Giants Rumors: Renteria, Howry

I hope the Giants sign him.

I'm not sure why people would be so down on this deal. He would likely sign for something like 2/16, and that's not exactly a deal that would cripple the Giants.

They hardly have much in terms of good short term shortstop options, unless Burriss or Velez emerges as a solid everyday option.

Renteria mashed in the NL in 2007, and was a solid to good hitter over the course of the past few years. He should be able to post a 290/350/430 line at short, which would help add some stability to the lineup.

It wouldn't be the much needed power that team needs, but it's not the terrible deal some think it is.

This will not help SF. They need a power bat (Teixeira) to help generate runs. I'll be the first to admit, Renteria has had some good years in the NL, but his defense and range continues to decline. This is another typical, bonehead Sabean move.

Personally I believe that Renteria should make a reunion with the Cardinals. They will respect him there and need him more than ever. No offense but instead of Rafael Furcal in the tags in should be Edgar Renteria.

Leland,

part of my reason for my response to the signing is that most giants fans were dreading this. Yes he could be decent, but if they're spending this much on Renteria (who's at best an .260 hitter with 10hr's and 60 RBI's what are they going to spend on what they need. they'd be better served going with a Cesar Izturus or Nick Punto who'll have similar production and half the cost and improve other areas.)

I'm not a big fan of signing Renteria but he would be the least risky option of all the free agent shortstops
my only hope is that if they get renteria we can trade for someone like Adrian Beltre or sign Adam Dunn or another big bat.
Bobby Howry would be a nice pick up too.

and Brandon W. Fisher
Teixeira will not come to SF as much as i want him to
he'll be with the angels or somewhere in the east coast

"Where are the runs going to come from in SF? Clearly, they have the framework for a great pitching staff and a terrific farm system. A guy like Tex or Dunn would be a better fit than Renteria, who is really more of a role-player at this point in his career."

Agreed.

But, my feeling is Tex will never come to SF. Dunn could be a valid option if its a 2 or 3 year contract. maybe Burrel could play first????

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Velez can't play SS. He can hardly play 2nd. He has freakish speed and could develop into a decent bat but a SS he'll never be. His lousy defense cost Lincecum the ERA title.

I do like both these moves. Bullpen help and a veteran SS who can hit. If we added Dunn and a average starter this could be .500 team. Which is in the hunt out west.

Saying renteria is at best a .260 hitter is crazy considering at his worst he hasent done that. I dont really think moving to the NL will help that much because the theres very good pitching in the NL these days. But hes still an above average hitter but below average defense. Were talking about a team signing a decent player, I dont think hes the "big splash".

Renteria is clearly on the decline. Who knows if he'll hit .260 next year. He'll probably hit higher than .260 no matter where he goes, but .260 isn't outside the range of possibilities depending on how fast his decline is. That said, if the Giants sign him to a 2 year deal $8M per, it wouldn't kill them, but it would probably be a waste of money.

As for Howry, he's 35 and is coming off a horrible season. He may have a little bit left in the tank, and could have a bounceback year, but he could just as easily fall off the map. I wouldn't sign him to anything more than 2 years at $7M and preferably a 1 year deal with incentives and an option.

My initial reaction to these rumors last week was pure anger. I mean, how stupid did Sabean have to be to not wait until after the arb deadline. Thank god that was false. But now that they have waited, and he was not offered arbitration, and I have had a few days to mull this over, it may not be as bad as it once seemed.

Now, Renteria is not the answer to the Giants problems, but they shouldn't be trying ti fix it all this year. IF, and it's still a big if, the Giants do get him on a 2 year deal, WITH the money being NO MORE than 17 million, this isn't a bad move. Manny Burriss may not be the answer for this year, but he deserves a shot at second and has shown every reason to be optimistic for his future.

My major problem is this: Twice in the last 2 days, Burriss' name has been thrown out there as possible trade bait if they can get renteria. Why is this a good thing. Renteria is not a long term thing. Emmanuel Burriss just played his first season above A ball, did it well, and has many years to develop a little more pop. Why should the Giants be trading their young positional talent for anything. The giants farm is much improved over the last few seasons but A) isn't deep at any position except pitcher B) All, and I mean 100% of their well regarded positional talent is no closer than high A ball at the end of the current season. Most are between 16-19 years old. With the Exception of Burriss, Sandoval, Ishikawa, and Schierholtz, the Giants don't have alot to fall back to until 2010 at the earliest. So once again, I say it's not supposed to be fixed this year. Don't trade Manny Burriss, give him one more year to develop.

Everyone who is a Giants fan should be sending a message to the team contact page.

bet ya he wants to sign with the Giants so he doesnt have to face Lincecum.............At this point i really dont think that Giants fans should be moaning about anything as anything is an improvement over what they have..........and to those who are like sign tex.......really?

Howry is a done deal. Giants signed him. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=22&entry_id=33208