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All-Star Acquisitions

As you probably heard, the All-Star lineups were announced today. Whether you consider the lineups fair or flawed, a sizeable portion of the talent pool was acquired just this past offseason and will be heading to St. Louis for the festivities next week. Just for fun, let's run through a list of these players--let me know if I missed anyone:

AL

SP Edwin Jackson, Tigers - Acquired Dec. 10, 2008, from Rays for OF Matt Joyce.
RP Brian Fuentes, Angels - Signed Dec. 31, 2008, to 2-year deal worth $17.5MM.
1B Mark Teixeira, Yankees - Signed Dec. 23, 2008, to 8-year deal worth $180MM.

NL

OF Raul Ibanez, Phillies - Signed Dec. 16, 2008, to 3-year deal worth $31.5MM.
2B Orlando Hudson, Dodgers - Signed Feb. 20, 2009, to 1-year deal worth $3.4MM plus incentives.
SP Jason Marquis, Rockies - Acquired Jan. 6, 2009, from Cubs for RP Luis Vizcaino.
RP Francisco Rodriguez, Mets - Signed Dec. 10, 2008, to 3-year deal worth $37MM.


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It's funny to look back at the comments and read all of the negative reviews of some of these deals.

Armchair GMs...

I watched Marquis' 86 pitch dimantling of the best team in baseball a few days ago. It's funny really puts into presepective just how bad the Cubs offseason was. They traded DeRosa for pretty mmuch nothing then he gets the Indians a much betetr return. They trade All-star Marquis to the Rockies for a guy they released like a week later as they continue to have SP problems and they sign Milton Bradley to a 3 year deal over the likes of Dunn and Abreu and he has just been awful.

That's bad no matter how oyu look at it.

I dont think the Marquis trade was bad. at all.

He hadn't shown any of this talent with the Cubs really, and it was more of a salary dump than anything. Besides, there would be no spot for him in the rotation anyway.

"as they continue to have SP problems"

Um the cubs have the #6 ERA in all of baseball. And are top 5 for starting pitching ERA. Not quite sure outside of Rich Harden whos been a "problem". Id rather have Randy Wells who makes nothing instead of Marquis for $10 million. But thats just my opinion.

Cubs pitching staff is also #6 in K's and 3rd in BAA.

And sorry to keep going but they have the most Quality Starts in all of baseball. Why Hendry Why!!!! Why trade Marquis!!!!

Mark Teixeira starting at 1B. Odd.

The Edwin Jackson trade has looked horrible for the Rays. Mark Texiera has had a good season, but i must say Justin Morneau should start 1B. Theres no doubt about that. Aaron Hill should be starting over Pedroia. Hamilton shouldnt be in it. Bartlett should have started but he was injured for a while.Ryan Howard shouldnt be in the game. Lots of things are wrong this year.

I'm not convinced that Hudson deserves to be there.

All Star voting really showed just how many Yankees and Red Sox fans there are. I mean, Youkilis shouldn't have had 3 million votes. And neither Teixeira or Youk should be starting over Morneau..

I really think writers shuld vote for who plays. At least it will be fair.

Guys from lower markets who should be starting arent.

It's funny looking in hind-sight at how trades all ways even out. The Tigers were robbed on the Edgar Renteria trade, giving up one of the five best young pitchers and a key piece of the Nate McClouth trade and then they take the Rays getting an All-Star for a bench rider.

"he Tigers were robbed on the Edgar Renteria trade, giving up one of the five best young pitchers and a key piece of the Nate McClouth trade and then they take the Rays getting an All-Star for a bench rider."

Waay too early to tell on Joyce/Jackson.

Jackson could be having a career year, since he's never put up numbers this good. Joyce is still really young.

I know this arguement will be turned around on me and someone will point out that Wakefield is basically getting a spot the same way... but is anyone else suprised by the inclusion of Marquis? Sure, he's leading the NL in wins, but unless they're injured Gallardo, Duke, and Wainwright are all better choices.

Can someone please explain how Ben Zobrist isn't starting?

"Can someone please explain how Ben Zobrist isn't starting?"

Because he doesnt play in Boston or New York.

Tampa still has one of the smaller fan bases as why, Zobrist deserves the nod though. I was thinking about something, analysts always talk about how the fans make bad choices and granted sometimes we do because we vote for the likeable or hometown guy *cough cough, Yadier Molina, cough cough*, but the players make bad choices also. Someone make a case for Orlando Hudson over Chase Utley.

and the managers make bad choices too, see Howard, Ryan. Its a bad choices for acouple reason, the biggest being he is the fourth 1B.

On Zobrist not starting:

"Because he doesnt play in Boston or New York."

Gotta love that coming from a Cubbies fan. LoL.

It'd be nice if there was a committee that actually understood baseball stats (FIP, BABIP, etc.) that could select the AS teams. Most fans either look at the name or just the BA, and in pitchers cases, the wins (Wins - the most useless stat to judge a pitcher).

"Most fans either look at the name or just the BA, and in pitchers cases, the wins (Wins - the most useless stat to judge a pitcher)."

Fans don't select pitchers, and the pitcher selections were...entertaining, to say the least.

Wakefield and Marquis and Fuentes are downright stupid selections. But that happens every year.

Can we make something clear, re: Fuentes. You play for the Angels, you will get a lot of saves because of Scioscia's style of ball (nothing against their style of ball, just that its conducive to save opps)

Hell Damon was more deserving than Hamilton..

Oh, I know Melonis. I was stating that part more as fans will look at a pitcher (not so much for an ASG) and say he is good.

"Gotta love that coming from a Cubbies fan. LoL."

Cubs have one starter. And thats only because they have to. After Soriano slowed down (which seems like $100 million ago) he stopped getting votes. While the cubs had 8 players on the roster last year, all except Kosuke can be justified. And Kosuke was more the overseas vote.

Most fans are homers. The Yankees and Sox just get the most votes because they have the biggest fan bases.

Yeah Hamilton is horrible, but at least since he is on the team we get to possibly see him in the derby.

Why doesn't anyone give credit to edwin jackson to say he may be proven

I might be classified as a "fan", but I think this has gone waaaay too far with fan voting. I'd like to see kind of a reverse than what is done now; the players/managers/coaches all vote on the starters. However, the fan vote determines the bench, after the fact. I got enough proof when looking at the loony MLB.com boards. Outdated stats like BA and RBI were everywhere, not to mention the number of votes for people like Yadier Molina. I highly respect Cardinal fans, but, geez. That's pathetic. Finally, the far-too-large number of Yankees and Red Sox getting votes, because, they are, well, Yankees and Red Sox. I like Pedroia, since he's small like myself. His numbers, however, ARE NOT all-star worthy. If he played for, say, the White Sox, there's no way he'd get in. I think everyone shares the same view about "Making the All-Star Game count", so I won't get into that.

I want to say this NOW. Nothing against small market teams; in fact the team I respect the most is small market; the A's. I LOATHE the "one player from every team" rule. This is dumb! It blocks players who should be in the game at home.

Wakefield, nothing against him as a person, is not worthy. I live in the New England (Red Sox) market. The RSN, NESN, believed Wakefield should have been STARTING the All-Star game. I don't feel NESN is that much of a homer station for baseball, but this is absurd. Can we tell these people to get with the program? They're getting paid around the major-league minimum, where I could do better job; it's infurating. I'm camera-friendly, too. For a station owned by the Red Sox, who have BILL JAMES at their disposal, I feel like I'm still watching a telecast of the 90's. The most advanced stat I've heard there is OPS, once. On the actual telecast, it's only BA/HR/RBI. OBP is shown, but never, ever mentioned. Bill James knows, because he's told me so, an RBI beats a walk anyday, in terms of value of the stat.

Let's look at the pitchers melonis picked, all manager picked

Marquis- a ho-hum 4.19 FIP, and a ERA+ of 117, where the recently DFA'd Matt Herges has better numbers on both stats.

Fuentes, while not horrible, is not all-star worthy. If he got voted this year, he most certainly should have been last year, with a FORTY point decrease in ERA+, and up a run in FIP this year.

Wakefield- His BABIP is up 40 points (.247 to .287), but his FIP is down 4/10 of a point (4.84 to 4.34). A player with a FIP of over 4 should not be playing in the ASG. Finally, his ERA+ is a very ordinary 108.

Well, maybe the managers fon't know what they are doing. Let's have the sabermetric tables vote! That's my opinion.

Oh, yeah forgot about the Youk/Teix/Morneau arguement. I like using OPS+, which makes the OPS park-adjusted.

Morneau (my prediction for the best option): 164, career high.

Teixera: 145, typically around his average, more or less.

Youkilis: 154, career high. His OPS+ has increased every year from 2006, as one might expect.

Your winner? Justin Morneau. Once again, the majority of fans were wrong.

One last thing. I don't vote, since my contributions mean nothing. I can vote for the guy I know is better, but the biggr market guy will always get it. So why bother voting, no?

"Why doesn't anyone give credit to edwin jackson to say he may be proven"

Two words: Fausto Carmona. I could probably name a dozen or so guys who got it together for just a year then no longer had it. Yes, Jackson is looking like he's reach full potential. But no, this doesn't mean we can call him a proven pitcher yet.


"The RSN, NESN, believed Wakefield should have been STARTING the All-Star game."

They recently said this? Or in the middle of May when he was pretty much second to Greinke in the AL? Don't get me wrong... I'm a Sox fan and I certainly don't believe Wake is a better choice than many other possibilities out there. But I honestly think Maddon chose Wakefield more as a tip of the hat kinda thing. He's a manager who respects workmanship.

Yeah, in the middle of May would have made more sense. I felt it was a very valid discussion then, and couldn't truly choose myself.

However, it was said very recently after an interleague start, against the Braves, June 27th. That was a fantastic start, but, eh... The main point of the argument was Wake's win numbers. Ugh. I highly respect your opinion, start wearing purple; from what I read, you are an informed Red Sox fan.

Another example is Armando Gallaraga. Great year last year, this year not so much.

"I really think writers shuld vote for who plays. At least it will be fair."

Why??? so the guys who screw up the Cy Young, MVP award, Rookie of the Year and HOF voting every year can screw up the all star voting too?

They'll just vote for the guys who give them the best interviews and both all star teams will have 13 starting pitchers and zero closers.

Raul wins, but i have a feeling he is not going to be able to feast off nl east pitching for much longer

Good for Jason Marquis. Cubs fans were just brutal to him. He may be the comeback player of the year....

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