Derek Lowe Rumors: Wednesday

If the Braves want to have a shot at the playoffs this year, then they need to get involved in this bidding. 3 year 45 mil should get this done. Lowe may not be as filthy as Burnett but over the next 3 years Ill take Lowe over Burnett all day...

The Braves aren't interested in dealing with Boras, that much is pretty clear.

As for your list Tim, none of those other then the Braves really fit the "East Coast" preference that Lowe has indicated he has. They would really have to go above and beyond the Mets offer to be able to convince him otherwise (Sorta like the Yankees w/ Sabathia).

I agree about the 3 yrs $45 mil. It's a competitive offer. Then if you lose on the biddng then just move on to Sheets or Kawakami. I don't see the harm in at least giving Lowe an offer.

Yea I don't think the Red Sox want to put up with Boras' crap after the Tex saga, so I don't see them getting in this. I don't see the Yankees getting in it either. The Yankees 5th starter will be Pettitte or Hughes.

I wonder if the whole Texeira situation with BOS will cost Boras' other clients (Lowe, Varitek) a chance to sign with BOS.

The Red Sox can't rely on Buchholz because he was a disaster in 2008. Masterson is better fit for the bullpen and Bowden is inexperienced. As of now they only have four pitchers in the rotation. I'm not sure Penny is going to do well in the AL. I think its a good idea to look for another starter. I think after the fiasco with Tex the Red Sox are not going to be comfortable dealing with Boras in the future.

I don't see the Red Sox going for Lowe, given their young pitching and relative strength in their rotation. Beckett, Dice-K and Lester is arguably the best 1-2-3 punch (Lincecum-Johnson-Cain?) in baseball assuming that they are all healthy. They should save their money and use it to get another big time bat to replace Manny.

As an aside, I really hate Metsblog. It is so painfully obvious that Matt Cerrone is a thief. He must simply come on this site two or three times a day and then reposts whatever news Tim and Co. gather. I read both sites all the time and can't remember the last time Cerrone had something before it was on MLBTR. In addition, Cerrone's analysis of a players skills typically cite things like BA, RBI, Wins, and grittiness. On top of all that, you get his arrogant posts saying things like "I was among the first to report that Lowe was going to only get three years" on all of his posts, when it is painfully obvious that that is the case. He doesn't report anything, he simply steals actual work from MLBTR.

"I wonder if the whole Texeira situation with BOS will cost Boras' other clients (Lowe, Varitek) a chance to sign with BOS."

Didn't the Yanks have the better bid? How can the Sox be upset with Boras for that?

"Matt Cerrone is a fool if he believes the signing of any Boras client is inevitable."

Has there ever been a Boras client who didn't sign a contract?:)

According to a friend who lives in Boston, the local news last night was reporting that the Marlins want Jacoby and Buchholz for Hanley. Is it insane to have not already taken that deal?

i really hate the yanks so i hope boston gets hanley..couldnt imagine that guy motivated on a good club..scary numbers.

Also...

I would love to see the Mets add Dunn or Abreu, with preference to Dunn. Dunn can fill in one of the OF slots this season, and come out late in games for Reed who should provide better defense. When Delgado is gone next year and there doesn't project to be any prototypical power firstbasemen on the market, Dunn can move over to 1B.

Given that the price of these guys should be very reasonable, the Mets would be insane to not pick up an additional bat. Of course they could just sign Manny and I would be a very happy camper.

Last year with Sox Lowe was demoted to bullpen, yes. I wonder what the Dodgers did to make him so valuable now.

Has there ever been a Boras client who didn't sign a contract?:)

Posted by: Nick-YF | December 31, 2008 at 09:41 AM

Haha!! Gotcha.
Let me rephrase. Matt Cerrone is a fool if he believes that the signing of a Scott Boras client to a specific team is inevitable.

I'm having trouble seeing the Cubs get in on Lowe. It's possible I guess but clearly they want a hitter. With all the corner outfielders available (more outfielders available than teams looking for them) they'll easily get one. Unless they've got more money to spend than we think or their ownership situation gets cleared up quick and the new owner approves it I think they'll be done after getting their hitter. Lowe would be interesting in Wrigley but it's a long shot at best.

The reason for Boston not having serious interest in is because of the handful of off the field issues he had there. in addition to some of the "rumblings" around LA of the same, Lowe to Boston wasn't the great fit most thought it would be.

"Last year with Sox Lowe was demoted to bullpen, yes. I wonder what the Dodgers did to make him so valuable now."

Played in the NL West.

I'll believe Boston doesn't have serious interest in Lowe when he signs. At this point, Boston, the NYY, the Angels, a lot of teams should be kicking the tires if this is the highest offer.

Boras usually gets what he wants for his players but sometimes you get a Kyle Loshe 2008 who slips through and gets a terrible contract. These are the players you have to try and get. My guess this year it will be Oliver Perez due to his inconsistency.

Boras is in a tight spot this year because there is only one suitor each for Manny and Lowe but if their prices fall enough I can see more mid market teams getting in on the bidding.

In an outfield and Pitching Market this deep it is hard to get the max amount of players for your players because there are many other options out there.

The Mets were in a perfect position for Krod and now in a great position for Lowe.

Sox were smart they would put Masterson in starting rotation. Almost mirror image of Lowe.

unless the braves have a trade almost worked out for a pitcher that noone has heard about then expect them to be interested in Lowe And do not expect to hear much about it - Wren is going to want to keep it as quiet as possible

if the mets really aren't going past 3 years and 40 million, frank wren needs to make an offer of 4 years and 52 million, with the willingness to go to 60. Accomplishes two things: keeps lowe from the mets and gives us our top of the rotation starter. Re-sign smoltz and the rotation is set.

To all those Braves fans out there who are pissed that the Braves aren't doing anything while the Cubs are attempting to reopen negotiations for Peavy and the Mets are close to landing Lowe, fear not. Frank Wren's been very open with the media with Furcal, Burnett, and Peavy and none worked out. Im pretty confident that Wren is coming up with a sneaky scheme right now. Im pretty sure that Johnny Schurloltz told him from now to deal his way and that way is silent but deadly lol. Happy New Year everyone:)

With Hanley on the sox...they would be scary..

SP - Beckett
SP - Matsuzaka
SP - Lester
SP - Wakefield
SP - Penny

1. H. Ramirez
2. Pedroia
3. Ortiz
4. Youkilis
5. Bay
6. Lowell
7. Drew
8.
9. Varitek

and for a CF, they should package up Lugo(eat some salary) and package a prospect for a decent CF. I dont think they even need bucholz and ellsbury. Bucholz will be a pretty good top of the rotation pitcher and ellsbury can be a very good leadoff man, but to get the best shortstop in the game today who is signed wayy below market value...id take that trade in a heartbeat.

"Last year with Sox Lowe was demoted to bullpen, yes. I wonder what the Dodgers did to make him so valuable now."

Lowe made himself more valuable by dropping his BB rate and increasing his K rate. Also, Lowe was never in the 'pen in 2004, other than in the ALDS.

"Played in the NL West."

Not particularly, seeing how Lowe gets murdered at Coors to the point that they restructured their rotation around games there. I will say, however, that playing at Dodger Stadium was a plus for him because he doesn't give up a lot of HRs (the one real way Chavez Ravine is a hitter's park) and because the stadium has the best infield in baseball.

"According to a friend who lives in Boston, the local news last night was reporting that the Marlins want Jacoby and Buchholz for Hanley. Is it insane to have not already taken that deal?"

If that is true, the Sox should take that deal every day and twice on Sundays.

"The reason for Boston not having serious interest in is because of the handful of off the field issues he had there. in addition to some of the "rumblings" around LA of the same, Lowe to Boston wasn't the great fit most thought it would be."

The "rumblings" you speak of were those that Lowe was porking Carolyn Hughes behind his wife's back, which was completely true. Lowe just married Hughes.

"I remember last year with Sox he got bombed in Fenway, something like 10 runs in 3 innings, against Rangers."

And what game was that?

ink-stained scribe,
I hear yea my man and don't worry it'l work out. We've got money, prospects, and a market that's still full of talent.

Nrmax88 and WrightReyes are right on the money. Its amazing that people can take Metsblog seriously.

Why bother reading a site that essentially copies all its information from MLBTR and the 20/20 flashes from our local sports station WFAN. And to say that his analysis is worthless would be kind.

I've got to believe that the Braves will get in on Lowe, maybe because I've got not much else to believe in at this point! But I'd think that with the money they have to play with, they could overpay a bit or overextend a bit for Lowe, for two reasons: he's a solid front-end type of guy, and Frank Wren desperately needs to do something to restore hope in the fan base. I'd venture a guess at something like 4 years, $45 million range should at least get them close to a deal.

MT Braves Fan,
You're certainly right about Wren needing to restore hope to the fans. Everyone I've talked to wants something to happen very soon. Hopefully he's got something very good in store for The Braves fans.

im thinking Frank Wren is going to do some kind of deal just because he knows he has to to put butts in the seats.

i just feel as though with all of the stuff he has done that has gotten overly publicized he is being a little quieter and careful who he works with.

Towers told everything about the Jake Peavy, and it was said from the start that he was going after AJ. The Furcal thing was actually not found out about till it was "announced" the only reason that went sour is because other people announced it done when they found out about the term sheet then of course he signed with the dodgers.

just look at the Vazquez deal. no one knew about it and i have a feeling the next few deals he makes are gonna be the same way