Brewers Peavy Rumor Shot Down

The Brewers seem like a good match. They could get a deal done around Escobar.

Any deal starts with Jeffries IMO.

"Jake still has a no-trade clause. I'm guessing he's not going to waive unless the Brewers are looking to contend. If they're not doing much better than the Padres before the deadline, why would he leave SoCal just to lose in Milwaukee?"

The Brewers are one ace away from contending.

Peavy is that ace. Milwaukee wouldn't be giving up any pieces from the major league level for Peavy. It would be all prospects. Peavy makes that team the NL Central favorites.

Wow! First time I thought about this. The Brewers could for sure put an interesting package together. If the Padres do this now though will they completely alienate their fans at a time when ticket sales are going to be down?
What would it take?
My guess Escobar, Gamel, and Parra.

Gamel to the Padres makes no sense.

The Padres are stacked at 1B with Blanks and Adrian Gonzalez. Gamel is a 1Bman.

I see Escobar, Jeffries, and a 3rd prospect I can't think of.

". As strange as it sounds, and depending on the development of Gamel, what about a 3 way deal? Fielder to an unknown team, prospects from unknown team to the Pads along with a good rather than elite prospect from the Brewers, and Peavy to the Brewers. A lot of midlevel teams could use Fielder's relatively cheap power for a few years in exchange for someone elite."

Angels would make a great 3 way deal. Do something with two of Wood, Walden, and Adenhart.

"The Brewers are one ace away from contending."

Hm, aren't they all? The Brewers had two aces last year and still fell short. Besides, if they're in the basement when the trade is proposed they're not going to look very appealing to Jake for waiving the NTC.

"The Brewers had two aces last year and still fell short."

Falling short and contending are two different things. They will contend with Peavy (just as they have been contenders for a few seasons) but will still fall short.

"peavy will be a cub or a padrae only"

I'm guessing you're a Cubs fan. If the Brewers get seriously, they'll easily out distance any Cub offer. A lot of systems are rating Gamel and Escobar higher than Vitters as a prospect. And from the last I heard, the new Cubs management isn't interested in adding Peavy.

There's only one word that come to mind when I read this article: speculation. I'm pretty sure every team is interested in Peavy. Just because you have interest in someone doesn't mean there's anything closely resembling internal dialogue going on. Nothing is going to happen. This is un-newsworthy speculation.

It wouldnt take that much for peavy. Come on people I am pretty sure I heard a rumor the padres want to start the trade with jj hardy. Which actually makes sense if esobar is really the next jose reyes like pele are making him out to be but I would think a package of hardy and some prospects and maybe even gywnn jr could get the deal done not sure what level prospects but hey we definitly have way more than the cubs have to offer. I think if it is going to happen it happens after the first month if one of our starters goes down and escobar is hitting well enough to warrant a call up.

peavy will be a CUB if they want him and especially IF new pads owner want to move him 4 more futre prospects
OTHER THAN THAT PEAVYS NTC will veto any trade

damn, its a real shame that that the pads/dodgers cant match up. the dodgers would love to have him and have prospects that could be 'expendiable' because they have vets or older kids ahead of them that arent going anywhere. a deal could be built aroung lambo and dejesus jr, etc. But, those two will never lock up with a trade because that pads dont want to face peavy for 5 yrs and the dodgers will never give up Kershaw, Billz, or Kemp to a divison rival.

Nelson T Craig. I think you nailed the package. I like a Gwynn Jr. and a J.J. Hardy in there. Then you add 2 pitching prospects/mlb ready arms and you've got your fill-in-the-blank Peavy package. They're all the same, a young middle infielder, a young AAAA outfielder, and 2 pitching prospects/mlb ready arms. And trust me, as a Braves fan, I am very used to putting together Peavy trade packages. Maybe the Braves could get in on it by acquiring Matt Gamel and providing the 2 pitching prospects.

First off would Peavy waive his NTC to go to the Brewers? I think he would but being a Cubs fan living in Wisconsin I see a lot of Brewers games and ect. and I don't see the Brewers doing this. Their offer would blow the Cubs out of the water but why would the Brewers trade some of their best up and coming kids for a pitcher with a huge contract and might walk when he gets to free agency. I also think JJ would go before Escobar...that's just me I guess.
Melonis rex...I do think Brewers pitching is underrated but I think their is a lot of questions in their bullpen(especially how spring has gone for some of them) to be the favorites with Peavy. Not that the Cubs pen is made of gold but i'm just saying.

ps i dont think Peavy is a cub either

The first thing that I thought of when I read this was recently on a Cubs broadcast, Bob Brenly stated that players would start completely false Spring Training rumors by just saying some ridiculous trade in the locker room. Sounds like a fabrication by Bill Hall for a laugh.

Probably. Though he didn't even start a rumor, he just said his organization would be in on Peavy if he ever became available. Reporters love to overblow this type of thing.

For Melonis Rex and anyone else who may have forgotten, the Padres want at least:
1- a ML pitcher
2- a ML ready position player
3- a ML Ready pitcher
+ at least 1-2 more top level prospects

Peavy will not be cheap.

Any trade would START with Alcides Escobar and would also include a good young ML starter (Gallardo?) and a top pitching prospect like Jeffress.

Remember that the Padres turned down an offer from the Braves that included 2 ML ready pitchers and a ML SS and a top OF prospect.

Ok guys get your reading glasses on and grab a beer... The stuff below was posted by a Gunsnascar. I'm going to break them down one by one so this isn't a huge long post here we go...

melonis rex were you smoking crack before you said the brewers with peavy would be the favorite in the central?
Because the cubs are the favorites for sure in the central even with the brewers further depleating their farm 4 peavy.
remember last year sabathia cost them very very dearly for a 3 month rental from the farm.
peavy would not approve the trade to a loser heck the cardinals may even be ahead of the brewers come oct 1
peavy will be a cub or a padrae only

Posted by: gunsnascar | March 24, 2009 at 10:53 PM

I'm not saying the Brewers will be the favorites if they got Peavy, but how could one of your points be they depleted their farm system so they won't be. That has nothing to do with winning a division and if we go by that, the Brewers should finish higher then the Cubs since their farm system is alot better then the Cubs... even with the trade for Sabathia. They still have plenty to get Peavy and alot more then the Cubs have. I'm not saying the Cubs don't have enough to get him or won't trade for him. I'm just saying if you want to compare farm systems the Brewers is still alot better then the Cubs. While Peavy probably wouldn't approve a trade to a loser, he's probably going to be on a loser as it is. I still think what will end up happening is there will be a team (contender) that has a starter go down and will make a trade for Peavy, and I do think Peavy will approve it.

1 cubs 96 wins
2 astros 86 wins
3 cards 84 wins
4 brewers 83 wins
top 4 in the NL central in 09

Posted by: gunsnascar | March 24, 2009 at 11:03 PM

so dream on the cubs win the central by slightly less than last year 96 wins

Posted by: gunsnascar | March 24, 2009 at 11:40 PM

Before I go any further, is there any way I can get the winning lotto numbers for tomorrow? You seem like you know everything and can even see into the future. Also could you tell me what the White Sox record will be this year (I'm expecting some rant about how they suck and an insult of two thrown my way), I have season tickets, but if you're predicting anything less then 85 wins you can really help me out cause I'll start selling some of my games now instead of waiting

peavy will be a CUB if they want him and especially IF new pads owner want to move him 4 more futre prospects
OTHER THAN THAT PEAVYS NTC will veto any trade

Posted by: gunsnascar | March 24, 2009 at 11:39 PM

You're wrong
Actually on March 9th Peavy said he would approve a trade to the Red Sox when he was on MLB radio. While I have my doubts as to whether they, If the Brewers really are serious about Peavy and the Red Sox want to go after him... that would officially put the cubs third out of those teams in terms of the offer they could make...For anyone like me that believes the Brewers offer would blow the cubs offer out of the water...wait till you see what the red sox could offer... they have young starting pitching and plenty of it. Right now their #1 ranked prospect (Bucholz is not considered a prospect at this point by BA) is a 1B. If the Padres really wanted to go young, maximize their return, this would open the door for them to trade Adrian Gonzalez if they wished

the brewers gain nothing gaining peavy over hardy long term and short term

Posted by: gunsnascar | March 24, 2009 at 11:54 PM

I try to be respectful of everyone's opinion and also unbiased with mine regardless of which team it is about, but this is one of the stupidest things I've seen in here in awhile... Hardy is a ss, Peavy is a #1 pitcher... if you ask any GM in baseball, I guarentee you they would take the ace over the ss. This isn't based on a need basis (like we have alot of starting pitching and no other ss) it's just based on would you rather have an ace pitcher or ss who is a good player, but a I would say not even a top 10 ss in baseball..couple that with the brewers having a top ss prospect who is probably close to major league ready and it even sounds more dumb...

I still tend to think the Brewers won't go after Peavy, but who knows maybe you don't make the playoffs for 26 years and then make it again and decide you want to do whatever you can do to get back... I do believe Peavy wants to go to a winner, and he defitely makes the Brewers a viable contender if he is there along with Gallardo.. They still need to get their bullpen straightend out. The other thing Peavy would maybe think about is long term, the Brewers set up alot better then the Cubs... Most of the Brewers impact guys like Braun, Hart, Gallardo, and not close to FA while the cubs guys like soriano, lee, are older and may break down or their production may drop. I think that might've already happend with Lee, but I know he broke his wrist in 06 or 07 so maybe he has a chance to rebound if he's totally healthy

the brewers gain nothing gaining peavy over hardy long term and short term

Posted by: gunsnascar | March 24, 2009 at 11:54 PM

I try to be respectful of everyone's opinion and also unbiased with mine regardless of which team it is about, but this is one of the stupidest things I've seen in here in awhile... Hardy is a ss, Peavy is a #1 pitcher... if you ask any GM in baseball, I guarentee you they would take the ace over the ss. This isn't based on a need basis (like we have alot of starting pitching and no other ss) it's just based on would you rather have an ace pitcher or ss who is a good player, but a I would say not even a top 10 ss in baseball..couple that with the brewers having a top ss prospect who is probably close to major league ready and it even sounds more dumb...

I still tend to think the Brewers won't go after Peavy, but who knows maybe you don't make the playoffs for 26 years and then make it again and decide you want to do whatever you can do to get back... I do believe Peavy wants to go to a winner, and he defitely makes the Brewers a viable contender if he is there along with Gallardo.. They still need to get their bullpen straightend out. The other thing Peavy would maybe think about is long term, the Brewers set up alot better then the Cubs... Most of the Brewers impact guys like Braun, Hart, Gallardo,and many of the Brewers impact guys are younger and heading into their prime and not close to FA while the cubs guys like soriano, lee, are older and may break down or their production may drop. I think that might've already happend with Lee, but I know he broke his wrist in 06 or 07 so maybe he has a chance to rebound if he's totally healthy

As far as payroll questions, Peavey would draw a huge crowd like CC and probably make back his own cost.

As far as prospects, Gallardo, Parra and Jeffress are untouchable. Plus look at the package thrown together for CC. It didn't take that much prospect potential to get him and he's at the same level, maybe a little lower than Peavy.

I'd say Escobar, Odorizzi, Taylor Green and Cole Gillespie. In that you get a major league ready/close to prospect and clear up some future infield problems, a high end pitching prospect. Good all around 3b prospect with average project ability and good corner infielder for high end pitching. That covers when Giles leaves, future pitching and when the infield opens up.

"As far as prospects, Gallardo, Parra and Jeffress are untouchable. Plus look at the package thrown together for CC. It didn't take that much prospect potential to get him and he's at the same level, maybe a little lower than Peavy."

It would take considerably more to get Peavy than CC because the Padres have leverage the Indians didn't. If the Brewers don't meet their asking price the Padres can just keep letting him pitch for them. The Brewers paid for 2 months with CC, they would be paying for 3 years with Peavy. Who do you think would require more?

BrewCrewBlue...I agree with you on Roy Halladay. He will be on the Brewers list this summer. I also want to know about Jeffress? Correct me if im wrong but hasnt he had some issues off the field as well as struggled on the field at times. Yes I know he has a lot of talent but at this stage is he really good trade bait? Again I could be thinking of someone else. Also

the brewers gain nothing gaining peavy over hardy long term and short term

Posted by: gunsnascar | March 24, 2009 at 11:54 PM

I try to be respectful of everyone's opinion and also unbiased with mine regardless of which team it is about, but this is one of the stupidest things I've seen in here in awhile... Hardy is a ss, Peavy is a #1 pitcher... if you ask any GM in baseball, I guarentee you they would take the ace over the ss. This isn't based on a need basis (like we have alot of starting pitching and no other ss) it's just based on would you rather have an ace pitcher or ss who is a good player, but a I would say not even a top 10 ss in baseball..couple that with the brewers having a top ss prospect who is probably close to major league ready and it even sounds more dumb...

I still tend to think the Brewers won't go after Peavy, but who knows maybe you don't make the playoffs for 26 years and then make it again and decide you want to do whatever you can do to get back... I do believe Peavy wants to go to a winner, and he defitely makes the Brewers a viable contender if he is there along with Gallardo.. They still need to get their bullpen straightend out. The other thing Peavy would maybe think about is long term, the Brewers set up alot better then the Cubs... Most of the Brewers impact guys like Braun, Hart, Gallardo,and many of the Brewers impact guys are younger and heading into their prime and not close to FA while the cubs guys like soriano, lee, are older and may break down or their production may drop. I think that might've already happend with Lee, but I know he broke his wrist in 06 or 07 so maybe he has a chance to rebound if he's totally healthy

Posted by: xxgochisox09 | March 25, 2009 at 01:59 AM

....xxgochisox09, I hardly ever post, but your lack of understanding for baseball actually drove me to post, maybe to educate you and maybe to vent.

Jake Peavy is not as good as J.J. Hardy.

In 2007 and 2008 combined, one of these players was worth 9.4 wins and one was worth 9 wins, the latter being Peavy.

J.J. Hardy is projected to be worth ~5 wins next season at a much cheaper price than Peavy's ~3.5-4 win projection.

The only way you could argue for peavy is that he is controlled for more years, but he is so expensive in those years that he really isn't a highly advantageous contract to possess, and given aging and uncertainty it is more likely he becomes a bad contract than a good one.

Also, J.J. Hardy is easily a top 10 shortstop, do a little research.

And your claim that GMs prefer an ace to a SS is totally baseless. To your credit, Kenny Williams might agree, but 20+ GMs probably wouldn't.

"3. Any deal for Peavy will come either at the deadline this year or next offseason.
4. Pitching, Pitching and more pitching is the target. With at least one of the arms rated as possible top of the rotation.
5. The Padres will want players then can control for 5+ years.
6. Possible other targets include Middle Infielders and a CF."

That sounds right. Also, I really think that with the new ownership coming in Peavy is a piece they'll look to keep and build around. It will definitely have to take something pretty significant to make them reconsider.

Finally, after the departure of Trevor Hoffman (which was a blow for a lot of fans), I'm pretty sure trading Peavy is really the last thing they want to do as far as attendance is concerned.

You're already looking at a team that is rebuilding and headed for a 4th place finish at best in a weak division, all of this in a weak economy, and you're going to get rid of the only player likely to attract crowds? I don't think it's something they'll consider at the start of the season. If they're 20 games behind at the deadline and attendance is low anyways, they may, but even then it's unlikely.

Let's not shy away from the truth here folks. The Cubs have EVEN LESS to trade for Peavy now than they did 3 months age. With busts like Cedano, Hill, and Pie gone, the Pads are not going to go scrounging around for A level or B-prospects for an ace. Aside from Vitters, the Cubs have NOTHING of value.

"It would take the Jays moving the contracts of Vernon Wells, Scott Rolen AND Rios before they decided to even THINK about needing to move Halladay who, once again, is NOT a free agent at the end of the year."

Except Rolen and Wells are unmovable at this point and I'm not sure they'd deal Rios before Halladay.

"Let's not shy away from the truth here folks. The Cubs have EVEN LESS to trade for Peavy now than they did 3 months age. With busts like Cedano, Hill, and Pie gone, the Pads are not going to go scrounging around for A level or B-prospects for an ace. Aside from Vitters, the Cubs have NOTHING of value."

Hahaha. What a surprise to see the usual troll enter a Peavy thread.

(Cedeno)

"Brewers are the 2nd best team in the NL Central already.

They lost 2 'aces' but they got Gallardo healthy again and added Looper. They are still an 85 win team or so.

The Astros will be lucky to be .500 assuming everything goes right, their rotation is miserable."

Maybe...but Looper and Yovani is not CC and Sheets(or even close to it). The Brewers also lost some key guys off the bench and out of their bullpen which people seem to forget.

Last I checked there are six teams in the central...well five I guess. Not just the Cubs Brewers and Stros. The Cards are looking as healty as they have been in a few years and picked up sound pleayer in Khalil Green. Not to mention that guy they got over at first base is pretty good. The Reds have a very good pitching and could have something to say about who wins the division.

..xxgochisox09, I hardly ever post, but your lack of understanding for baseball actually drove me to post, maybe to educate you and maybe to vent.

Jake Peavy is not as good as J.J. Hardy.

In 2007 and 2008 combined, one of these players was worth 9.4 wins and one was worth 9 wins, the latter being Peavy.

J.J. Hardy is projected to be worth ~5 wins next season at a much cheaper price than Peavy's ~3.5-4 win projection.

The only way you could argue for peavy is that he is controlled for more years, but he is so expensive in those years that he really isn't a highly advantageous contract to possess, and given aging and uncertainty it is more likely he becomes a bad contract than a good one.

Also, J.J. Hardy is easily a top 10 shortstop, do a little research.

And your claim that GMs prefer an ace to a SS is totally baseless. To your credit, Kenny Williams might agree, but 20+ GMs probably wouldn't.

Posted by: ChadGod | March 25, 2009 at 03:28 AM

Chadgod,

Thanks I appreciate the free education, but I think I'll stick to what I said about most GM's preferring an ace to a ss. I'm not big on that plus wins type thing that stat guys do. I think it leaves out important things like how good the team a player is on, and whether or not he was injured. A great example would be a guy like Jake Peavy actually who fits both those categories.

You said based on 2007-2008 stats for the wins thing Hardy had more (although it was .4 more) and Hardy projects to have more then Peavy. That may be true, but doesn't come close telling the whole story.

Jake Peavy's average ERA the last 2 years is 2.69. His average wins is 15, but that is greatly misleading by 19 in 2007 and 10 last year. I think most people would agree the 09 Padres probably will be closer to last year then 07. Peavy's ERA last year was 2.85. If you put that on any decent team like the Brewers or the cubs who are certainly more then a decent team and have one of the best offenses in baseball I think Peavy easily would win another 2-3 games at least. Being the great baseball mind you are, I know you may come back with the home/road split argument for peavy and not being in Petco anymore so i saved you a little time and checked it out myself. His average road ERA is 3.43 not quite as good but certainly more then good enough to still win tons of games especially coupled with a better team. This argument alone would probably give Peavy that extra .5 needed to pass Hardy, but I'll give you another.

Injury... Last year J.J. Hardy played 146 games and in 2007, 151 ,which is a ton even for a starter. Last year Jake Peavy only made 27 starts compared to his normal 30-32. Even on a bad San Diego team I tend to believe Peavy would've won another game or two with the the extra starts. I think combining those two factors would easily put Peavy ahead of Hardy on the wins thing in the past and this year. (which like I said I dont like, but am using it just for my argument here)

I may have been wrong when I said J.J. Hardy wasn't a top 10 ss. Maybe the better word to use was arguably a top 10.

Here are the guys I think noone could argue are better then Hardy: Jeter, Hanley Ramirez, Jose Reyes, Rollins, and Furcal (before I get the argument about Furcal having 8 SB last year, lets please remember he was hurt from basically July till playoffs)

If it was me personally I also would take those 6 guys above and these guys over Hardy: Stephen Drew, Tulowitzki, Peralta, Tejada,

I think you also could debate Jed Lowrie and possibly Alexi Ramirez, but I think with Ramirez it's a little early since he only has had one good year and I'd like to see how he is defensively first, although he did play it in cuba very well supposedly, but still I think you have to wait to see in the majors.

xxgochisox09,

Hardy is better than Jeter.

xxgochisox09,

Hardy is better than Jeter.

Posted by: Outlander | March 25, 2009 at 10:27 AM

If you're one of those people that just loves to see the longball youre right.

Unfortunately baseball is alot more then that... Jeter blows Hardy away in avg, OBP, had more runs scored, is better in fielding percentage, and only had 5 less RBI's then Hardy being primarily a table setter and not a run producer like Hardy is...

Class is dismissed

xxgochisox...Your right on the long ball statement. JJ hits more hr, doubles, and ect. With that comes more k's but look at the team hes on. Same as your Sox...they get into that mode once in a while where it's hr or k. Fileding % goes in jeters way because JJ can get to a ball in the hole and takes a chance to get him. I watched alot of Brewer games last year and most of his errors came on throws from the hole. Jeter can't make those throws which we all saw in the WBC this year.

Boom Roasted!!!!

"Unfortunately baseball is alot more then that... Jeter blows Hardy away in avg, OBP, had more runs scored, is better in fielding percentage, and only had 5 less RBI's then Hardy being primarily a table setter and not a run producer like Hardy is...

Class is dismissed"

I just saw someone "dismiss class" based on fielding percentage and RBIs???

Hahahaha...thats hilarious.

According to Bill James, someone who uses REAL research to measure defense, Jeter was a -12 at shortstop, which happened to be really good for him the last few years, and Hardy was a whopping +19. Anyone who has a clue what they are talking about will tell you Jeter isn't good on Defense, and Hardy is excellent.

Jeter had an OPS+ of 102 last year. Hardy? 113.

So we have established here that Hardy is the better offensive player, and FAR superior on defense.

Any questions? Now the class is dismissed.

Posted by: Aduncaroo | March 25, 2009 at 10:57 AM

Aduncaroo,

Well actually class was more dismissed on the avg and obp part, thats why I listed them first. But you do your research better then me with the Bill James stuff. I more am a stat guy when it comes to offense and the eye test. So I guess you probably have shown me Jeter isn't better then Hardy or maybe belongs in the debateable category.. and I think I've shown you that isn't laughable to take Peralta over hardy... let's see who gets the tiebreaker

xxgochisox...Your right on the long ball statement. JJ hits more hr, doubles, and ect. With that comes more k's but look at the team hes on. Same as your Sox...they get into that mode once in a while where it's hr or k. Fileding % goes in jeters way because JJ can get to a ball in the hole and takes a chance to get him. I watched alot of Brewer games last year and most of his errors came on throws from the hole. Jeter can't make those throws which we all saw in the WBC this year.

Posted by: cubbieblue | March 25, 2009 at 10:51 AM

Cubbie,

yeah youre right about the sox.. assuming Fields comes back to his 2007 stats when he filled in for Crede the whole year, and the other guys come close to what they did last year...this white sox team will be one of the most prolific home run hitting teams, prolific strikeout team, and absolutely attrocious defensively...

Either typepad is having issues or you are talking to yourself...

Aduncaroo,

I've read alot of your posts on here and you are a very knowledgeable baseball fan. I'd like to think I am too, but will also admit when it comes to these new things like calculating plus/minus fielding, the plus/minus wins thing, and the whole OPS I'm not terribly in tune with it.

I know what OPS stands for, I know how they calculate it... but I guess I don't know scale of the numbers.. for example when you listed

Hardy OPS- 113
Peralta OPS - 108... How big a difference is that exactly? I just see it as a difference of 5 and seems like it's pretty close based on that

Its definitely not a big difference. Thats why I said JJ was a little better offensively and worlds better defensively.

OPS+, I believe, is calculated by taking the average OPS of every hitter in that league, then saying what percentage the player is bettet than that. So, if Hardy was a 113, that would mean he was 13% better than the average hitter in the NL. Peralta was 8% better than the average hitter in the AL.

Anyone, if I am wrong on this, please correct me.

Theriot actually rates better than most give him credit for. He was a +6 in 2008 and a +5 in 2007. For what its worth, he was -2 at SS in 2006.

Neither of these stats are the end all be all, but OPS+ is a great tool to evaluate the player against every other hitter in their league, and to have a SS that is around 110 is really good for both teams. Its defensively that Hardy sets himself apart from almost all of the other SSs that can match his offensive production.

The reason why runs and RBIs are not good stats to use is because they aren't individually dependent. They have a lot to do with the players hitting behind you, which isn't fair to the player you are trying to measure or compare them to. OPS is one of the better ways to measure the individuals performance on what he actually controls. Same goes for wins when measuring pitching.

By the way, I like Derek Jeter, I just think its about time they think about moving him. He just doens't have the range to play SS...and hasn't for awhile. Offensively, he is a good player to have because the guy always gets on base. I expect a bit of a bounce back year from him at the plate, but his defensive numbers are never even going to be average.

It would take considerably more to get Peavy than CC because the Padres have leverage the Indians didn't. If the Brewers don't meet their asking price the Padres can just keep letting him pitch for them. The Brewers paid for 2 months with CC, they would be paying for 3 years with Peavy. Who do you think would require more?

Posted by: GScott | March 25, 2009 at 03:00 AM

If you knew anything about the prospects that I listed there you'd see that project ability wise they are a lot better than the ones the Brewers gave to the Indians. There are three potentially elite players and a solid 3b man. Projections don't mean crap, but in a trade like this, projections is all you're taking

Actually, I live in St. Louis, but I used to live in Chicago and the quad cities when I was a kid.

John D is a semi-frequent guest of Murph on the score, so you are absolutely right about that. I listen on the website, but usually only during the season. He writes the Fielding Bible as well.

Peavy wouldn't accept a trade to the Brewers. He gave his 5 teams.

As for Halladay, the Jays won't trade him.