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UPDATE, 12-21-07 at 9:34am: Well, Durbin only got $900K. It's hard to complain about any signing at that price; this could definitely be a profitable move for the Phils. The bigger concern is that this move ends their starting pitching search and leaves little behind Hamels and Myers. An injury to either, and the Phillies seem done.
FROM 12-19-07 at 6:18pm:
According to Dejan Kovacevic, starter Chad Durbin has reached an agreement with the Phillies. The Bucs missed out on another targeted free agent.
Durbin, a 30 year-old journeyman, posted a 4.72 ERA in 127 innings for the Tigers. His numbers were below-average across the board; I'm not sure how much he'll help the Phillies' starting pitching woes. They're looking at a rotation of Cole Hamels, Brett Myers, Kyle Kendrick, Jamie Moyer, and Durbin (no one's counting on Adam Eaton). Beyond the front two that rotation is going to be pretty bad.
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The Phils are going out of their way to not improve. It's uterly amazing at this point.
Posted by: RuffinTumble | December 19, 2007 at 06:35 PM
Definatly would rather see a young guy like Scott Mathieson in there
Posted by: Phils1Phan | December 19, 2007 at 06:51 PM
My reaction upon reading this:
Phillies sign...
"Yes...yes?!"
Chad Durbin
"Noo..."
Posted by: mikezink | December 19, 2007 at 06:55 PM
Oh geez. Adding more steaming crap to a pile of already steaming crap will not eventually cancel itself out and make up a good pitcher.
Posted by: no funny hats | December 19, 2007 at 07:02 PM
Chad Durbin....
Are you effin' kidding me?
Posted by: tolo316 | December 19, 2007 at 07:12 PM
the glass is half full gentlemen...we have the looong reliever spot all locked up now...what's next on the to-do list.....
Posted by: PeteRose | December 19, 2007 at 07:21 PM
hopefully mathieson does make his way into the rotation and maybe, if we're lucky, carlos carrasco will develop very quickly.
i have one question. does this durbin make up nicknames for himself? we don't need another real deal/durbinator.
one more thing... i think you don't give kyle kendrick enough credit. he may not be an ace, but he pitched out of his mind last year, going 10-4 with a 3.87 era. not bad for a late draft pick but, then again, ryan howard was a late round pick too.
Posted by: savenhl | December 19, 2007 at 07:23 PM
I think Phillies see Mathieson as a late innings reliever and then eventually as a closer...the good news about Mathieson is that he's still throwing 94-97 despite the surgery...the bad news ..he has no real secondary pitches except for a slider ...and a developing changeup ....I don't see him competing for a spot in the rotation though..could end up in the bullpen.
Posted by: PeteRose | December 19, 2007 at 07:46 PM
I think Mathieson will be in the 'pen and eventually close as well. Let's face it: They're not going to re-sign Lidge, so someone will have to close.
I don't get the dedication to pitching THIS offseason. Everyone knows the market is crap, that to trade for an ace you need to give up the farm, and that the Phillies don't have the prospects to pull off a deal for a big time picture.
Why not just save the money? Why why why spend it on crap? Worst idea ever.
Posted by: no funny hats | December 19, 2007 at 08:06 PM
On behalf of Pirates' fans everywhere:
Thanks, Phillies!
(Now we just need someone else to hurry up and sign Olivo and Estrada so Huntington doesn't waste his limited dinero on them, either)
Posted by: CJax33 | December 19, 2007 at 08:50 PM
anyone besides adam eaton works for me
Posted by: willardjfilmore | December 19, 2007 at 09:14 PM
2007: 36 games, 17 at Commerica Park...127 innings and 21 HOME RUNS. He should fit in well at Citizen's Bank Park...YIKES.
I don't think this will stop the Phillies from going after another starter. Durbin (if this signing is true, nothing anywhere else about it...including from Todd Zolecki) should not be penciled in to the starting rotation just yet and falls into that #5-8 starter range.
Posted by: msprang | December 19, 2007 at 09:31 PM
How much money is this guy going to make...my guess 3 years 24 million like Eaton and he probably wont even have to pass a physical so it should be final soon....go Phillies
Posted by: Utley4prez | December 19, 2007 at 10:08 PM
"Beyond the front two that rotation is going to be pretty bad."
I think we are being a little harsh here on the state of the Phillies Rotation.
We do need to upgrade but this still is the team that won the NL East.
Posted by: mhrinda | December 20, 2007 at 01:59 AM
"Beyond the front two that rotation is going to be pretty bad."
Hey now... Moyer's not bad for a 92 yr-old. He was the Phils' most reliable starter last season.
Posted by: FineHamAbounds | December 20, 2007 at 07:17 AM
"Beyond the front two that rotation is going to be pretty bad."
Did everyone forget that Moyer was a 14 game winner and Kendrick went 10-4???
How is 24-16 as the #3 and 4 starters pretty bad??
Durbin will be our needed long reliever - spot starter.
I still believe the Phillies really want Benson.
Eaton can't be any worse than he was last year, and even then he went 10-10.
2008 he SHOULD do better!
lower his ERA by 1 or more and he's a 12 game winner at least with the offense we have.
Rowand had a career year in 2007 - he won't be repeating those numbers.
Victorino and the platoon of Jenkins and Werth will produce more offense than Rowand / Victorino in 2007.
and what have the Mets and Braves done to improve themselves?????
I think the Nats did the best in the division to upgrade their team, and even that may only get them a 3rd place "at best" scenerio.
Posted by: FyreKnight | December 20, 2007 at 09:30 AM
"Beyond the front two that rotation is going to be pretty bad."
Did everyone forget that Moyer was a 14 game winner and Kendrick went 10-4???
How is 24-16 as the #3 and 4 starters pretty bad??
Durbin will be our needed long reliever - spot starter.
I still believe the Phillies really want Benson.
Eaton can't be any worse than he was last year, and even then he went 10-10.
2008 he SHOULD do better!
lower his ERA by 1 or more and he's a 12 game winner at least with the offense we have.
Rowand had a career year in 2007 - he won't be repeating those numbers.
Victorino and the platoon of Jenkins and Werth will produce more offense than Rowand / Victorino in 2007.
and what have the Mets and Braves done to improve themselves?????
I think the Nats did the best in the division to upgrade their team, and even that may only get them a 3rd place "at best" scenerio.
Posted by: FyreKnight | December 20, 2007 at 09:30 AM
"and what have the Mets and Braves done to improve themselves?????"
The Mets? Nothing really.
The Braves have added lots of pitching depth, and removed a double play machine from the middle of the order. The simple fact that they have someone in CF who can hit a little better than Andruw did last year without the expectation of batting 4th or 5th is a huge improvement.
Posted by: FineHamAbounds | December 20, 2007 at 10:04 AM
"Did everyone forget that Moyer was a 14 game winner and Kendrick went 10-4???"
i'm a phillies fan and i haven't. but to be fair this is a typical phillies pitching maneuver. sign a scrub who just got cut from his team and hope for the best. you needn't look further than the durbin's for an example. they had some success with romero so maybe they think this is the way to go now. moyer and kendrick will not put up the same numbers. kendrick is not a top of the order guy, he only gets that press in philly and i think he will get hit harder next year if the increase in innings doesnt catch up to him first. moyer throws about one good game out of three or four. they need something but nothing is out there. benson on a one or two year incentive contract would help.
Posted by: brendan | December 20, 2007 at 10:27 AM
Well they'll need a long man if Adam Eaton's gonna get 30 starts again.
Posted by: wayne gomes | December 21, 2007 at 09:45 AM
If Jenkins makes less that 7M and Durbin Less than 1M where does that leave the payroll. Isnt it supposed to be higher than last year??
Posted by: Utley4prez | December 21, 2007 at 10:00 AM
Why do people keep saying he'll be a starter, when he'll be in the bullpen. Perhaps an emergency starter, that's about it.
Posted by: Bedrosian's Beard | December 21, 2007 at 10:00 AM
I think that the top 4 are good enough to compete in the NL East along with the pen and the offense.
Both Durbin's (JD and Chad) are more for middle/long relief and the occasional emergency start or DL fill-in.
Every indication that I have been seeing is that the Phils are continuing to search for pitching.
Posted by: JR | December 21, 2007 at 10:27 AM
I don't buy Gillick's assertion that he's done looking for pitching after the Durbin signing. I would be shocked if we don't sign one more SP, whether it be Benson or Colon or Hernandez or even Lohse (no one's giving him 5 years).
Posted by: tolo316 | December 21, 2007 at 10:56 AM
Gillick is still suffering from a Freddy Garcia hangover. I have confidence in Kendrick and Moyer. Spring training may find another starter.
Posted by: Groty | December 21, 2007 at 01:00 PM
They should look at Otsuka IMO, although he appears to like SD
Posted by: wayne gomes | December 21, 2007 at 01:43 PM
Moyer had an ERA of close to 6.00 from May on and Kendrick's stats say a repeat performance is very, very unlikely. So we have reason to be concerned about that starting staff. But there's no sense complaining about ownership being cheap _ there's nothing out there worth spending on. I don't understand why the people who killed Gillick for giving a three-year deal to Eaton would want to give a four-year deal to Lohse. Eaton was putrid last year, but his career numbers are still better than Lohse's, and he's only a year older.
Posted by: GoPhils | December 21, 2007 at 01:59 PM
GoPhils nails it - there's nothing out there worth $10-11M per year on a several-year commitment, which appears to be the going rate for a serviceable back-of-the-rotation guy (Silva, Lohse). I'm betting on Gillick waiting it out and picking up whoever's left of Benson, Colon, and Livan Hernandez on a one- or two-year deal once they've started to run out of chances for longer-term deals.
Posted by: ColonelTom | December 21, 2007 at 03:19 PM