Johnny Damon Rumors: Friday

7:15pm: Morosi and Ken Rosenthal at FOX Sports provide another Damon update, writing that the Tigers' offer to the outfielder could be worth up to about $7.5MM, with some of it deferred. They acknowledge that it's anyone's guess where the 36-year-old lands, suggesting that the Rays and Braves could still be under-the-radar players for Damon.

5:36pm: Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports reports (via Twitter) that, according to Dombrowski, Williams' comments will not affect the Tigers' approach to Damon.

5:00pm: Let's not rule the White Sox out completely. Williams told Joe Cowley of the Chicago Sun-Times that Damon has until Sunday morning to take the team's last offer.

4:27pm: Williams told Mark Gonzales of the Chicago Tribune that Damon and Boras were willing to be creative (Twitter link). Ultimately, Williams says "the total dollars and cents didn't make sense" for the White Sox.

3:41pm: ESPN.com's Buster Olney hears that Scott Boras wants two things from the Tigers. First, he's asking them to remove all deferred money from the one-year $7MM deal they have offered. Second, he wants the Tigers to add a second year (Twitter links).

3:26pm: The White Sox have pulled their offer to Damon, reports Bruce Levine of ESPNChicago.com. White Sox GM Kenny Williams said he had to withdraw it.

"It became clear to us in our recent negotiations that the money that we were offering was not going to be good enough for Johnny at this time," Williams said.

Williams said the White Sox are "very much interested in" Damon. Levine hears that the White Sox offered him $6MM. Levine's sources tell him that the Tigers never offered a two-year deal; they have only offered a one-year $7MM contract.

9:29am: Tigers GM Dave Dombrowski went public with his interest in Johnny Damon yesterday, confirming to Patrick Zier of the Lakeland Ledger that he's offered Damon a contract.  Dombrowski would not discuss the particulars of the offer, though a source of Zier's "would be very surprised if it's for more than one year."

As you know, Scot Gregor of the Daily Herald finds the White Sox an unlikely landing spot for Damon given GM Kenny Williams' plan to "talk about this on Sunday."

ESPN's Buster Olney spoke to one executive involved in Damon talks in recent months who said, "There is so much BS out there, and [I] don't want to contribute to it."


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115 Comments on "Johnny Damon Rumors: Friday"


lefty58
5 years 6 months ago

This is an awful lot of hype for a guy who really isn’t very good.
It does give you an idea of how desperate these two teams are, the Sox will probably be one of the worst offensive teams again this year and are bad enough that a guy like Damon is a huge difference maker for them.

JoeDog10
5 years 6 months ago

Damon isn’t the great player that he once was, but he’s still a pretty damn good player. He would be a huge difference maker for both the Sox and the Tigers, not because they are bad teams, but because they both have particular holes that he would fill perfectly.

Rich_in_NJ
5 years 6 months ago

Actually, he is coming off his best offensive season according to OPS+. It’s his defense that appears to have declined, and is limiting his value.

JoeDog10
5 years 6 months ago

Correct, which is why as a White Sox fan, I still see him going to Detroit because he is going to be playing the field most every day. I can’t see him wanting to go to Chicago for less money and a near full-time DH role, even though I don’t think he really wants to be in Detroit.

Detroitchik
5 years 6 months ago

if Damon signs here, don’t count on him being in the OF almost everyday either. He’ll slpit that role with our other non-throwing player, Carlos Guillen who will whine if Damon is in LF everyday. Look for him to share the DH role between himself Carlos and Maggs and look for Ryan Raburn to be out there in either LF RF or CF, often

soxluv
5 years 6 months ago

Which is why he would DH for the Sox.

icedrake523
5 years 6 months ago

Look at his home/road splits.

Home: .279/.382/.533/.915/136 OPS+
Away: .284/.349/.446/.795/117 OPS+

He’s lucky any team is interested in him. Look at his hit chart for further proof. Only 1 of his 17 HRs at Yankee stadium didn’t go to straight RF.

http://mlb.mlb.com/stats/individual_player_hitting_chart.jsp?c_id=mlb&playerID=113028&statType=1

His 2009 stats are a creation of new Yankee Stadium. The Yankees are the only team who would have gotten their money’s worth out of signing him.

striker
5 years 6 months ago

I think the hot stove hype contributes to the soap opera. We all love the rumors and Damon is one of the few big names out there left, so for some reason we care. You are right though, we are talking about a 1-2yr $5-$7M contract. You’d think with all the hype it would be a 5 yr $100M contract. Johnny Damon is now our Brittany Spears. And next week we’ll have a new one.

the_show
5 years 6 months ago

what nonsense, Damon is coming off of one of his best offensive seasons

5 years 6 months ago

hes not good so go back to the yankees, i mean yankees can drop winn and thames

ptitolo
5 years 6 months ago

Damon clearly must be realizing his “value” isnt quite what Boras had envisioned… Hopefully Damon now understands it wasn’t that the Yankees didn’t value his production enough to offer him only a “low-ball” deal, but rather they were offering him the exact market price for his services at 2yrs/14 mil.. Unless he signs for more, he’ll regret not sucking it up and remaining a Yankee.

This is the problem with 35+ yr old DH/1B/corner outfielders… they’re out of style with GMs, who value defense, youth, and cost over big names who can swing a bat (Dye, Delgado, Matsui, Big Papi (if he wasn’t still under contract), etc.) This all started when Bonds couldn’t find work for league minimum… really opened up GMs’ eyes to what they were willing to pay for

lougehrig
5 years 6 months ago

Thank god the yanks got out of this mess!

Rich_in_NJ
5 years 6 months ago

In the words of the old Emerson, Lake, and Palmer song: “Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends.”

Guest
5 years 6 months ago

Maybe the reason Kenny Williams wont discuss it until sunday is because they gave Damon a deadline. The Yankees should hop back in at the last minute.

thebigdog
5 years 6 months ago

No more “lift clean and replace” for Tiger.

jhawk90
5 years 6 months ago

More like no more “leaving the phone lying around”

verlander
5 years 6 months ago

//ESPN’s Buster Olney spoke to one executive involved in Damon talks in recent months who said, “There is so much BS out there, and [I] don’t want to contribute to it.//

Probably the best thing I’ve heard out of all the Damon drama. 😛

DarthVader87
5 years 6 months ago

Waiting to see the Cavaliers in on this at this point.

leviticus6688
5 years 6 months ago

Olney follows by asking Boras about Damon, who replies,

“There’s so much BS out there, and I’d absolutely love to contribute.”

jhawk90
5 years 6 months ago

Who?

dtownwarrior
5 years 6 months ago

Whatta ya know, alot of the same junk we have heard for the last two weeks. And what I really don’t understand is a few of the sportswriters in Chicago. Why does “I will discuss this Sunday” mean that the Tigers are the favorite to sign him? Is Scott Gregor always such a moron with his assumptions, someone in Chicago let me know? I hope Damon realizes that with all the hype that Boras has caused, the microscope will be on him even that much more and if he gets off to a bad start, I really feel for him. I also wonder if the timing of Dave Dombrowski coming out and admitting that the organization has indeed made an offer has something to do with luring him one way or the other. I have never actually heard DD say anything about an offer before it actually gets signed, so maybe this is a ploy or a hard stance to get Damon to make up his mind. But just like everything else with this BS soap opera, I will just say “who the **** knows!!!”

the_show
5 years 6 months ago

Not really that familiar with Gregor but i really think he is just guessing and his logic really doesn’t add up. I tend to agree with your thesis that Damon hasn’t decided one way or another.

soxluv
5 years 6 months ago

He said he was just guessing. To his credit he was the only one who got any statement from Williams.

danks50
5 years 6 months ago

I’m still under the assumption that Detroit will probably throw briefcases of money at him and sign him but the assumptions that alot of the Chicago/Detroit writers have thrown out there really makes me wonder about the shotty quality of their work. From KW saying he’ll talk about it on Sunday to a empty locker at the Tigers spring training facility they have basically made one ridiculous assumption after another and they write like a bunch of giddy fans/failed insiders instead of professional reporters.

Joe_Mayo
5 years 6 months ago

Behind the veteran leadership of Phil Rogers, the baseball reporters of Chicago publications are a sorry bunch, particularly so for White Sox fans. The Daily Herald is typically not a source of breaking White Sox news.

RedbirdRuffian
5 years 6 months ago

Johnny/Scott B have to be holding out for the absolute best contract they can get. MLB really has two markets; Yanks/Red Sox/LA teams/Cubs and then everyone else. Once the Yanks passed on Damon, and the others mentioned don’t have a need; no one else is going to pay more than $10 million a season for a 36 year old who hit 285 last season. Even if he did hit more than 20 homers, that was in the new stadium. Don’t feel sorry for the guy, he is a millionaire many times over just trying to do the best he can at the ned of his career. If he was a lifelong Yankee like Jeter he would have received the offer he wanted even though as is obvious there is no market for him at the salary level he is used to. We won’t have this issue with Jeter next winter, because even though he will also be a 36 year old at the end of his career with no market for his services at his salary demands, the Yanks will grossly overpay him and they will all live happily ever after.

the_show
5 years 6 months ago

Nobody was going to give 10 million a year as Boras is finding out. Also baseball markets are defined by big market, middle market, and small market, not five clubs and everybody else. Also your big market list is a bit short.

jwsox
5 years 6 months ago

the only reason he fits on the white sox is to add another left handed bat wth some pop that the sox need. Although I would bet anyone a full season of Jones as DH/OF would offer more home runs than a full season of damon not in the wind tunnel known as Yankee Stadium. Dont get me wrong it would be cool to see damon in a white sox uni. I think he could be a productive hitter and if anything a nice stop gap for Jordan Danks to be ready enough to move Carlos to full time DH but the more i think about it I would rather see the 10 time glod gloves former home run champ in Jones as the DH than Damon. Remember The dodgers are paying jones 18 mill to not play for them and Kenny is paying only 500K…Jones said he wants to fight for a starting job and i saw a recent pic of the guy he lost a ton of weight and might, just might get a starting stop and more Juan to DH….Sorry Johnny if this was 2 months ago then heck yeah be a white sox player…but not any more….AND the only reason teh sox had one of the worst offenses last year was injuries and the decline of JD and thome which was expected, thats what happens when guys get old

hrbomber1113
5 years 6 months ago

You really think the ghost of Andruw Jones would outperform Damon…..REALLY??? Not to mention, yes Johnny hit a lot of home runs at Yankee Stadium last year but your ball park isn’t exactly Petco. And why would the 10 gold gloves matter if you want him to DH. He is a joke of his former self. All you have to do is throw a cupcake or a slider 2 feet off the plate and he flails at it. He’s done. And what do you expect him to say? I’m living off my former reputation to get major league deals and i don’t want to really get a starting job? Of course he’s going to say he wants to fight for a job. And if you want to discount what Damon did in NY, how come Andruw playing in a much better hitters park in Texas gets the benefit of the doubt? And you realize if the reason your offense was bad last year was because of the decline of Dye and Thome, then it’s going to be much worse without them in it at all and giving the AB’s to Pierre and Jones. Not wanting Johnny Damon is ok if you don’t like the soap opera but not wanting him because you want Andruw Jones to get the bulk of AB’s is ridiculous. And what nobody seems to realize is Damon can still steal you 25-30 bases on top of 15-20 hrs. The reason he stole less last year was he was in the 2hole because Jeter grounds into too many double plays and they left the hole for Teixeira and didn’t want to run when Tex Arod could easily drive him in with a HR or double. He didn’t lose a step and didn’t get caught all of last year.

nick613
5 years 6 months ago

Just sign the 1-yr 7mill deal and get this over already. The Tigers won’t need him next year with Jackson, Wilken, and Casper Wells.

brovos
5 years 6 months ago

In a perfect world the best thing that could happen is that Damon not get an offer from any team and have to sit out the whole season while Boras eats a big fat piece of humble pie.

BravesRed
5 years 6 months ago

Damon, say hello to the Tigers or the Braves.

5 years 6 months ago

Sorry to break it to you but the Braves have been out of it for a while.

BravesRed
5 years 6 months ago

I want the proof that says Braves are out of it.

NYBravosFan10
5 years 6 months ago

the only proof that I am gonna accept is when they introduce him and you see him and his goofy smile holding a jersey up

csg
5 years 6 months ago

I liked the Damon addition to the braves for maybe $2-3 mil, but nothing more than that. He’s not worth $5mil to an NL club. Boras has also taken all teams out of the bidding except for the Tigers. No reason why they would have to offer a second year. Let him retire

the_show
5 years 6 months ago

good grief, what a joke….give him the extra 1 million Kenny

5 years 6 months ago

Right, why I never get too excited for a potential free agent signing that’s been picked up by the media, Kenny rarely if ever gets his man in these situations.

Guest
5 years 6 months ago

Scott Boras should also want his players to be happy. If he did, Damon would already be a Yankee.

jhawk90
5 years 6 months ago

Atta boy Johnny – there’s always work at the post office!

5 years 6 months ago

Scott Boras must be high.