White Sox Acquire Edwin Jackson

Edwin Jackson has been traded for the fourth time in his young career, this time by the Diamondbacks to the White Sox for pitchers Dan Hudson and David Holmberg

The 26-year-old Jackson would be a project for Sox pitching coach Don Cooper, as he has a 5.55 ERA, 8.1 K/9, and 4.3 BB/9 on the season despite throwing a no-hitter in late June.  Of course, we're not positive the hard-throwing righty won't be flipped, possibly for Adam Dunn, before Saturday's trade deadline.  At any rate, Arizona shed more payroll with the move since Jackson is owed $1.5MM more this year and $8.35MM in 2011 before he'll be eligible to become one of the youngest members of the 2012 free agent class.

Hudson, 23, rocketed up Chicago's farm system last year with "three solid pitches and natural deception," according to Baseball America.  He's spent most of this season in Triple A, posting a 3.47 ERA, 10.4 K/9, and 3.0 BB/9 with 13 home runs allowed in 93.3 innings.  The D'Backs might be concerned that their revamped rotation is built around flyball pitchers, with Ian Kennedy and Joe Saunders already in the fold, but interim GM Jerry Dipoto told MLBTR, "pitchers with good stuff work just about anywhere" while noting that Kennedy and Hudson miss bats.  The D'Backs will have Hudson under team control through 2016 even if they keep him in the Majors the rest of the season.

Holmberg, 19, was drafted in the second round, 71st overall out of high school by the White Sox last year.  The southpaw was ranked eighth among Sox prospects by BA heading into the season, with the projection of a "middle of the rotation workhorse at best."

Ken Rosenthal and Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports were first to report the teams being on the verge of the deal, with Yahoo's Tim Brown breaking news of the agreement.  Jon Heyman, Joe Cowley, and Bob Nightengale also contributed to the story.


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116 Comments on "White Sox Acquire Edwin Jackson"


5 years 5 days ago

The Diamondbacks just got a better return for Edwin Jackson than for Dan Haren. There is something wrong with this.

5 years 5 days ago

Seriously. That Haren trade is mind boggling. I feel like half of the teams in baseball would have wanted the chance to top that offer.

5 years 5 days ago

How can you say that when the trade centered around two single A stud pitchers? Skaggs has been compared to Jon Lester by some scouts. If he turns out to be Lester, it’s a clear victory for the Dbacks!

5 years 5 days ago

Single A pitchers? Get your facts straight Hudson hasnt pitched at single a since he first signed

5 years 5 days ago

Chris is clearly not talking about Hudson in his reply. Learn how to read.

ChiCubs13
5 years 5 days ago

He’s talking about the trade with the Angels for Haren not the Jackson trade. So you get your facts straight before you accuse someone of not having their facts straight.

5 years 5 days ago

jared mitchell is the sox’ top pitching prospect, kenny williams never trades away guys who will be great.

its like dealing with the braves, you’re always getting crap in return.

VoteForPrado
5 years 5 days ago

The Rangers beg to differ on your last sentence..

vtadave
5 years 5 days ago

uh Jared Mitchell is an outfielder.

BaseballFanatic0707
5 years 5 days ago

I guess Elvis Andrus and Neftali Feliz are crap then.

5 years 5 days ago

Better be gettin Dunn through Jackson…period!!! Come on Kenny, you’ve never let me down…don’t start now!

Kitfisto007
5 years 5 days ago

Too much for Jackson I think. I’m a fan of neither team, but I think Holmberg could be very good. How does anyone project a 20 year olds’ ceiling?

5 years 5 days ago

what do you base your thoughts on Holmberg from?

joel23
5 years 5 days ago

Dunn bette be on a flight to Chicago right now..

5 years 5 days ago

Unless this is a precursor to a trade for Dunn, this is honestly doesn’t make a whole lot of sense for the White Sox.

firealyellon
5 years 5 days ago

interesting….this may not be over

5 years 5 days ago

Arizona seems to really like pitchers that project as middle-of-the-rotation types.

agro23
5 years 5 days ago

It’s worked for the Padres so far.

5 years 5 days ago

Mat Latos?

strasburgsavior
5 years 5 days ago

5.55 ERA, 8.1 K/9, and 4.3 BB/9
Nope.
5.16 ERA, 6.97 K/9, and 4.02 BB/9

strasburgsavior
5 years 5 days ago

Additionally his FIP and xFIP are the best of his career (4.27 both).

5 years 5 days ago

Jackson has a 4.62 ERA away from Chase Field. Regardless, I don’t think the Cell is the best place for a flyball pitcher

JayLGee
5 years 5 days ago

Jim Bowden twittering that Jackson is headed to Wash for Dunn.

Derek Teslik
5 years 5 days ago

JimBowdenXMFOX —
Tim Kurkjian of ESPN reporting that the Nationals told him directly they are NOT trading Dunn to the White Sox for Edwin Jackson.

verlander
5 years 5 days ago

I wonder who they’re trading Dunn to the White Sox for, then.

Guest
5 years 5 days ago

Gordon Beckham, Viciedo, and Jackson (sarcasm)

Hey, a man can dream.

Of course if Jimbo were still running the show, we’d be seeing more trades where he tries to reunite the 2005 Cincinnati Reds.

verlander
5 years 5 days ago

//Tim Kurkjian of ESPN reporting that the Nationals told him directly they are NOT trading Dunn to the White Sox for Edwin Jackson//

Bowden’s twitter

5 years 5 days ago

Better be something else going to Wash. Otherwise, dumb dumb dumb by Rizzo. Nats need prospects, not overrated SP who’ll be FA after next year.

icedrake523
5 years 5 days ago

I really don’t understand how Jim Bowden still has any legitimacy in the baseball world. Just as I don’t get why the New York sports radio station sometimes has Steve Phillips on.

5 years 5 days ago

I wonder what deal fell thru then…Kenny said he had one that would make this one not needed…one can always wonder what could have been

VoteForPrado
5 years 5 days ago

If the Sox don’t flip Jackson for Dunn, this trade confuses me. If they do, this trade still confuses me, just from the National’s point of view.

5 years 5 days ago

I bet the Sox flips Jackson to WSH, and then the Nats try sending him back to Arizona for LaRoche, or something.

(Not a serious thought there…)

nowhere84
5 years 5 days ago

Don Cooper must see something fixable in Jackson, if they do intend to keep him.

damnitsderek
5 years 5 days ago

Okay, these trades are just getting ridiculous now. Honestly, this is like something that would get vetoed by the commissioner of a fantasy league.

foxtown
5 years 5 days ago

So let me get this straight… We traded away Hudson and another prospect AND the D’Backs aren’t eating any salary for a pitcher with a 5+ ERA?!

strasburgsavior
5 years 5 days ago

A pitcher who has the highest swinging strike percentage and strikeout rate of his career and the best FIP and xFIP of his career. Oh he’s also been worth 2 WAR so far.
ERA is a bogus stat.

jwsox
5 years 5 days ago

lets also not forget he is not the ace of this staff like he has been expected to be since breaking into the bigs, he will be a quality middle of the order guy who is controlled next season too. yes we gave up on hudson, probably too soon. But jackson has proved he can hack it in the bigs, and maybe with some less pressure being the 4th or 5th starter and don cooper will help him. We gave up a unproven prospect who has had a shaky season so far for a young pitcher who has shown huge potential, no hitter,

5 years 5 days ago

Those stats can be a good indicator of how well a pitcher is pitching and may help balance out issues with their defense, park, luck, etc., but in no way do they invalidate ERA. Ultimately, all stats should be used in combination to determine a player’s performance.

Saying ERA is a bogus stat doesn’t make you hardcore, it makes you sound just as stupid as the archaic fans who think Wins is a useful stat.

skeleteeth
5 years 5 days ago

That is a beefy lineup if Jackson gets flipped.

5 years 5 days ago

When was the last time a pitcher who threw a no-hitter was traded later that season?

Usually, the pitcher is actually good… I’m not as bit an Edwin Jackson fan as others seem to be.

For ARI… this is puzzling, not because of this return, but compared to what they gave Haren away for, they certainly got more for Jackson’s value.

ykw
5 years 5 days ago

Haren was in a different contract situation (more years remaining at higher base salaries), is substantially older (just under three full years) and is performing at a lower level than in any year since his first. Nobody wants to overpay for a guy who could be done, and nobody wants to carry a guy for multiple seasons until his contract is up if he =is= done.

For all his time in the majors, Jackson is still just twenty-six years old. He’s still looked at as someone with vast upside. Outside observers like us may shake our heads at this evaluation, but guys who are perceived as young who have both speed and movement on their stuff and show even a rudimentary level of command will always be in demand.

YanksFanSince78
5 years 5 days ago

The Dbacks just seem lost. Just making trades to make trades.

Paradise17
5 years 5 days ago

Really??? Jackson is not good and makes 8 mil next year. He has been on LAD, Tampa, DET, AZ and now CHWS and maybe the NATS and he is only 26…that says something. Hudson is young and we added depth to our system again.

5 years 5 days ago

At the very least, the DBacks broke even. Maybe it turns out that Hudson is a bust and Coop turns Jackson into a good #2 starter, but you cannot count on these things. As of right now, 6 years of Hudson for a year and a third of Jackson (at 8 mil per) is a good deal for the DBacks

TwinsVet
5 years 5 days ago

Twins “big move” is shipping their marquee trade chip for Matt Capps. I had the most depressed cup of coffee this morning since we woke up to read we sent Johan off for a bag of nobodies.

Now Chicago’s big move is sending off their marquee trade chip for Edwin Jackson. It seems there is balance restored in the AL Central, and today is turning out to be not so bad…

g8rphan19
5 years 5 days ago

you have to know by now that Kenny is not done

TwinsVet
5 years 5 days ago

Like helping Arizona flip Hudson for Dunn? My God that would just send me into hysterics…

5 years 5 days ago

You can dream, but you know that Kenny will get a bat. We still have Viciedo as a very good trade chip that we can package with Flowers who is another great trade chip.

We will get a bat. Will it be Dunn? Maybe, maybe not. But we are in first place with a DH hitting .220 and less than 10 HR, so anything is an upgrade to that. The Sox will be a much better team by mid day Saturday than they were yesterday.

bas_in_denmark
5 years 5 days ago

How is Viciedo a good trade chip? He can’t play third and he can’t take a walk. Even money he is going to end up like Mike Jacobs or worse.

verlander
5 years 5 days ago

Now the Tigers just have to trade Jacob Turner to Boston for Mike Lowell.

jwsox
5 years 5 days ago

hudson is by no means their marquee trade chip, yes he is their number 1 pitching prospect but not their number 1 porspect…the number 1 prospect is hurt….and consider this they just drafted and signed chris sale and already promoted him to AAA, and already have talked about him joining the big league club THIS YEAR in AAA he has thrown in 5 innings and has 12 K’s…yes right now he is a reliever but he profiles as a top pf the order starter and only dropped in the draft to the sox because no one thought they could sign him….so i would say sale is becoming their num 1 pitching prospect andhaving him made hudson moveable

Guest
5 years 5 days ago

“The Dbacks just seem lost. Just making trades to make trades. ”

?? umm and you wouldn’t make this trade?

YanksFanSince78
5 years 5 days ago

I simply don’t understand their thinking. They sucked in 2009 but decided to trade away to acquire Edwin Jackson who was already expensive and a year or so away from FA. Then they trade away Haren for a less than attractive package including Saunders. Now they trade away Jackson. Did they honestly think trading for Jackson made them a 90 win team this year? And once they figured they weren’t and felt it was time to move then why make a trade that included Saunders as opposed to some of the better offers out there?

bigpat
5 years 5 days ago

Kenny Williams hates prospects. They better be flipping Jackson for something else, because this deal on it’s own isn’t very good. Why use your top prospect to get a 5th starter when Hudson can probably do the job just as well?

I thought maybe they would dangle Edwin to the Brewers in a Fielder deal, but I don’t see him getting traded this year, unless it’s a huge deal with plenty of young talent.

g8rphan19
5 years 5 days ago

prospects are suspects

TwinsVet
5 years 5 days ago

Does he realize that Konerko, Buehrle, Jenks, Thornton, and Ramirez were all prospects at one time too?

No team can remain competitive without developing a steady stream of serviceable big league talent. Even the Yankees and Boston are built around guys who came up through their system.

Good teams develop their own talent. Great teams develop star talent.

jwsox
5 years 5 days ago

yes but konerko became a whitesox player when he was past the prospect title, same with thornton, jenks was rule 5 and ramirez was a cuban super star

5 years 5 days ago

While Kenny likes to deal prospects away, most of those are bad examples because they are prospects he made moves to pick up.

Sox traded Mike Cameron for Konerko, Joe Borchard for Thornton, and claimed Jenks off waivers. Buehrle came up in the organization and Ramirez was signed after defecting, obviously.

Good teams have talent. Whether they actually drafted the players or not is irrelevant. Obviously, the more talent you have in the minors, the more assets you have and the more cheap players you have. But the idea that teams can only be good if all their best players come up through their system is wrong.

TwinsVet
5 years 5 days ago

I’ll be the first to admit I’m not well versed on Sox player history. Most could very well be bad examples.

That said, I just have trouble thinking of a perennial contender that doesn’t have key parts developed from within. I’m not talking drafting the player, I’m just talking about having, at one time, held them when they were in “prospect” status. They’re exponentially cheaper, and free up cash to enable you to go out and get those few big-ticket parts that put you over the top.

I’m not saying it matters if you draft the guy – I’m just saying you’re going to have a helluva time being perennially good if you’re not maintaining a strong farm system.