Olney On Glavine, Dunn, Penny

Dunn on Boston would be slick. He could step in as the new full time DH in bean town if they extend him and buy out Ortiz.

I know Boston fans love Papi but it looks to me like he is running out of steam and focus.

Its time for new blood in my opinion. Dunn would be a good call.

Oh, and by the way, here's to the Mariners and Padres passing on Ackley! Cot damn that would be a wonderful way to start the summer.

So, if the M's pass on Ackley. Does that mean they go after Crow or a different position player.

Getting Zimm from the Nationals would be like getting McLouth from the Bucs....oh...wait. I guess the face of your franchise is not safe these days.

Highly doubtful Donald alone gets you Bucholz. But I'm right with you when it comes to NOT settling for Penny.

And Brad Penny is a product of the Boston Hype Machine.

"Getting Zimm from the Nationals would be like getting McLouth from the Bucs....oh...wait. I guess the face of your franchise is not safe these days."

Zimmerman is a MUCH better player than McLouth though.

"I still can't understand how the Red Sox front office thinks that they will be able to acquire high end prospects for Brad Penny. No harm in shooting for the moon, I suppose, but I'd be shocked if they received anything beyond a mid-tier prospect for him."

Jason Donald isn't shooting for the moon. Donald IS a mid-tier prospect. He put up good numbers in single and double A, but he's projected as a utility guy. Average power, slightly above average speed, mediocre range and arm strength. He's a potential AAAA player who may or may not actually end up being any better than Jed Lowrie.

I would be very excited to have him on the club starting out next year in LF batting in the #2 hole behind Ichiro. If the M's take a arm it better be someone with a clean health record...otherwise it is Tate or Ackley hands down.

Penny and someone else for Dunn will not happen. The Nats want good prospects, not crappy overpaid has-beens.

Penny for Donald makes no sense to me. He has less upside than Lowry and projects as a utility guy. Sox should look into adding a B prospect w/Penny to get the overated Carrasco from Philly!

Buster Olney "hears buzz."

Regardless of whatever that means, the M's are taking a bat at #2 and Dustin Ackley is clearly the best.

I'm sure Buster Olney "hears buzz" about the Nationals passing on Strasburg as well

Absolutely ridiculous post. I understand you are a Sox fan, but you can't possibly think Penny is good. Regardless of what you think of Carrasco, if he goes anywhere, it will be for a legitimate #1 or 2.

Posted by: jman1984 | June 04, 2009 at 01:59 PM

you are kiddin "but you cant possibly think PENNY is good." HE IS 5-1 I DONT CARE HOW MUCH RUN SUPPORT HE GETS HE IS GOOD OH AND Obsessions,

there is no such thing as AAAA

AAAA is a common term for a guy who does well in AAA but languishes there because they're really not good enough to consistently hold down a job in the bigs. Since you seem to be a bit of a homer, I'll name some Red Sox AAAA guys:

Gil Velasquez, Charlie Zink, Jonathan Van Every. Those guys are the definition of AAAA.

On Adam Dunn..

Yes, Boston dearly needs a replacement bat for Ortiz. it is high time and Boston does have an abundance of BP arms on the big league roster, as well as waiting at AAA level with retreads that they have converted to the relief role that are taking off exceptionally well in Fernando Cabrera, Hunter Jones, Rocky Cherry and even Marcus McBeth. All have MLB experience and all are haveing outstanding years for the PawSox in relief and could be called up to give the Nationals the controlable closer that they DEARLY need in Delcarmen, as well as 21 year old starting pitcher prospect Felix Doubront at AA that is also having an excellent year.

Penny for Donald makes no sense to me. He has less upside than Lowry and projects as a utility guy. Sox should look into adding a B prospect w/Penny to get the overated Carrasco from Philly!

Posted by: RED SOX DYNASTY! | June 04, 2009 at 01:39 PM

alright that's just really really DUMB. If Carrasco is SO overrated then why do you want him? No deal. If Carrasco goes it will be with a Donald type for a good pitcher like Bedard or Peavy not for an old scrub like Penny. Sox fans need to remember we destroyed Penny last year when we played against him. It was like batting practice. Penny we don't need. Now if you wanted to have us throw in Carrasco you should give up one of your top pitching prospects. Say:

Donald, Marson Carrasco

for:

Bucholz.

that deal I'd do.

Lester and Beckett have both came back around the last 3-4 starts, not to mention, the Sox have rotation depth at the ML level, as well as a "problem" at any moment when Smoltz is activated as to whose spot he will take in the current rotation PhilsWSchamps.

Rotation, as well as pitching in general is the least of the Red Sox worries as the team ERA has been steadily dropping since early May.

I would love to see the Sox-Phils in a WS.. My 2 fav teams from years ago when Scmitty, Luzinski, Carlton, Ron reed, McCarver, McBride etc.. were on them. No bother here :-)

Lester has had the bad inning problem, but that's fine, look at his other stats and you will see no problems and the Sox have not either, just like his last start, a win with 13 K's. Dice K came back from the WBC with a bad arm and has made 2 starts since coming back from the DL, not really fair to judge him, but he let up 1 run in his last tight rope win, that is the same way he went 18-3 last year and Sox fans are pretty much used to him stranding guys all over the bases if he can manage games like he did his last performance.

I agree on Penny, if the Phillies can get a top guy like Bedard, Oswalt, or talk Peavy into coming to Philly, it would be awesome. BUT! I would not think that the Phillies should give up the farm to get it done. The Mets (I don't think at least) have it pitching wise either to get it done and the Phillie bats look better from the games have seen.

Maybe Hammel can get his arm strength back and Moyer.. Well, he is bound to get his location back, the guy vs the Fish I watched was throwing the same "junk" as always, just was throwing it over the heart of the plate way too often and imagine he has been doing this to other teams also.

Only get Penny from Boston if the Sox sell low, like to clear a roster spot for Smoltz, Bucholz, Bowden etc.. I don't see them doing that however, but do see some desperate team like brewers, mets etc.. actually giving up at least a B+ *somebody* prospect for him.

johns,

they don't make afros like Shake and Bake's anymore!! That team was great and Michael Jack was my favorite.

Moyer I've always contended will be fine. He's been a nibbler forever now and if he gets his calls on the outside corners he'll do fine. He hasn't gotten them this year which is why he's struggled. He'll be fine. I'd expect he'll end up with 10-13 wins and an ERA around 4.5 I can live with that.

I've said the same that we shouldn't trade a finally strong farm system unless its for serious impact. Drabek has surpassed Carrasco (who actually had a solid outing tonight) Carlos' stats have been bad this year because for some reason the LHV manager doesn't realize when he's tiring and leaves him in. He shut out Indianapolis tonight for example through 5 and then gave up a run in the 6th and one in the 7th before being lifted. He's only 22 so there's no reason to rush him. With the development too of Brown and Taylor they are two outfielders who have 5 tool ability and are currently both around a 1.000 OPS. I'll keep them and take my chances with the kids getting it done.

Hammels looked totally awesome vs LAD tonight, hopefully this will kill some of the "give up the farm" talk for Oswalt/Bedard/Peavy talk now and Moyer will work on his finese now, or some kind of trade for a #5, or maybe Byrd/Glavine picked up later on if the Phills still want rotation depth.

"they don't make afros like Shake and Bake's anymore!! That team was great and Michael Jack was my favorite."

Isn't that the truth! Tommy Hutton, who you am sure also remember from those old Phillie teams, is the Fish color guy on TV and harks back to the old glory days that I also remember quite well and I love it with old stories and antics that went on.

Yo! Penny has been pitching himself back into shape and looks more like Penny of old
after each outing. Lets not forget Brad won 16 games in both 2006 & 2007. Likewise, he is only 31.

This writer wouldn't be surprised to see Theo keep Penny and have him stay in the rotation for the remainder of the season. Experience counts down the stretch, especially if TEE is the opposition. They, TEE, have a few potent bats.

If Papi breaks out by hitting some dingers and Lowerie returns to form, any talk about adding to the Red Sox roster from outside their organization will be just that, talk, wishful thinking...IMHO...

Lets trade Encarnacion, Soto, and Bailey for Zimmerman.