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Phillies Prioritizing Starting Pitching Depth

By Ben Nicholson-Smith | June 28, 2010 at 3:31pm CDT

The Phillies are prioritizing starting pitching depth this trade deadline, according to ESPN.com's Buster Olney (via Twitter). They are looking to add a middle-of-the-rotation starter, probably someone better than Jeremy Guthrie. Few available starters short of Cliff Lee– the Phillies' biggest 2009 acquisition- and Roy Oswalt are definitively better than Guthrie, but arms like Fausto Carmona, Edwin Jackson and Brett Myers could be fits – at least in theory.

It seems unlikely that the D'Backs would trade Jackson in the near future, since he no-hit the Rays over the weekend. Myers is having an excellent season in Houston, but there's no guarantee that Ruben Amaro Jr. would be interested in bringing him back to Philadelphia so soon after the sides parted ways.

Another former Phillie, Pedro Martinez, plans to pitch in 2010, but he wouldn't be ready for major league action without weeks in the minor leagues. The Phillies maintain that they're not close to bringing Pedro back. 

Roy Halladay has been one of the best pitchers in the National League, Cole Hamels has pitched well, though he has been homer-prone and Jamie Moyer has been reliable. Joe Blanton pitched well against the Twins and Indians in his last two starts, but he and Kyle Kendrick have been Charlie Manuel's least reliable starters in 2010.

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  1. Gregory L. Vince

    15 years ago

    Peter Gammons keeps bringing up Ben Sheets and the Phillies as well.

    Reply
    • azzalinam

      15 years ago

      Did you read this somewhere or hear it on MLB Network? I don’t get the channel where I live. If you read it, can you send the link?

      Reply
  2. crise

    15 years ago

    I wonder how good they’d be with a guy like Cliff Lee. Geez, I mean, I bet once they got ahold of a pitcher like that they’d ride him to a World Series title and never let go. (ahem)

    Reply
  3. Infield Fly

    15 years ago

    Hmm….certainly not implied here, but perhaps this means the Mets could have some competition for Ted Lilly from within the division.

    Reply
    • dylanp5030

      15 years ago

      I read somewhere that Charlie and Ted Lilly are friends…so it could be a possibility.

      Reply
  4. Matt

    15 years ago

    Don’t forget that the Phillies will be getting J.A. Happ back soon as well. If he can be anywhere close to the pitcher he was in 2009, they’ll be in good shape. If Blanton can figure it out, or Kendrick can be consistent with mediocrity, the Phillies rotation should be okay.

    Reply
  5. frank_costanza

    15 years ago

    Unless they acquire a legitimate #3 starter like Brett Myers, then there is no need for them to add anyone. they already have the Jeremy Guthries of the world in Kendrick and Blanton. Happ is going to be back by August, and Moyer, Halladay, and Hamels have all been outstanding. I really dont even see the need to add another arm.

    Reply
  6. Six_Eight

    15 years ago

    Hey stop dissing Guthrie! How are we supposed to get quality talent back in trade if you keep knocking him?

    Reply
  7. Justin Klugh

    15 years ago

    Mmmm. You’re not.

    Reply
  8. Joe Scarpone

    15 years ago

    Myers? LOL

    Reply
    • frank_costanza

      15 years ago

      Yes, Brett Myers. The Brett Myers who has gone at least 6 innings in every one of his starts this year and has an ERA of 3.20… that Brett Myers.

      Reply
      • ejr

        15 years ago

        also the Brett Myers who has an ERA that’s 1 point higher on the road than in Houston? (Although also has a WHIP of 1.28 vs. the 1.44 at home). I can’t figure out if Myers is just the same mediocre pitcher or just really suited for pitching in Minute Maid park…

        Reply
        • frank_costanza

          15 years ago

          im willing to say he is a better pitcher. he is healthy for the first time in 2 years and the Astros arent trying to make him something he isnt. The phillies kept making him try to throw a change up which he just couldnt do. now he is fastball, slider, curveball and having a bunch of success.and also Minute Maid park is no easy park to pitch it, center field is like 430 but the corners are pretty short. so that counts for something.

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          • Phils4everfaithful

            15 years ago

            Myers is pitching with no pressure on a terrible team. Bring him back to Philly and you’ll see the same erratic pitcher all over again. No question that help is needed (one great starter and 4 question marks won’t win you a championship), but Myers isn’t the answer. If we can somehow rectify the mistake of letting Lee go by getting him back, that would be by far the best option….

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          • Phils4everfaithful

            15 years ago

            Myers is pitching with no pressure on a terrible team. Bring him back to Philly and you’ll see the same erratic pitcher all over again. No question that help is needed (one great starter and 4 question marks won’t win you a championship), but Myers isn’t the answer. If we can somehow rectify the mistake of letting Lee go by getting him back, that would be by far the best option….

            Reply
        • frank_costanza

          15 years ago

          im willing to say he is a better pitcher. he is healthy for the first time in 2 years and the Astros arent trying to make him something he isnt. The phillies kept making him try to throw a change up which he just couldnt do. now he is fastball, slider, curveball and having a bunch of success.and also Minute Maid park is no easy park to pitch it, center field is like 430 but the corners are pretty short. so that counts for something.

          Reply
      • ejr

        15 years ago

        also the Brett Myers who has an ERA that’s 1 point higher on the road than in Houston? (Although also has a WHIP of 1.28 vs. the 1.44 at home). I can’t figure out if Myers is just the same mediocre pitcher or just really suited for pitching in Minute Maid park…

        Reply
  9. ejr

    15 years ago

    I think they should trade Werth for Lee straight up, bring Dominic Brown up, and see what kind of magic happens.

    Reply
    • bardos

      15 years ago

      is there a team in MBL that i NOT prioritizing starting pitching?

      Reply
      • bardos

        15 years ago

        is there a team in MBL that is NOT prioritizing starting pitching?

        Reply
  10. Phillies29

    15 years ago

    i think the phils should trade for lee. myers is ok, but remember last year, cliff lee leadin the phils to the world series. he brought the only 2 wins in the world series. imagin have the #1 bein Roy Halladay, #2 bein Cliff Lee, #3 bein Cole Hamels, #4 (in august) J.A. Happ #5 Pedro Martinez. That is a pretty stacked rotation.

    Reply
  11. Phillies29

    15 years ago

    i think the phils should trade for lee. myers is ok, but remember last year, cliff lee leadin the phils to the world series. he brought the only 2 wins in the world series. imagin have the #1 bein Roy Halladay, #2 bein Cliff Lee, #3 bein Cole Hamels, #4 (in august) J.A. Happ #5 Pedro Martinez. That is a pretty stacked rotation.

    Reply
  12. Phillies29

    15 years ago

    i think the phils should trade for lee. myers is ok, but remember last year, cliff lee leadin the phils to the world series. he brought the only 2 wins in the world series. imagin have the #1 bein Roy Halladay, #2 bein Cliff Lee, #3 bein Cole Hamels, #4 (in august) J.A. Happ #5 Pedro Martinez. That is a pretty stacked rotation.

    Reply
  13. Phillies29

    15 years ago

    i think the phils should trade for lee. myers is ok, but remember last year, cliff lee leadin the phils to the world series. he brought the only 2 wins in the world series. imagin have the #1 bein Roy Halladay, #2 bein Cliff Lee, #3 bein Cole Hamels, #4 (in august) J.A. Happ #5 Pedro Martinez. That is a pretty stacked rotation.

    Reply

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