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Pete Caldera of the Bergen Record recently chatted with Jake Peavy's agent, Barry Axelrod. Peavy prefers to stay in San Diego, but not if they decide to rebuild. In that case, he'd apparently considering waiving his no-trade clause for three unknown American League teams (his National League number is not known). Axelrod spoke in generalities about the appeal of pinstripes, which could be seen as an indication Peavy might be willing to play for the Yankees.
Peavy would need some kind of extra compensation to approve any trade. Caldera speculates that guaranteeing the pitcher's 2013 option might satisfy him. That'd put him under contract for $81MM over five years - still a market discount. A.J. Burnett might be seeking that kind of contract.
Acquiring Peavy could be the next best thing to signing C.C. Sabathia. Tough to say how Peavy would fare at the new Yankee Stadium - his home/road splits were pronounced in '08, '06, and '03. It's hard to see the Padres trading Peavy to the Yankees without Phil Hughes being involved. Kevin Towers has been Brian Cashman's most frequent trading partner - they've matched up on nine deals (but none since '05).
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"its weird to me that the yanks might be willing to trade for peavy using hughes, but many were hesitant to trade him for johan."
Different year, different time, different result. Last year Hughes had better value and was supposed to have at least have shown more promise today. Injuries have derailed that. And Peavy has more value than Santana.
Posted by: start_wearing_purple | October 11, 2008 at 10:17 PM
RED SOX DYNASTY!:
"One more note on peavy.Reports out of Boston talk of sox trading Youkillis (3b) and Bowden for Peavy and then signing Mark Teixeira to replace Youk at first. Sox then trade Buchholz to Texas for Teagarden and CJ Wilson."
Do you have a source on this, or was it just some idiots on WEEI?
I personally cannot see what San Diego would want with Youkilis who will be 30 early next season. Plus, trading Youkilis and then signing Tex blocks Lars Anderson in a season and creates a flexibility problm at 1B/3B when Mike Lowell gets injured or leaves town.
I'd rather spend money on CC or Burnett than give up prospects for a non-essential upgrade to the teams 4th starter. The only position the Red Sox desperately need to upgrade immediately is at catcher and then the usual bullpen stuff.
Also I am going to assume the Red Sox would flat out hang up the phone if SD asked for Lester + more for Peavy. They wouldn't do it for Santana, and now with Lester's emergence as a dominant force in the AL East they definitely wont.
Posted by: MeddlePAL | October 12, 2008 at 03:24 AM
Would you stop with the arrogance, RED SOX DYNASTY? Just state your opinion and leave. Don't start with the homerism and insults.
As for Peavy, I believe he's more likely to be traded during the '09 year or '09 offseason. I think they'll want to try and see how well they perform next season before trading him. Remember, they did accept Giles's option.
Posted by: TimeToGetReal | October 12, 2008 at 10:13 AM
Red Sox Dynasty
I am enjoying the playoffs. I like how your star Beckett has lost 2 games and allowed 12 runs. I love how the Rays are gonna woop your asses. Oh yeah clay no hit the Oriols while Hughes has won a playoff game and almost no hit Texas but he got injured. Joba had only 12 starts and in 11 of them he allowed not more than 2 runs sometimes 3.
Besides I picked the Phillies to win it all and it looks good right now!
Posted by: yankfan1 | October 12, 2008 at 10:29 AM
"Man, I hope that's not true. Youkilis is an MVP candidate and is just as good as, and younger than, Mark Teixeira. Michael Bowden could be great, too. As much as I like Peavy, I would never give up Youkilis."
First of all, Youkilis is an MVP candidate since the AL was absolutely horrible this year compared to last year in hitting categories. Second, get your facts straight. Mark Teixeira has proven for 5 straight years out of 6 career years that he hits 30HR and 100RBIS. Youkilis hasn't hit 30HR yet, yes i know he hit 29 but that isn't the magical number of 30. Third, Youkilis is not younger than Teixeira idiot. He was born on 3/15/79 and Tex was born on 4/11/80. Before you try to make your player look better than a PROVEN STAR, try looking up the stats before you make yourself look like an idiot.
Posted by: Arod188 | October 12, 2008 at 10:34 AM
Was there any reason there to call me an idiot? lol. Okay, so I was wrong about Youkilis' age. Big deal. Second of all, how about this. You look at the stats:
Mark Teixeira: .308/33 HR/121 RBI/.410 OBP/.552 SLG in his 6th full season.
Kevin Youkilis: .312/29 HR/115 RBI/.390 OBP/.569 SLG in his 3rd full season.
Youkilis still has room to improve, whereas Teixeira really does not.
Your argument makes no sense. "magical number of 30?" Does that even exist? I've never heard that before... Not too magical.
You're just another arrogant Yankee fan.
Posted by: soxfan93 | October 12, 2008 at 10:50 AM
offseason predictions:
Add:
C.C Sabathia 5yr. $150 mill
Mark Texaria
Manny Ramirez
Lost:
Phil Hughes
Melky cabrera
Mark Melancon
Jason Giambi
Mike Mussina
bobby abreu
Posted by: alex | October 12, 2008 at 11:22 AM
guys. what happened with players like ian kennedy, Austin jackson, alan horne, mark melancon,eric duncan , dellin betances, Etc. the list can go on. the yanks have incredible young talent in the farm system. the yanks will get a deal done for peavy, CC, Texeria, or even Manny. so it doesnt neccesarly have to be hughes in a trade.but, if the yanks can leave the offseason with peavy or C.C, and texaria and also have Hughes. i would call the yanks HUGE WINNERS. the yanks need
2 SP
1 1B
1 Outfeilder
even 1 2B (if cano gets traded.).
another pitcher the yanks can get instead of cc, and peavy could be a solid number 2 or 3 starter. pitchers like A.J Burnett, and Ben Sheets.
And who ever mentions Joba in a trade with peavy is stupid. the yanks wouldnt trade Joba in any deal for the next 2-5 years.
Posted by: alex | October 12, 2008 at 11:47 AM
red sox dynasty, I respect fans who know what they're talking about and talk about it civilly. Whether they be Mets fans, Angels fans, Red Sox fans, or even Yanks fans. People like you, I have absolutely no respect for.
"what happened with players like ian kennedy, Austin jackson, alan horne, mark melancon,eric duncan , dellin betances"
Eric Duncan hasn't been a serious prospect for a while now and no team would consider Kennedy worth trading for.
Posted by: start_wearing_purple | October 12, 2008 at 12:39 PM
RSD, you're just proving the point of what an elitist, arrogant person you are.
"remember these people believe melky=johan and every free agent loves hank and hal."
Now you're just plain lying and insulting. Even the most homerish Yankee fans wouldn't believe that.
Keep your comments confined to your mind. We don't need this garbage flowing around the board.
On the lighter side, wherever Peavy goes, success should surely follow for the team that acquires him. However, the Pads probably won't be trading him until next season, where his payroll substantially rises.
Posted by: Smartalec92 | October 12, 2008 at 12:42 PM
"Eric Duncan hasn't been a serious prospect for a while now and no team would consider Kennedy worth trading for."
I agree about Duncan, but Kennedy still has some value. Teams can not look at one year to determine his entire career. He has been consistently good in the minors, and he has shown flashes of promise in the Major Leagues, such as in 2007. I'm not saying he'll be the centerpiece of any deal, but I believe some small teams would inquire to include him in a deal. Some players just might need a change of scenery.
Posted by: Smartalec92 | October 12, 2008 at 12:55 PM
Yes, RSD, one of them will. I'm hoping it's CC, but logic tells me Sheets. I'm guessing that Sabathia signs with the Dodgers or the Giants, and the Yankees sign Burnett and/or Derek Lowe.
Posted by: soxfan93 | October 12, 2008 at 02:02 PM
RSD, you embarrass the rest of us Red Sox fans.
I feel I have to pull something from Scrubs... I have so little respect for you I'm going to stop talking to you in the middle of a
Posted by: start_wearing_purple | October 12, 2008 at 02:21 PM
"He has been consistently good in the minors, and he has shown flashes of promise in the Major Leagues"
So did David Pauley, but no one considers him a prospect worth trading for. Kennedy's stuff will maybe let him top out as a #4 pitcher but more likely he seems to be a AAAA pitcher. But yes, he won't be a centerpiece. If he's part of a deal he'll be that B prospect that's thrown in to make sure the deal works. In a weaker NL division he could be a very solid number 4, but right now he has virtually no value.
Posted by: start_wearing_purple | October 12, 2008 at 02:25 PM
Umm... I'm pretty sure everyone on this site has more respect for start wearing purple than they ever will for you, dude. I enjoy reading SWP's comments because, unlike you, he has baseball intelligence. You have no idea what you are talking about, and never stop bashing the Yankees. We get that you're a Red Sox fan, you just don't need to be a dick about it.
God, the more I read RSN's comments, the more positive I am about him being 8 years old.
Posted by: soxfan93 | October 12, 2008 at 03:44 PM
why thank you soxfan93, my favorite insult from him was the lack of a gf thing. It was kinda funny.
Posted by: start_wearing_purple | October 12, 2008 at 03:51 PM
This guy RSD is just a clown. He has no objectivity, and he can only see what his Red Sox colored sun glasses let him see. SWP, sf3, and lots of other Red Sox fans.... no offense to you guys. This is just one of those trolls who thinks he is smart because he started watching baseball this year and he watches Baseball Tonight on a daily basis. He is just a troll, and I think that anybody who has come across any of his entries would realize he has no credibility, and is probably just hitting puberty. I suggest we all just ignore him, and he will probably just go away.
Posted by: nrmax88 | October 12, 2008 at 05:15 PM
"I suggest we all just ignore him"
I'll second that notion.
Posted by: GeneralManager | October 12, 2008 at 05:52 PM
If the Padres do decide to move Peavy, where do you guys think would be the best fit? I'm thinking the Rays, A's, White Sox, Phillies, Rangers, and maybe even the Astros. But which of those teams would give up what it takes to land him?
Posted by: soxfan93 | October 12, 2008 at 06:19 PM
You know when the red sox won the world seires I thought they'll stop they're bitching but most of them have not. Bome dynasty 6 world series in like 80 years.
Posted by: yankfan1 | October 12, 2008 at 08:13 PM
"You're just another arrogant Yankee fan."
Yeah, I'm just another arrogant Yankee fan... You Red Sox fans always talk s**t to us for making our players look better than they are, and thinking we can get any deal done with "crap prospects". You comparing Youkilis to Teixeira and saying they're equal is insane IMO. I think just about everybody here would agree that Youkilis needs more years of this kind of production to prove he's in the same league as Tex. I'm not TRYING to put down Youk and say he's a bad player, I'm just saying that he's not in Tex's league yet. It just angers me when Red Sox fans are hypocrites in general. Not trying to single you out, you were just the first one I noticed. Teixeira>Youkilis...Period.
Posted by: Arod188 | October 12, 2008 at 08:24 PM
Just putting this out there, I'm not an ignorant Yankee fan at all. I'm not putting down Youk because he is an excellent hitter who also plays flawless defense. I was just trying to make a point. I hate ignorant bloggers as much as the next guy.
Posted by: Arod188 | October 12, 2008 at 08:29 PM
How can you say that Jon Lester will never be a staff ace "based on past performances?" In his career, Lester is 27-8 with a 3.81 ERA. He was 16-6 this year, 7-2 in '07 and 4-0 in '06. That was a very asinine statement that you made, obviously without looking at the statistics.
Posted by: soxfan93 | October 12, 2008 at 09:39 PM
"After having what is the worst type of injury for a pitcher, rotator cuff, and clearly showing he doesn't have what it takes to be a starter right now, Chamberlain is going back to being a bullpen guy for 2009. Even his own catcher said he doesn't belong in the starting rotation at this point in his career."
Ok i would just like to throw out some ideas. First off, Jobas a starter. has been his entire life and will be to begin the season. because theyre going to want to limit his innings THEN theyll move him into to pullpen later into the season. this was the mistake they made last year and thats why he got hurt. he went from a minor workload to a major load.
Posted by: GeneralManager | October 12, 2008 at 09:43 PM
Second. Lester's awesome. just because hes slotted 3rd doesnt make him a #3. this year hes been without question the best pitcher on his team. and next year at worst hell be 2-B.
Posted by: GeneralManager | October 12, 2008 at 09:51 PM
RedSoxDynasty
I agree Joba does have potential and has shown it with a 2.70 starter ERA. It isnt Girardis fault he's in the pen. girardi wants him to start . The reason they started him in the pen this year is because they thought their bullpen was going to suck ass but it didnt.
"Joba's done nothing but show he's got a man-crush for Youk"
You've said this earlier and I didnt catch it till now. If Youk didn't crowd the plate he wouldn't get hit. Hes as bad as Jeter in hogging the plate. What do you expect with a guy that likes pitching 97 and in and Youk got his whole body over the plate. I would of hit him in the head to tell him to back off.
Posted by: yankfan1 | October 13, 2008 at 08:41 AM
RedSoxDynasty
I do agree with you that Lester is an ace. I've always hated him which is a compliment. I've always said though that Beckett would never have the season he had last year and so far its looking good. But I didnt think he would suck this bad in the playoffs. I thought he would still be good.
Posted by: yankfan1 | October 13, 2008 at 08:44 AM
"I Don't know where to start with this one because neither Lester, Hughes or Chamberlain is a staff ace nor is any of them going to be a staff ace anytime in the near future based on past performance."
1) I've never argued Chamberlain was a staff ace. I've argued so far that he's a very special pitcher and if I was Cashman I'd never trade him for Peavy or any pitcher, even if it means not getting Peavy with another package. It would be worth the gamble, especially if I had to give up multiple top prospects along with him.
2) I've NEVER said Hughes is an ace or even an ace in training. If you bothered to read previous posts I've refered to him as a high risk/high reward acquisition.
3) Lester is the staff ace. The staff ace is the guy you give the ball to an feel confident you'll win. Matz had a great year, but gave every Sox fan a heart attack and most people only counted on him being solid through 5. Beckett's injuries this year also derailed him from this belief. But when Lester had to ball, every Red Sox fan felt confident even before the playoffs.
4) Take it from the Red Sox perspective. Would you trade Lester + 4 or 5 prospects including top prospects for Peavy. If you're answer is yes, you're either an idiot or you just want the Red Sox to lose in that trade.
Posted by: start_wearing_purple | October 13, 2008 at 09:58 AM
Simply put, if the red sox wouldn't trade Lester for Santana last year, why would they trade him for Peavy after the stellar year he had in '08? This is the performance they were expecting out him since they projected him as a prospect and proof enough for management that they should continue to hold onto him over guys like Santana, Peavy, et al.
I agree that the Pods need position talent more than pitching and would probably be happy with a MLB ready position player like Lowrie or even Ellsbury plus a pitching prospect. I would love it if they could dump Crisp but that might be asking too much.
Posted by: VermontMonster | October 14, 2008 at 07:19 AM
Only RedSux and Yankmee fans can clog up a message board debating who is more disliked.
Posted by: OmegaMan | October 15, 2008 at 12:27 PM