AL West Links: Athletics, Suzuki, Trumbo, Mariners

Five years ago today, the Rangers traded John Danks, Nick Masset, and Jacob Rasner for the White Sox for Brandon McCarthy and David Paisano. Danks developed into a rock solid starter for Chicago (and recently agreed to a big extension), but McCarthy battled injuries and pitched to a 4.68 ERA during his four years with Texas. Here's the latest from the AL West…

  • In today's Insider-only blog post, ESPN's Buster Olney says the Athletics never got into deep talks with the Reds about Gio Gonzalez, but they would not have traded the lefty for the four-player package Cincinnati gave up for Mat Latos.
  • Within the same piece, Olney wonders if the Athletics will eventually trade Kurt Suzuki after acquiring Derek Norris in the Gonzalez trade. Suzuki is under contract through 2013 for a total of $11.45MM, plus the team holds an $8.5MM club option for 2014. The 28-year-old backstop hit just .237/.301/.385 in 2011, though he's started at least 120 games behind the plate in each of the last four seasons.
  • Jon Paul Morosi of FOXSports suggests that the Angels trade Mark Trumbo this offseason while his value is high (all Twitter links). Enough teams need a power bat that there will be a market for him, and Morosi speculates about a fit between the Halos and Indians. He notes that the Angels are looking for bullpen help, and the Tribe have some arms to spare.
  • Some Athletics people were hoping the Rangers didn't win the bidding for Yu Darvish because they felt Texas could offer more for Gonzalez than what they got from the Nationals according to Danny Knobler of CBSSports.com (on Twitter).
  • Geoff Baker of The Seattle Times hears that the Mariners will declare a $6.75MM operating loss in 2011, the second largest of the Safeco Field era behind 2008 (Twitter link). Baker says the team has past surplus revenue to cover the loss.


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129 Comments on "AL West Links: Athletics, Suzuki, Trumbo, Mariners"


Guest
3 years 6 months ago

I’m surprised Beane wanted Norris from the Nationals after the .210 season he posted. What could Suzuki get back?

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Snoochies8
3 years 6 months ago

A) norris also posted a 816 OPS (.367 OBP), hitting 20 homers in AA, and throwing out 40% of baserunners, so that was a solid, moneyball pickup, dude is an on-base machine.

B) i have no idea what he could fetch, but Suzuki is definitely a fit for the rays

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3 years 6 months ago

Wasn’t aware of those stats. So how long until Beane trades those guys for other prospects? Over/under five years?

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Snoochies8
3 years 6 months ago

gun to my head, milone in 3 years, the rest stay, maybe cook is traded away if he’s solid enough

Guest
3 years 6 months ago

low babip = bad luck = low batting average. simple equation.

His defense is stellar, he hits home runs and walks like the second coming of Youkilis. His floor isn’t even close to Suzuki’s ceiling, I really hope Beane can package Baileey, Suzuki, Balfour & McCarthy for another solid chunk of prospects.

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Snoochies8
3 years 6 months ago

suzuki could fetch a decent package from the rays who’re in serious need of a solid backstop….and i’ve officially become a broken record 

Guest
3 years 6 months ago

just as long as you dont cut and paste its all good

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RocknRollFan77
3 years 6 months ago

Norris actually had OBP’s above .400 from 2008-2010. From what I read he’s had some nagging injuries the last two seasons and has played less than 100 games each of those two seasons. The last full season he playe4d he hit .286 and had 23 hr’s. He had 20 hr’s in far less at bats this past season than when he hit 23. So maybe he’s trying to muscle up too much. Either way, he’s right up the A’s alley with those high OBP’s. He’s ranked the 10th best catching prospect in all of baseball.

Oakland has been stockpiling catchers the last couple of drafts. And they just parted ways with Suzuki’s backup, Landon Powell. Suzuki is on the block because of the amount of money he makes, so there’s a lot of room for promotion if you’re a catcher in the A’s organization.

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letsgogiants
3 years 6 months ago

Though I feel like with the down year Suzuki had, the A’s might be better off holding on to him, at least until Norris can prove he is ready. They might also have Suzuki tutor Norris at the big leagues for awhile (Ala what Kendall did with Suzuki in 2007) given that Suzuki is very good at handling the pitchers and very good defensively. Point is, Suzuki’s value is pretty low and unless someone offers Beane a deal he can’t refuse, then Suzuki will most likely be the A’s opening day catcher in 2012.

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All Day Réy
3 years 6 months ago

Ouch is that a shot at the Reds or Padres..

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J.j. Miller
3 years 6 months ago

well i cant see them wanting volquez and boxberger wasnt really a need

they did ask for alonso and grandal but were turned down

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Triple Hawpes Brewed
3 years 6 months ago

Geoff Baker of The Seattle Times hears that the Mariners will declare a $6.75MM operating loss in 2011, the second largest of the Safeco Field era behind 2008.”

So……..when does King Felix get traded?

Guest
3 years 6 months ago

At least a year. I’m just curious to know what he gets traded for. If I was the Yankees, I’d go after him. I’d offer up any of Montero/Betances/Banuelos, but not two of the three. He will cost a lot. Banuelos, Romine, Sanchez, Warren, and Williams?

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commenter3346
3 years 6 months ago

I’m pretty sure the Yankees would have to have Montero in there.

Guest
3 years 6 months ago

more poignant-> are they really in on Fielder?  Not sure it would help them into the black…

Guest
3 years 6 months ago

“Baker says the team has past surplus revenue to cover the loss.” Still pretty confident he won’t be dealt. If he is ever dealt, it likely won’t be to the Yankees. Other teams have more desirable prospects and positions of need than the Yankees. I still say Pineda is more likely to get dealt than the King.

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Steven Resnick
3 years 6 months ago

Suzuki is worthless it’s just better to release him. Great guy horrible baseball player. 

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jephdood
3 years 6 months ago

I like Suzuki in everything he does except throwing out base stealers.

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J.j. Miller
3 years 6 months ago

catching is a scarce position, he’ll have value despite hitting struggles. maybe put him in a better lineup and easier hitting ballpark. definitely durable and athletic. plus he signed fairly decent cointract for 2 more yrs

since A’s could probably go cheap with a donaldson/recker combo + norris later on

Guest
3 years 6 months ago

If the Indians actually did trade for Trumbo I believe they will win the central in 2012.

Guest
3 years 6 months ago

Because they traded for Trumbo? He had a sub .300 OBP last year, and he’s going be worth 10 wins? Indians will finish 6-10 games back next year.

Guest
3 years 6 months ago

So you’re telling me that a players OBP can’t get better? I mean he hasn’t played only one full year in the majors or anything……

Guest
3 years 6 months ago

Not saying that at all. I’m saying adding him, they won’t go anywhere but 2nd place. If they added Jose Bautista, they would finish in 2nd place.

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Rangers4Life
3 years 6 months ago

Dude, look up the Tigers’ depth chart for 2012. There is not a chance in the world for the Tribe to win the AL Central just by adding Trumbo.

Guest
3 years 6 months ago

The reason they fell behind the Tigers was because of injuries. If players can stay healthy then they have a legitimate shot at the playoffs.

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3 years 6 months ago

The reason they fell behind the Tigers is because the Tigers are better. The Indians have a bad rotation and bad offense. The Tigers have a great rotation and a great line up.

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3 years 6 months ago

Sorry baseball expert.

Guest
3 years 6 months ago

Great might be an overstatement. The only ones that are great are Verlander and Cabrera.

The reality is the Tigers overperformed last year and are likely going to regress. Most notably, Fister, Young, and Avila. Even Verlander is probably going to regress as well. He will still do well, but he definitely will not win 24 games again.

Tigers fans might not like to hear this. They might be the favorite to win, but they are definitely not a lock. The division is still very wide open. You don’t know if the Royals prospects finally start clicking, or the Twins actually get a full productive season out of Mauer and Morneau, or if the Adam Dunn returns to his normal numbers and leads a potent White Sox lineup.

Ad of course the injury factor. God help the Tigers should Verlander get injured.

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Lunchbox45
3 years 6 months ago

 considering fister, and young we’re added late in the season, you kinda just proved his point no?

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dpm21
3 years 6 months ago

the indians rotation is probably just about as good as the tigers rotation. The only solid pitcher the tigers have is verlander, fisters decent, and scherzer is pretty terrible. The only bad pitcher we have is Fausto, every other pitcher plays right into our defense. The indians have a far superior bullpen and defense then the tigers do, but the tigers have better hitters. If the Tribe could get another hitter in the line up, AND we have healthy players then we are serious contenders for the central.

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Rangersfan32
3 years 6 months ago

Well I do agree that the Indians do seem close, but Trumbo wouldn’t be the answer. Fielder might put them over the top though.

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dpm21
3 years 6 months ago

the indians rotation is probably just about as good as the tigers rotation. The only solid pitcher the tigers have is verlander, fisters decent, and scherzer is pretty terrible. The only bad pitcher we have is Fausto, every other pitcher plays right into our defense. The indians have a far superior bullpen and defense then the tigers do, but the tigers have better hitters. If the Tribe could get another hitter in the line up, AND we have healthy players then we are serious contenders for the central.