Cubs Acquire Ian Stewart In Four-Player Trade

The Cubs have acquired Ian Stewart and Casey Weathers from the Rockies in exchange for Tyler Colvin and DJ LeMahieu, tweets Troy Renck of the Denver Post.

Each team acquires a 26-year-old former first round pick coming off a disappointing season. Stewart, a non-tender candidate, has long been the subject of trade rumors and hit .156/.243/.221 in limited action in 2011. Colvin, who isn't yet arbitration eligible, hit .150/.204/.306 in 222 plate appearances.

LeMahieu, 23, has a career .753 OPS in the minors and saw his first big league action for the Cubs in 2011. He'll compete for time at second and third base, according to Renck (on Twitter). Weathers, 26, was also a first-round pick, but has yet to pitch above Double-A, where he posted a 5.32 ERA in 45 2/3 innings this year. The right-hander has excellent stuff (career 11.3 K/9), but hasn't been able to control it (7.1 BB/9).

Bruce Levine of ESPN Chicago and Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports reported yesterday that the two teams were discussing a deal involving Stewart and Colvin.


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  1. Hoosierdaddy92 4 years ago

    Love this trade for both squads

  2. D.J. LeMahieu seems to have a higher Upside then Colvin IMO. Pretty excited by this trade.

    • BlueCatuli 4 years ago

      If DJ ever develops power he will be a really solid MLB player. Really bummed he is part of the deal. Wish him and Colvin the best of luck. Hope Stewart can find his power stroke at Wrigley!

      • JacksTigers 4 years ago

        Then it’s a good thing that DJ is playing with the Rockies now and it’s a bad thing that Stewart isn’t.

      • Futurecubfan 3 years ago

        Le Mahieu now batting .327 in Triple A. Colvin doing well with the Rockies. It is very hard to remain a Cubs Fan!

  3. Tommy Meyers 4 years ago

    Really disappointed to see LeMahieu go, was hoping he would start at 2nd this year

    • stewie75 4 years ago

      i thought he’d be over at third this year.

      • Tommy Meyers 4 years ago

        Ya I just figured they’d make a trade for a 3b and i’m not a fan of barney

  4. Time for the trades to begin. I can feel a 4 team 10 player swap coming up. Will be a crazy winter. 

  5. LeMahieu isn’t anything too special.  3B was a far more pressing need and Stewarts skill set and position are of far greater value than Tyler Colvin’s.  I’ll call it a win-win overall, though.

  6. InLeylandWeTrust 4 years ago

    Glad to see some more action. Feels like everything hit a major lull after the Angels moves

  7. WrigleyTerror37 4 years ago

    WTF!!!! I WANTED STEWART BUT NOT LIKE THIS :(

    • BlueCatuli 4 years ago

      What are you sad about?

      • WrigleyTerror37 4 years ago

        colvin being gone. and i wanted to see LeMahiue play more. uggh but i was expecting one for Stewart bot not both.

        • BlueCatuli 4 years ago

          Why are you upset about Colvin being involved? He was even more below replacement level than Stewart.

          • WrigleyTerror37 4 years ago

            Hes one of my favorite players. same with Stewart. Both have upside dont get me wrong. but i wanted both of them on the same team. idk im mixed on this trade.

      • WrigleyTerror37 4 years ago

        colvin being gone. and i wanted to see LeMahiue play more. uggh but i was expecting one for Stewart bot not both.

    • Fifty_Five 4 years ago

      You mad about Colvin or LeMahieu? Colvin was pretty much the worst player in the league last year

      • Coollet 4 years ago

        What about the Jays’ new backup catcher? Mathis? Heard he was pretty bad

      • Coollet 4 years ago

        What about the Jays’ new backup catcher? Mathis? Heard he was pretty bad

      • jayrig5 4 years ago

        I’m no Colvin apologist, but the Cubs set him up to fail.  They platooned him with Kosuke and played him against lefties to start the year.  That didn’t work, so they benched him, then sent him down, while ripping him publicly; it was sort of ironic to hear Hendry launch into a diatribe about how the majors are all about production.  I’d like to think Ricketts quoted that back to him when he fired him a few months later.   

        But anyway.  My point isn’t that Colvin is going to be an All-Star, but he has the talent to be way better than he performed last season, in the right situation.  It seems like the Rockies will use him like they used Seth Smith, right?  Assuming Smith gets dealt?

        I don’t follow Colorado much, but that always seemed like a decent comp for Colvin.

    • Fifty_Five 4 years ago

      You mad about Colvin or LeMahieu? Colvin was pretty much the worst player in the league last year

  8. $19253129 4 years ago

    D.J. LeMahieu a decent Cub farm hand, that has Hall of fame Status with some Cub fans.  Nice deal for both sides, Junk for Junk.

  9. yea both squads did well here. Brothers will hold off weathers and Stewart is disliked by the entire state. If stewart can get his stuff together though he’s a 40 hr 270 100 rbi guy….BIG IF

    • Whoa! Hold it buddy. 40 bombs? Let the guy get to 26 before we start talking 40.

      • formerdraftpick 4 years ago

        I think he meant 40 hours (hr) and misspelled the word ribs (rbi).  Stewart will eat 100 ribs in 40 hours not breaking any record.  However, he will be filled.

  10. missyae 4 years ago

    Good luck to Ian!!! I wish the Red Sox had him, I think he is a future all star!

  11. renegadeisback 4 years ago

    Ian Stewart away from Coors? LOL good luck.

    • MDonaldGrantstomb 4 years ago

      agreed – Ian Stewart’s window has closed

    • Yeah, that .150 average screams park effects.

    • SwingtimeInTheRockies 4 years ago

       When the wind is blowing out of tiny Wrigley, so do the fly balls.

      • Dick_Pepperfield 4 years ago

        Tiny Wrigley? Obviously you have never been there. 355 down the line is tiny now huh? Stick to Tebowing bro

        • SwingtimeInTheRockies 4 years ago

           Don’t actually Tebow and I’m gonna have to thank my mom that I’m not your “bro.”  And Yes, I’ve had the odd Old Style while sitting in Wrigley.

        • Ken Roucka 4 years ago

          How many home runs go right down the line? Few. Most go gap to gap. The gaps are listed as 368 at Wrigley and the tips of those curves in the wall are 350 or less. Center is listed at 400 but most say it’s more like 395.

    • SwingtimeInTheRockies 4 years ago

       When the wind is blowing out of tiny Wrigley, so do the fly balls.

  12. Stewart barely has a home/road split for his career and has actually performed better on the road in recent seasons.

    • BobbyJohn 4 years ago

      In 2010, the first 8 HR that Stewart launched were all on the road.

    • BobbyJohn 4 years ago

      In 2010, the first 8 HR that Stewart launched were all on the road.

  13. Funkhouser Jr. 4 years ago

    I’m a little disappointed to see Colvin and LeMahieu go, but I’m excited to see what Stewart can do.  Stewart has the most upside, but he’s far from a sure bet.  Colvin could be solid for the Rockies.  I don’t think he ever felt comfortable in Chicago.

  14. Stewart is built like the best hitter on the planet. head case…tons of natural talent though. Change of scenery for sure. Good fielder as well. I like LeMahieu due to the fact that he’s now gonna be in Coors and he seems to be a good all around hitter with no power. All we need is hits in Coors. Power will come via the altitude.

  15. I’d call it a good gamble for both teams

  16. I just do not see what Epstein sees in Stewart. I like the young pitcher, but I’m really not crazy about Stewart. He just seem like a high strikeout guy with an average glove at 3rd.

    • SwingtimeInTheRockies 4 years ago

       Actually a very good glove.  Head’s not always in the game.

    • SwingtimeInTheRockies 4 years ago

       Actually a very good glove.  Head’s not always in the game.

    • disgustedcubfan 4 years ago

      What would you expect in return for Colvin? As of today, he is a terrible hitter. This is a fair trade.

    • disgustedcubfan 4 years ago

      What would you expect in return for Colvin? As of today, he is a terrible hitter. This is a fair trade.

    • jammin502 4 years ago

      “I like the young pitcher”… He is 26 and in AA.  That is not very young.  His numbers in AA probably dictate a demotion.  Totally hate this trade from the Cubs point of view.

  17. Now this is what we call a blockbuster trade

  18. Triple Hawpes Brewed 4 years ago

    This is a classic example of a “Sanford & Son” trade, swapping junk for other junk.

  19. Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

    Good change of scenary trade for both sides. The upside is there for both those guys (Colvin and Stewart). Not too familiar with the other pieces.

  20. ChiCubs13 4 years ago

    (Sigh) If we were going to trade DJ for somebody, I would have preferred for someone better than a pitcher that is 26 and still in AA. I’m fine with Colvin for Stewart.

  21. nats2012 4 years ago

    I think Rockies won here big time. I like Colvin and DJ and I want to see good things for the Cubs, surprising move.

    • ChiCubs13 4 years ago

      How do you see the Rockies winning big time?

      • $19253129 4 years ago

        I think most Rockies fans really hate Stewart and are happy to get rid of their garbage for our garbage.  Sadly of all the players Stewart has the most upside.

        • SwingtimeInTheRockies 4 years ago

          It’s not hate, it’s just disappointment.  Would could have been.

        • I actually really liked Stewart, always have, just wondered when he’d eventually put it together.

      • nats2012 4 years ago

        I think Colvin and DJ have HUGE upside. I always thought Colvin just needed more playing time.

        • YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

          What about his lifetime .275 BA or .315 OBP in the minors scream huge upside? Other than a few hrs he’s been below average in the minors.

        • BDLugz 4 years ago

          If by huge upside you mean 4th OF and utility IF, we’re on the exact same page.

        • disgustedcubfan 4 years ago

          Have you ever watched Colvin hit? That .150 average pretty much tells you all you need to know.
          Do you really think Theo would deal a young guy with a huge upside?
           

          • I’m surprised Theo hasn’t started buying every free-agent in sight. That’s what he did best in Boston these last few years.

  22. phee17 4 years ago

    would of liked to see DJ stay with the team, he has good potential and he would of had the opportunity next season with the cubs. good change of scenery for both colvin and stewart,  hopefully the can both get back on track

  23. This has equal chances of being an incredibly eventful trade and an incredibly uneventful trade.

  24. To Cubs fans. If Stewart can make contact he’ll hit a lot of balls out of Wrigley. I thought you guys hated Colvin…

    • That depends. Wrigley rarely plays like a small ballpark anymore. The wind direction has shifted a lot over the last few years. It blows in much more than it blows out. And when it blows in, the ballpark plays big.

      I have personally always like Colvin and I was disappointed that the Cubs didn’t play him more last year. He got into a funk and lost his job within a couple weeks, was put on the bench, and then sent down. I’d like to have seen him perform over a full season.

      • BobbyJohn 4 years ago

        The wind blowing in will not matter if Stewart gets into one. He has as much raw power as almost anyone in MLB.

        No, I’m not kidding.

      • The wind direction has shifted a lot over the last few years.

        Global waqrming.

    • i don’t hate colvin. i hate his little league-esque plate approach

    • BDLugz 4 years ago

      Some fans are still in love with what they saw at the end of 2010.  He certainly has potential, but he has a lot of holes in his swing and some pretty poor PD.

      DJLM is the opposite player… he’s got great contact skills (low BB% though) but his power just hasn’t developed.  Okay defender across the infield.

    • BDLugz 4 years ago

      Some fans are still in love with what they saw at the end of 2010.  He certainly has potential, but he has a lot of holes in his swing and some pretty poor PD.

      DJLM is the opposite player… he’s got great contact skills (low BB% though) but his power just hasn’t developed.  Okay defender across the infield.

    • Colvin is a great player. He just had a down year. I can’t believe the Rockies got both DJ and him. As a Cub fan I am shocked by everything today. I only hated him when he played for Clemson LOL

  25. progmatinee 4 years ago

    Something has to give with all of the OFs, especially LH, that the Rockies are piling up.

  26. GearsofTed 4 years ago

    Dan O’ Dowd, trading for real players????? Players that are named NOW????? NOOO, that has to be some kind of mistake

    • BlueCatuli 4 years ago

      You can’t actually be upset about the PTBNL in the Jimenez trade.

      • GearsofTed 4 years ago

        Everybody knew who he was. The reason why he was a PTBNL was because he couldn’t be traded until August 15th. We are definitely not getting anyone remotely similar in the Wigginton and Street deals, especially when we could have gotten someone like Edinson Volquez 

      • GearsofTed 4 years ago

        Everybody knew who he was. The reason why he was a PTBNL was because he couldn’t be traded until August 15th. We are definitely not getting anyone remotely similar in the Wigginton and Street deals, especially when we could have gotten someone like Edinson Volquez 

    • BlueCatuli 4 years ago

      You can’t actually be upset about the PTBNL in the Jimenez trade.

  27. GearsofTed 4 years ago

    Dan O’ Dowd, trading for real players????? Players that are named NOW????? NOOO, that has to be some kind of mistake

  28. Maybe Colvin/Smith/EY head over to the Braves for Prado. Wouldn’t be surprised to see Colvin sent off in a package. Braves want a CF and well Colvin ….was…supposed to be one?

    • BDLugz 4 years ago

      He’s actually not terrible in center… he can at least cover there, I wouldn’t want him as my everyday CF though.

    • inkstainedscribe 4 years ago

      Whether the Braves and Rox make a deal involving Prado, you have to think Spilborghs will be non-tendered. As a 4th OF, he’s pretty solid and a great clubhouse guy. I’d be happy signing him and dumping Diaz.

    • inkstainedscribe 4 years ago

      Whether the Braves and Rox make a deal involving Prado, you have to think Spilborghs will be non-tendered. As a 4th OF, he’s pretty solid and a great clubhouse guy. I’d be happy signing him and dumping Diaz.

  29. How is stewarts defense at 2nd? Do you think the Cubs can get chase from SD still?

    • progmatinee 4 years ago

      You want him at 3rd. He is an underrated fielder, much better than the stats show. For whatever reason though he is better going to the right than his left. Maybe he always relied on Tulo to field that side. IDK. But he protects the baseline as well as anyone I’ve seen.

      If you judge by talent I think the Cubs won…but as others have implied, the Rockies and their fans just want to move on.

    • progmatinee 4 years ago

      You want him at 3rd. He is an underrated fielder, much better than the stats show. For whatever reason though he is better going to the right than his left. Maybe he always relied on Tulo to field that side. IDK. But he protects the baseline as well as anyone I’ve seen.

      If you judge by talent I think the Cubs won…but as others have implied, the Rockies and their fans just want to move on.

    • SwingtimeInTheRockies 4 years ago

       Not very good and no.

    • SwingtimeInTheRockies 4 years ago

       Not very good and no.

  30. Chris Small 4 years ago

    I’d much rather have seen the Cubs give LeMahieu a little more time to develop, he was only 23 and showed some promise.  I’m really not sold on Stewart, seems a lot like Colven, potential but not able to reach it.

    • aaron b 4 years ago

      LeMathieu had terrible On base% and no power. What exactly do we hope he develops into exactly?

      Best case I can see is a ramon Martinez or Nefi Perez bat without the good gloves that accompanied those guys.

  31. No more Camp Colvin : (

  32. WrigleyTerror37 4 years ago

    One thing for all of those people dissing Colvin. YES he lost his swing, but you could be expect that to happen. I mean id bet anyone on here if they had a bat in their chest they would loose there swing to…. GOOD LUCK COLVIN!!! Hope you and DJ get a better shot in Colorado!!!

    • BlueCatuli 4 years ago

      That had nothing to do with it. It had everything to do with his inability to adjust to big league pitchers adjusting to him. His swing has a hole in it the size of the moon.

      • WrigleyTerror37 4 years ago

        Colvin never recovered from his injury. just because he was off the DL
        doesn’t mean every time hes up to the plate that hes scared or thinking
        about that bat that got in his chest.

        • BlueCatuli 4 years ago

          Give me a break. You cannot be serious. He was sucking for three weeks prior to that injury because teams figured him out.

        • BlueCatuli 4 years ago

          Give me a break. You cannot be serious. He was sucking for three weeks prior to that injury because teams figured him out.

        • aaron b 4 years ago

          Colvin had a 267 on base in AAA this year. He will never be a factor at the plate so long as pitchers never have to throw him strikes.

          He made Jose Hernandez look like a disciplined and cerebral hitter.

      • bleedrockiepurple 4 years ago

        If he’s got a hole in his swing the size of the moon then the guy your getting in return, Stewart, his is the size of the galaxy.

        • WrigleyTerror37 4 years ago

          funny! and you know colvin is still young and what a year and a half under his belt, he has room to grow.

    • BlueCatuli 4 years ago

      That had nothing to do with it. It had everything to do with his inability to adjust to big league pitchers adjusting to him. His swing has a hole in it the size of the moon.

    • ubercubsfan 4 years ago

      You do know in the offensive PLC league where hitting is like playing on the moon he was struggling really bad.  I didn’t even want to see him come back up to the big league because he wasn’t showing even in AAA that he can handle the bat anymore.

      • WrigleyTerror37 4 years ago

        i agree he shouldnt have came back up last year. but hey like i said, take a bat to the chest and see how fast you start hitting again.

        • colvin’s fall of the face of the earth was going to happen regardless of whether or not he got hit by a bat. you can’t succeed in the majors if you have zero plate discipline and little contact skills

        • colvin’s fall of the face of the earth was going to happen regardless of whether or not he got hit by a bat. you can’t succeed in the majors if you have zero plate discipline and little contact skills

      • WrigleyTerror37 4 years ago

        i agree he shouldnt have came back up last year. but hey like i said, take a bat to the chest and see how fast you start hitting again.

    • Wrek305 4 years ago

      He lost his swing because Quade hated to play him over Soriano for some reason, if he was to play 150+ games he could have hit over 30 hrs in his rookie year with very limited playing time he hit 20 hr and Sweet Lou hated him too, but all the blame can be put on Hendry they had no choice but to play money over talent.

  33. This looks like a terrible trade for the cubs…

    • I also think its a bad trade just look at the last trade they did with colorado baker sucks he has done nothing for the cubs…

      • ive always liked baker, can play all infield positions and crushes left handed pitching. cant ask much more from a bench player.

        • Adam Duncan 4 years ago

          Agreed. Baker has been better than I thought.

        • Adam Duncan 4 years ago

          Agreed. Baker has been better than I thought.

        • jayrig5 4 years ago

          He was a negative WAR player for the Cubs last year.  He’s over 30, and is slated to make $2+ million next season.

          And the Cubs traded Al Alburqurque (sp?) for him, and he’s developed into a quality reliever.  

          I like this trade a lot more than I liked that one.

  34. jb226 4 years ago

    I’ve always thought Stewart made decent sense for the Cubs, at least as a stop-gap, so I’m happy to give him a chance.  Sad to see DJ go, even sadder to see that the Cubs are basically just handing second base to Barney next year.

    • jayrig5 4 years ago

      I don’t love Barney, but giving him another year at 2nd wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world. My guess would be that the new front office didn’t like Lemahieu that much more than they liked Barney, and since DJ probably had higher trade value, that’s who they moved of the two.  You don’t need both of them.  

      Maybe they flip Stewart, too.  Who knows.  

      • Wrek305 4 years ago

        Barney was their best defender last yr, which i say again he needs to be moved over to SS and Castro plays 2nd. Your best defensive player should alway be SS then C then CF the Cubs have a aging CFer and a horrible C they think is a god.

        • jayrig5 4 years ago

          That’s false, though.  When he was Castro’s age, he was playing at Oregon State; if Castro was playing shortstop for OSU, I’m sure his defense would be graded fine.  But he’s playing in the majors.  Defense at that level takes experience, and the reward for developing a plus offensive shortstop who is even average defensively (and there’s still a chance Castro could be above average) is so, so much greater. 

        • jayrig5 4 years ago

          Disagree with this assessment.  First of all, they have Brett Jackson, and Byrd has one year left on his deal, so CF isn’t a hole as of yet.  If Jackson flounders, maybe it will be, but there aren’t too many people who think that’s a possibility.  Second, you have to give Castro a chance to develop defensively; he’s so precocious offensively that it’s easy to forget he’s not a complete product yet.  If you can get average to above average defense out of him, with his bat at short, that’s such a huge advantage, because it’s easier to find bats that can play above average defense at second.  

          Also, even with a down year last year for Soto, he was still one of the top 12 catchers in baseball.  There isn’t a whole lot of talent around the majors better than him at the position, and he’s relatively inexpensive.  And he’s also one of the few Cubs that fits into Theo/Jed’s offensive philosophy.  

          • Wrek305 4 years ago

            Every catcher and backup catcher is better then Soto.

          • jayrig5 4 years ago

            Lou Piniella?  Is that you?  Are you still writing Koyie Hill’s name in a lineup card every day, just for old-time’s sake?

            Come on.  On Fangraphs, which I used only because it was way easier to sort a list, Soto was a 2.1 WAR player last year.  And that was in an admittedly down year.  Know where that ranked him?  15th in the majors.  

            In 2010, in a good year for him, he was 7th in the majors in WAR, with 3.1.

            So let’s stop being ridiculous.  The Cubs have above average, young, team/cost controlled plus players at catcher, shortstop, and assuming Jackson pans out, CF.  (Soto will be 29 next year, so not necessarily young, but still in his prime.)  

          • Wrek305 4 years ago

            Sotgo never had a prime. If he’s lucky he will hit .220 13hrs drive 50 and score 45 run. And .220 is pushing it for him, OBP will be like .260, he Ks too much as well. They might as well use Michael Brenly right bow.

      • Wrek305 4 years ago

        Barney was their best defender last yr, which i say again he needs to be moved over to SS and Castro plays 2nd. Your best defensive player should alway be SS then C then CF the Cubs have a aging CFer and a horrible C they think is a god.

      • jb226 4 years ago

        I don’t MIND Barney at second base, but I am not as enamored with him as so many people are. He has basically no offensive value; the average wasn’t bad, but he really doesn’t walk and doesn’t hit for any kind of power, so he needs to maintain that kind of average to not be a drain offensively. Defensively I just don’t agree with FanGraphs that he is that good; B-Ref has what I consider a much more realistic evaluation of his defense. He won’t hurt you, but he’s not a stud.

        To me, unless something changes he is a borderline starter at best. I don’t mind borderline guys starting (particularly for a team not likely to be contending) but I’m not a fan of essentially just giving them the job.

        I’m not torn up about the trade in general though. I would have liked to see DJ get more of a shot, but I’m not crying that he’s gone and I think Stewart is a nice gamble for the Cubs.

  35. As an outsider I can officially say: whatever. I’ve long since given up on both the man players.

  36. stewie75 4 years ago

    if this is what theo and jed think is best, i gotta stick with em. they’re picking up a few top 10 picks who i’m sure they had scouted heavily previously, maybe they see something they can fix? switching scratchoffs i guess.

  37. imachainsaw 4 years ago

    you’re failing, theo/jed.

    • disgustedcubfan 4 years ago

      What do you expect in return for Colvin and LeMahieu, Tulo?
      You get what you pay for.

      • imachainsaw 4 years ago

        this whole trade in general had no business happening. there was no need to trade for stewart.

        • BDLugz 4 years ago

          Good call – what a waste since the Cubs have so many 3B waiting to show what they’re made of…. oh wait.  Or maybe you were banking on that deadly platoon of Baker/Dewitt?  Yeah, this trade needed to happen.

          • imachainsaw 4 years ago

            .464 OPS. not OBP, not even SLG. OPS. think about that.

    • disgustedcubfan 4 years ago

      What do you expect in return for Colvin and LeMahieu, Tulo?
      You get what you pay for.

  38. Never been impressed with Ian Sewart’s bat, especially against lefties.  Very good defender though.

  39. Never been impressed with Ian Sewart’s bat, especially against lefties.  Very good defender though.

  40. imachainsaw 4 years ago

    Tyler Colvin will bounce back from the dreaded sophomore slump, and us cubs are gonna be stuck with… *sigh* ian stewart. jeez.

    • Would’ve been nice if Colvin got more regular playing time last year; try to play his way out of the slump. I feel like maybe the front office gave up on him after a terrible ’11.

      • ubercubsfan 4 years ago

        He couldn’t play his way out of the slump playing full time in an offensive PCL league.

        • He was platooning before that, though. Probably thought his ’10 warranted him more time, and by June, July, whenever he was down, he was probably mentally fried.

    • BDLugz 4 years ago

      You do realize that Ian Stewart was a top 50 prospect 4 years in a row in the minors rising as high as #3?  He’s got all the talent in the world, much more than *sigh* Tyler Colvin.

      • imachainsaw 4 years ago

        well then hopefully I’m wrong in my assessment of this trade. I think it was stupid to give away both LeMahieu and Colvin, where Colvin for Stewart straight up woulda been okay. However Stewart has put up back to back awful seasons, whereas Colvin has only put up one. I’m more apt to give Colvin the benefit of the doubt than Stewart who has failed multiple times already.

  41. imachainsaw 4 years ago

    Tyler Colvin will bounce back from the dreaded sophomore slump, and us cubs are gonna be stuck with… *sigh* ian stewart. jeez.

  42. The Cubs forgot that DJ is a valuable prospect.  He still batter .318 throughout the minors and was a second round pick.  Ian Stewert is washed up at the age of 26

    • Cosmo3 4 years ago

      Agreed. Most people are focusing on Colvin in this trade, but DJ is the real piece of value the Cubs are losing. I think there’s a much better chance that DJ develops into a solid MLB player than there is of Stewart coming close to his potential. This is a bad bet for the Cubs.

      • Cubs27 4 years ago

        DJ doesn’t fit in with our lineup very well, unless he plays 2nd.  We have our good average guys with limited power in Castro and Barney. We don’t need our 3rd baseman to not have much power either. At least Stewart will give us some power, but I’m still gonna miss Colvin.

        • Guest 4 years ago

          Castro is still growing, I think he will be a 15-20 HR guy in the future.

          • Cubs27 4 years ago

            Yea I agree with you, I could see him averaging 20+ for a few years, but I don’t see LeMahieu fitting with us very well for where we’re going.

  43. The Cubs forgot that DJ is a valuable prospect.  He still batter .318 throughout the minors and was a second round pick.  Ian Stewert is washed up at the age of 26

  44. K Morrissy 4 years ago

    Someone post a look at the 2012 Cubs lineup please!

    • BDLugz 4 years ago

      Currently something like:

      1B – LaHair
      2B – Barney
      3B – Stewart
      SS – Castro
      C – Soto
      LF – Soriano
      CF – Byrd
      RF – DeJesus

      Brett Jackson will come up at some point next year and take over center, either moving Byrd to 4th OF or if Soriano is injured, pushing Byrd to LF.

  45. K Morrissy 4 years ago

    Someone post a look at the 2012 Cubs lineup please!

  46. bleedrockiepurple 4 years ago

    It amuses me that Rox fans are ready to see Stewart go and most Cubs fans think he could be somewhat valuable. While on the flip side all the Cubs fans are ready to see Colvin go and most Rox fans see him with some upside and potential.

    That clearly shows that both do have potential regardless of what either fanbase says and a change of scenery is EXACTLY what both these guys need. 

    Wish Stew nothing but the best, if there was any player I want to see meet their full potential it’s this guy.

    • progmatinee 4 years ago

      Why do you think that last sentence? Its not like Ian Stewart is a hard worker who had bad breaks. IMO he’s squandered a lot of potential, so I have a hard time pulling for him.

      • bleedrockiepurple 4 years ago

        I understand he could really use a kick in the behind to get working hard towards earning what he could potentially be. Just always been a Rockie I’ve enjoyed watching, followed him closely for a long time. 

        I didn’t realize you could only pull for a guy who has a fantastic work ethic. Guess that’s the only reason the city of Denver loves Tebow. 

        • Neil Guzman 4 years ago

          I’m kind of with prog, bleed…Stewart always seemed uninterested to be at the ballpark for whatever reason…not sure if he was lazy or what…I love the kid (even have his jersey) but I think that ship has sailed…

          • bleedrockiepurple 4 years ago

            I’m not arguing whether the guy has a good work ethic or not. I was just saying i wish him the best because i have followed him closely for so long. 

          • progmatinee 4 years ago

            I’m not arguing who you should be rooting for. Just surprised you would say, “if there was any player I want to see meet their full potential it’s this guy”. I don’t wish bad on him, but I don’t rank him above some one who actually is willing to put the work in and enjoys what he’s doing. I look at Fowler for example and pull for him to reach his potential.

          • Neil Guzman 4 years ago

            Stewart was puzzling for sure…ton of potential but, IMO, lacked the drive…hard to say because I don’t know the situation, but it appears that something was missing…I’m intrigued by the players the Rockies got in return, but I am expecting absolutely nothing to happen with them…O’Dowd is stockpiling OFs…I can’t explain that at all…

    • progmatinee 4 years ago

      Why do you think that last sentence? Its not like Ian Stewart is a hard worker who had bad breaks. IMO he’s squandered a lot of potential, so I have a hard time pulling for him.

    • baseball52 4 years ago

      Colvin kinda come out of nowhere. After being picked first, he quickly descended into being a non-factor. Then he came up to the MLB, suddenly found power, and was relevant again.

      Stewart, however, was at least a top prospect.

  47. Cosmo3 4 years ago

    So as of right now, the Cubs line-up looks something like:

    DeJesus RF
    Castro SS
    Byrd CF
    Stewart 3B
    LaHair?? 1B
    Soriano LF
    Soto C
    Barney 2B

    Ouch.

    • K Morrissy 4 years ago

      ty.  And yes ouch.

    • Wrek305 4 years ago

      It will eventually be Soriano off the bench and hopefully the Cubs sign a catcher as well LaHair would be nice for them at 1st. Soriano has to go, take him and his 54mil and release him, I highly doubt he would bring back more then what they got for Derek Lee.

      • BlueCatuli 4 years ago

        You don’t understand the economics of baseball, do you?

        • Wrek305 4 years ago

          Whats the difference soriano is owned 54mil they need to compromise a buyout and let him go his. Not hard to do. No one wants him and they wouldn’t get anything good back.

    • aa-Ron 4 years ago

      LeHair will not be playing 1B this year. He doesn’t fit the Cubs’ short-term or long-term plans at all. Even if the we don’t get Fielder, we will still pick up someone else that has major league experience, or someone that is younger. 

    • aa-Ron 4 years ago

      DeJesus RF
      Barney 2B
      Castro SS
      Fielder 1B
      Byrd CF
      Stewart 3B
      Soriano LF
      Soto C
      Garza P

    • Charliesmithm 4 years ago

      No it goes
      Castro ss
      Barney 2B
      Dejuses RF
      Byrd CF
      Soto C
      Soriano LF
      Veters 3B
      Stewert 1B

  48. Cosmo3 4 years ago

    So as of right now, the Cubs line-up looks something like:

    DeJesus RF
    Castro SS
    Byrd CF
    Stewart 3B
    LaHair?? 1B
    Soriano LF
    Soto C
    Barney 2B

    Ouch.

  49. BobbyJohn 4 years ago

    To me, in the handful of moves that O’Dowd has made this winter I see Stewart as the guy that we might look back on in a handful of years and wonder “How did we let THAT guy go?”

  50. BobbyJohn 4 years ago

    To me, in the handful of moves that O’Dowd has made this winter I see Stewart as the guy that we might look back on in a handful of years and wonder “How did we let THAT guy go?”

  51. Charliesmithm 4 years ago

    Dume cubs Brew crew rox

  52. Charliesmithm 4 years ago

    Dume cubs Brew crew rox

  53. Wrek305 4 years ago

    Finally a good defensive 3rd baseman. Sad to see Colvin go but Quade hated him and Svuem probably would have been told to play money over talent as well, they traded DJ LeMehieu as well i thought it said someone else. That’s a big loss too. And whoever Casey Weathers is probably will never make the ML at all. The Cubs needed a good third baseman and they got him I wish they would’ve traded DeWitt though. He can bring back them a bulpen arm at the best and probably a AA ball player at best.

    • bearsbball11 4 years ago

      “The Cubs needed a good third baseman and they got him”

      Lol if you think Stewart is anything even approaching the realm of “good”

      • Wrek305 4 years ago

        He’s better defensively then anything they had last year. Offense might be as good but Ramirez is on a decline.

  54. firealyellon 4 years ago

    Who cares?

  55. jokrausdu 4 years ago

    You better hope that Stewart has a better start than hitting .068.  Yes, he was 3 for 49 at one point.

    • baseball52 4 years ago

      We do also get White Sox games here. We saw Adam Dunn. We are prepared.

  56. bearsbball11 4 years ago

    Good trade for the Rockies as is. GREAT trade for the Rockies if they take Colvin, package him with Seth Smith and get Prado for them.

    • BobbyJohn 4 years ago

      I think the addition of Colvin might incline O’Dowd to include Blackmon (finally) in a deal to get Prado. If that’s true then it will essentially be Smith, Blackmon, and Stewart for Prado and Colvin. I would be just fine with that.

  57. aaron b 4 years ago

    What good is a 318 average if it’s accompanied by a 330 on base and a 380 slg%?

  58. I wish any of these commenters would try studying math.  The Cubs will likely not pretend to contend unless they can add at least 5.2 WAR to their lineup/pitching.  That is most likely economically unfeasible.  The Tyler Colvin and DJ apologists need to get off the scrappy-white-guy bandwagon and realize that the new powers that be are plugging holes. Any mlb regular bat at third gets us through a season in which we will not win no matter what who we sign.  Someone has to play third. Welcome Ian Stewart. Finally we have a front office that is smarter than people who comment on web sites.

    • BDLugz 4 years ago

      They already added 3 WAR with the DeJesus signing.  Not hard to increase from the -1.1 WAR we saw there last year.  Plus, you can probably assume an improvement from Castro and Soto this year as well.  Not saying we’re going to be contenders for the central, but maybe for .500.

    • disgustedcubfan 4 years ago

      I agree. Theo is not claiming this guy is the next Mike Schmidt or Brooks Robinson.  He is a young guy with some upside.
      Stewart is a much better option than some journeyman, over the hill veteran who has no chance of being around in a few years.

  59. justme 4 years ago

    good deal i think more so for cubs they lost aramis but gain a guy who plays much better de and still has 25 hr potential and it saves them about 10 mill over what they would have payed aramis this year and ian is 26 meaning they are set at third for the next 5 years which allows them to move vitters while he still has high trade value…hopefully if they do which i think they will it will be for a a young starting pitcher…they need some arms…. im not as high on d.j as most and colvin is just another 250ish hitter with some pop….these guys are nice to have  but u don’t rebuild a franchise on them….and the rockies have a full house of outfielders so they now have pieces to trade also to up grade good deal for both really.

    • cubfan4life 4 years ago

      I would hardly say that the Cubs are “set” at 3rd for the next 5 years. Stewart had a horrendous year last year, has never hit even .260 in a season, and even his defense was bad last year (.929 fld % in 31 starts and 42 games). This is a make or break year for him.

      However he does have some value and upside just from being a young ML 3B who hits from the left side with some power. If he does figure things out i could see him replacing some to most of the production that is leaving with Carlos Pena.

      Giving up Colvin is no biggie. He is easily replaceable. LeMahieu seems to be the “bigger” loss of the 2. I just dont think he fit anywhere going forward. His best position is probably 2B and Barney has that covered. 3B defense is there but offensively i think he would have been below avg for 3B.

      Overall i think the Cubs win the deal because the 2 guys they brought in have a higher upside to them if they figure out some things. Colorado ends up with a nice bench piece in LeMahieu but Colvin doesnt make much sense to me. It seems like they already have a couple of him on the roster already.

  60. There are always two ways to look at every trade. One from a GM’s seat with a budget and other players in the system.  The other from a fantasy approach where you can deal from an emotional side.  On paper we traded two minor league players for 2 minor league players.  The only reason Cub fans would be upset over DJL being in the deal is because we called him up and saw him last year.  That gives us the impression he is better than he is.  Solid players that give organizational depth are needed…  For deals like this.  Colvin on the other hand blew his chance. In a business where time is short you have to continue to improve.  As I see it Colvin’s biggest flaw was that he proved he couldn’t hit off the bench and without regular playing time, and he couldn’t learn 1B.  So where on the cubs is that playing time going to come.  Not only this year without a spot but in the next few with Jackson and Szczur coming up.  Organizationaly we are light at 3B.  I would rather invest the time in Stewart and A Jackson or M Szczur than Colvin and LDJ…

  61. hgr900 4 years ago

    Not a fan of this for the Cubs at all

  62. hgr900 4 years ago

    Not a fan of this for the Cubs at all

  63. mgsports 4 years ago

    Prado 3b for Rockies and yes Vetters is future 3B for Cubs,

  64. chee1rs 4 years ago

    there’s some upside there

  65. Cubbiefan12 4 years ago

    Will someone spell Vitters correct!

  66. Cubbiefan12 4 years ago

    Will someone spell Vitters correct….please!!

  67. Cubbiefan12 4 years ago

    Josh “Fricken” Vitters!!  Hopefull we will all know it real soon!

  68. Colvin was really playing well 2 years ago before the injury that almost killed him.  Last year was more of a rehabbing year for him, I believe Colvin will begin to show his true ability again this year.

  69. Colvin batted .254 in 2010 before the injury. He had 18 doubles, 5 triples, and 20HR.. Sounds like he adjusted to Major league pitching just fine to me.

  70. ChiCubs13 4 years ago

    DJ was a second round pick in 2009.

  71. SwingtimeInTheRockies 4 years ago

    Kind of.  We’d always hope for more out of Stewart.  He was always limited by his own (lack of) effort.  Weathers, like Greg Reynolds before him was a low ceiling pick from the get-go who never really got going due to injuries. 

  72. Fifty_Five 4 years ago

    Not directing this to you in particular but to anyone, why do the Rockies need another outfielder? Cargo and Smith on the corners seems solid already and although they’re all still pretty unproven, they have multiple CF options in Fowler, Blackmon, EY jr, and Wheeler on the way. It just never really made sense to me that they were interested in Willingham and Cuddyer before and now they acquire another young outfield option

  73. Fifty_Five 4 years ago

    Not directing this to you in particular but to anyone, why do the Rockies need another outfielder? Cargo and Smith on the corners seems solid already and although they’re all still pretty unproven, they have multiple CF options in Fowler, Blackmon, EY jr, and Wheeler on the way. It just never really made sense to me that they were interested in Willingham and Cuddyer before and now they acquire another young outfield option

  74. TDKnies 4 years ago

    Have you seen a lot of Rockies players’ splits?

  75. John Bowman 4 years ago

    Wrigley’s multi-year batting park factor is 101. Coors’ is 117. That’s almost exactly the same and you know exactly what you’re talking about. Or not.

  76. SwingtimeInTheRockies 4 years ago

     Or Cubs players or Red Sox players?  I know, home/road splits only matter in Colorado.

  77. Colvin could be viewed as a 1B option, or this could be a precursor move to trading away Smith. Blackmon most likely starts at AAA, EY Jr ends up in a competition for playing time at 2B with LeMahieu, Nelson, and Herrera, while Nelson, Pacheco and Herrera fight for 3B.

    So I get why they did the trade, but it would have been better if Colvin were a righty, which is what they really need.

  78. Colvin could be viewed as a 1B option, or this could be a precursor move to trading away Smith. Blackmon most likely starts at AAA, EY Jr ends up in a competition for playing time at 2B with LeMahieu, Nelson, and Herrera, while Nelson, Pacheco and Herrera fight for 3B.

    So I get why they did the trade, but it would have been better if Colvin were a righty, which is what they really need.

  79. Ryan Painter 4 years ago

    i see it more as Colvin being low risk potential high reward if he finds his stroke. (which he started to towards the end of the season) the rockies don’t need him but could use him if he is good. they were ready to move on from stewart. but i love stewart coming to wrigley. sometimes a change of scenery is all a player needs. (with new coaches :P) lets hope the best for both sides.

  80. Including or just post humidor?

  81. Not completely bare. There’s still Starlin, Garza and Marshall.

  82. Not completely bare. There’s still Starlin, Garza and Marshall.

  83. Wrek305 4 years ago

    They will average 90 losses for the next 3-5 yrs. And even though it makes no sense the Astros move to the AL when it makes way more sense for KC to move to the AL West and the Brewers to go back to the AL Central, the Cubs will be the bottom dwellers once more.

  84. And that makes Coors less of a hitter’s paradise how?  Just look at CarGo.  MVP caliber in Coors, average away from it.  Seth Smith: solid player in Coors, below average away.

    Coors doesn’t necessarily vastly inflate every guy’s numbers.  Plenty of guys have pretty normal home/road splits while playing for the Rockies (look at Tulo).  But you can’t ignore the fact that it’s made careers in the past.

  85. Guest 4 years ago

    I love how you can just predict what will happen for the next 3-5 years.

  86. bearsbball11 4 years ago

    The Braves have already expressed interest in Seth Smith.

  87. Wrek305 4 years ago

    Just watch, they need those horrible contract gone first. 3-5 yrs. They clearly can’t move them and even if they didn’t they would get anything good back.

  88. Jeff Jones 4 years ago

    Might not take 3-5 years after next year they will have only 1 bad contract in Soriano. They will have $40 million off the books next year and there is overall a better free agent class next year. When Theo was at his best in the early days with the BoSox was he acquired below the radar players and made a winning team.

  89. BDLugz 4 years ago

    You realize that after this year the only long term contract is Soriano, and after 2015 we have no players under contract?  This is not a guaranteed 90 loss team next year, nor is it a 3-5 year rebuilding process to be competitive.

  90. Wrek305 4 years ago

    They still have zambrano that they need to trade and get maybe a minor league player for him and he has 2 yrs left. . It will be 3-5 yrs at least. They can’t trade soriano or zambrano, each of them have 3 yrs left. Both have full no. Trade clauses as well

  91. Guest 4 years ago

    Zambrano has this coming season, with a team option that wont ever be given in 2013. So after 2012 they have him coming off the books along with dempster and byrd.

  92. Guest 4 years ago

    And would you quit with the 3-5 years crap. A WHOLE lot can change from 1 season to the next. Not to mention the NL central is about to become quite a bit weaker!

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