Cardinals Acquire Pedro Feliz

The Cardinals acquired Pedro Feliz and cash from the Astros for pitcher David Carpenter, according to Astros director of social media Alyson Footer (on Twitter). Feliz, 35, has a .221/.243/.311 line this season with four homers in 304 plate appearances. He hasn't hit much in recent years, but has a reputation as a strong defender. UZR suggests that Feliz's defense has been excellent throughout his career (though he has a -7.9 rating in 530 innings so far in 2010).

The Cardinals acquired Feliz to help out at third base, since an injury to David Freese and a Felipe Lopez slump have left St. Louis thin at the hot corner. The Cardinals intensified their search for infielders this week, showing interest in multiple third basemen. Feliz makes a total of $4.5MM in 2010 (he has yet to receive about $1.1MM of that) before becoming a free agent this winter. 

Carpenter, 25, was the closer for the Cards' Florida State League (High A) affiliate. He has 20 saves this year with a 2.36 ERA, 8.4 K/9 and 2.5 BB/9. The Cards drafted Carpenter in the 12th round of the 2006 draft as a catcher. Astros GM Ed Wade describes the right-hander as a "power arm" who could become a major league contributor. 


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114 Comments on "Cardinals Acquire Pedro Feliz"


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4 years 10 months ago

Those 64 hits on the season are really going to help the cards pull even with the reds. Oh yea and the .243 OBP.

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Dave_Gershman
4 years 10 months ago

And Kevin Goldstein really likes David Carpenter. Really good arm and decent stuff.

Whatever anybody says, Ed Wade has done a tremendous job over the past 2 years turning this organization around. Any time you can turn Pedro Feliz in to David Carpenter, you obviously did something right.

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$1529282
4 years 10 months ago

He deserves small praise for this move, and praise for acquiring Brett Wallace, but saying Wade’s done a “tremendous job?”

He gave Brandon Lyon a ludicrous 3-year, $15MM contract… he’s the one who signed Feliz in the first place, and he continually (this year excluded) has the delusion that his team is a contender and actually ADDS talent at the deadline only to finish considerably out of the race.

Ed Wade may have gotten lucky with the Myers signing, and maybe with the extension (time will tell), but you can certainly make the argument that he should’ve traded him as well. He did a nice job acquiring Wallace, too, and he can receive some minor praise for this move, but to call him “tremendous” would be like calling Pedro Feliz “a big improvement” for the Cardinals.

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Dave_Gershman
4 years 10 months ago

First of all, every GM makes a mistake, but not every one can turn Feliz in to David Carpenter.

From where this organization was when he came from Philly, he has done a fantastic job turning it around.

New players, prospects, management, and style of play are all things that Ed Wade has changed and implemented since his arrival and talk about their great drafting!

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$1529282
4 years 10 months ago

“Not everyone can turn Feliz into David Carpenter”

You say that as if Carpenter is a legit prospect. He’s a 25-year-old who hasn’t pitched above High-A.

You’re right about one thing though — most GMs couldn’t turn Feliz into Carpenter, because most GMs wouldn’t have signed Feliz for $4.5MM in the first place.

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Dave_Gershman
4 years 10 months ago

No, I’m just saying turning a disappointment who you only paid 1.1 MM in to any prospects is worth it so kudos

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brstreet9
4 years 10 months ago

You would think the ‘Stros picked up Chris Carpenter the way it is being talked about.

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4 years 10 months ago

I cracked on Wade on the time for Lyon like everybody else, but it has actually turned out to be not as bad as I originally imagined. He is certainly overcompensated and a luxury, but he has been just about the only consistent thing in that bullpen all year. Heck, he’s third on the team in wins. He has come close to providing a reasonable cost to value ratio thus far.

Feliz and Matsui were much more egregious errors.

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4 years 10 months ago

If I would have known you were there, I would have waited!

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Yoni Pollak
4 years 10 months ago

great deal for houston…get rid of his but for something

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$1529282
4 years 10 months ago

Ed Wade actually got someone to take Feliz? He’s literally the worst player in baseball this season. He’s been a -1.5 WAR player, his OPS is at .555, OPS+ at 49, and his defense has fallen off a cliff.

Carpenter may be a 24-year-old that’s still at High-A, but hell, getting a warm body for this guy and saving a couple bucks is a feat in its own right. Did Mozeliak lose a bet or something?

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Dave_Gershman
4 years 10 months ago

“He’s literally the worst player in baseball this season.”

If in fact that’s true, I’m not saying it is, but if it’s true, The worst Player in Baseball is playing with the best player in Baseball. Isn’t that cool?

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$1529282
4 years 10 months ago

-1.5 WAR
.241 wOBA
.555 OPS
49 OPS+
.243 OBP

Pick your metric and Feliz is likely the bottom player.

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Dave_Gershman
4 years 10 months ago

all of the above please.

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Dave_Gershman
4 years 10 months ago

Whoa. Houston won this trade. Pedro Feliz doesn’t have much bat speed left but I suppose he is an upgrade over Allen Craig. But not an upgrade over Felipe Lopez.

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$1529282
4 years 10 months ago

Feliz wouldn’t be an upgrade over Allen Craig, Allen Iverson, Tim Allen, or even Alan Greenspan the way he’s played in 2010.

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Dave_Gershman
4 years 10 months ago

Let me reiterate, defensively I meant. But that’s just being generous.

I bet he’s an upgrade over Woody Allen at 3B.

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$1529282
4 years 10 months ago

Woody Allen, maybe.

But Feliz’s defense is even terrible this year. They were better off giving Craig a tryout, I’d say. Looking at Pedro’s numbers, he’s seriously having a historically bad season… one of the worst since the turn of the century.

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Dave_Gershman
4 years 10 months ago

No question about it.

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Triteon
4 years 10 months ago

Craig couldn’t handle 3B in the minors, that’s why they’ve been trying him at other positions. Feliz may be a minus defender this year, but he’s still an upgrade over anyone else we have.

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Cardinals06
4 years 10 months ago

Did you watch Lopez play 3B? He’s been costing the Cardinals games, because of his defense. Like on Tuesday night against the Brewers, when he made 2 erros. Lopez is bad at 3B, last I checked. And he’s better playing 2B. So, Feliz is an upgrade over Lopez at 3B for defense. Allen Craig really isn’t a 3B anymore. He only got a few chances to play 3B, to give Lopez time off ….. because the Cardinals didn’t have anyone else to play 3B. Craig once was a 3B a few years back though, but the Cardinals changed him into a left and right fielder. And Craig can also play 1B, which is maybe his best postion. But, Craig seems like he can’t hit MLB pitching.

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4 years 10 months ago

Why? The player the Cards just traded could probably outproduce Feliz’s WAR numbers! I wonder what the book is on Carpenter; he’s old for the league, but he was converted from being a catcher, and he’s pitched pretty well.

Horrible deal for the Cards, they just traded away a potential useful reliever down the line for a waste of a roster spot.

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Cardinals06
4 years 10 months ago

The Cardinals are pretty loaded on bullpen depth anyway. It’s not like Carpenter is their future closer. That is Eduardo Sanchez, even though Fernando Salas can close also (if need be). And the Cardinals needed to find a real 3B, they couldn’t keep using Lopez there. Because, he was costing them games with his defense.