White Sox Notes: Kubel, Danks, Peavy, Guillen

The Cubs are looking for a new GM and they appear to be considering White Sox assistant GM Rick Hahn for the job opening. Here’s the latest on the White Sox, as they prepare for their weekend series in Seattle…


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35 Comments on "White Sox Notes: Kubel, Danks, Peavy, Guillen"


Remington
3 years 11 months ago

Gotta love Weaver. One of the 5 best pitchers in baseball taking a hometown discount. “how much more could you possibly need?”

Baseballfan83
3 years 11 months ago

I love him taking the discount to stay home, but at the same time i totally understand guys taking as much as they can get you only play for 15 or 20 years and then have a long life left after. 

3 years 11 months ago

Weaver also said “If you can’t take care of your family for generations with 85 million you’re stupid.”

JamieHavs
3 years 11 months ago

Jake Peavy already talking about 2012? God, he really should have gone to the Cubs

Palehose
3 years 11 months ago

If you watched the White Sox, you’d realize that they’re a .500 team in a sub-par division this year. Everyone is under-performing except Paul Konerko, and several players are hitting the DL as of late. Competing or not, though, Peavy says this because he needs to continue strengthening himself after his back surgery. Just as the article states. Throw in as many Cub jokes as you want, but he has a point.

shysox
3 years 11 months ago

Mark Buehrle – not underperforming
Carlos Quentin – not underperforming
Juan Pierre – not underperforming
A.J. Pierzynski – not underperforming 
Jesse Crain – not underperforming
Sergio Santos – not underperforming
Matt Thornton – not underperforming
Will Ohman – not underperforming
Chris Sale – not underperforming
Brent Lillibridge – not underperforming
Tyler Flowers – not underperforming
Alexei Ramirez – slightly underperforming

It’s Dunn, Rios, and Beckham’s fault. F*cking embarrassing baseball from those three. Also, Peavy sucks too. Floyd is not doing well either. Imagine where this team would be if Rios and Dunn produced like they did last year and beckham got traded for someone.

3 years 11 months ago

Juan Pierre has been terrible in the field. He single handedly lost 3-4 games in the beginning of the season. The combination of Pierre and Rios in the OF is atrocious. Matt thornton has been average. His fastball is too straight. 

vtadave
3 years 11 months ago

Which games did Pierre lose?

JacksTigers
3 years 11 months ago

That and the fact that the Indians are overperforming and the Tigers have several players putting together career years like Peralta and Valverde. And perhaps Avila and Boesch. (Too early in their careers to tell)

jwsox
3 years 11 months ago

Because the cubs had a true deal on the table for him right? And of course the shoulder injury never would have happened if he was in the friendly confines right?

JamieHavs
3 years 11 months ago

No, dude. I was referring to the fact that eventhough they aren’t eliminated he is already speaking with a “wait til next year attitude” like he IS Playing on the north side. I’m a Sox fan as well. It’s frustrating. He should be pumped to show what he can do in his next start, not 2012.

Baseballfan83
3 years 11 months ago

The White Sox are out of it they are fine talking about next year.

3 years 11 months ago

I remember when the Braves were in on him and they had an offer around Yunel Escobar and a bunch of pretty good prospects who eventually turned into nothing but good thing the Padres declined because they would have given up Peavy for Escobar.

jeffmaz
3 years 11 months ago

Peavey is looking forward to his next freak injury.

3 years 11 months ago

We have no idea if Hahn is any good or not, but we know without question that Kenny Williams is one of the worst GMs in baseball. So this should be easy, right?

jwsox
3 years 11 months ago

Why exactly is Kenny one of the worst gms in baseball? He has only made two trades if recent memory that he lost, the first swisher deal and the first Jackson deal. Even the first swisher trade was only a loss because of Gio. Ryan Sweeney never amounted to anything. The second swisher deal was a 100% salary dump. Teams never get anything back if substance in salary dumps. Dont bring up Dunn because every person all let baseball said he would be amazing in the cell and is having a bad year. Rios was good last year and no o e expected him to be like this either. There are some trades he should have made. Halladay Or Adrian but who knows if those were real deals. He took a bad team and made them a year in and year out contender also brought a world series to this city for the first time in 100 years. So why is he a bad gm?

3 years 11 months ago

Way more then two. Both Swisher Trades, the Jake Peavey trade, Edwin trade,  claiming Rios, the Teahen trade. Not only have we given up good prospects that are now contributing in the majors we also took on a lot of money. 

jwsox
3 years 11 months ago

Besides Hudson and Gio who are these big time prospects? The second swisher deal again was a salary dump teahan deal was a nit a bad trade but a bad extension that’s off the books now. The Jackson deal was short sighted yes but considering Kenny thought he was getting Dunn and Hudson was nit favored in the organization it’s bad but not horrible. And the peavy trade? Peavy has racked up more WAR in less starts than Richard so we technically won that trade. At first the rios claim look bad. Last year it looked great this year not so much. Also the sox have a very very rich owner who is committed to winning and the payroll isnt that much higher than it has been before. Plus a ton of money off the books this off season. So again why is Kenny a bad gm ?

disgustedcubfan
3 years 11 months ago

I don’t think the White Sox “technically” won the Peavy trade.  Richard is under Padre team control for a few more years making low end MLB money.  He still has a big upside.
Peavy, on the other hand, cost the White Sox I believe 16 million this year for 5 wins, 18 million next year, and then a 4 million dollar buyout. Also, he is a China doll. Every pitch could be his last.
He probably will be 100% healthy just in time to cash that $4,000,000 buyout check from the Sox and move on as a free agent.
Kenny would dump Peavy in a second if he could find a taker.

gunsnascar
3 years 11 months ago

Dont waste your time he is in love with Kenny Williams.

Fifty_Five
3 years 11 months ago

It’s really beginning to seem like there are 25 “worst GMs in baseball.” Dude every single GM screws up a ton with the exception of AA and Friedman (for now at least). So who really is the worst? Kenny Williams? Loria? Bill Smith? MacPhail? I saw someone the other day try to make a case for Rizzo being the worst; his argument beginning and ending with Werth. You guys are no better than he was. Just complaining to complain

jwsox
3 years 11 months ago

I don’t love Kenny by any means but I hate when people pick out two or three bad deals and call a gm, in this case kenny, the worst gm. When he clearly is not. He has made a few bad trades but who hasn’t. Literally every gm has made at least 1 bad trade. Even the great AA should not have traded Napoli for franky fransisco.

crashcameron
3 years 11 months ago

becuz he’s a high-risk roller that doesnt win enough. KW has won big. and lost big. that adds up to .500. but when you sign off on big contracts, take on even bigger ones (Chicago argument: Who is the worst player in baseball? Alfonso Soriano or Alex Rios. Debate amongst yourselves) it adds up to a very expensive .500
as the song goes: you’ve got to know when to fold them. Williams keeps turning cards over and the next thing you know he’s got Zach Stewart instead of Daniel Hudson. might as well just kept Hudson.gotta give him the ’05 WS, though. doesn’t get enough credit for that

disgustedcubfan
3 years 11 months ago

Don’t forget Masset (still pitching for the Reds) for Griffey Jr. The Manny pick up last September also didn’t work out too well.

Kendall Adkins
3 years 11 months ago

Why are Danks and Weaver even being mentioned in the same breathe? Weaver is in the top 5 in baseball. 

jwsox
3 years 11 months ago

Service time is the same that’s all

jwsox
3 years 11 months ago

Escobar and another midlevel prospect for kubal? Thoughts?

3 years 11 months ago

We don’t need Kubel. How many slow, HR or nothing players do we need on this team? We paid Dunn, might as well live with it with hopes he finds his swing /hope…… I wish we could get rid of Rios… I keep hearing he has made adjustments at the plate only to watch him swing at arm motion and hit a 2 hopper to the pitcher with a runner on 3rd and 1 out. 

jwsox
3 years 11 months ago

A lefty that can actually hit homeruns. I think the sox need that.

3 years 11 months ago

He has 9 in AOA 50 less AB’s than Dunn. 

Loody
3 years 11 months ago

I don’t know if the White Sox would discuss trading Peavy in the offseason, but if I were the Mets I would be all over that. Perhaps the Sox could swap bad contract for bad contract of a Bay/Bobby Parnell combo for Peavy. The thing is, if he is open to it which he has been in the past, I envision Peavy as a closer for the Mets. Alderson had success in Oakland converting a successful starting pitcher into a dominant closer, I can see Peavy doing the same.

windycitywarrior
3 years 11 months ago

That is a good proposal. The Sox could plug Bay in left and put Parnell as a set up man. That might even allow for a Quentin trade. In a hitter friendly park Bay would kill like he did at Fenway. I think Peavy would make a good closer too because he is awesome for a few innings and slowly deteriorates until the 5th and then he just implodes.

Loody
3 years 11 months ago

What I love about it from Peavy’s perspective is that if he is successful and dominant at closing (I think he would be), it only increases his free agent value as teams would view him as an elite closer or a possible starter. Keep in mind he also has connections in the Mets front office from his San Diego days with Alderson and Depodesta.

Met fans tend to think that the way you rebuild is to bring in all blue chip prospects. That is only part of it. Sometimes the way you rebuild your team is to think outside the box and get creative. If they acquired Peavy and he turned into a dominant closer at 31, he could be with the Mets for the next 5 years when they hopefully will be a real good team. Again, think Eckersley for the Athletics. It is a very good fit.

I also like Bay and Parnell in Chicago. All three of these players are still guys with talent, just could be they are in need of a change of scenery. 

jwsox
3 years 11 months ago

I actually like this deal. Could you imagine how good the mets could be if peavy comes into 2012 100% healthy as a starter with johan right there too haha damn that would be nuts. I also think peavy and his bull dog mentality would thrive in new York

Loody
3 years 11 months ago

What about Peavy as the Mets closer? :) 
I seriously  – and I am a baseball realist – think that Peavy as a closer could be as good and as dominant as any closer that has been around recently (excuse for Mariano “God” Rivera). 
I also see Bay thriving in Chicago and in that stadium. He has been dreadful to watch as a Met but he hustles EVERYTHING out and plays hard. I just think it is a case of a player being a wrong fit for an organization. 

God I love this idea.