Nady's Season Over

The NY Post is reporting he will have TJ and is done for the season.

Espn has him listed as out for the season also.

"Acquiring Swisher for table scraps is easily the best move by any team this offseason.

Pure genius by Cashman. Or luck.

Posted by: melonis rex | June 26, 2009 at 06:18 PM"

It has to be luck, every Sox fan has nothing nice to say about Swish..

KW most likely had Ozzie tell him to get his ass out of there.

I wanna know how many GMs were aware of his availability.

I honestly think Pierre plus some okay prospects would of got Mo' Swisher

"It has to be luck, every Sox fan has nothing nice to say about Swish.."

Except that it was widely, widely predicted that he would make a comeback. It was in the stats. You don't mash for years in the biggest pitchers' park in the AL and then suddenly fall off.

Posted by: melonis rex | June 26, 2009 at 06:25 PM

Trust me I agree with you.

His ability to take walks makes him valuable. His ability to play the entire outfield and first base makes him even more valuable.

Swisher is a player you really have to see to appreciate. I'm not a fan of low bat avg, high strikeout guys, but for THIS team, he's been a good addition. If he can end somewhere around .260/.380 25 hrs and 80-100 walks while playing decent defense in RF (no more dropping flyballs or belly flopping balls 2 fett in front of him) then his year would be a success.

As for Nady, I think the Yanks should consider bringing up Shelly Duncan. He can play LF/RF, can be an emergency fill in at 1B and can platton or spell Matsui on occasion versus righties. I know it's AAA but with a line like .290/.367 21 hrs I would at least give him a shot to come off the bench before I start trading resources to add depth to the bench.

This is why the idea that they could trade Nady never made any sense because there would have always been a susceptibility to a further (and a more serious) injury.

I think Shelley Duncan is probably a AAAA player, but they might as well give him a shot.

As for Swisher, his "disease" was the length of his contract, which few teams were willing to assume during a financial crisis.

As for Nady, that is a tough break. Does anyone know the consensus on how long a position player needs to be out to recover from Tommy John? I know it is 12-18 months for a pitcher.

I wonder....can a hitter with an injury like Nady's still contribute as a DH only?

It's his second TJ surgery. Couldn't come at a worse time for him with free agency on the horizon.

Nyyankss27

I can only assume that extra "s" in your name stands for sucks. Does it bother you that you won't see the Yankees win #27 in your lifetime?

A guy from LA calling someone a tool? Oh the humanity.

Well at least you have something going for you.

"PS-Does anyone think the Milton Bradley situation is at all salvageable?"

If he can get on the field and play like the Milton Bradley of before, all will be vindicated.

Although that option is going to be interesting to watch. He only has to play 75 games (I don't know if its appeared in or started in), and he's appeared in 55, started 45 already.

"PS-Does anyone think the Milton Bradley situation is at all salvageable?"

If he can get on the field and play like the Milton Bradley of before, all will be vindicated.

Although that option is going to be interesting to watch. He only has to play 75 games (I don't know if its appeared in or started in), and he's appeared in 55, started 45 already.

Posted by: melonis rex | June 26, 2009 at 07:58 PM

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I don't know....he's in Pinella's dog house now. Never heard a manager air out a player in the media like he did. He seemed not at all tolerant of Bradley anymore.

"Nyyankss27

I can only assume that extra "s" in your name stands for sucks. Does it bother you that you won't see the Yankees win #27 in your lifetime?"
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Im not going to let myself get caught up with your crap but im just curious to know what your favorite team is

The bullpen has settled and unless Cash plans on adding another RP thru a trade then I don't see any reason to keep up 7 bullpen guys, especially if only 1 of them is a lefty. Coke is the lefty guy, Aceves can come in early in the game and get you to the 7th inning. Hughes and RObertson can pitch 7th and 8th and of course Mo closes. I guess Tomko is used if we're being blown out but that's about it, if you're conceeding the game and just don't want to waste a pitcher?

"5 SP-CC, AJ, Pet, Wang and Joba

6 RP-Mo, Coke (L), Robertson, Bruney, Aceves (long), Hughes

9 Starters-Tex, Cano, Jeter, Arod, Posada, Damon, Cabrera, Swisher and Matsui
5 Bench-Cervelli, Gardner, Pena, Ransom and **Nady**

DFA Tomko and use Aceves as the long guy. If he can hit then Nady could take his place. If not then call up Duncan."
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But once damaso marte is able to pitch again they cant hide him beacuse they have 3 years 12 million commited to him and then you have to make a hard decision on who to send down or DFA

Nady + Marte for Tabata + Ohlendorf + Karstens + D. McCutchen

Wait...who got the better end of this trade...?

Right.

Posted by: xlazox | June 26, 2009 at 10:25 PM
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Ummmm.....I guess the trade looks good if the two players that one side acquired have been hurt this year. Last year Nady and Marte each served an important role in the Yanks staying in the hunt while Matsui, Posada and Bruney were hurt. However...maybe I'm missing something. Karstens and Ohlendorf were guys that absolutely would be in AAA if they remained with the Yanks as there was no way they would've cracked the rotation and would've been behind Hughes, UPK and Aceves in the depth chart in the minors. Collectively, in 9-10 w/ a 4.80 ERA w/ 51 walks, 70 ko in 155 IP......in the NL Central. Not exactly setting the world on fire and certainly not anything the Yanks are missing. Meanwhile, McCurchen is a 26 yr old AAA pitcher who's 5-5 w/ a 4.34 ERA and Tabata, who still has youth on his side to improve, is .270/.350 in AA w/ 1 hr in 100 at bats. It says a lot about the expectations of a Pirate fan if you're excited about that.

Nyyankss27

I can only assume that extra "s" in your name stands for sucks. Does it bother you that you won't see the Yankees win #27 in your lifetime?

Posted by: fitz | June 26, 2009 at 07:29 PM

Lame...but I am also curious who your team is.

Is Austin Jackson ready to come up yet? :D

Well it's sort of a moot point now. Nady is having surgery. However, the Yanks don't have a problem hiding expensive players in AAA if they don't fit (see Igawa). If the 5 pen guys (Coke, Robertson, Bruney, Hughes and Robertson) are healthy and effective then don't expect the decision to activate and insert Marte into the Yanks pen to be dictated by how much he makes. If anything they would probably demote Tomko (not sure if he has to clear wavers or not) and go with 7 bullpen guys. Seems sort of a waste of a spot when we could use a bat off the bench. As I said, if not Nady then why not Duncan?
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im guessing one of those robertsons were probably aceves so thats 5 but the only reason the yankees can hide igawa in AAA is because he was considered a rookie and from your first 3 years in the majors and depending on your service time you may be called up and down as many times as you wish marte on the other hand been in the majors long enough and would have to be place on waivers where he could be picked up for nothing

Sorry. Mo plus Hughes, Coke, RObertson, Aceves and Bruney. Any team that claims Marte would have to pay the remainder of his contract.....I doubt that's going to happen considering his health and effectiveness issues. That being the case he can absolutely be hidden in AAA until needed.
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But you would need martes consent to pitch in the minors and if hes healthy you know he wont accept a minor league assignment which would force the yankees hand at some point

The problem w/ Shelley is that he isnt on the 40 so they would need to designate some1 for assignment. Also the Yanks shouldn't have gotten rid of Dan Guise...he was a solid reliever/spot starter. Any1 else think this is the Yankees chance to get Nady long term for a very cheap price, no 1 is gotta want to risk it and give him a contract so y not try it.

When healthy Marte was a great lefthader reliever that threw in the mid 90's. Those guys don't grow on trees. I don't get Tomkout....the guy can throw pretty hard but can't seem to close hitters out on 2 strike counts. Batters are hitting over .300/.370 in those counts and less than 3 balls.

As for Duncan they can just DFA Tomko and go w/ 6 relief pitchers rather than 7 (Mo, Coke, Robertson, Hughes, Aceves and Bruney).

Bug spray.....that was the diiference between oba beeing succesfull and not being succesfull. :) Who knows what Marte will do for you when he comes back. I tell you, if Coke, Aceves, Hughes and Robertson continue to post the numbers they have thus far (combined 2.49 ERA, 92 IP, 31 bb, 92 strike outs) then it would be very hard to defend a demotion of any of them. If anything they might DFA Tomko and insert Marte and go with the superfluous relief pitcher versus a much needed bat on the bench (Duncan). If we make the playoffs the extra bat off the bench might prove more valueable.

Great talking to you though.

"Bug spray.....that was the diiference between oba beeing succesfull and not being succesfull. :) Who knows what Marte will do for you when he comes back. I tell you, if Coke, Aceves, Hughes and Robertson continue to post the numbers they have thus far (combined 2.49 ERA, 92 IP, 31 bb, 92 strike outs) then it would be very hard to defend a demotion of any of them. If anything they might DFA Tomko and insert Marte and go with the superfluous relief pitcher versus a much needed bat on the bench (Duncan). If we make the playoffs the extra bat off the bench might prove more valueable.

Great talking to you though."
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But maybe the yankees should use the option they have left on ramiro pena and let him continue to play everyday in the minor leagues because he could be the future successor to derek jeter and in this stint in the majors he gets a taste of the big leagues and will try and thrive throughout AA and AAA