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Yanks Eyeing Derek Lowe For '09?

According to Tony Massarotti of the Boston Herald:

There are already indications that the New York Yankees will be among Derek Lowe’s suitors during the offseason.

That's not the point of Massarotti's column; he's mainly discussing Lowe's leverage given his unique durability.  I did a piece of Lowe recently; Scott Boras should be able to get him at least three years and $39MM.  Does he make sense for the Yankees?  Could he succeed back in the AL East for his age 36-39 seasons (or more)?


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3/39 would actually be almost a bargain if Lowe can pitch the way he has with the Dodgers.

Derek Lowe probably would be one of the safest 36 and older pitchers over the past 5 or so years to go after. Less tread on his arm because he lasted as a closer for so long, and he is effective without having to give max effort in terms of his arm.... plus, he is effective. He would be for the yanks what they had hoped mussina could have been on a more consistient basis.

lowe can come back to the al east if he wants, but he will produce his old numbers from his sox years again, dont expect him to be the saving grace for the team. harder batters and lots more of them then in his current league, even if he is on the yankees, and he will be in his ladder years. stay in the nl lowe, for your ERA sake

a pitcher as reliant on good defense as lowe would likely struggle given the yankees' ineptitude in that department in recent seasons. however, his durability is a plus, and 600 innings of 4.50-5.00 ball might be worth the price mentioned to a team with a lot more disposable income (and pitching depth issues) than most.

Every bar owner in NY eagerly awaits that signing.

roy halladay or CC Sabathia would be where i think the yanks look to next year, as long as halladay is healthy and keeps throwing these complete games and Sabathia doesnt look like the goodyear blimp. blanton is also worth a glance for them, no rookies or youngsters for them though, they have to much of that and its not working out for them

i know i should bring it up in another post, but would the yanks consider bringing boomer around again?

holy crap, you actually want wells? why would you want that? wells is 45 has diabetes, hasnt been reliable for maybe 4 years and has not pitched since last year. yankees have to start thinking long term, not year to year, thats why they are in so much trouble right now

As someone who hearts Derek Jeter without being blind to his limitations, having two extreme GB pitchers on the staff might make me cry.

I would love nothing more than for the Yankees to sign another player to an overpriced deal that doesn't pan out.

Me too. A strategy that leads to 13 straight playoff appearances and counting can't be too wrong.

Derk Lowe back in the AL East is a disaster waiting to happen. Let's hope the Yankees learned their lesson with Carl Pavano and Jaret Wright. Lowe has seen his better days in the rearview mirror of his life.

im the opposite of a yankee-fan. but regardless, they need an innings-eater; and i merely suggested wells. he has flaws. yes. major flaws, yes. but he'll still play if he gets the money

"Me too. A strategy that leads to 13 straight playoff appearances and counting can't be too wrong."


Ahh
I love how the expectations have changed this decade.

Sweet

I didn't even think about the defensive issues Lowe would have, but the crowd here is right about that. As great as Jeter is, Lowe's BABIP would go way up without someone with Furcal's range behind him.

As for Wells, anyone else notice how he came back last year with the Dodgers and contributed? But for 2 5 run outings, he was rock solid.

My question is would the Yankees still persue Sabathia if he's available or do the Yankees think that Sabathia is staying in Cleveland? Obviously they are both good options but you gotta wonder which way New York would go. Sabathia is obviously the better pitcher, but he's also going to cost a lot more money for a lot more years.

I could see Lowe ending up in Cincinnati forming an awesome rotation with Harang, Arroyo, Cueto and Volquez. But then again Homer Bailey going to get another shot before that ever happens.

"Does he make sense for the Yankees? Could he succeed back in the AL East for his age 36-39 seasons (or more)?"

...Still think he ends up staying in LA. The team doesnt exactly have a great track-record with pitching. Well now that they found an extremely solid, consistent inning-eater, they should probably try to hold onto him a bit longer if they can. People talk of CC, but that will probably end much like the other disaster SP contracts they have given out. Keep Lowe, spend the extra cash saved on the bullpen instead. The teams headed in the right direction if they can stick to using the kids, see who pans out for longterm and figure out the true holes a year or two further down the road...

What darkstar says makes perfect sense for the Dodgers as well. I think you gotta pencil Penny, Billingsley, Kuroda and Kershaw into the rotation next season. Billingsley has been all over the place with his performance despite great K rates, but he should level out and be a good #2-3 starter by then. With Kuroda in the three spot and Kershaw potentially pitching like an ace in the 4th spot, that leaves one spot left. Kershaw will likely have his innings watched, and the Dodgers probably wouldn't want to put another potential risk in there like a Ollie Perez or a Ben Sheets. For that reason I think Lowe makes sense for them, because he'll at least give them a dependable 200 innings of 3.50-4.00 ERA, solid numbers for a #3. A rotation of Penny, Billingsley, Lowe, Kuroda, Kershaw doesn't have a single hole in it, and would definately let them contend against Arizona. But then again the Dodgers may once again go out on a limb and sign a guy like Sheets or Burnett, hoping to give themselves potentially four legit top of the rotation starters.

I just don't see Lowe coming back, particularly if Schmidt proves to be healthy and effective. They just have too much money tied up in him to also have Lowe and be running with 6 starters, particularly when you consider all the money tied up in Kuroda, Penny and Schmidt.

...not if they sign C.C.

If the Dodgers sign Sabathia, Colletti should be fired. Sabathia is a great pitcher and I think he will even be worth a 5 year contract, but it makes absolutely no sense for the Dodgers financially or on the field, particularly if Kershaw pitches in the majors as he has in the minors and in the Spring.

“I just don't see Lowe coming back, particularly if Schmidt proves to be healthy and effective.”
…Yeah but seriously, what do you think the odds of that are?

“They just have too much money tied up in him to also have Lowe and be running with 6 starters, particularly when you consider all the money tied up in Kuroda, Penny and Schmidt.”
…Its no different than this year though, and don’t forget that Penny is most-likely gone after the 2009 season. Resigning Lowe for a 3-4 year deal where you probably get him at a discount anyway since he seems to like being here and having his ERA deflated and all…

I can just easily see them again going with Penny/Bills/Lowe/Kuroda & with Kersh/Schmidt in the 5th spot, saving both from taxing their arms and ensuring they don’t have to use a scrub when Schmidt goes down. Then in 2010 you have Bills/Kudos/Kersh/Lowe and either one of McDonald/Meloan/Adkins/OtherKid or sign a starter at that point. Lowe bridges the gap between today and the rotation of tomorrow perfectly, ensures you don’t get into a situation where you have to rely on guys who wont be ready, and you pretty much know what you will get. Without him its just so risky in my eyes.

Maybe it doesn’t happen, but for a team which has problems with keeping pitchers both healthy and consistent ~ well, letting someone who is both just seems a bad idea…

I doubt Lowe resigns with the Dodgers. His recent comments about LA weren't too warming.

"If the Dodgers sign Sabathia, Colletti should be fired. Sabathia is a great pitcher and I think he will even be worth a 5 year contract, but it makes absolutely no sense for the Dodgers financially or on the field, particularly if Kershaw pitches in the majors as he has in the minors and in the Spring."

I meant the Yankees, not the Dodgers.

"Ahh
I love how the expectations have changed this decade.

Sweet"

Competent competition finally arrived. Not that Epstein makes the playoffs every year, but he certainly makes things tougher.

Lowe has been lukewarm about the Dodgers, wavering back and forth between loving it and hating it. As for Penny sticking around, I don't see why not. The Dodgers can afford to pay him ace pay and he has been allowed to blossom into a legit ace and Cy Young candidate here, and he gets to benefit from having a Gold Glove catcher blocking his split.

"As someone who hearts Derek Jeter without being blind to his limitations, having two extreme GB pitchers on the staff might make me cry."

I thought it was interesting you brought this up. A few people scoff at the idea of Lowe because of his extreme groundball tendencies and the Yankees questionable defense. This would seem to make sense, but Wang has been incredibly succesful for a while now pitching a similar style to Lowe to that same questionable defense. I think he would be fine. With the Yankees current offense, they could pile up a ton of wins with 5 #4 pitchers if it came down to it. 190 innings and a 4.50 era should be good for 15 or more wins with the Yankees offense and bullpen.

It was a tongue-in-cheek comment. I'll take a GB guy over a FB guy any day; it just hurts to see Derek come onto my TV screen late on ground balls to his side of second base over and over and over ...

Has anyone considered whether Lowe would even want to sign with the yanks given his Red Sox past?

Lowe would be an awful fit for the Yankees. Lowe can be have some brilliant games and seasons like 2002, but he would be murdered by the NY Press and NY Yankee Fans for his erratic game to game pitching. He is better off playing in a place like San Diego, Detroit or Cleveland. I like Lowe, I wish the Red Sox kept him in 2004-2005, but they dropped him because of his off field problems. Actually, I think the Red Sox should try to sign him, if they feel he got his personal life together. I really see him going to the Tigers in 2009.

The Yankees should look at someone like Halladay.

How Sabathia is pitching right now, he is going to have a tough time even trying to sign with the Indians..

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