Heyman On Deadline Deals

OMG Heyman writes some of the stupidest stuff.

1. Did he seriously post a list of "untouchable prospects" in relation to a Halladay trade? Seriously? Absolutely ridiculous. Halladay is arguably the best pitcher in baseball. Teams are going to HAVE to part with their elite prospect talent and ravage their farm systems to get Halladay. If not, JP isn't doing it right.

2. Matt Holliday, in spite of his offensive down year, is still the best position player on the trade market unless the Padres make Adrian Gonzalez available. The A's still have plenty of leverage, and can add more if they eat salary. So Heyman fails again.

"Did he seriously post a list of "untouchable prospects" in relation to a Halladay trade? Seriously? Absolutely ridiculous."

I disagree. Depending on your organizational resources, a top-quality prospect may be more valuable than Halladay. Sure, if you're the Yankees you can just go out an buy the next Mark Teixeira when you trade away two years worth of top draft picks. No sweat. (Even that is an exaggeration, really.) I don't think Texas has the money to part with Smoak and Feliz in order to have Halladay's services. The Mariners simply don't have that kind of money budgeted right now, so the ownership group would have to clear it before they could get Halladay. Etc. Everyone pretends like every big league club could always find the money for one year of a star, but it is not true.

I would pretty much trade away my entire farm system for halladay if I were the Sox... They did it a while back and it worked. Then they had a good draft and completely replenished their farm... The javy trade didnt hurt either... Could you Imagine where the Sox would be now with Javy on the team?

With Cleveland looking to do something solid for the future to shake things up they WOULD move Cliff Lee all it would take is 1 major league ready starter that they would control for the next 5 or 6 years Like a Buchholz, Feliz, Holland, Bumgardnar. As the center piece plus a couple lower prospect that would be a couple years away from the majors. I think a trade involving a Buchholz or Masterson as the center piece with a Bowden, Bard or Casey Kelly would net the Red Sox Victor Martinez.

Johnny Peralta for a couple infield prospects 1 to 2 years out a 3rd baseman and Shortstop would pry Peralta from the indians. Since it finally looks like Andy Marte is ready to be the top prospect power hitter everyone thought he would be 2 years ago.

Andy Marte was rushed to the major by Atlanta / Boston and then Cleveland the trial failed in Cleveland but the guy was barely 23 then now 25 and hitting like a beast may finially be ready.

I look for him to get the chance to prove it the rest of the season with the indians way out of it now.

Others who I look to be trade before Spring Training 2010 is Kerry Wood / Rafy Betancourt / Kelly Shoppach / Ryan Garko and Jamey Carroll

The GM for Toronto is what I would be doing. Halladay is at that age now where his nickname fits "Doc." Why not shop around and sees you gives you the best prospects available.

The Crew of Brew:
I agree with you about keeping prospects, but if Halladay was the final piece and pretty well guaranteed the team getting to the world series, would you do the trade?

I know if I was the GM, I would do it in a minute. Prospects are just that, prospects.

Kenny Williams could easily make a deal to get Halladay IF the BlueJays aren't full of chit. Who cares about Beckham? Get rid of him and do the deal. He is nothing special.

Imo Beckham / Richards / Getz / Ramirez and a lower minor league pitching prospect would be as good if not better than anything The Phillies could off.

4 major League ready now guys and a prospect

I saw Beckham play against Cleveland this year and this guy is an A++ prospect can't miss guy IMO, would love to do a in division deal and pick up Beckham.

Maybe a Dan Haren type deal for Halladay.

Like 6 high-mid level prospects would land him while keeping your organization's star prospects.

"I would pretty much trade away my entire farm system for halladay if I were the Sox... They did it a while back and it worked. Then they had a good draft and completely replenished their farm... The javy trade didnt hurt either... Could you Imagine where the Sox would be now with Javy on the team?"-redeye
Yeah this is a great idea that way we'll have a whole team of 30+ players and still be average. Whats the point of trading your future if the guy your getting will just get u to the playoffs?

QUOTE by redeyeexposure: "If the White Sox were able to trade away Octavio Dotel and get rid of his contract... They could easily package Poreda, Vicedo, and Flowers to the Jays maybe add 2 more good prospects in danks and shelby, and get away with a trade for halladay. not to mention if the PTBNL was a first rounder like jared mitchell then it could totally happen. and that is the piece that completely solves the sox. Adding Halladay to that rotation is probably the best post-season rotation you could get. Plus the Jays get a good amount of top tier prospects. They might even be able to throw in Fields and another minor league A ball player for rolen to get tossed in as well. Drop beckham back to the minors. And when you trade dotel for cap room make sure you get a player that can play anywhere... Maybe even throw in a few more prospects to get scutaro in the deal to play 3rd. This makes the White Sox a World Series threat right away."

OMG! Are you high? Halladay is NOT worth giving up 6 players. Get some air cus it's hard to breathe sweating this guy's nuts. You have absolutely no idea what it's like to be a GM. The Jays messed up in putting Halladay on the trading block a year late. Any team that gets him has to take on the remainder of a $14 million deal this year and nearly $16M next year. He is 32 now, but still shows he got something left, but he will be slowing down in time and he just came off the DL with a groin problem, which can become a nagging injury again later this season. Albert Pujols is worth giving up 6 players but Halladay? The Sox could get him for Richard, Poreda, Marquez, & either Getz, Nix, or Viciedo not Vicedo. At most 4 players. And you still have to sign him long-term or he walks away and you gave up 6 players for nothing. Fields & a minor leaguer for Rolen? Throw Beckham to the minors? When he is hitting good right now? :p Mary Jane is really messing with ur mind. Overly exposed red eyes if you ask me. LOL