No Andruw Jones Trade In The Works

That's just sad. Has the hate on Castillo gone that far? Come on, he isnt worth 6.5m per, but he is better than replacement player, at least.

if andruw thought dodger fans were bad when he was hitting .189...

if not Castillo, then who? Mets take on Jones' salary, then it's definitely Castillo that going... X

Andrew Jones is BADDDD

Wait! Idea! The Mets take Jones off of LA's hands in exchange for free passage to Manny Ramirez. The Dodgers then sign Dunn as a replacement. Any chance that could be the case?

Makes zero sense. Angel Pagan is better.

BTW that was a lot of sarcasism!

I can see it happening. That would be great for the Dodgers.

If we could then sign Manny and Dunn and then trade Loney and Hu for Bedard and Carp, I'd be happy.

Dusto, no way the Dodgers trade Loney. He's one of your best young players. I love the guy. There's also no way the Dodgers are signing both Manny and Dunn. They'll probably get Manny, unless the Wilpons change their minds or Kenny Williams decides he wants him, and Dunn will end up with the Nationals.

Oh, this is just so gross. [Gasps for air amidst the smell of vomit] Ewwwwww...

Based on the way Andruw played last year I would have been happy if the Dodgers released him. I just hope that if he is being swapped for another bad contract that its only for one year. Good luck Met fans this guy is one fat loser. I think the thing I hated most about him is the fact that every time he would strike out he would shake his head with a huge smile and laugh. Almost like he was saying "my god I suck this bad and they are still paying me this much money, I Love Baseball!" It made me sick to my stomach.

Who the heck would the Dodgers get in return if it isn't a swap of bad contracts? Mets fans, do you guys have any idea who Minaya has on his list of "players-to-trade"?

This offseason is a complete failure if this happens and we do not sign two of the following: Manny Ramirez, Derek Lowe, Oliver Perez. We're still well behind Philadelphia in terms of team talent, even with Lowe in the fold. Throw in Andruw Jones...oh God...

"If we could then sign Manny and Dunn and then trade Loney and Hu for Bedard and Carp, I'd be happy." <~~~ Ahahaha @ this. Why on earth would you want to give up Loney??

If the Mets only paid $2MM or so of his deal, how is this not a decent upside play? For as disgusting as he's looked the last 2 seasons, he still hit 90 HRs over the 2 before that. If he sucks for a month or two, release him.

metsobsessed - hence the comment about a quick hook if (ha!) he sucks.

I'm a Braves fan, and part of me would love nothing more than for the Mets to foolishly leave Andruw in RF all year to the tune of a .650 OPS. But I've lived that nightmare twice over: Andruw in '07 and Francoeur in '08.

*vomits*

I don't know that I could even wish that on the Mets :)

"Makes zero sense. Angel Pagan is better."

No. No. No. There is really no part of baseball Pagan is good at. He is a good athlete, but he is one of the stupider players I have ever seen. Andruw Jones for 1 year for some loose change? Sign me up.

if dodgers pay $20mm of his $22mm and ship him to metsland, not too bad for either team.

it's a shame billingsley won't have the courage to throw at the guy's chin when we face him.

that'd be one way to get rid of that stupid smug smile.

It doesn't even really make sense...Jones is due 22.1 million for next year (15 million next year, plus 2.1 bonus in 09, plus 5 million bonus in 10). Castillo's due 18 million over 3 years. As bad as Castillo was last year, Jones was worse. I mean, if you want to ask Andruw Jones to play the Endy Chavez role in 2009, he might be mildly useful (Albeit horribly overpaid), but that's about it.

I can't even come up with a reasonable Jones swap that I would be content with, since I would want them to eat Castillo's contract, AND eat much of the salary difference for 2009.

Julio Lugo for Andrew Jones still makes a ton of sense to me.

Once again, nrmax88 proves he is far too abrasive and unintelligent to even sound remotely knowledgeable. Andruw Jones is quite possibly the worst player in the major leagues. Why would you wish that on the Mets? Why? Do you even like the Mets?

Omar!!! Fat drunk and stupid is no way to go through life!

Walk away from the telephone! NOW!

for the record, i think andruw's cooked. however, i also said edmonds was cooked when the cubs picked him up, and he turned out just fine. granted, we paid nothing for him so it's a different situation, but andruw is also 7 years younger than edmonds. you get the dodgers to pay a whole lot of that salary, could turn out ok. i wouldn't pay more than 2 mil for it, though, if i'm the mets.

Dude, what have I ever said to sound unintelligent. You didn't want K-Rod, and yet you want Pedro and Andruw Jones! Explain yourself, please, so that I might understand where you're coming from.

I can see it happening. That would be great for the Dodgers.

If we could then sign Manny and Dunn and then trade Loney and Hu for Bedard and Carp, I'd be happy.

why would we trade hu for bedard? he is a canidate to be realeased and u want to give up hu. then u also want loney!? ur crazy

I think this would make a lot more sense for the Braves, as they would provide an environment where Jones would be comfortable, and would hopefully find him a lot more receptive to input on his swing. The fact is he is a great athlete and anyone who gets him will get a steal, considering LA will end up paying around 90% of his remaining salary. He will be better next year, that is unquestionable but how much better depends on the situation he ends up in. He needs to go somewhere relaxed (and NY doesn't fit that bill). As a braves fan they obviously made the right decision last off season, but considering our best outfielder is coming off his worst season and we literally have no one ready in the other two spots, it might be the right time to take that flier on Jones. And anybody who thinks he is the worst player in baseball might ought to think about the 10 gold gloves he has sitting on his shelf, and the fact that he is playing winter ball for the first time in 10 years.

"Wait! Idea! The Mets take Jones off of LA's hands in exchange for free passage to Manny Ramirez. The Dodgers then sign Dunn as a replacement. Any chance that could be the case?"

Uh, if anything, they'd be getting rid of Jones to make room for Manny.

tyler - his line in '07 was only marginally better. Not saying that there wasn't/isn't something physically wrong with him, but he's gone from elite to below replacement level the past 2 seasons.

No, sampsonite, they get rid of Jones because they want to get rid of Jones. That also conveniently makes room for Dunn on their roster. My line of thinking was that the only way the Dodgers could trade Jones to the Mets and not get back Luis Castillo was if the Dodgers allowed the Mets to pursue Manny unopposed. That would then let them focus on Dunn. I know it's unlikely, but it was just a thought.

Nrmax, I was not. I said I would probably sign him for 4/56 at most. The fact that they got him for 3/37 is nothing short of a miracle. If you can find me a place where I said "I want K-Rod for 5/75 now!" then you win. But I never said that.

A little advice: I know you're probably in about 7th or 8th grade now, but in the real world, telling people you are amused by their alleged stupidity is not going to get you anywhere.

Julio Lugo for Andrew Jones still makes a ton of sense to me.
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As a red sox fan, as sad as this sounds..would probably go through with that trade there. haha. Red Sox Need a fourth outfielder and Fenway is a hitter park!

"He is a good athlete, but he is one of the stupider players I have ever seen."

I think it's written in the bylaws of mlbtr somewhere that you cannot call someone else stupid and use the word stupider at the same time, seeing as it isn't even a word.

Hahahaha. Jason F, that's fantastic.

I just love the cheap, high upside opportunities. Pedro and Andruw are that. Especially Pedro. As a number 5 starter, Pedro carries almost no risk. People seem not to get that. For 1 or 2 million, I will take the chance that Andruw figures out what went wrong and rebounds somewhere close to what we were used to seeing from him. But it obviously is a better idea to trade prospects for Xavier Nady, who has never been anything more then a league average baseball player(but he is gritty and hard nosed, plus a fan favorite!), then it is to take on Andruw for free and see if he can find some of the elite level production he once had. Sigh. No risk here.

If nrmax is in 8th grade then I'm impressed. I'm not sure how much that counts though considering that I'm in 11th grade.

McCourt may not eat salary, but if he can dilute a one year hit over three years, I could see the deal from his standpoint.

As for the Mets, this deal only works as a precursor to signing Orlando Hudson. But does a FA pitcher and an extra $15 million of Jones add up to the significant upgrade at 2B?

He set the saves record and he's 26 years old? That enough reasoning? The guy is probably the fourth best closer in baseball, behind Mo, Nathan and Papelbon (Lidge is 5; one more year and he passes K-Rod and Pap).

Pedro and Jones both carry risk. Pedro could get hurt, forcing Niese into the rotation when he's not ready, and putting us in a big hole. Jones could take away at-bats from more productive hitters like Ryan Church and Daniel Murphy.

Just read on Metsblog: "I can see it now...Mid-July...Andruw Jones and Marlon Anderson battling it out to reach the Mendoza line." LOL!

No, Pedro carries absolutely no risk. If you sign him, you bring in another veteran insurance policy, an idea that you conveniently don't respond to any time it comes up. You just said that Murphy and Tatis were a fluke, so how is it so bad if they lose some AB's?

Zing!

You are using saves as a reason that paying K-Rod 3/37 "is nothing short of a miracle."

Really?

Saves?

"What? Whatever...I'm tired of insulting people on a blog. I actually have a life. "

Yeah, yeah. Likely story.

"You are using saves as a reason that paying K-Rod 3/37 "is nothing short of a miracle."

Really?

Saves?"

And this guy is going around insulting the intelligence of others. Ironic, huh?

See like that wasn't even mean, considering I called him intelligent.

I'm just classy like that. I'll insult you, but at least you still got something going for ya.

Intelligence totally gets you chicks in eighth grade.

2005 was a long time ago for a 39 year old pitcher who has had several surgeries since that time. I would be shocked if Pedro even gets anything more than a league minimum, incentive laced contract for more than one year.

tyler - I def. think there is a chance Andruw could rebound. How good of a chance, and to what extent, remains to be seen.

I personally think that while Andruw may never get back to where he was in his 02-06 prime, it wouldn't surprise me to see him hit for an OPS around .800 with 20-25 HRs.
I wouldn't take him for anything less than $4MM or so though, if I'm the Mets.

Sweet.. If the Mets take Andruw, I will personally pay for a one-way economy airfare from LA to NY for him. Good riddance!

nrmax, I stand (amazingly) corrected. My apologies. I cannot believe "stupider" is actually in the dictionary. I know for a fact that when I was building a foundation for spelling and grammar that it definitely was not. Now, I am left wondering when it was added and why...

I'm not going to bother reading the comments, I'm assuming at least 50 of the 90+ comments right now are ZOMG NOOOOOOO ANDRUW JONES SUXXX I'M GONNA SLIT MY WRISTS IF HE'S A MET type stuff. Let's get a few things straight, shall we.

1. If Andruw Jones is traded, it is pretty much a given that the Dodgers are eating almost all of his contract or taking back a really bad contract with similar money owed in return. The Dodgers need the roster spot to pursue someone of value. So, an Andruw-to the Mets trade will have ZERO, repeat, ZERO bearing on any other free agent signings, since the Mets will not be sinking any significant money into him. 1-2MM tops. The Dodgers are quintessentially releasing him, except maybe getting 1MM of salary relief in return.

2. This is what you call a buy low. We all remember the Richie Sexson Yankees experiment in '08, right. When he sucked, the Yanks released him, and they paid peanuts for him. Andruw Jones has a shitton of upside. Seriously. His 2007 season is valued at much more than 1-2MM when factoring in defense. Oh, and even in his dismal 2008, he played above average defense (albeit small sample sizes are in play here).

For a team with the payroll resources of the Mets, taking a gamble on Andruw Jones can't hurt. I wouldn't say the same about a team with stricter payroll constraints, but it can't hurt on the Mets.

andruw jones will do fine here in ny if we get him hes gonna have a nice lil comeback of a season they should defintly get rid of casitllo and sign hudson or have murph dog play 2nd base