fan. Yeah, I know they have new management, I can tell because old management made no deals. This one just makes bad deals. Good luck with Jose Guillen.
Posted by: Game555 | December 07, 2007 at 03:50 PM
Are you in Dave?
Posted by: NancyEcho1469 | December 07, 2007 at 03:51 PM
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
Cubs suck!!!
Nu UH White sox suck!!
No way man Royals suck!!
Silly billy Padres suck!!!
ROFLMAOCOPTER, LOL....
Ugh.
Can you just not come to a consensus and acknoledge that you are all awful?
Posted by: ArodSucksAtLife | December 07, 2007 at 03:52 PM
yeah. hopefully we have as good of luck with jose guillen as we had with Gil Meche..you know, the player we nabbed from your grasps LAST year, on this exact same date.
Posted by: bobhamelin | December 07, 2007 at 03:52 PM
I think it's difficult to imagine any team but the Cubs being the front-runners for this signing. Not because they are the best fit, most logical choice, or have the most to offer, but simply because they have made it known that they have been waiting for him to make his decision to come to the US to play baseball. Now that he has done so, I don't think there is any way they will let him slip through their fingers and sign with another team. Also, given the fact that they are more than willing to throw money at players and have dumped salary to make room for such a signing, I think it's only a matter of time before he is in a Cubs uniform.
Posted by: BleedBlue87 | December 07, 2007 at 03:53 PM
oh and i am not bitter. i am full of optimism. see, Royals fans have been so used to being in dead last year, we know it will take baby steps to get better. we ain't going to disneyland, and you won't see champagne corks popping in KC...but we are happy to just be progressing.
but that playoff run last year you guys made was amazing. if Milwaukee and St. Louis hadn't just laid down and died for you guys, well who knows..it might have been a challenge, right!
Posted by: bobhamelin | December 07, 2007 at 03:55 PM
Wow i couldnt agree with you more Bobhamelin everyone thinks we are the same ol royals because no one hears stuff about us.. they dont realize that our owner is now dishing out some dollars since he is one of the richest in baseball and owns walmart.. and we might go after fukudome and might go after alexei ramirez to play SS.. people dont realize this team is not far away from contending at all and will definately finsh before the twins and whitesox in the AL central this year and will compete with the indians and detroit
Posted by: | December 07, 2007 at 03:55 PM
Oh yeah you got away with our big fish there in Meche. Damn you KC...and your inferior BBQ!
Posted by: NancyEcho1469 | December 07, 2007 at 03:56 PM
This post is the result of everyone having winter meeting hangover...and especially Cubs fans, who thought Hendry would get something bigger done. So now we are all over any post that has anything to do with the Cubs...
Posted by: | December 07, 2007 at 03:57 PM
"and will compete with the indians and detroit"
Is this guy serious?
Posted by: Aduncaroo | December 07, 2007 at 03:59 PM
LOL NANCY if i remember correctly or if the stats are written down correctly Gil Meche had a better ERA then your whole rotation.. including Zambrano dumbass
Posted by: Focs | December 07, 2007 at 03:59 PM
Reality Check:
KC plays where? Is it the AL Central? You have a long way to go to be competitive with CLE and DET. Don't get me wrong, they seem to be heading in the right direction, but your BBQ still sucks. Tell me truthfully Bobosan, how many times have you seen "Rising Sun"?
Posted by: NancyEcho1469 | December 07, 2007 at 03:59 PM
and i said if we get fukudome and another pitcher via trade we will indeed give the indians and detroit a good fight.. more than the whitesox and twins
Posted by: Focs | December 07, 2007 at 04:00 PM
And how'd KC finish compared to the Cubs Focs? You are truly the master of compelling arguments?
Posted by: NancyEcho1469 | December 07, 2007 at 04:01 PM
troll heaven in here lately lol.
anyways, i wonder why people keep saying he is going to sign soon and then nothing. is there some sort of discord in the info or are they just hyping this to high heaven?
Posted by: kid_gloves | December 07, 2007 at 04:02 PM
well sorry we dont play in arguably the weakest division in baseball.. and sorry we dont play in the sorry as NL
Posted by: Focs | December 07, 2007 at 04:02 PM
"but that playoff run last year you guys made was amazing. if Milwaukee and St. Louis hadn't just laid down and died for you guys, well who knows..it might have been a challenge, right!"
The Cubs were ahead of the Cardinals all year, and the Cubs had the best record in the NL from June on forward. Nobody laid down, sorry. I know it's unfortunate to be fan of a team you know isn't going anywhere any time soon - I mean I am a Cub fan right - but you don't have to take out your frustrations on other people. The only reason the Royals are even in this discussion is because of your manager, there is nothing to Kosuke going there. Get over it.
Posted by: Game555 | December 07, 2007 at 04:02 PM
You are correct sir. First intelligent thing you've said all day.
Posted by: NancyEcho1469 | December 07, 2007 at 04:03 PM
and just curious Game555 what is there to make Kosuke go to the cubs.. cuz i see fukudome's buddy yasuhiko yabuta who was the sickest reliever in japan last year who is his friend and i see trey hillman.. so what makes the cubs a better choice GAME555
Posted by: Focs | December 07, 2007 at 04:04 PM
Don't be so hard on yourself Kid Gloves.
Posted by: NancyEcho1469 | December 07, 2007 at 04:05 PM
And really I question the objectivity of anyone expecting them to even finish 3rd, much less compete. They have some nice young talent and they've (poorly) spent money on (overrated) players, but if you honestly think that is a team that will be better than the Twins or White Sox, you are going to be very disappointed.
Posted by: Game555 | December 07, 2007 at 04:06 PM
I believe KC will be better than the White Sox and will compete with the Twins for 3rd place at around .500 and 18 games back.
Posted by: NancyEcho1469 | December 07, 2007 at 04:08 PM
I like how you all pretend to know what Kosuke wants. get real guys, we don't know what the most important aspects are to him we can only guess. now lets talk about some real topics instead of these lame flame wars.
Posted by: kid_gloves | December 07, 2007 at 04:08 PM
Ha, im not being hard on myself. i just wonder whats up with all the "He is going to Sign today!" reports, and then we only get a confirmation of him coming to the US.
Posted by: kid_gloves | December 07, 2007 at 04:09 PM
It's a slow news day Kid. What do you want to talk about?
Posted by: NancyEcho1469 | December 07, 2007 at 04:10 PM
The twins and the whitesox are clearly not better than the royals.. the whitesox have jim thome and paul konerko.. thats it.. they traded their pitching with the exception of buehrle and the incosistant contreras.. the twins have morneau thats it literally they are trading everything.. only pitcher they will have is liriano... the roylas have a great rotation once they get a 4th starter which is a giving will come.. they have great young hitters who are progressing.. they have an awesome bullpen how can they not finish before them
Posted by: Focs | December 07, 2007 at 04:10 PM
life, the universe, and everything :D.
but seriously, anything is better than flame wars between fanboys. as i see it fukudome could certainly help all 3 teams (if he does sign with one of them). at this point i would almost rather him just make up his mind so that the other clubs can move on with their other options.
Posted by: kid_gloves | December 07, 2007 at 04:11 PM
The White Sox as a team had a down year, I don't expect them to be good per say but I think they'll be improved over last year. Last place is between them and the Royals, though.
Posted by: Game555 | December 07, 2007 at 04:11 PM
and i understand we overpaid guillen.. by a lot.. but maybe he might live up to the money.. just maybe.. and it orginally looked like we overpaid meche but it turns out we deffinately didnt.. look at the money zambrano is making and his era and look a meches era.. meches is a lot better.. and is better than the cubs whole rotation last year.. every last one of them
Posted by: Focs | December 07, 2007 at 04:12 PM
lmao. "They have liriano thats it" Theres this guy named Johan Santana you know, and it's not like he'll leave (if he does) for nothing in return. Oh and lest we forget Joe Mauer and Delmon Young, both of whom are better young players than any body on the Royals. The White Sox and Twins aren't great teams I don't think they'll compete, but they should fairly easily be better than the Royals.
Posted by: | December 07, 2007 at 04:13 PM
I agree...this conversation is getting old...
So what does everyone think his stat line will be next year?
I'm going with:
.305\.375\.450
Anyone care to agree\disagree?
Posted by: Aduncaroo | December 07, 2007 at 04:13 PM
i was going under the asumption that johan would be traded and Wow that was the most ignorant thing ive heard.. Billy Butler and Alex Gordon will have a far better sophomore year then Delmon young.. and Joe Mauer hits for average in a shitty line big whoop.. and johan will be gone for young pitchers.. like a young pitcher is gonna come in and tear it up
Posted by: | December 07, 2007 at 04:18 PM
hmm.
.314\.390\.450
27HR 98RBI
Posted by: kid_gloves | December 07, 2007 at 04:18 PM
Zambrano had the worst year of his career and still won 18 games.
Gil Meche had a career year, and will likely be mediocre to terrible every other year of his contract. Are you seriously that shallow that you just look at ERA and say "he was better than these guys"
The Cubs were the 2nd best pitching team in the NL last year and at worst, the 5th best team in the entire MLB, and once again led the league in strikeouts. I could go on and on, but I don't feel like it, because we're arguing about a contender vs the freakin Royals. Seriously.
Posted by: | December 07, 2007 at 04:19 PM
I'll say 24 HR 90 RBI
Posted by: Aduncaroo | December 07, 2007 at 04:20 PM
27 homers from Kosuke? I'd love that but they say he figures to hit around 15 in the majors.
a .310/.385/.445 line would be about what I'd hope for.
Posted by: Game555 | December 07, 2007 at 04:20 PM
a record of a pitcher has nothing to do with them because they have a lineup that has to get them runs we had a young inexperienced one last year.. you'll have to excuse me i was going under "the most important stat of a pitcher" and was kinda under the asumption of if gil pitched for you last year what might of his record been just to make you understand a little easier since you have the iq of a 2 yr old. and if meche can have that good of an ERA in this tough division i clearly think he is better than zambrano who did shitty in a shitty divison and i said meche did better than your whole rotation not just zabrano to add injury to insult :D
Posted by: Focs | December 07, 2007 at 04:22 PM