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ESPN.com's Jorge Arangure reports (via Twitter) that the Giants may be on the verge of signing 16-year-old Dominican prospect Wagner Mateo. A deal could be finalized "within [the] next couple of weeks."
Mateo was originally signed by St. Louis in June to a contract with a $3.1MM signing bonus, but the deal was voided by the club in September after medical tests revealed that the young outfielder was suffering from vision problems. The entire situation is nicely detailed in this piece by Joe Strauss of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, noting that Mateo's signing was an impressive victory for the Cardinals' rebuilt Latin American scouting operations.
In a tweet from last June, Arangure said that San Francisco came closest to signing Mateo away from St. Louis' grasp in the first place, but got "cold feet" offering a bonus of $3.5MM. The Cards and Giants were two of several teams interested in the highly-regarded young outfielder.
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I would like to know more about the extent of his vision related problems. That aside, bring him on in. We need all the top tier positional prospects we can get...especially after losing Angel to his murder charges.
Posted by: Humm Baby | October 21, 2009 at 08:25 PM
If his problems are as bad as STL said they were, why would SF take him? Something is strange here.
Posted by: cardinalsnation4 | October 21, 2009 at 08:26 PM
He's playing this weekend in the WWBA tournament in Jupiter, FL with the Texas Scout Team Yankees if anyone's interested. I bet San Francisco signs him soon after the weekend if he does well, as that team is one of the main competitors in the tournament, and they'll have a good read on how he stands up against top U.S. prospects. He's on the same team as Jameson Taillon, Josh Sale, and Brian Ragira to name a few top players.
Posted by: ASeiler | October 21, 2009 at 08:52 PM
What, St. Louis couldn't afford to give the kid some laser eye surgery or some glasses? Brian McCann had eye troubles and they didn't bitch or moan about it. Sorry to be so harsh, but vision problems can be easily dealt with in this day and age, unless the kid is literally going blind, in which case such a thing would be reported and we'd all know.
Posted by: BaseballFan0707 | October 21, 2009 at 10:55 PM
Actually it makes perfect sense. Our same doctors that cleared Freddy Sanchez cleared Mateo. Hello Dr. Nick. Hello Brian Sabean.
Posted by: 000000 | October 21, 2009 at 10:56 PM
how nasty is this kid really? I just don't know a lot about him, is he a can't miss gonna be superstar player?
Posted by: Price14 | October 22, 2009 at 12:15 AM
alotta questions what position does he play? how good? how much 4 contract? is he worth it? alotta questions i hoe we sign him and he's the new willie mays
Posted by: giantspandaman24 | October 22, 2009 at 01:10 AM
Wagner is a good baseball name. That I know. Will he ever be a ML outfielder, or is he worth a couple million dollars? He's "16" years old, so it's anyone's flipping guess.
Posted by: kdub | October 22, 2009 at 01:48 AM
It's too bad that he's on the same team as Tallion, that would be a great showdown of elite young talent.
And the problem with Mateo is that his vision problems is rather significant. Even with contacts or glasses on, he still only has 20/30 vision in one eye, and when you're trying to differentiate between a 94 MPH fastball and a 84 MPH slider, that can be a problem.
Maybe when he gets older they could try Lasik eye surgery, but that's a risky procedure to do on someone who just turned 16.
And I think that he makes sense for the Giants. Between Mateo and Rafael Rodriguez, the Giants could have a couple of sick five-tool prospects if those guys develop properly.
Posted by: scribbletone | October 22, 2009 at 08:38 AM
That is one things I've been wondering about since I saw the Tweet: why did the Giants have to bid $3.5M when the Cardinals bid $3.1M? Is there a rule governing the next bid?
Plus, I'm no optometrist or opthamologist, but why couldn't his vision be corrected to better than 20/30? I'm, like, blind (20/600?) but wore contacts for years and I was able to read down to what I thought was 20/20 on the chart when the doctor had me looking at it. But yeah, vision sometimes gets worse for short-sighted people as they age to middle age, though mine has been pretty steady until lately when they begun needing bi-focals.
Lastly, I lost interest in Wagner once the Cards "signed" him, is there a good scouting report on him somewhere? Thanks.
Posted by: obsessivegiantscompulsive | October 22, 2009 at 09:36 AM
Oh, and I would note that the historical success rate of the top signing bonus babies from Latin America is more Wily Mo Pena and Jose Guzman than Miguel Cabrera.
So I would say, instead, that between Wagner and Rodriguez, the Giants have a better chance of developing a five-tool outfielder but it is still no slamdunk.
So far, so good on Rafael, he was ranked in the Top 20 for his level by BA this past season, but still no power yet, but good discipline (16W/22K in 128 AB), plus his hitting greatly improved in his last two months after a very poor first week or so. Oddly, he played mostly in LF, not RF, which he was signed as.
Posted by: obsessivegiantscompulsive | October 22, 2009 at 09:45 AM
Of course it's no slam dunk, but these guys come relatively cheap compared to the potential returns, and if you keep gathering up these kind of high-upside prospects, eventually a few are going to pan out into pretty nice players.
Posted by: scribbletone | October 22, 2009 at 09:48 AM
Sorry, I figured you would know this, just wanted to note it for those not as familiar with Latin bonus babies.
Posted by: obsessivegiantscompulsive | October 22, 2009 at 10:17 AM
Laser eye surgery isn't "risky" in a health sense for a 16 year old. There is no difference in the procedure for a 16 year old and a 96 year old. The problem is that vision can continue to decrease at 16 years old, and the surgery would have to be done several more times as the vision decreases over the subsequent years.
Posted by: JT | October 22, 2009 at 03:00 PM
I think at this point, even a semi-blind 16 yo is an upgrade over Lewis... haha
Seriously though we've stock piled pitchers into our system and are at a good point in terms of depth... now we need some hitters and we should jump on any prospects that show signs of someday being a 5 tool guy and play the law of averages.
Posted by: Lincecum_Says_GSP | October 22, 2009 at 11:32 PM
Too bad the Giants gave away the top end of that depth for garbage. I guess we owe the Pirates for stealing away Jason Schmidt from them. Here's to hoping Bumgarner is the real deal.
Posted by: recca | October 24, 2009 at 01:57 AM