East Links: Ramos, Red Sox, Jones

A late-night snack for those of you with a hunger for news on baseball's two Eastern divisions:

  • Even after his kidnapping, Nationals catcher Wilson Ramos plans to begin playing for the Aragua Tigres on Wednesday of this week, tweets Mark Zuckerman of CSNwashington.com.
  • FOX Sports' Ken Rosenthal tweets that the Red Sox will conduct a second interview with Dale Sveum and least one other candidate in their search for a new manager.
  • While the organization doesn't sound like they're considering the idea, CSNbaltimore's Rich Dubroff wonders if the Orioles should entertain the thought of trading Adam Jones. Dubroff quotes one rival scout who thinks they should hang onto the 26-year-old center fielder, saying: "If they're willing to move him, they're stupid."


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53 Comments on "East Links: Ramos, Red Sox, Jones"


wickedkevin
3 years 9 months ago

Fool me once, shame on you…fool me twice, shame on me.  Good luck Ramos.

Phillies_Aces35
3 years 9 months ago

I don’t blame him for going back, but me personally, I’d take time off and try to recuperate from an experience like that.

I’m sure he’ll have more security this time though.

3 years 9 months ago

Reportedly, he wants to get back to playing because playing will be the best thing for him psychologically.  And yes, he has more security now.  The really sad part about all this is that although he lives in the “bad part” of town, he had been planning to move, with his family, to a safer neighborhood…on December 1st.  Think that’s getting moved up a little.

qbass187
3 years 9 months ago

FYI: The Orioles ARE stupid! Duh..

3 years 9 months ago

Boobies

tiger313
3 years 9 months ago

dislike.

3 years 9 months ago

You dislike boobies? Woooow

wickedkevin
3 years 9 months ago

You’re lucky that’s all they call you.

3 years 9 months ago

I dare them to call me worse..

3 years 9 months ago

I applaud the clever way you changed both of those.  I like it.

JacksTigers
3 years 9 months ago

Too soon.

3 years 9 months ago

yeah i apologize

Lunchbox45
3 years 9 months ago

its never too late to edit 

3 years 9 months ago

just did it’s kinda awesome

wickedkevin
3 years 9 months ago

#winning

Devern Hansack
3 years 9 months ago

“It’s too late to apologize…it’s too late.” – Timbaland

cookmeister
3 years 9 months ago

One Republic

Phillies_Aces35
3 years 9 months ago

“It’s not too late, it’s never too late.” – Three Days Grace.

Rabbitov
3 years 9 months ago

In one fell swoop you have gained my respect for life. 

Devern Hansack
3 years 9 months ago

The Orioles have two years of team control on Jones, who will be worth 3.4 and 3.9 WAR respectively if he improves by 0.5 WAR (standard aging curve) over each of those seasons. It’d be silly not to see what type of prospects he could fetch.

3 years 9 months ago

When you suck, I’d argue that it’s stupid to NOT see if you can get lots of potentially good future pieces for a good one now that really isn’t helping you do anything but finish last.

Rabbitov
3 years 9 months ago

Its a good and valid point, unless that player is 26 and under team control for the foreseeable future, with upside to INCREASE his trade value.  Granted there is risk he could get hurt / decline, but at 26, with his pedigree, its worth continuing to monitor. 

Khabibulan
3 years 9 months ago

The could probably get Seattle’s entire farm system for Jones.

MattCMoore
3 years 9 months ago

Or the Nats.

FS54
3 years 9 months ago

Really? in which reality?

3 years 9 months ago

Yeah, right.  The ’07 Nats farm, yeah, but dream on now.  Do you realize just how much progress Rizzo has made in that system?  This ain’t your Expos-firesold, Bowden-dumpster-diving, farm system anymore.

3 years 9 months ago

Maybe their cows and chickens. But no way the M’s would give up Walker or Hultzen for Jones.

Rabbitov
3 years 9 months ago

Irony FTW 

3 years 9 months ago

“If they are willing to move him they’re stupid” Solid ESPN analyist take on Adam Jones. Very sound arguement.

3 years 9 months ago

Yeah.  I would have said “If they’re willing to move him for anything anyone’s going to offer for him, they’re stupid.”

Rabbitov
3 years 9 months ago

I’m gonna be honest.  Nothing I love more than bashing ESPN.  I think they find their experts on Neptune. 

Bleed_Orange
3 years 9 months ago

Though I would be very sad to see Adam go, I think its at least time to test the market and see what he could command.

3 years 9 months ago

I don’t really see Adam Jones becoming 4 WAR player. He’s above average but not great.  Unless he can improve his walk rate (it’s around 5%) 

3 years 9 months ago

He’s not average at all. He’s one of the best CFers in baseball.

3 years 9 months ago

He’s one of the best CFers in baseball. No, he “Could” be one of the best CF’ers in Baseball. Call up the A’s and ask them for Cahill and Gio Gonzalez and see what they say!

Rabbitov
3 years 9 months ago

No, he is one of the best CF’s in baseball no matter what you think about him.  

3 years 9 months ago

Well if he is among the best, then the A’s should have no problems coughing up Gonzalez and Cahill to us then.

3 years 9 months ago

He is one of the best. Who’s better? Kemp, Granderson, McCutchen, and Ellsbury for sure. Maybe Victorino. He’s a pretty damn good player. I don’t think the Orioles would want Cahill and Gonzalez. Gonzalez is getting worse every year, and Cahill gets killed in that division.

3 years 9 months ago

He is one of the best. Who’s better? Kemp, Granderson, McCutchen, and Ellsbury for sure. Maybe Victorino. He’s a pretty damn good player. I don’t think the Orioles would want Cahill and Gonzalez. Gonzalez is getting worse every year, and Cahill gets killed in that division.

3 years 9 months ago

4 WAR? I doubt it. 3.5 WAR? Quite possible.

LUWahooNatFan
3 years 9 months ago

Don’t agree with Ramos’ decision to stay.. but, oh well

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start_wearing_purple
3 years 9 months ago

Odds are he’ll have a few extra bodyguards.

3 years 9 months ago

Apparently he wants to play as part of his psych recovery.  And he and his family are moving to a better neighborhood.  And they’ll have security.

3 years 9 months ago

Why is moving Jones stupid? Yes, he’s a very good centerfielder and he’s young, but for the right price, why not?

drumzalicious
3 years 9 months ago

Adam Jones to the Braves makes a ton of sense. Too much sense in fact. The Orioles want some pitching and the Braves need a RHH OF with some pop and range.

Minor
Spruill
J.J. Hoover
Matt Lipka

For Jones sounds solid

3 years 9 months ago

Teharen and Lipka for Jones

Rabbitov
3 years 9 months ago

It is very hard to justify trading a major league CF, who has a gold glove, who is looking better each year and is only 26.  While in a vacuum that isn’t a terrible deal, the Orioles won’t trade him for that. 

Jim McGrath
3 years 9 months ago

You have to trade something good to get something good. Would you trade Markakis before Jones? A good player and two years of control is worth a lot to GM’s. I would still choose Markakis.
Ellsbury is a better player with two years left, what would he be worth to the Braves or other teams?

Bleed_Orange
3 years 9 months ago

Yes if the price was right I think they would trade Markakis, but considering what the O’s would ask for and the money still on his contract I dont see him going anywhere

Rabbitov
3 years 9 months ago

Markakis’s trade value is way too low right now given his contract and declining offensive performance.  Jones’s value, to some, will never be higher.  I think with Jones about to reach his prime (based on age) it really makes no sense to trade him until we see how his value can climb, or even more importantly, if he can actually help the team go over the hump.  

Given there are risks such as injury and decline but thats baseball.  

Andrew Rosner
3 years 9 months ago

Have a feeling the other Sox managerial candidate is Lamont….I have a feeling that Sveum will be chosen though

LUWahooNatFan
3 years 9 months ago

After being kidnapped at gunpoint? Yes, I did.

wickedkevin
3 years 9 months ago

Saved in a major shootout…yes.  I did too.