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The Red Sox have agreed to sign Cuban shortstop Jose Iglesias to a deal worth over $8MM, according to Michael Silverman of the Boston Herald. We heard that the Red Sox were close to signing the defensive phenom a week ago, but it looks like the agreement is complete, though an official announcement isn't expected until later in the month.
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Oh wow.
He's not close to MLB ready though, ala Dayan Viciedo.
Posted by: melonis rex | July 10, 2009 at 10:08 AM
Thanks Ben,
I posted a Spanish link below in the Gammons article, then imagine most here are not bilingual..
Posted by: johns | July 10, 2009 at 10:09 AM
so basically the sox are going back to 06' again like they did with Alex Gonzalez
Posted by: 04Forever | July 10, 2009 at 10:18 AM
Interesting that he's already max'ed out at 5'10, 180 according to BP, isn't that a bit early to be completely filled out at 19 and has no projection left?
I hadn't paid attention to it, but worst case scenario they get a Nick Punto/Adam Everett type for I don't know, 1.3-2 million a year? Not terrible, and maybe some upside.
(I'm a Yankees fan, so maybe I'm slightly biased, we really don't know about these prospects all that well with the limited info)
Posted by: zs190 | July 10, 2009 at 10:22 AM
I should clarify, when I said I haven't paid attention to it, I meant I haven't been following this prospect.
Posted by: zs190 | July 10, 2009 at 10:24 AM
can anyone find a line on this guy, i cant find a single stat anywhere...
Posted by: 04Forever | July 10, 2009 at 10:26 AM
Yes, it's been interesting to watch the Red Sox front office come full-circle from "We love Alex Gonzalez's glove, but can't live with his bat" to "Oh crap, our SS free-agent mistakes can't field OR hit" to "Oh well, maybe Alex Gonzalez wasn't so bad."
Posted by: DunkinDonuts | July 10, 2009 at 10:26 AM
"so basically the sox are going back to 06' again like they did with Alex Gonzalez"
Gonzo had range and a superb glove, not sure if this guy has range from all reports yet, just the glove.
Have seen some posts on a Sox site with him and Sox AA guy Argenias Diaz, who is a flashy glove and -0- bat, but Diaz has yet to learn to hit since being signed as a IFA as a 16YO in 2003 consistently.
Iglesias is larger at 180lbs than the skinny as a rail Diaz at 155lbs and 5'11", so the Sox must think he has the ability to give him 8M+.
Posted by: johns | July 10, 2009 at 10:31 AM
Scouting report on Iglesias -
"Plus plus glovework. Plus arm. Average range. Excellent instincts. Has the makings of a gold glove shortstop. His bat is a question mark at this point, particularly power-wise, and he's not likely to add much more bulk to his frame. Pull hitter. Average speed."
Color me unimpressed for $8+ million. I know teams are moving towards defensive metrics more than ever, but that's a lot of change for a 19 year old who already has a questionable bat.
Posted by: carini26 | July 10, 2009 at 10:37 AM
"Color me unimpressed for $8+ million."
Agreed, I'd like to see more of a bat for that price. But the fact remains that an up the middle defense has always been a hallmark of a winning team and the Sox really could use a good defensive shortstop even if it means putting his bat in the #9 hole in the future.
Posted by: start_wearing_purple | July 10, 2009 at 10:58 AM
Any SS that can field better than Rent-a Wreck, Julio Lugo and the way Garciaparra did his last season and hit a tad above the Mendoza line would be a vast improvement in Boston, or should say able to stay as SS for a couple years in a row.
Posted by: johns | July 10, 2009 at 11:06 AM
Meanwhile, I thought the Sox already had an Ozzie-Smith-like prospect named Yamaico Navarro?
He's 21 and sporting a .908 OPS in high A (very sss, I know...)
"Scouting Report: Not initially signed as a big name, Navarro has thoroughly impressed the Sox brass during his rise through the organization. He has an athletic build for a shortstop, with a little bit of bulk. At the plate, he makes good contact and generates good loft off his bat, resulting in a lot of liners. Quick wrists, nice bat speed. Hits fastballs better than breaking balls. A little too aggressive at the plate, could stand to take some more pitches. Average speed and good power for a middle infielder. In the field, he plays 2B, 3B, and SS more than adequately, with a sure glove, an above average arm, and decent fluidity. He has had some problems with executing double plays, but that seems to be improving. Regardless, he's always entertaining to watch, and turns a lot of big league gems with his glove. He has an Ozzie Smith-like electricity in the field."
I understand depth is fabulous and prospects are a dime a dozen, but Iglesias just doesn't seem worth it when Navarro cost the Sox a measly $20K to sign.
Posted by: carini26 | July 10, 2009 at 11:09 AM
That average range gives me a frown. I want my shortstops to range far and wide. I could deal with an average glove if he was getting to that many more balls. At least that is my preference.
Posted by: barroomhero | July 10, 2009 at 11:10 AM
So... uh... he's Ramiro Pena, but more raw? For $8M?
Posted by: V | July 10, 2009 at 11:13 AM
Navarro is in his 1st season above low A ball and only 50 AB's at high A ball this year. Sure he looks good, but his bat is also a question mark. Does not hurt to get another backup option, along with Oscar Tejada (bat and learning a glove) and Argenias Diaz, who is all glove so far.
Sox also have 2008 #2 draft pick speed demon Derrick Gibson that they may be able to move to SS and is doing very well for the GCL Sox in his 1st pro season.
Posted by: johns | July 10, 2009 at 11:21 AM
It seems premature to judge this signing considering that we know next to nothing about the guy. The Red Sox, while not always great at trading, have shown remarkable success in scouting and I would trust that they see at least proficient offensive potential in this guy.
Posted by: themfightnwords | July 10, 2009 at 11:26 AM
Sox also have 2008 #2 draft pick speed demon Derrick Gibson that they may be able to move to SS and is doing very well for the GCL Sox in his 1st pro season.
Posted by: johns | July 10, 2009 at 11:21 AM
Gibson is in Lowell and July has not been kind to him so far.
I am hoping the real SS of the Red Sox future turns out to be David Renfroe... but that's assuming we sign him (we will) and he sticks at SS v. filling out and playing the hot corner.
Posted by: carini26 | July 10, 2009 at 11:30 AM
"I am hoping the real SS of the Red Sox future turns out to be David Renfroe... but that's assuming we sign him (we will) and he sticks at SS v. filling out and playing the hot corner."
They better sign Renfroe, with #6 Kline almost for certain going to UVA and #7 Younginer still unsigned.
My apologies on Gibson, should have known better since listen in on Lowell games when 2009 #2 Alex Wilson pitches..
Posted by: johns | July 10, 2009 at 11:39 AM
It seems premature to judge this signing considering that we know next to nothing about the guy. The Red Sox, while not always great at trading, have shown remarkable success in scouting and I would trust that they see at least proficient offensive potential in this guy.
Posted by: themfightnwords | July 10, 2009 at 11:26 AM
For the most part, I agree... I give them the benefit of the doubt and trust they've done their homework. It's just hard to mix "questionable bat" and "signs for $8.2M" together without causing some concern.
But then again, as long as there's no correlation that goes something like "Sox shell out $20M in 2009 to international FAs" and "Sox raise ticket prices 5% across the board for 2010"... I really don't care as a fan.
Posted by: carini26 | July 10, 2009 at 11:42 AM
"They better sign Renfroe, with #6 Kline almost for certain going to UVA and #7 Younginer still unsigned."
I think Renfroe and Younginer are signed. Younginer is exactly the type Sox brass covet. Ideal pitcher frame with a plus fastball and plus slider. High school kid who lives just miles from low A Greenville. He'll get signed.
I bet Renfroe ends up signing for Westmoreland money.
Kline is a goner unless the Sox back the truck up for the kid. Gotta respect his decision though. Great student and first one in his family to go to college. Definitely root for kids like this.
Posted by: carini26 | July 10, 2009 at 11:52 AM
"I am hoping the real SS of the Red Sox future turns out to be David Renfroe..."
From what I understand, the brass see him more as a future 3B.
"6 Kline almost for certain going to UVA and #7 Younginer still unsigned."
I'm willing to bet Younginer signs on the last day for above slot money. As for Kline, yeah... the rumors I'm hearing is all talks have ended.
Posted by: start_wearing_purple | July 10, 2009 at 11:53 AM
He's only 19 - get the kid some north end italian food and muscle milk, and he'll be MLB shape before too long.
A-Gon and the rest of the premium defense of the 06 sox definitely helped the many mediocre groundball pitchers that year pick up a few extra wins.
Posted by: yuppiescum | July 10, 2009 at 12:26 PM
Does this mean we have to wait 3 years now for a real SS?
Posted by: wally | July 10, 2009 at 02:45 PM
I wonder if this signing has any other significance in potentially leading to another Cuban? I ask because the org unlike the nyy has little to no experience with Cuba defectors.
They have appeared to overpay. Even if he turns out to be a superior glove man. Maybe there's a reason?
Posted by: Dortmunder | July 10, 2009 at 08:43 PM
I believe the $8M will turn out to be a several year major league contract, not simply a stupidly large bonus. This would require him to go on the 40 man roster, which would explain why Van Every was waived. Would also explain why they can't make the signing official yet (Van Every hasn't cleared).
Posted by: Little Bear | July 10, 2009 at 09:04 PM
"I wonder if this signing has any other significance in potentially leading to another Cuban?"
It would be a smart move, given that relations with Cuba are on the verge of serious improvement and the Yankees currently have a major lead in Cuban fan loyalty.
Posted by: Little Bear | July 10, 2009 at 09:06 PM