Boras Contacts Dodgers To Discuss Manny

If Manny doesn't get at least 2/40, one has to wonder what the future holds for Boras and his ability to get the best talent on his roster.

Imagine how you'd feel about it if you saw someone this publicly follow SB's advice and wind up with less per year than you had more-or-less locked up with a perennial contender. I'd be looking for a new agent, personally.

Colletti needs to give Manny 3/$70m TONIGHT and end this madness already.

with Manny having almost nowhere else to go, the Dodgers might aswell offer him something like $15 MIL a season or less. whats he going to do, go somewhere else? nobody else is interested.

IF the Dodgers pass on Manny, could the Yankees still get involved? or are they seriously done?

"Colletti needs to give Manny 3/$70m TONIGHT and end this madness already"
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"Why offer that much when the Dodgers are the only team interested in him?"

Because 23 million a year for the best hitter in the NL besides a certain Cardinal first baseman, is still a steal really

Ah look at Boras coming back. Hahahahaha...I'm seriously laughing at this right now. It takes a lot from a baseball headline to make me laugh, but just the thought of Boras contacting Ned and saying, "Fine...let's talk about Manny" all dejected-like brings a smile to my face and lets me know that there is a good and gracious God with a terrific sense of humor.

I wouldn't mind putting that 2 year $45 million, with a vesting $15 million third option, deal back on the table. Seems reasonable enough.

1 year 17 million with an option next year at 20 million with a 3 million buyout.

"1 year 17 million with an option next year at 20 million with a 3 million buyout."

no, manny could have gotten that without creating all that trouble, he will get over 20 million annually

MANNYWOOD!!

1 YEAR? Ridiculous.

3 years atleast for Manny!

hahaha i said this yesterday when word started circulating the dodgers had expressed interest in dunn & abreu...

it was all a negotiating ploy to get manny & boras' attention.

you knew the minute those reports came out, boras probably thought to himself, "oh crap! i better call the dodgers back before they decide to go forward with those other two guys and manny has nowhere to play next year!"

for once, ned knew what he was doing. he's got boras and manny on strings like puppets right now!

I really think Boras likes seeing his name in print. No reason this should drag on any longer than it has.

its really a lose-lose situation for whoever signs manny. if u sign him for a reasonable price then hes gunna be pissed cause he thinks he worth top dollar. if u sign him for top dollar ur over paying and arent getting good value at all.

Could it be? Two years in a row Boras comes up mostly empty for one of his clients?

Last season it was Andruw Jones. Had Boras not hit the open market the Braves might have gone 4/$50 mm or even 5/$60mm at the end of the '07 season.

Instead, Boras got 2/$36mm and when that deal is over, Andruw may never sniff another eight-digit payday.

Now there's no market for Manny. One team interested in perhaps signing him to a two-year (not a five-year) deal.

OK, so Boras made his money on Tex and will do OK with Lowe.

But once again Scott, when it came to your headline outfielder, as they say out West, you were all hat, no cattle.

Manny being Manny and Boras being Boras. These two deserve each other.

Look at all this manny hate. You would think he's worse than Milton Bradley. I Love Manny. Please come back! MANNYWOOD!!!

Ned is in the drivers seat here. But before everyone gets to excited, Uncle Scotty is where he is for a reason. He has made teams bid against themselves in the past. Hopefully, Ned can turn this into a sweet deal or just walk away.

"Because 23 million a year for the best hitter in the NL besides a certain Cardinal first baseman, is still a steal really"

Make that the best hitter in baseball besides Mr. Pujols. ;-)

$17 million won't get it done anyway. Just about anyone would give $18-$20 million for Manny. I think that $23 million number is solid, especially if it includes a third year vesting option.

Yeah, I suspect in the end Colletti will cough up the money and a third year option.

Good point DodgrDog88

My most shameful hour.

Ah what the hell, I'll still rack in boatloads of ca$h.

manny is first ballot HOF regardless of w/e else happens in his career. aside from betting on baseball

Sucks for the NL West and us Pads fans (he killed us on September) because if LA gets Manny its pretty much their division.

If you had to bet everything you had, would you bet

A. The Yankees will make no further moves and open their new stadium with a lower payroll than last year.

B. The Yankees will recognize the marketing bonanza in Ramirez and go to the whip one more time?

STFU about the yankees, they already have 5 friggin outfielders. Jeez. Yankee fans are spoiled as hell.

Yankees are a joke.

I will just paste an excerpt of a post I made on another thread since it applies here:

The market has moved pretty slowly and I think the reason for the Dodgers still taking their time is that they are waiting for Boras to come back to the negotiating table on Manny.

Look, both sides played chicken and now it looks like the Dodgers were right on their value of Ramirez. There is no 5 yr/$125 mill deal out there for Manny to get.

Now, Boras needs to just take a 3yr/$67 mill deal (with maybe a vesting option) for Manny from the Dodgers and let them go ahead and focus on getting a starter.

Here Scotty, I'll even draw up the parameters:

09: $15 mill
10: $22.5
11: $22.5
Bonus at end of '11 for $7.5 mill

Vesting option for '12 of $22.5 mill based on 600 plate appearances (PA) in '11 or 1,000 PA combined in '10 and '11.

If he stays healthy, he gets 4yrs/$90 mill. Heck, throw him another $4.5 mill buyout if he doesn't earn the option so he is guaranteed 3yrs/$72 mill.

By backloading the deal, it allows the Dodgers to sign a good FA starter like Sheets if he's available.

Or they can also go with cheaper options like Garland or Wolf.

Point is, let's get Manny locked up already.

Scotty, where are ya?! Come, back Scotty!

Looks like Scotty heard me and looks to get a deal done.

C'mon Colleti, lock up Manny to the deal above, go get Garland or Wolf, sign Hoffman and call it an offseason!

I'm a type o but i think manny signs with Dodgers for 3 years, about $70 mil.

I would love the Yanks to snatch Manny out of LA just so we don't have to see him in the N.L West. I think that scenario is quite possible. Just imagine a Yankee lineup...

-Damon
-Jeter
-Texeira
-Manny
-ARod
-Posada
-Cano
-Swisher

That would be insane.

manny is first ballot HOF regardless of w/e else happens in his career. aside from betting on baseball

Posted by: glen_quagmire | December 30, 2008 at 10:00 PM
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Not a chance that is a sure thing...I am pretty sure MLB & the team he signs with will definitely have language in the contract wrt conduct detrimental to MLB as well as the team for which he is playing.

Sure the MLBPA will whine like a bunch of 3-yr olds but if he does dog it and has the track record a case sould be made to suspend him w/o pay...such a sanction would pretty much prevent him for being voted into the HOF...not on the first ballot for sure.

So don't assume there is no chance he would not be voted in no matter what his numbers. he is w/o a doubt on of the most talented players ever...so was Shoeless Joe...of course there was no MLBPA back then either and Landis did not get his cut of the cash.

But I still do not see him hurting his case to secure that spot he really should get...

And understand I LIKE the way the guy plays, when he actually plays. I also like how he understand the system well enough to know where that line is and not cross it...but he won't get away with it a 2nd time. You have ro realize that the Parking Lot Attendent and her Husband the Amway Lady are schister bureaucrats and would do whatever they could to trap him into not paying him for laying down on the job. Employment contracts are complicated and always contain such clauses which have repeatedly been upheld in court when propely documented. But MRam is smart enough to know this and like I have been saying he will not lay down on the job for all of these reasons as well as pride in what he does best.

Adding Manny would indeed be a short-sighted, typical post-2001 Steinbrenner move. Not a good idea. It would prove, once again, that the Steinbrenners know money and not baseball. I'd rather avoid the future media disasters and overpay for Pettitte, or even sign Derek Lowe, instead. I'd rather fill the 4-spot in the rotation than create another hole with that classless headache.

Also, Swisher should be the starting RF, and Nady should be sold high, unless the Yankees keep them both and have them compete. BABIPs suggest that Swisher and Cano should improve from last year, and Nady should regress. Throw in at least partially healthy years from Matsui (he doesn't have a third knee to hurt) and Posada, and the offense should be fine for now. Use the money on pitching and rebuilding the outfield next winter.

Well i've got news folks. If Mannys price falls under the $20 million annually mark your going to see a lot of "non-interested" teams become real interested all of a sudden. Right now teams are just playing the market for what it is and as things start to level off it will be clear what Manny's value is. I think he still ends up a Dodger, but don't be suprised to see a few off the radar teams jump into this before all is said and done.

I hope the highest offer Boras gets for Manny is 2 yrs/34 mil and then Manny goes back to his "I want to get out of Boston" mode and slaps Boras in the face then shoves him on the ground.

My prediction. Dodgers get Manny with 2 yr/$45mm with option 3rd year for $20mm.

My lineup:
-Furcal
-Martin
-Ethier
-Ramirez
-Kemp
-Loney
-Blake
-DeWitt

"Another Boras client crawling back to the first offer. You'd think after ARod no one would deal with this dumbass."

Yes, because I'm sure no one would want to make 30M a year and more money than anyone in the game's history.

I can see this scenario:
Bud Selig's office
Secretary comes in Selig sleepig and snoring away.
"Wake up Commisioner Selig, the Yankees just signed Manny Ramirez, they now have signed the top 4 Free Agents in the market this year."
"So, why did you wake me up for this?"
" I thought you should know about this, Dodgers lost their drawing card, Milwaukee lost their drawing card, and now Toronto is getting a fourth round pick, for one of the best pitchers last year in the American League."
"Wake me up, when I have to throw out the first pitch of the year."
Back to sleep...Snore!

"Toronto is getting a fourth round pick, for one of the best pitchers last year in the American League."

AJ Burnett wasn't that good last year. Slightly better than league average.

The Dodgers and Manny NEED each other and they both know it. They will get together once the posturing is done for about 3 years plus and option. The pitching is the big issue. Claudio Vargas? Lord give me strength. They need one stud and one back of the rotation starter or they will finish behind the Giants. Pitching wins and SF has it and we do not.

"I'm not saying this isn't backfiring, just that the ARod deal is an example of Boras at his best, not his worst (well so to speak). The guy managed to leverage more money from Hicks than anyone else was even bidding, swing a deal to the biggest market, opt out, and sign an even better deal. I hardly think that would influence another client to not choose Boras."

Arod wasn't with Boras when he signed with Texas. That's why Boras wanted him to opt out, he received no money from his contract. Same thing going on with Manny now. Manny's contract was signed with his former agent.

This is sooo funny.. Now these 2 slithering lizards are at the point of begging for a contract now with Dunn and Burrell still available. I want Burrell with the Rays really, but if the Dodgers would sign him, it would end all hopes of that slime ball Ramirez getting anywhere near of the contractual option years he cried and lied himself out of last year and would be the ultimate laugh off at both boras and ramirez himself. Cannot think of 2 people in baseball that would deserve it more either.

Even without a raise Manny will be the highest paid outfielder in baseball. He'll also be the highest paid player that doesn't play for a new york team in terms of A.A.V.

Give him his stupid 2.25-2.5 million a season raise so Boras can do what he does best and hold a press conference and crow on about the new record he set for an avg annual value contract for an outfielder.

"A-Rod was a Boras client when he signed with Texas"
My mistake, must've confused it with the Yanks not reveiving money from Texas as part of the original contract before the opt out.

"4th round pick or AJ Burnett, HMMMM let me think about it."

$82.5 million for AJ Burnett to be a league average pitcher.

hahahahahah i look at all you lil red sox cry baby's love it keep posting!!!!!!!!!!!! makes me feel warm inside "wahhhhhhh"

Manny ending up with less than $20M/year would be the best thing that happened to baseball this year.

Bragging about Pavano? Is it New Year's Eve already?

paxterj: "I wish my teams had players tank like that..."

For just $75M for three years they can. Good luck with it.