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MLB.com's Jenifer Langosch jumps into the fray with her own set of Pirates rumors.
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If Huntington could grab Cliff Lee, Kelly Shoppach, and Andy Marte for Jason Bay then that'd be a fantastic move. The Pirates would get their starting catcher for the next few years, a decent starter and a high-risk/high-reward guy in Marte, considering he still has a shot to become a 30 HR hitter. Considering the kind of year Bay had this is probably the best offer the Pirates would get if they decide to move him
Posted by: scribbletone | December 03, 2007 at 11:22 PM
@scribbletone
Agreed. I can't see the Pirates making off better than that. In addition, they could also decide to move Lee to a team like the Reds or the Mets if they didn't want to keep him along with Matt Morris.
Posted by: tolo316 | December 03, 2007 at 11:26 PM
Do you think the Reds or Mets would give up one of their outfielders for him? I think the Reds would be very happy moving Hamilton for Cliff Lee. That would leave the Pirates with a reasonably solid lineup, considering Neil Walker and Andrew McCutchen are still on their way.
Posted by: scribbletone | December 03, 2007 at 11:30 PM
“Jason Bay rumors are flying around. Langosch mentions Steve Phillips' rumor at ESPN: Kelly Shoppach and Cliff Lee for Bay. Andy Marte could be involved as well.”
Hey, that’s the exact deal I said in the Indians/Rats/Bay thread…
Anyway, Marte has to be moved ~ he is out of options and Cleveland would need to keep him on the roster all year. Lee has been in multiple fights/arguemntes with Victor Martinez and has proven to be detrimental to the club; he has fair stuff, but we need to unload him for his change of scenery. Kelly is just too good for a back-up job, he never gets playing time in Cleveland and never will behind Martinez.
I think we could see one more player coming to the Indians in this, but otherwise I think it works from both sides…
Posted by: darkstar1661 | December 03, 2007 at 11:34 PM
i would be surprised if the indians didn't send one of their of along in this deal . they have a history of letting good of's go before they hit stride ...giles , bay , and wasn't sexson at one time an outfielder ? true sexson sucks now but he did play well for the brewers .
Posted by: wj | December 03, 2007 at 11:47 PM
uhhh, WJ ~ I'm lost...
Are you talking about the late 90s when a different owner and different GM was trading a couple prospects for a different winning team? Yeah, that different Owner/GM/Team traded some OF prospects for some help in other areas ~ most of the time with it not working out...
...and you included Bay ~ he want one of them so you know. The third would have to be Sean Casey...
Posted by: darkstar1661 | December 04, 2007 at 12:20 AM
Bay for Lee would be a good deal: both good players coming off of bad years. But with Bay being the face of the Pirates, I can't see Huntington making this deal. Including Shoppach and Marte would be too much unless a second player came with Bay.
Posted by: jessethebody | December 04, 2007 at 08:49 AM
Joel Sherman from the NY Post offered a rumor of Lee / Gutierrez for Toronto's Alex Rios. That seems fair.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/12042007/sports/eyeing_as__os_100643.htm
Posted by: jessethebody | December 04, 2007 at 08:56 AM