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A short but sweet article came out in the Pittsburgh Post Gazette this morning detailing the Pirates' five main trade candidates. No new or surprising names appear on the list but it's a handy roundup for those not up to date on their Bucco news. As we head into the '08 season (tonight!) the Pirates may not be contenders, but they could be difference makers.
Jason Bay - $5.75MM in '08, $7.5MM in '09 - I was surprised they didn't deal him in the offseason, but the Pirates are wisely taking a wait and see approach with Bay. Surely he can't be as bad as he was last season. Like the Pirates, PECOTA is predicting a moderate bounce back season, but not quite the elite 30 HR seasons of '05-'06.
Xavier Nady - $3.35MM in '08, arbitration eligible in '09 - To make room for blocked prospect Steve Pearce, Nady needs to go; however, there's enough doubt around the league that he can hit righties well enough to justify an everyday position. The Mets are the only listed suitor as they could use a corner OF/1B.
Damaso Marte - $2MM in '08 with club option for '09 - The article's rhetoric seems to imply Marte is the most likely to be dealt with Yankees and Braves as suitors. When it comes to crafty, lefty relievers, expect a number of teams to come calling.
Matt Morris - $9.5MM in '08, $9MM club option in '09 ($1MM buyout) - Morris had a nice first half for the Giants last year(3.55 ERA) before regressing to his struggling ways. His talent should make it hard to trade him out of the NL, and his contract and could make it difficult to deal him to any team not desperate for someone to pickup innings. The Pirates should be crossing their fingers for another strong first half.
Jack Wilson - $6.5MM in '08, $7.25MM in '09, $8.4 club option for '10 - The article notes that the Pirates will need a SS in return for someone on this list before they can comfortably deal Wilson as he's the only everyday SS in their system. As Tim noted back in August, Wilson just wants out of Pittsburgh and will waive his six team no trade clause.
We'd love to hear from Pirates fans on all of this.
By Nat Boyle
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Bay - Will need to show he is healthy and back to his 2006 form before anything of value can be had for him...Will not end the season in PGH
Nady - Needs to stay injury free for there to be any value...I would expect him to be gone by deadline, sooner if Pearce wrecks AAA pitching for the first month.
Marte - His value increases between now and 7/31...I expect PGH to be able to get someone decent in return...any of the teams in the pennant race will likely be interested in him if his lefty dominance continues in the first half...
Morris - If Huntington can get a fungo bat for him he should take it...
Wilson - With Bixler waiting in AAA and Rivas on the bench, Wilson will be expendable to a team looking for good defense in the pennant race...Gone on 7/31
What Huntington is able to get in return for these players in aggregate will set the tone for his regime...
If he hits right with moving Bay and Marte then good things should follow...Nady likely wont bring much, Wilson could go either way...
Posted by: Mick Kraut | March 30, 2008 at 11:07 AM
What would it take for the Mets to get Nady, in the opinion of a Pirates fan?
Posted by: supermets | March 30, 2008 at 11:19 AM
With tongue firmly planted in cheek I would say Oliver Perez...
There isnt a whole lot down on the farm to be of interest and I suspect Pelfrey or Humber would be too much...
Posted by: Mick Kraut | March 30, 2008 at 11:38 AM
What teams do you guys think will be intrested in these 5. I think this
Jason Bay- Mets, Indians, Padres, A's, also possibly the Braves to upgrade over Matt Diaz.
Xavier Nady- Same as Bay.
Damaso Marte- Tigers, Royals, Phillies,Astros, Rangers, A's, Twins.
Matt Morris- Red Sox, Twins, White Sox, Angels, Rangers
Jack Wilson- Cubs, Royals, Reds, Giants, Cardinals
Posted by: CUBBIES2008 | March 30, 2008 at 11:45 AM
The original Perez/Hernandez for Nady trade should have never happened. Littlefield has made some of the worst trades in the history of baseball. At this point the Pirates should gladly take any prospect or two for Nady.
As for everyone else.
Bay is only gone if his value increases. His contract is still a good deal for the Pirates so I don't see them just dumping him for salary purposes.
Wilson is as good as gone by the trade deadline if Bixler shows any promise in AAA.
Morris will not bring anything worth while and the Pirates will have to eat most of the contract.
I honestly don't see Marte going anywhere unless there is a top prospect offered in return. Marte's contract is a great value and I believe he is signed through next season. An offer I think would have to be overwhelming for the Pirates to trade him.
Posted by: pen76 | March 30, 2008 at 11:56 AM
I don't know if these guys are still with the club but maybe a combination of 2 or 3 of these guys: Jon Niese, Adam Bostick, Josh Stinson, Sean Henry, Stephen Holmes, or Dustin Martin
Posted by: oxfrat1665 | March 30, 2008 at 11:57 AM
I think Marte would be a nice left reliever on the Cubs. The Cubs still have some pitching depth in AAA but I don't see how they can make a deal with their roster situation. The Pirates wouldn't want Murton...they already have too many corner outfielders. Maybe later in the season when the roster situations resolve themselves, the Cubs should revisit this. Especially if Eyre continues to have issues and Pignatello or Marshall aren't the answer.
Posted by: crunchy1 | March 30, 2008 at 11:57 AM
"I honestly don't see Marte going anywhere unless there is a top prospect offered in return. Marte's contract is a great value and I believe he is signed through next season. An offer I think would have to be overwhelming for the Pirates to trade him."
Marte has a $6M club option for 2009 that they most assuredly will not exercise, so he will be moved or else he walks at the cost of a $250K buyout...
Posted by: Mick Kraut | March 30, 2008 at 12:07 PM
"There isnt a whole lot down on the farm to be of interest and I suspect Pelfrey or Humber would be too much..."
Phil Humber is on the Twins now..
And I agree with crunchy1 that Marte would be a good fit for the Cubs. He would replace Eyre as our lefty specialist, and the Cubs would likely be able to offer something of good value. If we offered something like Sean Marshall or something I think its pretty likely that the Pirates would be interested. Marte really isn't going to make a difference on that team, and considering that option for '09 which almost definately wouldn't be exercised, it makes more sense to move him now for someone cheaper and younger.
Posted by: scribbletone | March 30, 2008 at 12:24 PM
I'd be shocked if the Mets had enough assets to actually interest the Pirates in a Jason Bay trade. Maybe Xavier Nady, but not Bay.
I think that the Indians are definately the best fit for Bay. They already discussed him this offseason, and if the Tigers get out to a decent lead in the division, then I could see the Indians looking to add some extra offense. If the Indians were willing to give up something like Aaron Laffey, Kelly Shoppach and Ben Francisco for Bay and Ronny Paulino, then I think that'd make a great deal of sense for both teams.
Posted by: scribbletone | March 30, 2008 at 12:26 PM
I still wonder how the Jays could get their hands on Bay for LF, I sapose it would take Lind and another Young pitcher as a starting point.
Rios/Wells/Bay with Snider coming up would be pretty damn sweet.
Posted by: Dev0 | March 30, 2008 at 12:46 PM
I can see the braves having interest if ohman does not produce, but with us keeping ring, having bueno and ridgeway in triple a, and expecting mike gonzalez back in june, i just do not see the braves wanting to give up the amount it would take to get marte.
Nady, however, is an option as he would meet our bench need, but i agree he probably would not be an upgrade over diaz. I really do not think we would want to pay the price for bay, but would love to inquire on him, especially at the deadline. The braves and pirates have a nice working history, so something ocould probably be worked out.
Posted by: bravesbeast | March 30, 2008 at 01:22 PM
first thing i cant think of a more poorly run franchise then the pirates. they are a low budget team yet they trade their big time players for squat, trade for matt morris, and overpay a guy like jack wilson. they seem to be a little smarter lately but that franchise is a joke. i would definitely trade marte. relievers arent nearly as important to a bad team than to a good one. the yankees would give up something of value for him. nady to the mets definitely fills a need but thats weird because he used to play for the mets. if they liked him that much then why didi they let him go? bay to the indians make good sense. the indians have a lot od good young players to choose from and clevelands biggest need is a good corner outfielder. i think it would require at least three players but the indians can spare some young guys. and as for morris and wilson good luck trading them. i like wilson and he would be great for the cards but that salary is ridiculous. morris is washed up and a cokehead. that is why the cards didnt resign him
Posted by: Joelcards | March 30, 2008 at 01:44 PM
It would have been hilarious to see that no one had posted a comment.
Posted by: nic | March 30, 2008 at 02:24 PM
There are actual Pirate fans out there????
Posted by: Josh | March 30, 2008 at 02:41 PM
I can definately see the Orioles becoming interested in Wilson by mid-season. The only SS prospect worth mentioning on the farm is Blake Davis (who is starting AA this season, and like Brian Roberts, could shift to 2B when/if he reaches the show).
A few months of Brandon Fahey, Luis Hernandez, and possibly Freddie Bynum will make a Jack Wilson type desirable. A more than servicable stop-gap player, provided the cost isn't too great, is needed anyway so this deal (or one like it) will get done.
Posted by: Orioles13 | March 30, 2008 at 03:03 PM
Yes, there are a few of us left. If we haven't given up by now, we're clearly in it for the (very) long run.
Anyway, I don't see Wilson to the Orioles. They're rebuilding, not looking for overpaid veterans. I imagine a Wilson suitor will come out of whatever team has an injury at the position.
I don't envy the Pirates' management this year. If the team is doing well there will be a lot of pressure to snap the string of losing seasons. But for the long-term future of the team, they almost have to deal Bay, Nady, et al if their values are peaking.
I'll put my money on Bay to Cleveland once the Tribe gives up on the Dellucci-Michaels platoon (again). Nady to the Mets is possible, unless the Pirates get a better offer, which could be possible since the Mets have next to nothing left on the farm.
Good luck in '08, Buccos, I'll see ya at Dodger Stadium in 2 weeks.
Posted by: CJax33 | March 30, 2008 at 08:49 PM
I think Pirates fans shouldn't be as worried as before.
Neal Huntington and his new front office clearly know what they're doing. He's a classy guy who knew better than to waste payroll on the crappy free agents this year, and preferred to try to give spots to young guys
Posted by: scribbletone | March 31, 2008 at 08:37 AM