East Links: Ramos, Red Sox, Jones

A late-night snack for those of you with a hunger for news on baseball's two Eastern divisions:

  • Even after his kidnapping, Nationals catcher Wilson Ramos plans to begin playing for the Aragua Tigres on Wednesday of this week, tweets Mark Zuckerman of CSNwashington.com.
  • FOX Sports' Ken Rosenthal tweets that the Red Sox will conduct a second interview with Dale Sveum and least one other candidate in their search for a new manager.
  • While the organization doesn't sound like they're considering the idea, CSNbaltimore's Rich Dubroff wonders if the Orioles should entertain the thought of trading Adam Jones. Dubroff quotes one rival scout who thinks they should hang onto the 26-year-old center fielder, saying: "If they're willing to move him, they're stupid."

53 Responses to East Links: Ramos, Red Sox, Jones Leave a Reply

  1. wickedkevin 4 years ago

    Fool me once, shame on you…fool me twice, shame on me.  Good luck Ramos.

    • Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

      I don’t blame him for going back, but me personally, I’d take time off and try to recuperate from an experience like that.

      I’m sure he’ll have more security this time though.

      • Reportedly, he wants to get back to playing because playing will be the best thing for him psychologically.  And yes, he has more security now.  The really sad part about all this is that although he lives in the “bad part” of town, he had been planning to move, with his family, to a safer neighborhood…on December 1st.  Think that’s getting moved up a little.

  2. qbass187 4 years ago

    FYI: The Orioles ARE stupid! Duh..

  3. Boobies

  4. Devern Hansack 4 years ago

    The Orioles have two years of team control on Jones, who will be worth 3.4 and 3.9 WAR respectively if he improves by 0.5 WAR (standard aging curve) over each of those seasons. It’d be silly not to see what type of prospects he could fetch.

    • When you suck, I’d argue that it’s stupid to NOT see if you can get lots of potentially good future pieces for a good one now that really isn’t helping you do anything but finish last.

      • Rabbitov 4 years ago

        Its a good and valid point, unless that player is 26 and under team control for the foreseeable future, with upside to INCREASE his trade value.  Granted there is risk he could get hurt / decline, but at 26, with his pedigree, its worth continuing to monitor. 

    • Khabibulan 4 years ago

      The could probably get Seattle’s entire farm system for Jones.

      • Matt Moore 4 years ago

        Or the Nats.

        • FS54 4 years ago

          Really? in which reality?

        • Yeah, right.  The ’07 Nats farm, yeah, but dream on now.  Do you realize just how much progress Rizzo has made in that system?  This ain’t your Expos-firesold, Bowden-dumpster-diving, farm system anymore.

      • Maybe their cows and chickens. But no way the M’s would give up Walker or Hultzen for Jones.

      • Rabbitov 4 years ago

        Irony FTW 

  5. “If they are willing to move him they’re stupid” Solid ESPN analyist take on Adam Jones. Very sound arguement.

    • Yeah.  I would have said “If they’re willing to move him for anything anyone’s going to offer for him, they’re stupid.”

    • Rabbitov 4 years ago

      I’m gonna be honest.  Nothing I love more than bashing ESPN.  I think they find their experts on Neptune. 

  6. Bleed_Orange 4 years ago

    Though I would be very sad to see Adam go, I think its at least time to test the market and see what he could command.

  7. I don’t really see Adam Jones becoming 4 WAR player. He’s above average but not great.  Unless he can improve his walk rate (it’s around 5%) 

    • He’s not average at all. He’s one of the best CFers in baseball.

      • He’s one of the best CFers in baseball. No, he “Could” be one of the best CF’ers in Baseball. Call up the A’s and ask them for Cahill and Gio Gonzalez and see what they say!

        • Rabbitov 4 years ago

          No, he is one of the best CF’s in baseball no matter what you think about him.  

          • Well if he is among the best, then the A’s should have no problems coughing up Gonzalez and Cahill to us then.

          • He is one of the best. Who’s better? Kemp, Granderson, McCutchen, and Ellsbury for sure. Maybe Victorino. He’s a pretty damn good player. I don’t think the Orioles would want Cahill and Gonzalez. Gonzalez is getting worse every year, and Cahill gets killed in that division.

          • He is one of the best. Who’s better? Kemp, Granderson, McCutchen, and Ellsbury for sure. Maybe Victorino. He’s a pretty damn good player. I don’t think the Orioles would want Cahill and Gonzalez. Gonzalez is getting worse every year, and Cahill gets killed in that division.

    • 4 WAR? I doubt it. 3.5 WAR? Quite possible.

  8. LUWahooNatFan 4 years ago

    Don’t agree with Ramos’ decision to stay.. but, oh well

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      start_wearing_purple 4 years ago

      Odds are he’ll have a few extra bodyguards.

    • Apparently he wants to play as part of his psych recovery.  And he and his family are moving to a better neighborhood.  And they’ll have security.

  9. Why is moving Jones stupid? Yes, he’s a very good centerfielder and he’s young, but for the right price, why not?

  10. drumzalicious 4 years ago

    Adam Jones to the Braves makes a ton of sense. Too much sense in fact. The Orioles want some pitching and the Braves need a RHH OF with some pop and range.

    J.J. Hoover
    Matt Lipka

    For Jones sounds solid

    • Teharen and Lipka for Jones

    • Rabbitov 4 years ago

      It is very hard to justify trading a major league CF, who has a gold glove, who is looking better each year and is only 26.  While in a vacuum that isn’t a terrible deal, the Orioles won’t trade him for that. 

  11. Jim McGrath 4 years ago

    You have to trade something good to get something good. Would you trade Markakis before Jones? A good player and two years of control is worth a lot to GM’s. I would still choose Markakis.
    Ellsbury is a better player with two years left, what would he be worth to the Braves or other teams?

    • Bleed_Orange 4 years ago

      Yes if the price was right I think they would trade Markakis, but considering what the O’s would ask for and the money still on his contract I dont see him going anywhere

      • Rabbitov 4 years ago

        Markakis’s trade value is way too low right now given his contract and declining offensive performance.  Jones’s value, to some, will never be higher.  I think with Jones about to reach his prime (based on age) it really makes no sense to trade him until we see how his value can climb, or even more importantly, if he can actually help the team go over the hump.  

        Given there are risks such as injury and decline but thats baseball.  

  12. Andrew Rosner 4 years ago

    Have a feeling the other Sox managerial candidate is Lamont….I have a feeling that Sveum will be chosen though

  13. LUWahooNatFan 4 years ago

    After being kidnapped at gunpoint? Yes, I did.

  14. wickedkevin 4 years ago

    Saved in a major shootout…yes.  I did too.

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