Trade Candidates: Starting Pitchers

A team would have to be really desperate to give up any worthwhile prospect for Doug Davis or Jon Garland.

Sure Davis has a nice ERA this season but his BB are up and his GB% is down, it is nothing but a LOB% blip.

Doug Brocail is not a starting pitcher.

What about KK from the Braves? I know about the door to Japan being burnt if this happens. However, they don't have to absolutely keep him. They should at least be able to get a B B- prospect from whoever they decide on.

If the Jays don't deal Doc, or even if they do, Brian Tallet may interest a lot of teams since he can now start or help out in the pen. CHC, NYM, STL, and PHI are some teams that may have a lot of interest in him, so I'd add him to the list of trade candidate pitchers.

Don't forget about Jeremy Guthrie, who MacPhail hasn't said is untouchable...

The Yankees should look at Doug Davis from the DBacks as an insurance starter. Joba has been inconsistent lately and Wang has been injured. Also he has pitched poorly this season except for a couple of starts before he hit the DL.

The idea of trading Vasquez is something invented by bloggers and sportswriters. Frank Wren didn't spend all his energy last offseason trying to put together a durable, effective starting rotation only to turn around and trade arguably his best starter the next July.

"Would a package from the Phillies consisting of Dominic Brown, Kyle Drabek, Jason Donald, Lou Marson, and Antonio Bastardo be enough?"

That's probably what the Jays are looking for, and probably what the Phillies are hesitant to deal.

What about a deal of Matt Joyce and Andy Sonnastine for Javy Vasquez? Another playoff run would go a long way towards paying Vasquez's salary.

"Any team that picked up Guthrie would severely regret it. Guthrie was one of the luckiest pitchers in the league for his first two seasons. Now, not so much."

Yeah, Guthrie isn't really much more than a mediocre 4/5 starter that has 91-96 MPH heat.

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"Would a package from the Phillies consisting of Dominic Brown, Kyle Drabek, Jason Donald, Lou Marson, and Antonio Bastardo be enough?"

That's probably what the Jays are looking for, and probably what the Phillies are hesitant to deal."

I don't understand why the Phillies are so hesitant to include Drabek in a Halladay package. Drabek only has two plus pitches, fastball and curveball, he's 21 and only in AA, and he's coming off of major surgery (TJS).

And yet, for some reason, his trade value is seemingly sky high right now.

I'd include Drabek in a package before Jason Knapp, simply because Drabek seems to be overvalued while Knapp doesn't get the hype that he deserves.

The Phillies should be willing to give up Brown/Drabek/Marson/Donald/low level guy for Halladay.

"Jon Garland, D'Backs - Another solid but unspectacular arm"

Hardly. Garland isn't too good.

He's pretty much incapable of missing bats (3.62 K/9) and his walk rate has increased in each season since 2006. He's been alright this season thanks to a fairly low HR/FB ratio, but he's nothing more than a decent fifth starter.

And he happens to make $8.75M for this season when you include the $2.5M buyout attached to his 2010 mutual option. They can't possibly exercise that $10M option.

I'd include Drabek in a package before Jason Knapp, simply because Drabek seems to be overvalued while Knapp doesn't get the hype that he deserves.

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I think you're underselling on Drabek. He had TJ surgery and usually the 2nd year after the surgery is when a pitcher is at his strongest. Drabek has FOR potential and at age 21 AA is a decent level for him to be right now.

scribbletone,

I agree with you 1000%. If forced to choose I'd choose to give up Drabek and not Knapp. You can't teach 96-98 MPH but you can teach mechanics and pitches.

Yanksfan,

while i do agree with you that Drabek is undersold by some if he didn't have TJ surgery he'd be at AAA right now with a callup a near certainty instead of waiting on him for 2010 to potentially start the season in Philly.

How about Halladay to the Dodgers for shortstop prospects Godon and DeJesus, plus pitching prospects McDonald, Elbert and Stults? I would do that if I am the Dodgers even though they are giving up future talent. . .

"Would a package from the Phillies consisting of Dominic Brown, Kyle Drabek, Jason Donald, Lou Marson, and Antonio Bastardo be enough?"

That's probably what the Jays are looking for, and probably what the Phillies are hesitant to deal.

Posted by: thephrontiersman | July 14, 2009 at 01:31 PM

Any trade for Halladay looks like will have to include JA Happ. From what all rumors out of Toronto are saying.

But Drabek, Bastardo, and a couple in fielder prospects not named Donald like High A guys would get you Cliff Lee and Phillies would save Millions and top Prospects Cliff Lee makes alot less next year 6 mil less and they would save a couple mil this year by trading for Lee.

And maybe more if Cleveland would pay the reat of Lee's contract this year. The Blue Jays will not pick up any of Hallidays contract.

And if money isn't a issue then why not trade for both after making the deal for Lee

Then trade JA Happ / Marson / Brown or Taylor / Donald / Savory for Halladay

Now you have a rotation that would make the Phillies the favorite not only for the World Series this year but also next year. Pedro would be the #5 guy.

Halliday / Hamels / Lee / Moyer or Blanton / Pedro

Blanton pitched out of the Bullpen as the long man for the A's before becoming a starter.