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Hanley Ramirez To Sign Long Term
It looks like the Marlins will be locking up their best player for the next six years. Recent reports indicate that Hanley Ramirez will sign a six-year, $70MM deal within the next few days. There is no word on whether all six years are guaranteed, or if there will be any options involved. A six-year deal buys out Ramirez's first two years of free agency.
As we learned back in March, the Marlins haven't signed a player to a multi-year deal since Carlos Delgado in January of 2005. Florida finished third in the NL East that year, and began their infamous fire sale that off-season. This off-season, they traded Miguel Cabrera and Dontrelle Willis, their two highest paid players. They currently reside atop the NL East at 21-14.
Ramirez finished 10th in the NL MVP voting last year, though he probably should have finished higher. He posted by far the highest OPS for a shortstop in the majors, beating MVP Jimmy Rollins's mark by nearly .075. He's said to be a butcher in the field, though, which could force a defensive move in the future. Still, a .948 OPS is a .948 OPS.
In the early goings this season, he's hitting .336/.421/.569 with eight homers. He makes $439,000 this season.
Posted by Joe Pawlikowski, who writes for River Ave. Blues, a Yankees blog.
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wait a second. this must be a joke! jeff loria wouldnt open his wallet to sign vintage babe ruth!
Posted by: fgsfsfbbbrd | May 10, 2008 at 09:47 AM
Surprised Hanley would sign. Great price for the Marlins.
And if you want to compare Rollins and Ramirez, then remember that Florida is a pitcher's park and Philly is a hitter's park. That's 149 OPS+ vs 118 OPS+. Hanley can't field but he's about as good as Jeter and he's been at Short for a decade.
Also Rollins is only a pretty good fielder, but no where near gold glove caliber. I have no idea how he won that award either.
Posted by: Victor | May 10, 2008 at 09:53 AM
its good to see small market clubs locking up their superstars and not letting the likes of the new yorks and bostons outbid them in free agency
Posted by: cincyreds08 | May 10, 2008 at 09:55 AM
Victor:
OPS+ is already park adjusted
Posted by: stellar | May 10, 2008 at 10:04 AM
Hanley is not as good as Jeter in the field. It isnt even close. Jeter is an overated SS these days, but he was always a pretty solid one before he started losing range. Not great, but solid. As amazing as Hanley is in the box, he is that bad in the field. He can not stay there. He is too big and has trouble with almost everthing a SS has to do. Jimmy Rollins is a very good fielder, youre right, but I agree not a GG guy. Hanley has to be at 3B or in the OF pretty soon.
Stellar, I think he knows it is park adjusted, I think that was his point, that their OPS difference was even bigger once you adjust the park factors. Good for Hanley, but I am a bit surprised. I thought he could have probably gotten a 7/200 deal if everything went right for him (meaning no injuries).
Posted by: nrmax88 | May 10, 2008 at 11:37 AM
Hanley can play any position for me. His bat and his wheels make him a top 5 player in baseball.
Posted by: bjsguess | May 10, 2008 at 12:03 PM
Yep, OPS+ is park adjusted which shows exactly how big of an offense rift there is between the two.
As for Jeter's defense, I would only say it was solid or average during his gold glove years. The rest of the time, he's been basically the same as Hanley. Big SS's work when they're athletic like Ripken and Tulowitki and Hanley is pretty athletic. I guess my comment was more of a knock at Jeter because no one gets more credit for defense they don't have. I agree with you though. Move Hanley.
Posted by: Victor | May 10, 2008 at 03:13 PM
Wait ... the Marlins ownership did something intelligent?
Posted by: brianrein | May 10, 2008 at 05:23 PM
Victor, you are absolutely right about Jeter getting more credit for defense he doesnt have than anybody else, but having seen Jeter play for a long time, and being a Mets fan and following the Marlins pretty closely because I have Uggla and Hanley on my keeper team, Hanley really does struggle to play any defense. He is definitely athletic, and I have seen him make fantastic plays, but he seems to get in his own way a lot because of how big he is. Not that this really means much, but I remember him almost playing a groundball into a hit on the final out of Sanchez's no hitter. BJ, I agree he can play SS for me too if I had to choose between playing him at SS or not having him at all, but he is a horrible, horrible defensive SS. But there is no reason to believe, that with his speed, athleticism, and throwing strength that he couldnt be a very good CF. Thats how I see it atleast.
Posted by: nrmax88 | May 11, 2008 at 12:03 AM