Boras Compares Fielder To Teixeira

TUESDAY: ESPN's Buster Olney spoke to multiple GMs who are scared of Fielder's body type.  Throw in the potential for Adrian Gonzalez and Albert Pujols to join him on the free agent market, and Fielder may struggle to approach Teixeira's deal.  Olney says Scott Boras "made it clear [to the Brewers] that he expects to get more for Fielder than the seven years and $169 million owed to Ryan Howard at the outset of this season."

MONDAY: Just in case any doubt remained, agent Scott Boras made it clear that Prince Fielder won’t be giving the Brewers a hometown discount. Boras told Tom Haudricourt of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel that Prince is a “rare, rare commodity” and suggested that the first baseman could be headed for a Hall of Fame career. Most ominous of all for Brewers fans was the player to whom Boras compared Fielder.

“When you have a player that performs like Mark Teixeira, you have to look at Prince Fielder’s performance in comparison,” Boras said. “You want to know the value of a player? Take a look at it.”

One glance at Teixeira’s eight-year $180MM suggests that Fielder won’t come cheap when he hits free agency after the 2011 season. Haudricourt hears from rival agents that the Brewers offered a five-year deal worth just over $100MM. That’s a substantial offer for the mid-market Brewers, but Boras suggests $180MM isn’t as expensive as it sounds.

“If you look at Mark Teixeira’s contract, he made the Yankees money,” Boras said. “How many teams would take on Mark Teixeira’s contract? I would say 20. The reason is it’s good business to do that. Those players are invaluable.”

Fielder, 26, has 20 homers and a league-leading 61 walks. He has posted a .265/.401/.494 line this year, just short of his career .927 OPS. There’s no question that Fielder will command a substantial contract, and Boras suggests he could surpass Teixeira's deal.

“Prince is a home-run hitter,” Boras said. “He’s 70 home runs ahead of Teixeira at that point [of his career]. Prince has much more power. This is how you [measure] performance and age and production. You have to ask in the marketplace how many players can do this?”

As Boras knows, there aren’t many players who can match Prince’s production. That means other clubs will have interest in Fielder and at this point, the Brewers are reportedly willing to listen to offers as they mull the pros and cons of an expensive extension. 


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131 Comments on "Boras Compares Fielder To Teixeira"


icedrake523
5 years 15 days ago

No surprise. This is a guy who had a whole binder comparing Oliver Perez to Randy Johnson and Sandy Koufax.

5 years 15 days ago

Oh god, is that really how he convinced the Mets to pay that much?

East Coast Bias
5 years 15 days ago

Hey, Boras is just doing his job. It’s the GMs that believe him that fans should have an issue with.

I mean, Boras has to be great if he convinced anyone Ollie deserved as much as he got. Sometimes I wonder if he’s using jedi mind tricks…

HerbertAnchovy
5 years 15 days ago

If Boras is a Jedi, is Fielder Joba The Hutt?

gigantes2425
5 years 15 days ago

boras to baseball is like…..cancer.

Zack23
5 years 15 days ago

““How many teams would take on Mark Teixeira’s contract? I would say 20.”

Yankees, Red Sox, White Sox, Tigers, Angels, Mariners, Mets, Cubs, Giants.

Who other 11 teams would take the contract?

quintjs
5 years 15 days ago

the famous and proven mystery teams i guess.

clvclv
5 years 15 days ago

I’d imagine you could eliminate the Angels (didn’t need him when they let him go), Tigers (Miguel Cabrera anyone?), Cubs (financial issues without a contract like that), and Mutts (can’t take on money at all) from that list.

That leaves you with five. As is the norm, about 25% of Borass’ numbers are legit.

jwsox
5 years 15 days ago

I would take the whitesox out of that for one big reason. scott boras..kenny and boras do not get along at all…look at joe crede and his contract issues while with the white sox….The sox could and would take on his contract and offer him a good extension but the second boras comes back with an absurd counter-deal kenny would say something like “ok scott you got a great deal, a fair market deal from us andyou dont want it, good bye we will talk when you want to take our deal”

jdub220
5 years 15 days ago

I think he was more speaking about who could take on that much money.

jdub220
5 years 15 days ago

I think he was more speaking about who could take on that much money.

JTrea81
5 years 15 days ago

The Orioles could take that contract.

Six_Eight
5 years 15 days ago

I’d sign that fat man to a contract…with a weight clause…

Six_Eight
5 years 15 days ago

I’d sign that fat man to a contract…with a weight clause…

JTrea81
5 years 15 days ago

The Orioles could take that contract.

snow15
5 years 15 days ago

I dont think the mariners could take on that contract, that would give them 3 players at 18 mil plus in 2012 and there is no way they dont resign Ichiro unless he decides he doesnt want to play in Seattle anymore. Under the current construction the Mariners simply cant afford another 18+ guy, they would have to expand their payroll to 2008 levels to be able to take on that contract

snow15
5 years 15 days ago

I dont think the mariners could take on that contract, that would give them 3 players at 18 mil plus in 2012 and there is no way they dont resign Ichiro unless he decides he doesnt want to play in Seattle anymore. Under the current construction the Mariners simply cant afford another 18+ guy, they would have to expand their payroll to 2008 levels to be able to take on that contract

Ferrariman
5 years 15 days ago

the japanese teams?

5 years 15 days ago

Yea a few years ago Ryan Madson was the next Mariano Rivera………..

Dylan
5 years 15 days ago

Too bad for Prince, and Boras, there will be a couple other 1B Free Agents that are better that will be available (maybe) at the same time…and the Mets, Angels, Giants, Yankees, and White Sox should be pretty happy with their first basemen….even the BoSox if you consider Youk to stay there…

What team is going to break the bank for him when they could have Albert or AGonz? Also, I think you can eliminate any NL team to sign him for long term based soley on his weight…that has to catch up him sooner or later right?

BaseballFanatic0707
5 years 15 days ago

“What team is going to break the bank for him when they could have Albert or AGonz?”

Whichever team doesn’t get those two that are in need of a very good hitter.

Agreed that he either loses some weight or moves to DH, though.

5 years 15 days ago

In one way, sure, Boras does have a point.

But, Tex and Fielder are not in the same league as say…….Pujols. Granted, just like in the recent L. James debacle with the Cavs……….Cleveland might lose somewhere in the neighborhood of 50 million (or more) with him gone.

But, even though I think people will come to see Fielder play, he has been with a small market team for his whole career, and doesn’t quite have the notoriety. The talent?

Maybe. But, this is just Boras selling high like he always does.

This is standard operating procedure for him no matter who the player is.

I think if teams are smart, they will wait things out, and drive the prices down, because there are going to be a LOT of good free agent first basemen on the market next year. And, when power hitting outfielders start losing outfield speed, they become first basemen as well.

I think teams would be smart not to overpay on a first basemen. (not named Pujols) I think history will show that the Yankees did, but we shall see.

clvclv
5 years 15 days ago

Where is Borass’ point? He loves to create comparisons – he picked the wrong player here. Tex is a switch-hitting, Gold Glove 1B. Prince hits a lot of HRs and will be without a position earlier in his career than Papi was.

jwsox
5 years 15 days ago

there are going to be 2 firstbasemen out there, who might not even be freee agents when this happens, but albert and adrian…those are probably the only two that you can justify over paying because they both hit a ton of homeruns, adrian is still very young, and both play gold glove caliber defense…

5 years 15 days ago

I can’t think of any team in the market for a hard-hitting 1B. Morales is under contract with Anaheim. Yankees have Teixeira. Mets have Ike Davis. Maybe the Giants. I don’t know what team is out there that has both the need for Fielder and the money to sign him.

5 years 15 days ago

One more thing on this.

I do think Prince is a great player. But, look at the numbers his dad put up. Eerily similar. Then, look at the tail off.

Obviously, they are two different people, but a similar situation would be a horror for a team throwing up 20 mil over 8 or so years.

hartvig
5 years 15 days ago

I think comparing him to his dad is a legitimate comparison. Unless he changes his ways & gets into shape he’ll be finished as a regular player by 31 or 32 years old and in now way worth 20 million plus per year after he’s 27 or 28 years old.

TheHotCorner
5 years 15 days ago

I totally agree. I think Prince will end up with his career cut short unless he does something about his weight problem.

Montero1220
5 years 15 days ago

There is no way Fielder gets anything near a Teixeira contract. First of all Teixeira is a gold glove 1B man, Fielder’s defense is average ( and I’m exaggerating). Second, Teixeira is a switch hitter while Fielder isn’t. Third Tex is an athletic dude who is bound to be durable and reliable for years to come while Prince although young is overweight and is bound to age badly. Forth, $180 million is Yankee money, Yankees always overpay for players (even in Tex’s case). There are few teams left out there to shell out a $180 million + contract unless someone brakes the bank for one player. Don’t get me wrong I think Fielder is one of the best home-run hitters in the bigs but that’s all he is. He a one dimensional player who deserves an according contract. I think 6/$90-$100 million seems really fair. Also if Prince signs with an AL team its smartest to DH him.

jwsox
5 years 15 days ago

agreed, the only way he gets a tex type deal is if its an AL team, they can play him at 1st for a few years, assuming they dont have a defensive lock there, and then move him to DH towards the end of his deal. He wont get tex money but he might get tex years

hacker13
5 years 15 days ago

You’d think Ryan Howard would have been a better comparison, but I guess since he isn’t one of Borasses clients he reached for Tex!

hacker13
5 years 15 days ago

You’d think Ryan Howard would have been a better comparison, but I guess since he isn’t one of Borasses clients he reached for Tex!

Sniderlover
5 years 15 days ago

I can’t see a team giving Fielder a Texiera type contract. Maybe something like 7yr/140 mil which is pretty good imo. I guess it would depend on how many teams have interest in him.

Assuming they don’t keep Beltre long-term, I can see them keeping Youkalis at 3B permanently and keeping Fielder at 1B or keeping Youkalis and his defense at 1B and Fielder can be younger and better Ortiz replacement.

jwsox
5 years 15 days ago

im pretty sure there are only 2 1st basemen out there that compare to tex, albert pujols(tex actually compares to him, in other words pujols is obviously better) and adrian gonzoles compares to tex…

yes power wise prince compares to tex, but then so does, dunn, carlos pena, miggy caberera, and right now paul konerko…but batting average wise and defensivly prince does not at all compare to tex…tex has a gold glove(or two?) and will win more, prince simply wont..

sorry scott i know you want as much money for your self(first and fore most) and your player( secondly) but dont put your eggs into on basket like you did with holliday….yes prince is awesome and every single team but 2 would love him(the phillies and cards simply cant play him anywhere) but he is no tex…tex is better defensively and a switch hitter thus making him a bit better

Sniderlover
5 years 15 days ago

I think Cabrera is better than Texiera but yes I see your point. Tex brings other things to the table that Fielder does not which is why he is suited for AL. He can play 1B for a few more years and then eventually start DH’ing.

Sniderlover
5 years 15 days ago

I think Cabrera is better than Texiera but yes I see your point. Tex brings other things to the table that Fielder does not which is why he is suited for AL. He can play 1B for a few more years and then eventually start DH’ing.

alphabet_soup5
5 years 15 days ago

Prince does compare to Tex as far as batting average goes this year. Prince has a superior slash line (as of the all-star break) in all 3 categories.

ZeroZeroZero
5 years 15 days ago

I cant imagine a team giving 300lb Prince Fielder an 8 year contract, even though hes a masher and been healthy so far. His father, who was very similar as has been noted, retired at 34. A young person can deal with being out of shape but once they hit their late 20s/early 30s its a different story.

Sage
5 years 15 days ago

You (as most people do) overestimated Prince’s weight. He only weighs 268 pounds, and he is a vegetarian. He takes very good care of his body.

oremlk
5 years 15 days ago

Do you seriously believe Fielder’s listed weight? Teams regularly fudge those numbers intentionally. Prince Fielder does not weigh 268lbs.

ZeroZeroZero
5 years 15 days ago

Even if he actually weighs 268, he is still 70+lbs overweight for somebody who isnt even 6′. His weight will absolutely be an issue with both this up coming contract and with his future health.

ronny9
5 years 15 days ago

Yes, because a pro athlete should meet the criteria of that stupid “overwieght chart” that we all know and love.

You do realize that the chart says that a LARGE FRAME 5’11” person should weigh between 161 and 184 lbs. that weight chart is absolutely ridiculous. and you’re saying that he’s still over 70+lbs overweight? hahaha.

I have a brother in law who is 5’10 and weighs 160. This guy is an absolute bean pole and therefore is a “small framed person. He’s got no muscle, no fat and based on this stupid weight chart that you’re referring to is overweight as well.

Prince Fielder is a pro athlete, a guy who is strong as all hell and is jacked. He’s got a little extra meat on the bone but to compare his so called “problem” to that of his father’s later years is astoundingly ridiculous. He’s a bigger dude, he’s got a large frame and he’s not a pure bread athlete like Lebron or pujols but the guy isn’t a fat A** like CC or David Wells either.

fitz
5 years 15 days ago

Nobody else cracked up at “pure bread”?

5 years 15 days ago

Is this post a joke? At 6’1 it’s healthy to be around 185/190 lbs. This guy is probably pushing 300 at less than 6′. Now I can only imagine by your exasperated inflection that you probably fit the 30-50 lbs overweight category, living in denial.

It’s not healthy to be overweight. I don’t care that he’s a vegetarian. He’s way overweight and he WILL pay the price very very soon. Knees don’t last long like that. Also, Fielder is just about as overweight as CC is. Don’t act like he’s some “special case” because he can swing a bat fast with all that extra weight. The guy needs a huge lifestyle change or he WILL die early from obesity health complications.

mattmosher
5 years 15 days ago

Fielder is a 300-pound fat ass. He switched to vegan and didn’t lose a pound, despite what the media guide says. He wears a yatch sail for a uniform and will NOT age well. I wouldn’t give that slob ten cents.

HerbertAnchovy
5 years 15 days ago

That is absolutely insane…. just because you’re a vegetarian doesn’t mean you take care of your body, it’s obvious Fielder doesn’t. Ever heard of carbs? Ever notice that you don’t see many obese seniors? Am I also the only one that notices how Fielder coughs all the time?

Sage
5 years 15 days ago

You (as most people do) overestimated Prince’s weight. He only weighs 268 pounds, and he is a vegetarian. He takes very good care of his body.

TheMagicIsBack
5 years 15 days ago

How about the Nationals?

drumzalicious
5 years 15 days ago

No way he gets a Tex sized contract simply because of health. Fielder is out of shape and will not be able to have a long continuously healthy career at his current weight. Even David Ortiz is smaller than him.

He will need to lose some weight and retain his strength. Otherwise you’re looking at him becoming a DH in the AL for the rest of his career. With that said the Red Sox and Angels are about the only teams i can imagine signing him at DH but it would certainly not be at that ridiculous amount.

CitizenSnips
5 years 15 days ago

I guess defense doesn’t count in Boras’ world, kinda like Gold Glove voting.

icedrake523
5 years 15 days ago

It only counts when it helps his case.

icedrake523
5 years 15 days ago

It only counts when it helps his case.

CitizenSnips
5 years 15 days ago

I guess defense doesn’t count in Boras’ world, kinda like Gold Glove voting.

Guest
5 years 15 days ago

Sorry, Fielder is a solid player, but he is no where near the complete player Teixeira is. Myabe Howard is a better comparison, but I truthfully think the Phils overpaid a little.

As other commenters alluded to, not many places that Fielder can go in theory. Getting his stock bid up will not be as easy as it was for Tex. Sure, comparisons help, but Prince works well for the Brewers. There is only 1 team and 1 team only that immediately comes to mind and that is the Braves. I am not even sure if they have any 1st base prospects to fill their void there long term. 5 years $100mm for this guy is too much, but that’s the minimum of what he’ll probably get. He is destined to be a future AL DH. He’ll be 31/32 following that. No team is going to commit to more than that.

CitizenSnips
5 years 15 days ago

Freddy Freeman?

CitizenSnips
5 years 15 days ago

Freddy Freeman?

BaseballFanatic0707
5 years 15 days ago

Everyone with half a mind doesn’t think the Phils overpaid Howard.

They KNOW the Phils overpaid Howard. =).

The Braves have Freeman, dude.

Guest
5 years 15 days ago

Got it, man. Takes the Braves off the short list then. I can’t even think of anyone else at this point.

BaseballFanatic0707
5 years 15 days ago

As of right now, he is absolutely praying the following happen:

1) Pujols gets an extension/contract from the Cardinals.
2) A-Gonz gets an extension from San Diego.

I don’t see number 2 happening. But, if both do, he’s set.

Guest
5 years 15 days ago

Got it, man. Takes the Braves off the short list then. I can’t even think of anyone else at this point.

BaseballFanatic0707
5 years 15 days ago

Everyone with half a mind doesn’t think the Phils overpaid Howard.

They KNOW the Phils overpaid Howard. =).

The Braves have Freeman, dude.

Guest
5 years 15 days ago

Sorry, Fielder is a solid player, but he is no where near the complete player Teixeira is. Myabe Howard is a better comparison, but I truthfully think the Phils overpaid a little.

As other commenters alluded to, not many places that Fielder can go in theory. Getting his stock bid up will not be as easy as it was for Tex. Sure, comparisons help, but Prince works well for the Brewers. There is only 1 team and 1 team only that immediately comes to mind and that is the Braves. I am not even sure if they have any 1st base prospects to fill their void there long term. 5 years $100mm for this guy is too much, but that’s the minimum of what he’ll probably get. He is destined to be a future AL DH. He’ll be 31/32 following that. No team is going to commit to more than that.

5 years 15 days ago

I cringe at saying this but Fielder on the Braves would make that team unbelievable. Lets hope it never happens :)

5 years 15 days ago

I cringe at saying this but Fielder on the Braves would make that team unbelievable. Lets hope it never happens :)

roberty
5 years 15 days ago

I cringe thinking about Fielder on the Braves. He is a good hitter now, but in 4 years some GM is going to be thinking up creative ways to move his massive, unproductive salary elsewhere….probably Jim Hendry, or whoever replaces him when he gets fired.

roberty
5 years 15 days ago

I cringe thinking about Fielder on the Braves. He is a good hitter now, but in 4 years some GM is going to be thinking up creative ways to move his massive, unproductive salary elsewhere….probably Jim Hendry, or whoever replaces him when he gets fired.

Guest
5 years 15 days ago

and yeah, Prince Fielder is not HOF bound. Sorry. Neither is Tex or Howard. HOF ballets are becoming to loosely discussed and these days there is talk of this guy in or that guy out. Whatever happened to accomplishing some amazing feat to stand out from the pack. Pettitte 18 Post season wins, most ever. Arod potential for 800 Homers. Jeter 3000 Yankee Hits. Mo giving up less than 1 run in a 15 year post season career. I’m most familiar with Yank players so I’ll reference them. Tex is a good ball player, but not breaking any records of real value. The same for Howard and Fielder. Hope Boras doesn’t p.o the home team because he’s going to need to go back to the Brewers eventually.

Yankees420
5 years 15 days ago

So in order to be HoF worthy, a player must break a record? Why not just call it “The Past/Current Records Holders Club” then?

5 years 15 days ago

howard broke a “record” ….. Most Ridiculous Contract Extension

5 years 15 days ago

I don’t think records need to be broken to make the hall of fame, but I do agree that hall of fame standards have become wishy-washy of late.

In my opinion, you were either good (great) enough to make the HOF or your weren’t. None of this “well he DID do this and this very well… blah blah blah”. No. Your either an all-time great player or you’re not.