Owners, Players Reach New CBA

FRIDAY, 2:42pm: The sides will announce the deal Tuesday, according to Rosenthal, who says the delay appears to be logistical (Twitter links).

THURSDAY, 6:58pm: The deal is "really, really close," tweets Buster Olney of ESPN.com, who adds that it's not done yet but the announcement is close.

6:35pm: There is a "conceptual agreement" for the new labor deal, hears Jon Heyman of SI.com, but there are still some specific details to finalize, such as a draft tax (Twitter).

6:01pm: The owners and players have settled on a new, five-year collective bargaining agreement which will be officially announced on Monday, a source tells Ken Rosenthal of FOXSports.com (Twitter links).

Among the expected changes, according to the Associated Press: The newly sold Astros will join the American League in 2013, and Interleague Play will go on throughout the season to account for the odd number of teams in each league. Five teams will make the postseason from each league, perhaps as soon as in 2012.

We learned yesterday that the old compensation system for free agents should remain in place for this offseason, although some will change immediately, according to Rosenthal.


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132 Comments on "Owners, Players Reach New CBA"


55saveslives
3 years 9 months ago

NBA Sucks!

chico65
3 years 9 months ago

Billy Hunter and DeMaurice Smith should be taking lessons

John
3 years 9 months ago

Notes?

3 years 9 months ago

Really you tell me what Smith did wrong.As far as i know the only sport to not have their championship not played in a season was MLB back in 1994.I love baseball but that is a fact

John
3 years 9 months ago

You’re joking right?

3 years 9 months ago

If Hunter and Smith suck than Bud Selig and Donald Fehr really suck

The_BiRDS
3 years 9 months ago

Nothing sucks more than the NBA.. what a joke

3 years 9 months ago

I am more of a college basketball fan but i cant say the NBA is a joke.It is not what it use to be but i can’t say it is a joke.Now the owners and players still not coming to an agreement is a big joke

Phillies_Aces35
3 years 9 months ago

It’s a joke. It’s entertaining, but it’s a joke. If you don’t have 2 stars you have no chance of going to the playoffs.

wickedkevin
3 years 9 months ago

A.  You only need one star.  Lebron on Cavs.
b.  That would be true if half the league did not make the playoffs.

Phillies_Aces35
3 years 9 months ago

One star, fine, I’ll agree with that.

3 years 9 months ago

more than half the league
8/15 teams from each league make it. That’s TOO MANY.

The_BiRDS
3 years 9 months ago

College Basket is no joke.. NBA is a bunch of millionaires jumping around playing for themselves. 

kurt hartel
3 years 9 months ago

bud aka butt selig is kinda old, he made what like 17 mil last year or whatever….the guy jerks the chains hes just a puppet, he has no balls. does he even know anything about baseball

3 years 9 months ago

FLASE the NHL didn’t have a season in 04-05. 

3 years 9 months ago

NHL 2004-2005 Season

Lanidrac
3 years 9 months ago

The NHL lost a whole season.  Even the ’94 baseball strike wasn’t that long.

UncleCharles
3 years 9 months ago

Millions of Canadians now hate you.

3 years 9 months ago

Nice!

inleylandwetrust
3 years 9 months ago

Nice work! I wouldn’t be able to handle a cancelled season…

3 years 9 months ago

I was dreading it after seeing the NBA. I don’t think I could take another MLB season being ripped from us.

wrestlingcritic
3 years 9 months ago

I’d be catatonic

3 years 9 months ago

Looks like the Cubs will reach the playoffs before we have another NBA season.

iheartyourfart
3 years 9 months ago

let’s not get carried away

3 years 9 months ago

With the new playoff system you may be right.

Guest
3 years 9 months ago

Haha

Gregory
3 years 9 months ago

No surprise here. And with the expanded playoffs, teams like the Jays have a better chance of making the playoffs (although it helps the Yanks and Red Sox as well..)

3 years 9 months ago

The AL East could have 3 teams in the playoffs. Talk about competitive balance. 

3 years 9 months ago

hey, if they’re the best three teams, then tough luck. And I’m a Dodger fan, so no East Coast homer here

Gregory
3 years 9 months ago

While MLB players are getting ready for the upcoming season, NBA players continue to fight with the owners..

monkeyspanked
3 years 9 months ago

NBA take note.  It’s called an AGREEMENT!

The_BiRDS
3 years 9 months ago

Among the expected changes, according to the Associated Press: The Astros will join the American League. Five teams will make the postseason from each league, Beer will finally be sold at decent prices, and Interleague Play will be extended into September.

Dave
3 years 9 months ago

The Yankees will also be guaranteed a playoff spot as well as a first and second round bye in order to keep the ratings for the World Series up.  

Dale Latimer
3 years 9 months ago

Keep wishing on the beer…

ateam043
3 years 9 months ago

$13 @ Dodgers Stadium (Premium Beer)

The_BiRDS
3 years 9 months ago

Interesting… Out of curiosity, what are the prices for beer around the baseball world???

Busch Stadium: $8.50 Budlight or Bud…. $9.25 during playoffs

Guest
3 years 9 months ago

 $7.50 (i think) at turner field.  i usually tailgate so i’m not positive exactly how much it costs.

The_BiRDS
3 years 9 months ago

I wonder which team has the cheapest?

3 years 9 months ago

Not the Yankees…

3 years 9 months ago

Chase Field (Diamondbacks) is $4

Guest
3 years 9 months ago

You would think they would have the cheapest beer =/

The_BiRDS
3 years 9 months ago

ya I know… No hometown discount

3 years 9 months ago

A beer at Rangers Ballpark is about $7-$8 dollars.

johnsmith4
3 years 9 months ago

$11.50 at Rogers Centre

Patrick Beliveau
3 years 9 months ago

link to teammarketing.com
The Fan Cost Index has beer prices.

not_brooks
3 years 9 months ago

Can’t wait to see the matchups during the September pennant races!

Phillies vs. Orioles, Rangers vs. Pirates, D-Backs vs. Royals

Oh, wait…

3 years 9 months ago

I would vote Cal Ripken to be the next commish.

The_BiRDS
3 years 9 months ago

I guess… he would never call in sick.

Crucisnh
3 years 9 months ago

Somehow, I don’t think you’ll be seeing any ex-players as the commissioner.  After all, it’s the owners, not the players, that vote for the commish.

johnsilver
3 years 9 months ago

Got them close already.. Joe Torre, Yankee Bob Watson… Both players.. Maybe from the 60/70’s..But players nevertheless.

The New Age Outlaws
3 years 9 months ago

I don’t agree with almost any of the changes, but the important part is there will be baseball for the next three years.

John McFadin
3 years 9 months ago

Don’t you mean five?

wrestlingcritic
3 years 9 months ago

I like the ideas of Extended Interleague play. I wonder how many games there will be and if it will start in 2012? Wish Astros were coming over next year, but I like the move in the interest of fairness. Good going all around.

3 years 9 months ago

30 interleague games. And it will start in 2013 when the Astros move over. The scheduling should work out like this: 

18 games against each division opponent, 72 games;

6 games against each non-division opponent in the same league, 60 games;

3 games against each opponent in the geographically corresponding division in the other league, eg NL West vs AL West, 15 games;

3 games against each opponent in one of the other two divisions in the other league, rotating every other year, eg NL West vs. AL Central one year and AL East the next, 15 games.

wrestlingcritic
3 years 9 months ago

sounds good to me

3 years 9 months ago

If this move was truly in the name of fairness, then a team like the Milwaukee Brewers, who have a long history of being an AL franchise would move to the AL rather than the Astros. 

Lanidrac
3 years 9 months ago

You forget that Selig is a former Brewers owner. Now that they’ve had it both ways, I think Selig likes his team playing the more strategic NL style of baseball.

Karkat
3 years 9 months ago

Am I the only one dreading the details of this?

Duke15
3 years 9 months ago

The expected one game playoff round HAS to be between the worst AL wild card and worst NL wild card right???

dylanp5030
3 years 9 months ago

Huh? How would that work? Then u have a extra team in one league.

proof2006
3 years 9 months ago

how would that make sense or even work. It will obviously be between the 2 nl wild cards and the 2 al wildcards. each winner will advance to their respective division series.

The_BiRDS
3 years 9 months ago

Im assuming thats just a name and you did not attend Duke

Duke15
3 years 9 months ago

I know it wouldn’t work out in a traditional playoff format… But now there is hardly any merit to actually winning the wild card. The fifth best team in each league is pretty watered down… Now we’re saying that the team with the 4th best record can lose its playoff season in one game? Doesn’t seem to make much sense.

I didn’t actually think thats how it would work, I just don’t like the fact that a 4th place finish is now diluted to the point that they might not see a playoff series. Now all of a sudden if you don’t win your division your chances at a playoff run are a crapshoot. Not a fan.

The_BiRDS
3 years 9 months ago

No I agree.. but AL playing the NL for a wildcard spot and as the first round of the playoffs is… for lack of a better term gobbledygook

kingoriole
3 years 9 months ago

While it adds a team that might not merit inclusion, it strengthens the division winners advantage in the playoffs. Before a wild card was just as advantageous in the playoffs as winning your division. So it essentially strengthens two races (3rd vs. 4th, and 5th vs. 6th) while weakening one (4th vs. 5th).
It also opens the playoffs with two one-game-eliminations. Building mucho excitement.

Excellent move.

Duke15
3 years 9 months ago

The problem here is that the competition is not evenly distributed across divisions. The AL East should have two playoff teams pretty much every year. So now the second place team in that division, even though it dominates the season (and the 1st place race is close, usually), now has its chances cut in half.

The best part about the wild card originally was that it fixes the disparity amongst divisions by allowing the next most deserving team to make the playoffs. This is a brutal move. I think more will agree when they see the twins beating up on the softies in the AL central and the Sox and Yanks are killing each other for one spot.

kingoriole
3 years 9 months ago

Lack of competition distribution would argue for an extra wild card, not against. Because there are 3 powerhouses in the East with another sleeping giant, an extra wild card helps that fact, not hurts it.

The argument against the wildcard moving down to the 4 seed and adding a play-in game assumes the wildcard is often the second best team in the league, when it clearly isn’t usually the case.

2011 both wild cards were 4th.
2010 wildcards were 2nd and 4th.
2009 both wildcards were 3rd.
2008 both wildcards were 3rd.
2007 wildcards were 2nd (tied first) and 4th.
2006 both wildcards were 3rd.

12 wildcards. Four 4th place, six 3rd place, and only two 2nd place finishers. Also the crux of this argument isn’t even that their eliminated, just that they have to play a play-in game. So now either the Sox or Yankees will have a single game elimination every year in October. Sounds exciting.

Duke15
3 years 9 months ago

I first think it is a mistake to takes a teams raw record as a gauge. There were four .500 teams in the AL East last year. Four.  Playing 72 games (about) per year within the division takes a huge toll on those teams records.

But even still, you cite 5 non last place teams, to four 4th placers  (also nice job stopping arbitrarily at 2006 when you have another 2nd and 3rd, and another 2nd and 3rd in ’05 and ’04). Now your telling me that the MAJORITY of the recent wild card winning teams would have been chalking up there chances to a playoff run at the craps table.

I’m not debating “excitement,” here. Obviously, a one game playoff to decide your season is as intense as it gets. But this is as good as elimination of a wild card because any team can win one game. Its absolutely ludicrous to have your deserving season hang in balance on one game. The division series is garbage as it is with it being 5 games…

bruce buschmann
3 years 9 months ago

Why are they moving the Astros instead of returning the Brewers to the AL?

The_BiRDS
3 years 9 months ago

Cheaper flights

John McFadin
3 years 9 months ago

Selig would never let his beloved Brewers change back to the AL.

3 years 9 months ago

The actual reason is that owners have veto power over a move, but since Crane is an incoming owner, the league put the screws to him and basically made a move a condition of his approval.

Crucisnh
3 years 9 months ago

Very true.  There are other reasons, but this is a huge one.

3 years 9 months ago

Is there a fried chicken, beer, and video games clause/provision in the new deal?

essmeier
3 years 9 months ago

Great.  That means no work stoppage.  Now we have to find a way to:

Keep the Astros in the National League
Get rid of constant interleague play (or eliminate it altogether)
Get rid of all wild card teams
Get rid of the designated hitter
Get rid of Bud Selig

Work remains….

FacelessGeneralManager
3 years 9 months ago

Ummm, wow. So basically redo this CBA.

Jeff
3 years 9 months ago

2 expansion teams in the AL, maybe the Astros back, 4 8-team divisions 14 in own division 8 in the others, and ban the DH.

Easy solution.

3 years 9 months ago

or contract two teams so the rosters aren’t watered down with guys like Chin-Lung Hu and Jason Pridie, to name a few from the Mets

3 years 9 months ago

Oh I see you want to go back to 1945? Why not go all the way and ban minorities from playing again. Come on man. 

Crucisnh
3 years 9 months ago

I agree with disliking constant interleague play.  However, the wild card has been a complete success.  I wouldn’t have added another wildcard.  It’s been just fine as is.

Don’t worry about Selig.  He’s supposedly retiring after next season.

kingoriole
3 years 9 months ago

The wildcard playoff game will be a huge success too.

Constant interleague in exchange for teams in-division playing the exact same schedule is a great trade. The inherent unfairness of the interleague scheduling the past few years is a great thing to get rid of.

avpisano
3 years 9 months ago

Good glad its not the NBA!  Players union acting a fool!

3 years 9 months ago

Billy Hunter hates basketball

notsureifsrs
3 years 9 months ago

no agreement < this agreement < getting kicked in the shin < an agreement that didn't suck

MFH
3 years 9 months ago

Can I assume the new CBA doesn’t have anything regarding HGH testing?

3 years 9 months ago

Well that was easier than the NBA…