Yankees Rumors: Jeter, Sabathia, Hudson

As bad of a year Cano has had.. he still finished at .270 with 35 doubles. He ended the year on a hot note thanks to a change in his batting stance and "should" have a much better year next.

All you Yankee haters can say what you want, but I would rather stick with cano then sell at his lowest point. That's not to say that I wouldn't pull the trade for Kemp with all things considered (age, salary, defensive position), but it's unfair to say that Cano is washed up and sucks, which I'm sure will be repeated in many comments to follow.

BklynJT, I agree with you. I'm a Red Sox fan, but I've loved Cano since he made his debut. You can't say he sucks. But, every Yankee fan on this site seems like they're all ready to polish his HOF plaque. He needs a few good years before we can even consider him a top 2nd Baseman.

Notice, no one mentions Dustin Pedroia.

soxfan,

I know Pedroia is a great player, but just like Cano, he has had only one season. Plus, Cano's best season is quite a bit better than Pedroia.

Soxfan, I wont deny the fact that I hate Pedroia just like how I hate Ortiz. That's a testiment to how good Pedroia has been THIS year for the Sox.

When I think about it, I think Ortiz is a great guy, just playing for the wrong team =). Pedroia on the other hand just rubs me the wrong way. He's one of those guys you want on your team but can't stand playing against...

Naw man. It's Youk.

"Plus, Cano's best season is quite a bit better than Pedroia."

I like Cano and dislike the Red Sox as much as the next Yankees fan, but you really can't say that. Depending on your choice of stats, you could argue either way on who's best season was better.

The only way you could say Cano was clearly better was if you took his 2006 stats, which were accumulated over 122 games, and inflated them to a full season's worth. That would've been a great season if that happened, but, it didn't.

Ohhhh how dare you put Kemp and his 160+ strikeouts on the same level as Cano...

"Anyways, is the intent that the Yankees are dangling Cano out there because the 2b market is very weak?"

In short, Cano, Wang, Joba, and Hughes are the major league ready players with high trade value. They desperately need pitching, so they can't afford to trade any of their young pitching.

"Because as many intangibles O-Dog brings to the table, he also brings a history of injuries...I just don't see how at his age he's better than Cano at his age unless the Yankees get a tremendous offer..."

They don't expect Hudson to produce at Cano's level. The idea is to trade Cano for a center fielder of similar ability, then sign Hudson, who would only have to be better than Melky Cabrera to be an improvement to the team.

"I know the Bucs were also interested in KJ at one time and I placed Snell out there as a possibility...any way the Yanks can top that (realistically)?"

I don't think so. Kennedy + Phil Coke or something like that is probably the best they'd give up. Remember, this isn't about getting rid of Cano, it's about trying to fill a hole (center field) without giving up too much.

"Ohhhh how dare you put Kemp and his 160+ strikeouts on the same level as Cano..."

Yet, with all those strikeouts, Kemp put up better numbers across the board than Cano in a pitcher's park as opposed to the House that Was Built for Ruth, the Left Handed hitter (play on words intended).

Kemp is faster, stronger, has a better eye and makes better contact.

"Not to mention his age, and power ceiling around 30-35 HR."

Yep. Kemp is 2 years younger, at least 1 year from arbitration and has 40/40 potential. Cano has none of that.

Fire Ned Colletti Now pretty much summed up the reasons why Cano for Kemp is a Yankee homer dream. If that deal happens, Ned Colletti should indeed be fired. I'd only consider if there was a premium prospect coming back with Cano, and still it would probably end up a no go in my books.

AA, this is why Yankee fans laugh at the Dodger fans:

"Kemp is 2 years younger, at least 1 year from arbitration and has 40/40 potential."

Don't you think it's more than a little bit of a stretch to say someone can be a 40/40 guy coming off an 18/35 season?

Kemp's good, no question about it, but damn, let's keep the talk at least somewhat grounded in reality.

how about this :

Cano and ian kennedy for colby rasmus and bryan anderson.

with the yankees taking some part of the cano's contract.

Im a big yankee fan and this is the problem with some fans we cannot trade players who can perform well in NY cause we know there are many who come to NY and cant cut it. I wan't to stick with cano not that many good 2nd baseman to begin with. we need to keep the ted lilly and soriano of baseball when they are in NY. As for Johan Santana no doubt a stupid move by cashman we need An ace to compliment Wang next year i hope we sign C.C but im not sure on texiera even though everybody wants him I dont think we need that kind of production at 1stbase remember in the late 90's we had seasons that no player hit 30 homers. we need to get back to consistent hitting and very good pitching fast or we will be trailing the Bosox and rays for years to come. this is just a thought for all you yankee fans Raul Ibanez is available and i really like his bat i think he would fit good in NY and a position shift for somebody of his age can be something to explore (1st base)would love to see some feed back for this posting.

"As for Johan Santana no doubt a stupid move by cashman we need An ace to compliment Wang next year i hope we sign C.C but im not sure on texiera even though everybody wants him I dont think we need that kind of production at 1stbase remember in the late 90's we had seasons that no player hit 30 homers"

Longest run-on sentence in history.

Your grammar that is, not you're grammar. Why is there no edit function here?

Wow i get comments about long sentences and grammar this is amazing. Im just expressing a opinion on the yanks not taking a spelling bee test as for micks correcting me no reason to be so serious about spelling. these are the same idiots that said the rays suck at the start of the season and experience is sooo important in sports blah blah blah. It's a crap shoot once you get in the playoffs. Anybody else wan't to correct anymore of my mistakes go ahead but i will not answer any other comments put on here about grammar. Now if you wan't to talk sports lets chat.

I was just gonna say... Ethier for Cano maybe makes a little more sense. Kemp is far better than the Yankee fans realize. The guy runs like the wind, has a great arm, and when he learns a little more patience (which he's already doing) he's gonna be a serious home run threat. I think reuniting Cano with Torre will be good for Cano, and Ethier would thrive in Yankee stadium. I would make that trade if I were Colletti - assuming we resign Manny of course

"maybe Andre for Cano but I still would want Colleti's head on stick if he made that trade"

Well, don't worry, that trade isn't happening. The Yankees already have too many corner outfielders, so a trade like that would just create an additional hole on the Yankees.

Baumbach misses on one key issue in that last post regarding the tricky situation signing Jeter in a couple of years. In A-rod's glorious contract there is that clause that states he can walk if he's not the highest (by $1mil) paid Yankee. For the Yanks GM that makes it easier to jettison A-rod if they decide to by paying Jeter. That is if A-rod in his fashion opts out of the contract.

"joba should stay in the pen b/c honestly a bullpen of joba to mariano is truly by FAR the best 8th to 9th combo. if the yanks pick up C.C., they will have unREAL pitching."

And then they'd have CC pitch the 7th inning, meaning we only need to get 6 innings per start out of Ponson and Rasner and Pavano and the like.

I mean, why would you want 200 innings out of a top of the line pitcher when you could get 70 ? That way we can leave the unimportant innings 1-6 to the guys with the 5 ERAs and save the guys with the 2-3 ERAs for the innings that count extra.

"A lackadaisical player playing in a stadium full of lackadaisical fans."

Have you ever been to Dodger Stadium?

"Don't you think it's more than a little bit of a stretch to say someone can be a 40/40 guy coming off an 18/35 season?

Kemp's good, no question about it, but damn, let's keep the talk at least somewhat grounded in reality."

Did you read what I said? I said he had 40/40 potential, not that he was there. The guy is 6'2. 230 pounds and has hit a ball into the Loge at Dodger Stadium. The power is there. It is just a matter of harnessing it in the same way they harnessed his speed this year.

You do realize that Kemp's batting lines in his first 2 full MLB seasons are better than those Barry Bonds was producing in his first 4, right?

"Did you read what I said? I said he had 40/40 potential, not that he was there. The guy is 6'2. 230 pounds and has hit a ball into the Loge at Dodger Stadium. The power is there. It is just a matter of harnessing it in the same way they harnessed his speed this year."

Saying someone has 40 HR potential when he's coming off a 18 HR season just comes off as pure fantasy.

Cano was commonly called a potential 30 HR guy, but you don't see Yankee fans bringing that up. The Yankee fans base Cano evaluations on the numbers he produced in 2006 and 2007 and get called crazy by Dodgers fans, yet Dodgers fans base evaluations on projections that are not even in the same league as the player's actual production.

"You do realize that Kemp's batting lines in his first 2 full MLB seasons are better than those Barry Bonds was producing in his first 4, right?"

Does that mean Kemp is going to load up on steroids and hit 80 HR in a season?

Note: my last sentence usage of we, was in from cashman's point of view... not mine. I'm not a yanks fan.