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2:08pm: MLB.com's Noah Coslov says the White Sox received Mark Kotsay and cash from the Red Sox for Anderson. A Red Sox press release says Anderson will be assigned to Triple A Pawtucket. The 27 year-old voiced his desire for a trade last Thursday to MLB.com's Scott Merkin. He has a .225/.288/.364 line in 862 career plate appearances (and here's a look at his glovework; the biggest sample is 966 innings in '06).
Kotsay was designated for assignment by Boston on Friday. The 33 year-old hit .257/.291/.324 in 79 plate appearances for the Red Sox; he'd re-signed in January for $1.5MM plus incentives. He was hobbled by calf and back injuries.
1:59pm: The Red Sox acquired Brian Anderson from the White Sox, according to David Lefort of the Boston Globe. It's unclear what the Red Sox gave up or where they'll assign Anderson, who had been playing in the minors for the White Sox.
Tim Dierkes contributed to this post.
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Strange move, I'm guessing he is probably going to be shipped elsewhere before the deadline in another bigger deal.
Posted by: We Need More Signs | July 28, 2009 at 02:01 PM
Power Shift in the AL
Posted by: NedCollettiClueless | July 28, 2009 at 02:03 PM
What kind of big deal would involve Brian Anderson????
Posted by: baseball52 | July 28, 2009 at 02:03 PM
I'm kinda confused by this, but I'm sure there is a reason behind this move just like there is always something behind every Red Sox move
Posted by: jcrabtree | July 28, 2009 at 02:03 PM
Bucholtz, Bowden, and Ellsbury for Roy Halladay?
Posted by: JayMac | July 28, 2009 at 02:03 PM
I would take this deal to indicate that Ellsbury is on the table in a deal right now.
Posted by: Dicky LaRue | July 28, 2009 at 02:04 PM
Power Shift in the AL
Posted by: NedCollettiClueless |
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hahahahaha
Posted by: Gosser128 | July 28, 2009 at 02:04 PM
It's Mark Kotsay for Brian Anderson.
Posted by: Townie | July 28, 2009 at 02:05 PM
White Sox acquire Mark Kotsay.
Source: WSCR 670 The Score.
Posted by: jworldwide | July 28, 2009 at 02:06 PM
Everyone relax, this is far more like the Dave Roberts / Keilty trades than the Nomar / Manny trades. Earlier today we heard the Sox were looking for a fourth outfielder who could field, since Baldelli is partially a platoon guy.
With that said, trading Ellsbury, which would never happen, would make me extremely happy.
Posted by: Sean O | July 28, 2009 at 02:06 PM
There's too many Andersons right now in baeball IMO.
"I would take this deal to indicate that Ellsbury is on the table in a deal right now."
What would a AAAA guy in Anderson have to do with the starting CFer. Just CF insurance if Ellsbury gets hurt, I think.
Posted by: melonis rex | July 28, 2009 at 02:07 PM
Townie hit in right on the head. Red Sox DFA'd Kotsay and Anderson was having a hard time in Chicago ... all you sox fans who think a big move is on the way without noting that teams are reluctant to give up prospects have no clue. Would you rather have Buchholz, Bowden, Ellsbury or Halladay and Anderson? i would take the first every time. Hallday is great and all but winning teams are built off of youth and home grown talent. Its not always the star player that puts you over the edge.
Posted by: FreeSide | July 28, 2009 at 02:08 PM
"Bucholtz, Bowden, and Ellsbury for Roy Halladay?"
1)This is not the place for this
2)Its not enough for the Jays to move him, the Philles had better offers
3)No. Just no. I dont know why people assume Ellsbury is still available, hes the teams centerfielder, hes staying in Boston
Posted by: 04Forever | July 28, 2009 at 02:11 PM
This is strictly a depth move. The Sox depth CF in AAA, Jonathan Van Every is out for the season. Baldelli can't be counted on to play every day if Ellsbury gets hurt. Gotta get rid of Kotsay before his 10 days are up. Poof, Anderson moves to Pawtucket.
Posted by: Little Bear | July 28, 2009 at 02:12 PM
This is a good, though minor, move for both teams.
Posted by: Little Bear | July 28, 2009 at 02:13 PM
fail.
Posted by: part-time pariah | July 28, 2009 at 02:14 PM
I think this is just a depth move for when the rosters expand. I don't see Ellsbury going anywhere, he has started to hit since returning to the leadoff spot, plays a good CF (save for throwing) and everyone knows about his speed.
Posted by: fenway_faithful | July 28, 2009 at 02:15 PM
This is strictly a depth move. The Sox depth CF in AAA, Jonathan Van Every is out for the season. Baldelli can't be counted on to play every day if Ellsbury gets hurt. Gotta get rid of Kotsay before his 10 days are up. Poof, Anderson moves to Pawtucket.
Posted by: Little Bear | July 28, 2009 at 02:12 PM
That about covers it.
Posted by: baxter4218 | July 28, 2009 at 02:15 PM
Good trade for both teams.
BA's a great defender and a change of scenery might help.
And Kotsay...is better than Wise. Good deal.
Posted by: astralpanda | July 28, 2009 at 02:15 PM
crap for crap fields is gone...
Posted by: shamrockyoass | July 28, 2009 at 02:17 PM
crap for crap
Posted by: shamrockyoass | July 28, 2009 at 02:18 PM
DING DING DING we have a winner Cant say i told you guys ... All of you were OMG BIG MOVE AHHH YEAH when all it was was a little swap of bad players. OOOO AHHHH
Posted by: FreeSide | July 28, 2009 at 02:18 PM
When Podsednik joins the White Sox a month into the season and has more homeruns and rbi's than you do, you know you are bad. Anderson is a horrible offensive player. He is at most a defensive purposes outfielder and even then, Dwayne Wise was picked over him for defense.
Posted by: ChiSoxKilla23 | July 28, 2009 at 02:19 PM
who is bucholtz?
Posted by: EWS1532 | July 28, 2009 at 02:20 PM
Fields better not leave.. D-Wise should be left to the curb. Great defensive gem during the perfect game, but his career/life only goes downhill from here.
As far as pods having more hr / rbis... pods is having a comeback year, comparing him to BA is unfair.
Posted by: whitesoxfan424 | July 28, 2009 at 02:21 PM
Wis was not picked over Anderson for his defense, or his offense, it was because of 2 reasons, Ozzie doesn't like BA for whatever reason, and they were afraid he wouldn't clear waivers, which BA still had 1 option year left. I think it's a shame that the best defensive player was shipped out of town for a AAAA guy who is worse at every part of the game than he was, and also older.
Posted by: rype123 | July 28, 2009 at 02:25 PM
Yo FreeSide
If you think this means Theo is done your crazy... He may not end up pulling off the big trade he wants, but he will be busy trying right upto the Friday deadline.
Posted by: TJ Sox Fan | July 28, 2009 at 02:26 PM
Can someone explain why the headline of this thread is
Red Sox Acquire Brian Anderson for Mark Kotsay
and not
White Sox Acquire Mark Kotsay for Brian Anderson?
Posted by: ballyb11 | July 28, 2009 at 02:26 PM
"As far as pods having more hr / rbis... pods is having a comeback year, comparing him to BA is unfair."
It shouldn't matter. Pods has 32HR and 228RBI's for his whole career. Anderson played everyday and was supposed to be some sort of run producer. When a guy who's job is to literally slap the ball to get on base has more HR's and RBI's than you, and you had a month head start playing everyday? Not a good thing.
Posted by: ChiSoxKilla23 | July 28, 2009 at 02:27 PM
Well ballyb, prolly because Kotsays name wasnt know as the other end of the deal when the post was first made, but yes, they should update it, cause its clearly Kotsay being acquired for Anderson.
Posted by: TJ Sox Fan | July 28, 2009 at 02:31 PM
Can someone explain why the headline of this thread is Red Sox Acquire Brian Anderson for Mark Kotsay and not
White Sox Acquire Mark Kotsay for Brian Anderson?
Yes, I can. When the headline first went up, it wasn't known who the Red Sox had traded. It just said "Red Sox Acquire Brian Anderson". Then the details came out and "for Mark Kotsay" was tacked on.
Posted by: Little Bear | July 28, 2009 at 02:34 PM
Didn't think anyone in Chicago actually liked Fields or Anderson
Posted by: 815Sox | July 28, 2009 at 02:35 PM
"As far as pods having more hr / rbis... pods is having a comeback year, comparing him to BA is unfair."
You make a good point. I think the real issue is frustration with WS fans that Anderson turned out to be a bust, plain and simple. Chicago baseball has seen plenty of over hyped, under performing CFers. To be fair with both clubs, there is one constant with all of the over hyped, under performing CFers that came through the Sox and Cubs. This includes Anderson, too. They would not listen to coaches trying to better their developement. So now the Brian Anderson era ends with the Sox and begins...with the Sox.
Good trade for what was delt from both sides.
Posted by: studio179 | July 28, 2009 at 02:39 PM
Ok so i guess this means Josh Fields is next to go. White Sox already have Beckham tearing it up and they have Nix who plays well as a utility IF who plays a better defense than fields and has a better bat. Plus Fields only positions to play at now are 1st and DH. But now with Kotsay you get an outfielder who can also play 1b. Fields is not needed.
Posted by: Rock&RollGangsta | July 28, 2009 at 02:43 PM
"Fields better not leave.. D-Wise should be left to the curb. Great defensive gem during the perfect game, but his career/life only goes downhill from here.
As far as pods having more hr / rbis... pods is having a comeback year, comparing him to BA is unfair."
Posted by: whitesoxfan424 | July 28, 2009 at 02:21 PM
i'd bet my first-born daughter that pods doesn't repeat this performance next year.
Posted by: part-time pariah | July 28, 2009 at 02:43 PM
lol, already being swarmed by overzealous redsox fans over-analyzing this insignificant move. sigh.
Posted by: part-time pariah | July 28, 2009 at 02:45 PM
Thw White Sox are freeing up the #32 for Roy Halladay!! : )
Posted by: mboss | July 28, 2009 at 02:48 PM
Come on... Brian Anderson? Who the hell is this guy? Well they arent getting rid of Ellsbury so he might be delt as part of another deal for a bigger trade? Not only did they give Kotsay, they gave the White Sox money to. WOW!!!
Posted by: AO_003 | July 28, 2009 at 02:50 PM
"lol, already being swarmed by overzealous redsox fans over-analyzing this insignificant move. sigh"
Red Sox fans being swarmed by overzealous anti-sox over-analyzing what they say
Posted by: SamHorn | July 28, 2009 at 02:58 PM
Red Sox fans being swarmed by overzealous anti-sox over-analyzing what they say
Posted by: SamHorn | July 28, 2009 at 02:58 PM
well yea, that too. i hate the red sox to death...but i love me white sox.
good luck with BA. you're likely to run into him at the bars downtown in boston, should he ever make it there...
Posted by: part-time pariah | July 28, 2009 at 03:01 PM
Anderson is a prime example of how much hype can distort fan perception. The BoSox get an option who can play a strong defensive OF, with the range of a CF. This will add some leverage in the Bay negotiations, which just got cut off until after the season.
Posted by: basemonkey | July 28, 2009 at 03:01 PM
This isn't about Brian Anderson. Its about the Red Sox controlling where the players they dump go.
They released him, so he was going somewhere. This way he doesnt end up patrolling Yankee or Tampa outfield.
Brian Anderson, Triple A fodder. Don't read anything more into it.
Posted by: SamHorn | July 28, 2009 at 03:02 PM
"lol, already being swarmed by overzealous redsox fans over-analyzing this insignificant move. sigh"
Red Sox fans being swarmed by overzealous anti-sox over-analyzing what they say
Posted by: SamHorn | July 28, 2009 at 02:58 PM
ZING!
Posted by: EWS1532 | July 28, 2009 at 03:03 PM
Once again this is about BA. He wont be in the Boston bars, he'll be in the Pawtucket bars.
This is about sending Kotsay to the LEAST threatening team that wanted him. That would be your White Sox.
Posted by: SamHorn | July 28, 2009 at 03:06 PM
Can someone explain why the headline of this thread is
Red Sox Acquire Brian Anderson for Mark Kotsay
and not
White Sox Acquire Mark Kotsay for Brian Anderson?
Posted by: ballyb11 | July 28, 2009 at 02:26 PM
This is a simple one: The article was posted at 1:59 when it was announced the Red Sox acquired Brian Anderson. It was not known who the White Sox received (and is noted as such) thus....it wouldn't have made much of a headline to state: White Sox acquire someone from the Red Sox.
People can perceive to believe coverage is unfair, but had a reporters from Chicago broke the story (not a reporter from Boston) I am sure the report would have been exactly the opposite. It's really not biased coverage by this site or any other when a Boston writer gets a beat on something that a Chicago writer did not have.
Any other questions?
Posted by: baxter4218 | July 28, 2009 at 03:06 PM
lol.
Posted by: part-time pariah | July 28, 2009 at 03:10 PM
"Once again this is about BA. He wont be in the Boston bars, he'll be in the Pawtucket bars."
well that would be fine, if that is what i said...try reading the post before reacting...
Posted by: part-time pariah | July 28, 2009 at 03:10 PM
brian anderson adds ZERO leverage for the red sox in the jason bay negotiations.
NONE
Posted by: EWS1532 | July 28, 2009 at 03:14 PM
This is strictly a depth move. The Sox depth CF in AAA, Jonathan Van Every is out for the season. Baldelli can't be counted on to play every day if Ellsbury gets hurt. Gotta get rid of Kotsay before his 10 days are up. Poof, Anderson moves to Pawtucket.
Posted by: Little Bear | July 28, 2009 at 02:12 PM
Exactly. The Sox just are adding depth in case.
Really a minor move for both teams, but useful at the same time.
Posted by: UGotRPK3113 | July 28, 2009 at 03:15 PM
i guess you mean the "if he makes it there" comment?
Whatever
you say "if" I say "won't make it". A guy with the talent of B Anderson can make the White Sox and play there for 5 years. With a career .225 BA and .288 OBP. Guys with that little talent would never stay with Red Sox parent club except for a cup of tea when 2 or 3 other OF got banged up.
I can't believe WS let him play in 134 and 109 games. Is that team that bad?
Posted by: SamHorn | July 28, 2009 at 03:18 PM
lol, still salty about '05? that was so 4 years ago.
Posted by: part-time pariah | July 28, 2009 at 03:19 PM
help me out 05?
Posted by: SamHorn | July 28, 2009 at 03:25 PM
hurry now, there is another red sox rumor...don't wanna miss that one!
hurry now! is it (insert random superstar here)??????
Posted by: part-time pariah | July 28, 2009 at 03:28 PM
WS beat Red Sox in playoffs that year? That? ROFL
It called 'Visions of Grandeur' when you think events in your own life are that important to others.
Ummm Red Sox won WS in 2004 and 2007. And didn't even have to play White Sox. I think we'll get over whatever you think Sox fans feel about "'05"
Posted by: SamHorn | July 28, 2009 at 03:29 PM
hurry!
Posted by: part-time pariah | July 28, 2009 at 03:32 PM
Obviously a shrewd move by Kenny Williams causing the the BoSox team batting average to drop 50 points before the Red Sox play the White Sox. If Brian Anderson even goes near your bat rack, your team leaves 5 extra runners on base.
Posted by: OmegaMan | July 28, 2009 at 03:38 PM
omegaman
White Sox got Kotsay by default. Don't know how that was so 'shrewd'. Red Sox had released Kotsay and had to dump him somewhere. And the last thing the RSox wanted was Kotsay playing for TBay or Yankees. Kotsay went to WSox because they are one of the smallest threats to RSox.
If he was that 'shrewd', how come he had this Anderson on his team for 5 yrs? Anderson will never see Fenway Park. Unless there is a pandemic in the outfield there. He will be at the Pawtucket Brewery instead.
Posted by: SamHorn | July 28, 2009 at 03:46 PM
As a White Sox fan, BA wasn't cutting the cheese whiz, so send him on his way. Maybe he realizes his talent in the Red Sox system. Kotsay marginally helps the White Sox. Not a big deal, but no winner or loser in this one.
Posted by: dtgent | July 28, 2009 at 03:49 PM
see, u are salty!
oh, and you're allowed to use the word 'the'...
Posted by: part-time pariah | July 28, 2009 at 03:51 PM
agree 100% dtgent.
This helps WSox a bit. Kotsay servicable 4th OFer.
Red Sox waived Kotsay couple of days ago, so they had to move him or see him maybe sign somewhere they dont want (Yankees?). They don't really need or want Anderson. Just a swap of OFers and Anderson can be stuck into Minors. Kotsay couldnt.
Posted by: SamHorn | July 28, 2009 at 03:53 PM
Winner of this trade: Brian Anderson
He's been (whether fairly or not) in the doghouse in Chicago for a long-time. He's getting a fresh start in the Red Sox organization and will have should have a realistic chance at earning the 4th/5th OF spot on the team next season if he can put together a solid second half in Pawtucket.
Posted by: TNS | July 28, 2009 at 03:53 PM
SamHorn, Obviously detecting sarcasm is not one of your strong points.
Posted by: OmegaMan | July 28, 2009 at 03:53 PM
SamHorn, Obviously detecting sarcasm is not one of your strong points.
Posted by: OmegaMan | July 28, 2009 at 03:53 PM
will have/should have*
Posted by: TNS | July 28, 2009 at 03:54 PM
People are looking WAY too into this. Both teams got rid of something they didn't want. Chisox get a vet. bench player with good pinch hitting stats to replace an even worse bench player; while Bosox get a little younger depth in the minors. Done, end of story.
Posted by: whitesoxfan424 | July 28, 2009 at 03:57 PM
LOL, were you being sarcastic Omega. Sorry I did miss that.
Kotsay is a decent 4th OFer/1B and he shows up to play everyday. Its a decent pickup for them, and costed nothing (Anderson).
PS: you should have that stutter checked out ;)
Posted by: SamHorn | July 28, 2009 at 03:58 PM
No Worries.
Posted by: OmegaMan | July 28, 2009 at 04:03 PM
I thought Red Sox shouldve waived Baldelli, not Kotsay, when they picked up LaRoche.
Baldelli has disease where he cant play back-to-back games (only twice all season, and has not played in 3 in a row)
Also Baldelli doesn't play firstbase, where as Kotsay can.
But, both Kotsay and LaRoche are Left-Handed bats and Baldelli is Right.
Posted by: SamHorn | July 28, 2009 at 04:03 PM
wow, your posts get more and more informative...
Posted by: part-time pariah | July 28, 2009 at 04:06 PM
I only low-brow it when I talk to pariah's
Posted by: SamHorn | July 28, 2009 at 04:07 PM
Halladay and Wells for Ellsbury, Bowden, Buchholz, Westmoreland, Gil Velazquez
Posted by: Barroid_Bonds | July 28, 2009 at 04:11 PM
Theo has now managed to get 2 solid players (Chris Duncan and Anderson) for 2 players DFA'd. Getting anything at all for them is impressive enough, but this s just further evidence why Theo is the best GM in baseball.
Posted by: retiremikes31 | July 28, 2009 at 04:24 PM
solid?
Posted by: part-time pariah | July 28, 2009 at 04:44 PM
As a White Sox fan I dont really understand this trade.
- But Yeah Anderson asked for a trade and he didnt play alot because
- Ozzie prefers blacks over whites anyday
- Brian Anderson Party'ed aton. He would go out after every home game and get hammered. He's been spotted alot around Chicago
- Why should any southsider care that we traded him when we have Podsednik who should be playing everyday w Quentin back?
Posted by: ChiCity Sox | July 28, 2009 at 05:59 PM
Also to be noted, I believe both players go free agent next year while I am sure neither team would have resigned them. No loss for either team. Sox get a batter left handed CF/1B, BoSox get a good defensive, younger CF for depth.
Posted by: whitesoxfan424 | July 28, 2009 at 06:19 PM
"Thw White Sox are freeing up the #32 for Roy Halladay!! : )"
That's funny, but I'm predicting Haren. Also, I think Kotsay means Fields will be part of a deal and Anderson will be part of the deal for Cliff Lee ... they can shut Sizemore down for the surgery he needs. IMHO
Hang in there Pariah! Don't take any of that arrogant Boston crap.
Posted by: Svengoolie | July 28, 2009 at 06:33 PM
OK, I understand why the headline reads "Red Sox Acquire Brian Anderson..." But the Chicago White Sox are not even tagged in the post, meaning when you click "Chicago White Sox Rumors" on the right side of the page, this doesn't show up.
I had heard about the deal, but wanted more details. I came here to look and had to search for the post...
Posted by: rowdyoctopus | July 28, 2009 at 07:44 PM
solid? Really?? Are you people in Boston drunk all the time or are the public schools just that bad...
Here-I'll explain the trade to you in words you can understand... BA IS WICKED RETAHDED!!! YOU'LL SEE HIM IN ALL THE PAHTUCKET BAHS!!!
Get the point...Calm Your Liver. This is a minor, minor trade to set up a bigger trade for both sides. Bosox get a decent 5th OF but absolutely no bat-Chisox get a pinchitter plus cash and free up the inevitable trade of Josh Fields.
Oh, SamHorn, English is a wonderful language, feel free to use it. Oh, and Sam-El Duque-does that refresh your memory?
Posted by: billmelton | July 28, 2009 at 10:29 PM
Its just a depth move. Kotsay placed and waivers and anderson is just another body to take his place. Anderson is a former 1st round pick, hopefully a chance of scenery will help him find his potential. But absolutely not part of a bigger deal
Posted by: bostonfaded | July 29, 2009 at 09:45 AM
Might as well ink in The Yanks and the Phillies in the World Series. Can't see anyone that will get in the way in either league. Cliff Lee in the NL will be a monsta!!
Posted by: hockeyislife | July 29, 2009 at 05:05 PM
Remember the Joe Borchard for Matt Thornton (from Seattle) trade White Sox fans? If the second coming of Borchard (Anderson, another first round busto) yields another productive player like Thornton, I am pumped! Welcome Mr. Kotsay, please hit over .225!
Posted by: Coach Stick | July 29, 2009 at 06:35 PM
i agree...remember jeremy reed..good thing we shipped him to seattle for freddy garcia even though he was supposed to be a great player...seems like we cant have good outfielders come through our system...with the grat exceptions of magglio and carlos lee....
Posted by: BestTraDeNevErMAde | July 29, 2009 at 09:07 PM
Here-I'll explain the trade to you in words you can understand... BA IS WICKED RETAHDED!!! YOU'LL SEE HIM IN ALL THE PAHTUCKET BAHS!!!
hilarious!!!!!
but i do think that this puts fields n some prospects on a plane to baltimore for george sherill..hopefully...
Posted by: BestTraDeNevErMAde | July 29, 2009 at 09:11 PM