Reds Sign Edgar Renteria

The Reds have signed Edgar Renteria to a one-year deal, the team announced. The agreement guarantees him $2.1MM and allows him to earn another $900K through incentives. Bruce Levine of ESPNChicago.com first reported the agreement and Jon Heyman of SI.com added the terms of the deal (Twitter link). Agents Jeffrey Lane and Barry Meister represent the 2010 World Series MVP.

Earlier in the offseason, Renteria expressed interest in returning to the Marlins or Cardinals. A deal with the Reds would be a homecoming of sorts for Renteria, who played under GM Walt Jocketty from 1999-2004 while Jocketty was the St. Louis GM. 

Renteria, 34, says he intends to play for two more seasons. He batted .276/.332/.374 in 267 plate appearances last year, missing time with elbow, groin, hamstring and shoulder injuries before returning to form and leading the Giants to their first championship in San Francisco.

Renteria discussed a potential return to San Francisco, even after saying that the Giants' $1MM offer showed a "lack of respect."


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175 Comments on "Reds Sign Edgar Renteria"


4 years 7 months ago

wow, didn’t see that coming… I guess the Reds gave some respect with this contract…

can’t wait to see the dollar amount

$1529282
4 years 7 months ago

Click the actual link… Could be as high as $3M. Yeesh.

4 years 7 months ago

geez, looks like he got his respekt

Mario Saavedra
4 years 7 months ago

Twice as much money with the potential to earn three times more his past offer, I’d like a job offer with something like that.

Chuck345
4 years 7 months ago

You’re getting totally disrespected if you haven’t received one yet.

4 years 7 months ago

I really hope they still give Janish a real shot at being the everyday shortstop. Would Renteria have signed with the Reds even if it was a backup role?

simmonaj
4 years 7 months ago

I agree I think Janish is a better SS than Renteria at this stage in his career. No way though that Renteria is the backup.

HummBaby
4 years 7 months ago

Nobody cares. He’ll be on the DL 3/4 of the season.

4 years 7 months ago

Renteria’s track record shows he is pretty durable, so I doubt he see a ton of time on the DL. This is a good signing by the Reds. Renteria is a winner, and should provide good leadership for a young team.

gregtbone
4 years 7 months ago

Rent was on the DL about six times in the last two years. He also did some time on the DL in Detroit and Atlanta…I would not really call that durable. The Reds have a lot going for them, I hope he does not bring them down.

simmonaj
4 years 7 months ago

He only played 72 games last year, I hope your right 3 mil is a lot for the reds to spend if the guy isn’t going to play

robdicken
4 years 7 months ago

I’m not sure why you or anyone keep saying $3million is a ton of money to spend. The league average salary in 2009 was $3million. Which equates to this like being UNDER league average.

They aren’t overpaying for him.

4 years 7 months ago

Given that 1 WAR on the free agent market is worth about $4.5 million, and that over the last two seasons he was worth 0.3 and 1.3 WAR respectively, it would appear that this works out to be a fair deal for the Reds. With Janish as an affordable backup option, if Edgar goes down with another popped hammy or whatever else, it probably won’t be a huge loss for the Reds.

That said, general opinion is that he won’t be worth much, rightly or not. When everyone is saying that he should retire, and then he comes out and says he wants to play for two more years… You’ll be hard pressed to convince people that paying him anything is wise.

simmonaj
4 years 7 months ago

He only played 72 games last year, I hope your right 3 mil is a lot for the reds to spend if the guy isn’t going to play

gmenfan
4 years 7 months ago

Having watched this guy for the last two seasons in San Francisco, the only player less durable is “Fragile” Freddy Sanchez.

boo_lemaster
4 years 7 months ago

72 games over 2 years = durable?

4 years 7 months ago

Renteria’s track record shows he is pretty durable, so I doubt he see a ton of time on the DL. This is a good signing by the Reds. Renteria is a winner, and should provide good leadership for a young team.

tenten
4 years 7 months ago

good for edgar… he still is a very good player….

ARod's Ring
4 years 7 months ago

Correction! he still a baseball player.

boo_lemaster
4 years 7 months ago

Correction! He still is a baseball player on occasion…2 yrs, 72 games w/ the Giants…hopefully is well rested and ready to make the lineup for the Reds this year

ElTorro56
4 years 7 months ago

I take it you didn’t watch any SF Giants games this past season? You’re right, Renteria is a gamer. LOL

55saveslives
4 years 7 months ago

Giants respected him with $18.5 million! Thanks for your HR Edgar…peace out!!

schellis
4 years 7 months ago

Waste of money, they should have just ran with Janish and Cozart

simmonaj
4 years 7 months ago

Agree

4 years 7 months ago

I too wish they would have just given Janish and Cozart a shot at it but I think with the moves that the Brewers made and the cardinals are always tough, I think there was some pressure to make a name splash a little.

Here is how I look at it now that this is probably a done deal.
1. Janish will be told he is the starter until he cant hit for crap and then they will slowly start playing Renteria more and eventually their roles will switch.
2. If Janish continues to improve his bat like hie did last year and comes out doing well I could see some kinda of 50 / 50 time with the both of these guys. Kinda go with the hot bat at the time kinda deal.
3. If Renteria gets injured Janish will be ready to prove to the reds they made the mistake of signing Renteria.
4. If Janish gets injured at least we have someone who knows how to play SS at the major league level.

So in conclusion. Am I happy about the deal , yeah just a little cause we have some decent depth now at SS. Do I think Janish should be given the job out of spring training, No unless he shows he can handle it. I still think these two will split the season for time at SS.

simmonaj
4 years 7 months ago

Jay,
I can work with your theory. My only fear is that the WS MVP wont want to split 50/50 and some troubles may arise from that. The more I think about it though, both Renteria and Rolen are bound to A.) hit the DL or B.) need time off, thus I think Janish is well suited to play quite a bit at both 3rd and SS this year which is fine with me. I just felt we could have used the money to get a lead-off man. Who knows the clubs may be sold on having stubbs lead-off this year……

robdicken
4 years 7 months ago

Who says that they aren’t still going to do that?

4 years 7 months ago

Janish must be thinking, “Not again!”

baybombers
4 years 7 months ago

Who are the giants gonna get as a backup infielder now…

boo_lemaster
4 years 7 months ago

Hopefully someone who can actually field!?!?!

start_wearing_purple
4 years 7 months ago

Can someone confirm I’m not crazy or just fell through a time warp or something…

I keep going to baseball-reference and many player page I go to has omitted the 2010 stats… anyone else see that?

4 years 7 months ago

Dude, how can the 2010 season stats be there when its January 6, 2010 now?

:)

start_wearing_purple
4 years 7 months ago

In the words of daffy duck, you’re despicable. Add the lisp as needed.

MaineSox
4 years 7 months ago

Baseball-Reference tweeted about an hour ago that they are rebuilding the site and lost some of the stats and should have them back up later today.

start_wearing_purple
4 years 7 months ago

Thanks. I was wondering if I needed to call NASA and inform them I have a wormhole above my bed. Never go to sleep watching stargate…

goredsgo
4 years 7 months ago

Man, i can’t wait to see him and Janish battle it out for the SS job in ST

4 years 7 months ago

I am with you on this. I think it will be a good dog fight now which is good for the team in the end cause both guys want to be the starter and that usually leads to good play.

goredsgo
4 years 7 months ago

Man, i can’t wait to see him and Janish battle it out for the SS job in ST

4 years 7 months ago

Are you kidding me? What a major lack of disrespect! Oh my god!

They should be giving this guy a 30 million dollar contract over 2 years with a 18 million dollar mutual option for year 3.

How dare they disrespect this god like player?

4 years 7 months ago

You know the thing that always makes me laugh on this site.

Its when you look over at the number of people who liked a message and its always the posts that are being sarcastic or making a comment that does not matter one bit to the topic. Everyone laughs and says that was funny I like that post … ok not everyone but a lot do.

4 years 7 months ago

Yea, I think it’s relevant. The guy gets massively overpaid for 2 years, and yes, good for him, was the World Series MVP and did a good job.

But, there are a lot of minor league kids, and probably back up major leaguers too, that can put up WAY better offensive and defensive numbers than Edgar Renteria if given the same amount of playing time and opportunity.

Respect? He needs a gut check. He needs to respect the game. These guys whine and moan about a million dollars when most people will never make a million dollars in their entire lifetime.

robdicken
4 years 7 months ago

Here’s where I am going to throw out a bit of a correction…

Minor Leaguers haven’t played in the major leagues yet. Therefore, you don’t KNOW that they are going to produce at that level, specifically. It’s hit and miss, no pun intended. So saying someone like Zach Cozart would produce just as good as Edgar Renteria, is a shot in the dark. You don’t know that. He could, but he also could not and likely would not.

It’s good to go with what you KNOW is going to happen, and that Edgar is likely going to put up similar numbers that he has throughout his career. Not fantastic, but also not terrible. He’s not going to hurt the Reds at that position.

4 years 7 months ago

So, Jay, you’re saying you find it funny when others find it funny when someone says something funny.

goredsgo
4 years 7 months ago

The Reds have signed the reigning World Series MVP. Wow. Never thought I’d say that

4 years 7 months ago

I know right … A lot of people on here act like the Reds just signed the worst player in baseball history.

Reaper87
4 years 7 months ago

Not the worst player in baseball history, just confused why they’d sign a guy who’s best case scenario is starting 70 games decently, coming off the bench for 10 more and being on the DL the other half of the season. There’s a reason no one else until now offered him over 1 million

robdicken
4 years 7 months ago

With ATL and DET he started 124+ games each of those 2 years. I don’t get your ideology that the guy can’t play the game because he had an injury plagued year in San Francisco last year. Not to mention, you’re blaming him instead of the San Fran front-office for his ballooned contract. I don’t get that.

He’s under league average for salary. He took a good paycut to come to Cincinnati. He wants to play, and I bet we see a healthy Renteria this year. If not, Janish will be our starter and we have Cozart waiting in the shadows.

simmonaj
4 years 7 months ago

I don’t think he took a pay cut since San Fran was the only other team to offer him contract worth 1 million/yr

robdicken
4 years 7 months ago

He took a good paycut compared to LAST YEAR’S salary…did he not? No matter the team he signed with, he was going to take a paycut compared to last year’s salary. I would grant you on your assumption, but I don’t believe you can take a paycut for a year in which you haven’t been paid in or played yet.

Reaper87
4 years 7 months ago

It’s pretty clear you haven’t watched him the last couple seasons. he played 138 games with Detroit not very well, his numbers fell off a cliff from the Atlanta days. Then he comes to SF and goes on the DL I believe 6 times in 2 seasons. His legs are falling apart, range deteriorating by the day… what in all that indicates 2010 was just a fluke? If you think he has more than 80 games in him you are crazy. 2 injury plagued seasons in a row at his age are serious red flags. He should have retired on top while he had the chance

Ferrariman
4 years 7 months ago

eh, if the cost for around a .700 OPS and insurance policy is 3mil(with incentives), it isn’t that bad of a deal. Though i think there were better options out there, you can understand the Reds perspective. He won’t need to play more than 80 games anyways(barring injuries of course) with Janish/Cozart.

robdicken
4 years 7 months ago

His age? The dude is 34 years old. Everyone keeps indicating that he’s so old…he’s simply not. He’s not young, but he’s also not extremely old. If he were 36-38 years old, I would give you that. But the guy can still play. The Reds didn’t sign him with the idea in mind that he is going to play 162 games this year. They didn’t do that with Cabrera either. But, Cabrera is 2 years older than Renteria and still played quite a few games for the Reds and didn’t “hurt” them.

The ideology behind these gripes and complaints is that he can’t play the game anymore because he’s been hurt the last couple years. If you have any sense of baseball history, that thinking has no substantial backing to it. Players can decline or players can improve of those injury plagued years. It’s a shot in the dark, but at the very least, Renteria will serve as a quality backup at short.

4 years 7 months ago

Generally speaking, he’s old for a shortstop. A lot of shortstops move to 3B or 2B by his age to account for a shrinking range or a slowing first step.

I’m of the opinion that Renteria, if he will only play shortstop, shouldn’t be a starter. He played surprisingly well in the postseason this year, but as noted elsewhere he only played about a half-season’s worth of baseball; he was well rested.

All told, the Reds will probably get more serviceable defense out of him, and better production overall, if he’s in a platoon situation. Give Renteria half the starts, and give Janish some low-pressure playing time.

robdicken
4 years 7 months ago

I’m not worried whether he’s playing shortstop, 3B, or 2B. Doesn’t matter to me really. I just think the comments made that he can’t play the game because he’s too old, is stretching it. 34 isn’t too old for baseball. Is he past his prime? Of course he is, but it doesn’t mean he still can’t play the game.

Ethanator99
4 years 7 months ago

COME ON! What a waste! What is the point of this?

mateodh
4 years 7 months ago

Too bad Edmonds probably won’t be back. The quest to reassemble the 2004 Cardinals is halfway complete. I was surprised they didn’t bring in Rick Ankiel and Jason Marquis somehow…

4 years 7 months ago

I’m just waiting for Jocketty to offer spring training invites to Scott Spezio and Matt Morris, sign David Eckstein, and trade Brandon Phillips and Mike Leake for Dan Haren…

robdicken
4 years 7 months ago

Why do people keep saying this?

Who’s on the team that the Cardinals had? Rolen, Renteria…who else?

The Cardinals have way more ex-Reds than the Reds do ex-Cardinals. Might as well sign Jim Bowden as a special advisor to the GM, while you’re at it. LOL

4 years 7 months ago

Most of us are going off of Jocketty’s tenure in Cincinatti: Former Cardinals include Jim Edmonds, Miguel Cairo, Jason Isringhausen (who I believe got signed to a minor league deal and never made it to the majors), Scott Rolen, and now Edgar Renteria.

Conversely, I can’t think of any former Reds off the top of my head playing for the Cardinals…

The_BiRDS
4 years 7 months ago

Jason LaRue!… oh wait he retired after his class act former teammates kicked him in the face… hmmm
Feliz!…. oh wait Cards let him walk after they realized most of his professional career was at Cincinnati and that made him worthless.
Dusty Baker!.. oh wait he was a poor Cub who hasnt really done much in his past 10 years in baseball but he was the answer for the Reds.. lets extend him, if thats ok with you Baker..
Baker: “maybe I should hold out to see if the Yanks are interested”
Yankees: “hahahaha”

Reds 2011 record: 60-102

The_BiRDS
4 years 7 months ago

Jason LaRue!… oh wait he retired after his class act former teammates kicked him in the face… hmmm
Feliz!…. oh wait Cards let him walk after they realized most of his professional career was at Cincinnati and that made him worthless.
Dusty Baker!.. oh wait he was a poor Cub who hasnt really done much in his past 10 years in baseball but he was the answer for the Reds.. lets extend him, if thats ok with you Baker..
Baker: “maybe I should hold out to see if the Yanks are interested”
Yankees: “hahahaha”

Reds 2011 record: 60-102

robdicken
4 years 7 months ago

First, learn how to spell Cincinnati before you start and argument…please.

Secondly…Ryan Franklin? Kyle Lohse? Dennys Reyes? Felipe Lopez? Jason LaRue?

These guys played or still play for the Cardinals between last year and this year. You can’t think of any former Reds because you simply aren’t thinking.

Ferrariman
4 years 7 months ago

yeah but none of those except sort of Franklin are impact players or have been impact players for either team. Who seriously cares if career journey men like Miguel Cairo and Dennys Reyes happened to play for both teams, its not like they matter anyways. Guys like Rolen and Renteria and Edmonds, they were fixtures in St. Louis and pivotal parts of there success. Might not be anymore, but the reasoning still stands.

robdicken
4 years 7 months ago

So based on your theology of this ex-Cardinal vs. ex-Red bullcrap, because they weren’t “impact players” means they don’t count?

Well based on that assumption, the only “impact player” that counts for the Reds last year and wasn’t a journeyman, was Scott Rolen. So again, WHY do you keep mentioning this and WHY do you keep making crap up as you go?

Edmonds played barely 20 games with the Reds last year…lol

You are just…I don’t even have words for it. That’s all I can really say at this point. Not sure why I am even debating with you.

Ferrariman
4 years 7 months ago

So based on your theology of this ex-Cardinal vs. ex-Red bullcrap, because they weren’t “impact players” means they don’t count?

yeah basically. If they didn’t make an impact, who cares. Why count career journey men? there just spot fillers. The Edmonds part i clearly said he was an impact player in St. Louis though i probably should have mentioned that he wasn’t one in Cincy(thought it was obvious in the context in put it in).

robdicken
4 years 7 months ago

Right, but you keep saying the Reds have more ex-Cardinals than the Cardinals have ex-Reds. That’s not true in any sense, and so far…through all your “proof” and theories on the matter…you have still yet to prove that you are correct.

Just admit that you were wrong on this and move on. There’s no sense in arguing or debating about it, because it’s pointless and you’re not proving anything.

Ferrariman
4 years 7 months ago

Right, but you keep saying the Reds have more ex-Cardinals than the Cardinals have ex-Reds. That’s not true in any sense

no i don’t. Remember that really long post i had a bit further down(or up however you have your settings). Here is the exact words on how i opened it:

“To say the cardinals have more former reds than vice versa is correct and i am not denying that”

word for word. Copy and paste. no editing. If you didn’t even read the first two sentences of the post than you really have no room to make an argument or retaliation back.

i’d like to see how you put a spin on this one(that is if you comment on this section again)

mateodh
4 years 7 months ago

Ferrariman is right. It’s not really a head count of every player who used to play for the other team. It’s because Edmonds and Rolen were 2/3 of the MV3 trio and Renteria was essentially the MV4 before he left. It also has to do with the fact that these players were all acquired by Walt Jocketty in a relatively short period of time.

If the Cardinals coaxed Andy Pettitte out of retirement, signed Derek Jeter and traded for Jorge Posada, they would be looked at the same way, as a team trying to bring the Yankees to the NL, even though it’s only 3 players.

Edit: All that within 2 years of signing Cashman as their GM…

robdicken
4 years 7 months ago

Again, why’s it matter and why’s it significant? That’s the point.

Last year the Reds didn’t have more ex-Cardinals than the Cardinal had ex-Reds. Simply isn’t true. Ferrariman is twisting his argument every which way he can to try and prove himself right, when it essentially doesn’t even make sense at this point.

First it’s the Reds have more ex-Cardinals, then the journeymen don’t count, then the utilitymen don’t count. Now he’s saying the Reds don’t have more ex-Cardinals.

So again…I will ask…what are any of your Cardinals fans trying to prove with this argument? It’s pointless, redundant, and mundane. Just stop. Thanks.

Ferrariman
4 years 7 months ago

First it’s the Reds have more ex-Cardinals

never said that. actually, said the opposite. You might have thought i was inferring that because i’m arguing against you but that has never been my stance. ever.

then the journeymen don’t count, then the utilitymen don’t count

thats the same thing. Most utility players are journeymen and you’d have to have a pretty low baseball IQ to not know that.

robdicken
4 years 7 months ago

My point was, that you continually come on here and say, “Another ex-Cardinal signed by the Reds.” That indicates to me, and many others here, that you are saying the Reds are continually signing ex-Cardinals. They are not. They have 3 guys whom were ex-Cardinals on their team this year. Does it matter that Rolen played for the Cardinals? No. He played for the Phillies and Blue Jays too. Does it matter that Renteria played for the Cardinals? No. He played for the Marlins, Braves, Detroit, and San Francisco as well. Does it matter that ANY of them are playing for the Reds and have played for all of those previous teams? No, it doesn’t. It’s insignificant, and THAT is the point I and many others have been trying to make to you during this entire thread as well as many others.

End of story.

4 years 7 months ago

You’re really defensive Rob. People can get the idea that Jocketty is reuniting his old world series teams because he’s acquiring players that used to be on those teams. The former Reds players on the Cardinals were never in the world series with the Reds so they’re a little less memorable (sorry).

Now, I love all those former Cardinals mentioned. But I opine that acquiring them now is a mistake. Their hey-days are far in the past.

Btw, if you are going to say my argument is invalid because I spelled Cincinnati wrong, I’m gonna go ahead and say your argument is invalid because you don’t know the meaning of the word “theology”.

Thanks,
Adam

robdicken
4 years 7 months ago

Adam, the world of baseball as we know it would make a complete 180 if it lived or practiced “theology.” Now, I am not saying you’re wrong for creating theories based on players past their prime. However, Scott Rolen is past his prime and has been for a few years now. That didn’t stop him from having a productive year for the Reds. Many said it was a terrible trade, because of Rolen’s age, to Toronto. That “theory” proved to be inaccurate as both pitchers and Encarnacion haven’t exactly lived up to their “theorized” potential.

The theory of ex-Cardinals or ex-Reds is irrelevant to what Jocketty is trying to accomplish. He’s trying to fill positions. Do you think he would’ve filled the position with Renteria if there was a younger, cheaper, more productive SS on the open-market? I highly doubt it. The players within the organization simply aren’t proven or as productive as Renteria, even for this late in his career. Could they be? Absolutely. But right now, The Reds are using Renteria as a stop-gap and nothing more to the equation.

This consistent pointing out or recognition of some of these players being ex-Cardinals, as previously mentioned, is irrelevant in nature.

I’m not saying your argument is irrelevant because of the misspelling of Cincinnati. I am saying your argument is invalid because it is a theory, of which the game of baseball rarely (if at all) operates within.

4 years 7 months ago

You’re really defensive Rob. People can get the idea that Jocketty is reuniting his old world series teams because he’s acquiring players that used to be on those teams. The former Reds players on the Cardinals were never in the world series with the Reds so they’re a little less memorable (sorry).

Now, I love all those former Cardinals mentioned. But I opine that acquiring them now is a mistake. Their hey-days are far in the past.

Btw, if you are going to say my argument is invalid because I spelled Cincinnati wrong, I’m gonna go ahead and say your argument is invalid because you don’t know the meaning of the word “theology”.

Thanks,
Adam

Ethanator99
4 years 7 months ago

It can’t be a Cincinnati Reds offseason without some stupid signing.

Patterson, Taveras, Cabrera, Renteria

nohitter5714
4 years 7 months ago

I don’t believe Jocketty signed Patterson or Taveras. He did sign Cabrera, which led to the Reds making the playoffs for the first time in 15 years. I’d hardly call that a stupid signing. Say what you want about him but Jocketty knows how to assemble a ball club and organization.

simmonaj
4 years 7 months ago

I don’t like this signing but I agree with you Walt knows what he is doing, has proved it over time. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt.

simmonaj
4 years 7 months ago

I don’t like this signing but I agree with you Walt knows what he is doing, has proved it over time. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt.

Ferrariman
4 years 7 months ago

your right, because signing cabrera and his awesome 2010 was the reason the Reds went to the playoffs…

4 years 7 months ago

Haters gonna hate/second place/haha Albert’s leaving.

Ethanator99
4 years 7 months ago

It can’t be a Cincinnati Reds offseason without some stupid signing.

Patterson, Taveras, Cabrera, Renteria

NickyP717
4 years 7 months ago

The reds have only three former cardinals on their team, all of which will be bench players. Unless you count Rolen splitting time at third.

Stl_Great
4 years 7 months ago

Yeah, Rolen will be splitting time with the season he had last year.

robdicken
4 years 7 months ago

Yeah, not sure where you’re getting that Rolen will be splitting time at third…

NickyP717
4 years 7 months ago

The reds have only three former cardinals on their team, all of which will be bench players. Unless you count Rolen splitting time at third.

Bye Bye Baby Bonanza
4 years 7 months ago

Last season Renteria started off hot and ended scalding hot. Living in mediocrity and the disabled list in between. Best of luck to you next year, Renteria and Cincinnati.

redsreignbegins
4 years 7 months ago

a positive post, WTF is wrong with you. Get a life…