Oliver Perez Trade Ideas

After a look at our Bad Contract Swap Meet post, let's put on our speculating cap and try to find a trade that would work for the Mets and Oliver Perez.

Perez is owed $20.2MM through 2011.  He refused the Mets' minor league assignment and isn't helping the big league team.  Not only is he a project, he's one that must be tinkered with in the Majors.

Gary Matthews Jr.'s contract qualifies as equally bad, but he's already on the Mets.  A couple of Perez trade ideas:

  • Perez and $8.8MM to the Brewers for Jeff Suppan.  Suppan has $10.6MM left on his contract.  The Mets save $800K here, about $500K beyond what they'd get back if they released Perez and he signed elsewhere.  From the Brewers' point of view Perez at least has more upside than Suppan.  The lefty would be reunited with pitching coach Rick Peterson, who was Perez's guide during the pitcher's initial Mets resurgence.  The Brewers might require assurance that Perez would accept a minor league assignment in 2011 if necessary.
  • Perez and $10.5MM to the Royals for Jose Guillen and Kyle Farnsworth.  Guillen is owed $8.2MM, Farnsworth $3.6MM.  This scenario has the Mets taking on $2.1MM to acquire Guillen and Farnsworth, about $550K of which covers what the Royals might get after releasing the two players. 


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91 Comments on "Oliver Perez Trade Ideas"


5 years 3 months ago

Ollie Perez for Dontrelle Willis.

5 years 3 months ago

Willis-Perez doesn’t make sense because of the extra year, even if the Mets paid the contract. Tigers are clearing spots for younger players (lots of contracts off the books after this year) or adding guys who can help. Perez doesn’t qualify as either.

gigantes2425
5 years 3 months ago

i think the only thing that can fix this is if the mets had the mafia take care of it.

5 years 3 months ago

Oliver Perez had a brief window of dominance when he showed flashes of his capability. Mets pitching coach Rick Peterson had an important role in his success. Peterson kept close watch on Ollie’s mechanics and was able to suggest correction whenever the wheels started to come off (I believe Peterson was able to identify Ollie’s correct release point and then coached the catcher to remind him so he didn’t have to make mound visits). Ollie has not been the same pitcher under the run-of-the-mill Dan Warthen. Warthen doesn’t even have a kernel of a clue as to how Ollie could be a successful MLB pitcher.When Ollie’s shoulder was flying out, the velocity on his fastball tanked and he was unable to throw his wicked slider for strikes. Ollie, for the duration of his pitching under Warthen’s (ahem) watchful eye, has exhibited the characteristics of an improper release point.

Yankees420
5 years 3 months ago

If the Mets paid his 2nd year then the Tigers could simply release him.

gigantes2425
5 years 3 months ago

perez for zito straight up. haha.

Sampsonite168
5 years 3 months ago

Problem is Guillen & Suppan are both on their walk years whereas Ollie has another year on his deal after this. Gil Meche, Carlos Silva and Milton Bradley are really the only bad players with contracts similar to Ollie’s (2 years, $20-25M remaining on their deal). And GMJ, but oh wait, the Mets somehow traded for him without sending any bad contracts the other way.

Otherwise you could try and get creative and see if you get two guys who suck and add up to $12M per year for this season and next. Like Juan Pierre and Scott Linebrink from the White Sox, although the little value Linebrink has is probably still worth more than Ollie. Would probably still have to send a prospect or two in any deal to make it worthwhile.

5 years 3 months ago

If the money is equal, I don’t see why the additional year is a problem. Let’s say the Mets send $8.8MM plus Perez to Milwaukee, per Tim’s idea. Effectively, the Brewers would get Oliver Perez for $800k in 2011 — which is great if he’s even close to decent, and negligible if he sucks (you’d be able to release him w/o pause at that amount).

Sampsonite168
5 years 3 months ago

But why would anybody want Oliver Perez on their team for another year? He basically turns your team into a 24 man roster at this point. If your a manager it’s like your playing a board game and you land on a space and pick up a card and it says “Oliver Perez: Lose 1 Roster Spot”

And it’s pretty obvious at this point between Ollie and Castillo that the Wilpons would rather kill themselves than eat money on a contract. They wont even cut GMJ because they owe him a whopping $1M next year.

5 years 2 months ago

Then you release him and soak up the $800k hit. BFD.

5 years 3 months ago

ollie and some money for javy?

aap212
5 years 3 months ago

Why would the Yankees do that?

AisoRed
5 years 3 months ago

There is no way we are going to pay for another year of a bad pitcher. Suppan is out after this year and that will be that.

Sage
5 years 3 months ago

Don’t forget, the Mets would be sending us the money to pay for his contract next year. We’d only be paying him $800K next year. We can just cut him if he’s bad, and we wouldn’t have to eat much salary. I don’t see why we shouldn’t at least consider this. Who knows, maybe he’d be good again with Rick Peterson.

AisoRed
5 years 3 months ago

So we’d be paying nearly 1 million for a pitcher who is as bad as Suppan and basically is taking up a roster spot. No thanks.

5 years 3 months ago

It is not a risky gamble for the Brewers. Having watched Peterson resurrect Ollie’s career, I believe (barring injury) he’ll be able to get Ollie back as a good middle of the rotation guy.

Guest
5 years 3 months ago

Perez for Buster Posey, CMON NO BRAINER.

gigantes2425
5 years 3 months ago

sabean might pull the trigger on that one.

Hubbs2
5 years 3 months ago

Perez for Rowand straight up and i’d do it as a giants fan.

ReverendBlack
5 years 3 months ago

“Gary Matthews Jr.’s contract qualifies as equally bad, but he’s already on the Mets. ”

A+

5 years 3 months ago

or meche for ollie and eddie kunz

aap212
5 years 3 months ago

Why would KC do that?

5 years 3 months ago

eddie kunz is a b prospect and meche is doing awful, so they swap bad contracts and get someone who could be decent in their horrific pen

aap212
5 years 3 months ago

Meche is better, was better last year, and is a bet I’d rather take going forward than Perez.

Kunz is not a B prospect. He’s a 24 year-old getting his posterior handed to him in Double-A, and having gotten it handed to him in Triple-A last year, with painfully ugly peripherals.

5 years 3 months ago

If i were KC, id take my chances with meche getting through his injury

counciltucky
5 years 3 months ago

Oliver Perez to the Pirates for an authentic John Van Benschoten signed baseball.

aap212
5 years 3 months ago

I don’t think the Pirates have one of those. If that’s the return, it raises a question: Why would John Van Benschoten’s parents want to acquire Oliver Perez?

counciltucky
5 years 3 months ago

Three-way trade involving a pet goldfish?

aap212
5 years 3 months ago

At least the goldfish still has options. He wouldn’t clog up the 25 man roster.

Sweet Jesus, I’d rather have a pet goldfish than Oliver Perez. FML.

rockiesfan_303
5 years 3 months ago

I can see that Brewers trade happening but no one else but Peterson will want to have to coach this guy.

powertech84
5 years 3 months ago

The brewers would come out smelling like roses after that deal because soup still has a 2 million buyout for next year.

5 years 3 months ago

I think Tim built that (and perhaps the $300k Suppan gets if traded) into the math.

5 years 3 months ago

I can’t see the Mets taking two players for Ollie, unless they save a sizable amount of cash in the deal. Taking on two players means that you have to option/DFA someone, and the Mets have already shown little interest in doing that.

In the case of Guillen and Farnsworth: This is a terrible option for the Mets. They end up spending money while a guy they have no room for on the roster (Guillen) in order to get a year of Farnsworth and an extra roster spot in 2011. Given the team’s insistence that Gary Matthews Jr. stay on board because he can play CF (heh), the net result would be that the team would be paying nearly $2MM to downgrade from Chris Carter to Guillen.

gigantes2425
5 years 3 months ago

they should just give him to the phillies and offer to pay his contract. so the mets know the phillies will lose every 5th day and they can attempt to come back this year.

5 years 3 months ago

ollie p for edgar renteria

gigantes2425
5 years 3 months ago

yes…if this was last year.

aap212
5 years 3 months ago

“Gary Matthews Jr.’s contract qualifies as equally bad, but he’s already on the Mets.”

And therein lies the beauty of Omar Minaya. But seriously, if you ever read Dan Savage’s column, his advice to many people with problematic lovers is DTMFA (dump the mf already). That’s what Minaya needs to do. Don’t take on a new problem. Cut bait.

5 years 3 months ago

If the return for Oliver Perez is Jeff Suppan, Jose Guillen, or Kyle Farnsworth, what’s even the point of making the trade–I’d rather just cut him and eat his contract.

As is for all the above mentioned players, it’s beyond their contracts that make them bad–it’s the roster spot they take up which is the real waste.

Obviously the Silva/Bradley trade worked out well for the Cubs, but most bad contract deals don’t result like that.

nictonjr
5 years 3 months ago

Isn’t Oliver Perez just eating a roster spot??? If the Mets aren’t willing to bite the bullet and waive Perez his presence hurts the team beyond his pitching.

Assuming major leaguers, and Ollie, get paid on the 1st and 15th each month during the season, Ollie gets $1,000,000 tomorrow. Plus per diem??…

5 years 3 months ago

I agree–which is why swapping him for a similar player is pointless. That roster spot could go to someone who could remotely help the team as opposed to negatively affect the team.

bannister19
5 years 3 months ago

The Royals get rid of 11.8 and take on 9.7…The 2MM saved is nice, but I don’t think the Royals would do that.

First of all, we have Meche who has his own walk issued problems and a big contract.

Next, the money owed to Gullien and Farnsworth expire after this year. Next year, we’re free of Cruz, Willie, Farnsworth, and Jose. I don’t see the Royals adding another bad pitcher to keep payroll only 2MM higher while costing an extra year.

Third, why would the Royals take on Perez? He would be useless in an AL Club. He was always one of my least favorite liked players in the majors, even when he did solid, and he would be virtually useless as a Royal, unless we save the 2MM then release him. Thats not all a bad idea.

Finally, though finding a suitor for Gullien is very important, hopefully at the deadline, Jose has been our best power bat, and Kyle has been our best bullpen arm all season. That simple. Not that it creates much trade value for either, but we’re on the losing side of the deal, even with the 2MM saved. If we release Perez, we’ll have to purchase the major league contract of two other players, whether it will be good because it may be somebody like Ka’aihue and Bullington or Osuna, we’re still going to be paying them about 1MM, and in effect saving 1MM. [Though, the idea of saving money, getting rid of Gullien, and getting Kila up here sound awesome :)..but personally, I don’t think Perez will be released, at least through this year, if he were traded to KC. Other than the 1MM net savings, we get nothing at all. (While, it’s a great trade for the Mets. Two people coming off solid halfs in the AL)

5 years 3 months ago

perez for lowell

5 years 3 months ago

The Red Sox like Lowell’s “flexibility.” Plus, Oliver Perez pitching the AL East is a joke.

Nicolas_C
5 years 3 months ago

As for Lowell’s “flexibility”, I don’t think he can touch his toes with his fingers

5 years 3 months ago

Agreed, thus the quotes. But the fact that he can hit, makes him more valuable than Perez, who doesn’t deserve to have the “er” after “pitch” attached to his supposed role.

Nicolas_C
5 years 3 months ago

Yea, I knew you meant something similar to that. They say there’s no “BB” in “pitcher” but for Ollie there is.

East Coast Bias
5 years 3 months ago

Well, to be fair, there is no “K” either.

5 years 3 months ago

I’m not sure that it’ll come through trade but I believe the only thing the Mets are going to get for Perez is about $300,000 salary relief when someone picks him up after his release. Detroit bit the bullet on Willis and Perez isn’t really a better option than he is at this point. The Brewers/Suppan deal probably makes some sense as long as it doesn’t end up costing the Brewers additional payroll. If Peterson could get Perez right then it could be a good deal for them. The Mets really have to start thinking of Perez as a sunk cost at this point and just try to cut their loses.

RiverKKiller999
5 years 3 months ago

Just him to the royals for farnsworth… lol