Rangers Still Eyeing Andrew Bailey

With the clock ticking on their 30-day negotiating window with Yu Darvish, the Rangers aren't done searching for pitching upgrades. Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports writes that Texas still has interest in Athletics closer Andrew Bailey.

If the Rangers were to acquire Bailey, they would almost certainly trade a pitcher – perhaps Matt Harrison – for a first baseman or center fielder, according to Rosenthal.

The Rangers' interest in Bailey is nothing new, though during the Winter Meetings they were said to be balking at Billy Beane's asking price for the right-hander. The Red Sox have been the team linked to Bailey most often in recent weeks, even after their acquisition of Mark Melancon.

Assuming the Rangers can finalize a deal with Darvish within the next month, Neftali Feliz's move to the rotation means the club would have an excess of starting pitching. As Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports wrote yesterday, Texas could consider starting the season with a six-man rotation. A trade is also a possibility. But if the Rangers decided to move Alexi Ogando to a bullpen which already includes Joe Nathan and Mike Adams, you'd think the team would be less inclined to part with premium prospects for Bailey.


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  1. If the inferior Adams gets Wieland and Erlin, Bailey gets….?

    • grownice 4 years ago

       Adams , Wieland and Erlin?

    • rangersfan32 4 years ago

      Inferior? Are you serious? Check the stats. The two are almost perfectly identical throughout their careers. Including the fact that Adams’ stats were all better than Bailey last year. But hey, at least Bailey is younger!

      • not_brooks 4 years ago

        But Bailey has all of those $ave$!!!

        • rangersfan32 4 years ago

          Yeah, that alone doesn’t make Adams inferior to Bailey though.

          • Bailey >>>>> Any Petco pitcher. Bailey is twice the pitcher Adams is and has age, performance in a more difficult league/division and the numbers to back it up.

            According to baseball-reference, Bailey’s most similar pitchers are John Axford and Neftali Feliz, so stop right there if you are going to try and run with some BS “Bailey is overrated” argument. He’s the same as Feliz.

          • rangersfan32 4 years ago

            Hahaha Adams still produced better numbers than Bailey after he moved to Arlington. Using Petco is a weak argument.

          • Leonard Washington 4 years ago

            Yeah especially since Bailey pitches for Oakland. 

          • rangersfan32 4 years ago

            Exactly my point. It’s not like it’s a difficult life pitching in Oakland. Especially when you get to face the Angels and Mariners offenses a ton.

          • Steven Resnick 4 years ago

            Then your point makes equally no sense since coming to the Rangers it meant facing the A’s, Mariners and Angels lineup. 

          • Steven Resnick 4 years ago

            One thing Adams wasn’t though, closer! Obviously do some research before making ignorant comments.

            It’s much easier to come into the eighth inning than it is in the ninth or later attempting to secure a victory. It’s why a majority of the time when the setup man gets pressed into closing duties, 99.9 percent of the time they fail to make the necessary adjustments or have the demeanor to do it. 

          • Leonard Washington 4 years ago

            Feliz and Baileys similarities end after saves numbers. Bailey is oft injured and fully healthy no where near as good as Feliz.

          • Steven Resnick 4 years ago

            First of all Bailey has only one season that had injury struggles yet still recorded 20 plus saves and a much better ERA than Feliz. 

            In fact you look at all the numbers and Bailey is the far superior pitcher. Has better control, better career era, and doesn’t blown saves. 

            If the Rangers had acquired Bailey like they were looking for around the trade deadline in 2011, the Rangers would be World Series champions. What’s better at 2.07 ERA or a 2.55 era? 

            What’s better a pitcher who has never blown a save past the all-star break or the one that has? Feliz going to the rotation now that is going to be filled with hilarious results! Last year alone as closer Feliz struckout 54 while walking 30. Bailey struck out 41 while walking 12. 

            Nice try though, Feliz isn’t anywhere as good a Bailey. 

          • Steven Resnick 4 years ago

            Um yes it does, being a setup man compared to being a closer are two different roles. 

        • Mike Adams: 1.30 ERA in 117 PETCO innings. Bailey would have an ERA of about 0.20 if he threw in Petco. That park is a joke and so are most pitching numbers there, its like how the Rockies were in the 90s with offense, totally blown out and fake numbers. My grandmother would have an ERA under 3 at Petco. 

          • rangersfan32 4 years ago

            Yeah, the A’s ballpark is a pitching nightmare.

          • RepOak 4 years ago

            You mean a hitting nightmare, not pitching

          • rangersfan32 4 years ago

            It was sarcasm.

          • it has played neutral the last couple of seasons but by all means dont bother to check any sources for facts and just continue to spout off lies and bs as truth.

          • rangersfan32 4 years ago

            Lies? How are they lies? Sarcastically saying it’s a pitching nightmare is no more a lie than saying Adams is inferior because he used to pitch in Petco. Guess what, he was still better than Bailey after moving to Arlington and the AL.

          • notsureifsrs 4 years ago

            let’s use stats that adjust for park effects then, eh pete?

            SIERA
            adams 2.47
            bailey 2.91

            FIP-
            adams 60
            bailey 67

            ERA-
            adams 38
            bailey 50

            – after moving to arlington last year adams pitched to a 2.54 SIERA, 75 FIP-, and 49 ERA- (still better than bailey)

            – though adams has pitched in 25 more games over the last three years, he has one less meltdown and almost 20 more shutdowns

            – the average leverage index is similar for both and bailey has done much worse in higher-leverage situations, so you can’t even start with that 9th inning crap

          • oh please, go away with your average leverage index crap, that stuff is inconclusive. 

            bailey was hurt last year, use the last 3 years of data and get back to me. 

            Bailey = Axford or Feliz = Extremely good at relieving. Adams is a product of SD, if you are going to use his 14 inning sample size at Arlington last year, don’t even bother talking to me. You are wrong.

          • rangersfan32 4 years ago

            I’d be angry too if my team sucked every year.

          • notsureifsrs 4 years ago

            that is the last 3 seasons of data you homer. and those stats are park-adjusted

            you have no leg to stand on here whatsoever. these are metrics you endorse in every other scenario. you’re ignoring them here because you’re biased

          • Yu mad?

      • Madman2TX 4 years ago

        Exactly. And this isn’t about trading Adams away, but adding Bailey to the pen as a 7th inning/backup closer. Maybe Uehara is trade bait, but not Adams.

  2. LeoAcevedo 4 years ago

    I think the best spot for bailey right now is boston . I think they should be more agressive , Im pretty dissappointed my mets didnt try to get Lowrie for Parnell , BOS went with Melacon instead

  3. rangersfan32 4 years ago

    Seriously. Instead of trading top prospects for Bailey, just put Feldman and Ogando in the bullpen. They killed it in the playoffs last year, so why not stick with the guys we have. We need to get a lefty reliever, not a overpriced closer.

    • cubs223425 4 years ago

      Because they need Ogando in the rotation?

      • rangersfan32 4 years ago

        No they don’t. Darvish, Lewis, Holland, Harrison and Feliz. I like Ogando, but if Texas wants to give Feliz a shot this year, and they sign Darvish, Ogando is the odd man out.

    • Madman2TX 4 years ago

      Of course, the Rangers could do that, but you can tell this is partly about stacking the deck for them to win the World Series next season…which is why I think the Rangers are going to make another move for a first baseman.

    • I don’t know how long Adams will be here, but Nathan will be in in Arlington for 2 years. Ogando could be moved to the bullpen with the upside of making him the closer for years to come.

  4. The A’s would be stupid to trade within their division. They should just trade him to the Red Sox.

    • The Rangers would also be stupid to trade a guy like Harrison within the division. 

    • why? the angels just made them irrelevant for the next 2-3 years and the rangers will be outstanding for that length of time too. Weakening his division rivals farm systems in time for 2015 should be the #1 priority on Beane’s list.

  5. baschkar 4 years ago

    I think our bullpen is deep enough. If Uehara finds a way to minimize the HRs, which I think he will, then our bullpen is stacked. No need to give up multiple top prospects.

    • rangersfan32 4 years ago

      All we need now is a lefty reliever. Oliver and Gonzalez are the obvious choices. But JD needs to lock one up before they both bolt.

      • baschkar 4 years ago

        After that WS Gm. 6 performance by Oliver against 2 lefties and a pitcher, I’d rather have Gonzales back.

        • rangersfan32 4 years ago

          I like Gonzalez too. He’d also be a better candidate for a 2-3 years deal.

          • abbearden 4 years ago

            I like Gonzalez too but he has Boras as an agent so talks will probably drag out because Boras will be looking for Gonzalez to make closer to atleast 7 Mil/year. Oliver will probably be seeking 2.5-3.5 Mil for his last go around.

        • Oliver gave up two bloopers that happened to drop in…

  6. All I know is that the west is getting some good pitching with the Angles staff, King Felix and Pineda up north the pitching the A’s still have and Texas hopefully they get Darvish really good.

  7. baschkar 4 years ago

    How about Feldman/Moreland/Harrison/Scheppers for Sean Marshall and Matt Garza?

  8. optionn 4 years ago

    They should try to upgrade LF rather than getting too many bullpen pieces.  That guy in LF sucks and is essentially a sure out/ slap single type of guy.

    • oz10 4 years ago

      I assume you only watched in the post season when Hamilton was in center but Hamilton is our left fielder and a damn good one. Center is where we could use the upgrade offensively but Gentry was great defensively. If that is the one spot that we are short offensively but have a guy that can cover a lot of ground, I am fine with that. We also have Beltre (not the 3rd baseman), Martin, and Borbon that can still play in center. There are not a lot of good options in center right now so we can still make it with what we have. Murphy who played a lot in the post season is perfect as a fourth outfielder. And Murphy looks like Cameron from Ferris Bueller’s day off so for that reason and that reason alone we can’t get rid of him.

      • rangersfan32 4 years ago

        I’d look for Leonys Martin to win the CF spot over Gentry quite easily this year. He has the potential to be a much better hitting version of Gentry.

        • oz10 4 years ago

          At some point this year I hope that does happen. I have seen him a couple of times down in round rock and he has looked lost at the plate. Fast as all get out but his bat may need at least half a year to catch up to his other tools. Granted this is from watching him twice and not being a scout, just my sniff test so to say.

    • rangersfan32 4 years ago

      2012 OF will feature Hamilton (LF), Leonys Martin (CF), Cruz (RF), and Murphy (4th OF). We’re set there.

  9. Murphy and Hamilton play LF. there both great hitters kid

  10. bailey does not make sense for the rangers since their bullpen is so deep.  Feliz shiould stay as a closer because he will fail as a starter with his lost of comand at times.  Rangers should instead just get a one year filler in the #5 spot. 

    • rangersfan32 4 years ago

      No need for a filler. The 5 sport will go to either Feliz or Ogando with Feldman being a backup plan. Texas is deep at starting pitching.

  11. Red_Line_9 4 years ago

    Matt Harrison in a deal for Joaquim Soria

    • rangersfan32 4 years ago

      This has already been said multiple times, we don’t need more closers. If any additions are made to the bullpen, it’ll be for a lefty reliever.

      • Red_Line_9 4 years ago

        I was just responding to the potential interest in Andrew Bailey.  I’m just thinking the Royals would want less prospect talent and more of MLB pitching talent.

        • oz10 4 years ago

          The Royals want the entire farm when the Rangers call. Soria also wants to stay there and the Royals want to keep him (if I remember correct, I could be wrong about that)

          • Red_Line_9 4 years ago

            Soria just appears to be a commodity that could be replaced and actually of value to another team.

          • Red_Line_9 4 years ago

            I also hear that the Royals are looking for MLB starting pitching. 

        • rangersfan32 4 years ago

          Yeah but it makes no sense to trade away a young, cost controlled #3 starter, who is still getting even better, for a luxury.

  12. lairdd 4 years ago

    baiey for mike olt. rangers already have beltre at third, so if they want a proven 1b in moreland or and unproven mike olt playing a dif position and unproven in the mlb. oakland needs to addres their 3b problem they have no clear cut prospects in that area for the next few years

    • oz10 4 years ago

      if it is one for one like that I am all for it. The problem is that it will take 2-3 prospects for bailey.

    • rangersfan32 4 years ago

      Bailey for Olt and Scheppers maybe? Or Olt, Scheppers plus a low pitching prospect. I doubt Texas goes for yet another eighty closer in our bullpen when we already have 3-4 of those on our staff. But if they did a trade, I’d rather it be Olt, Scheppers and low pitching prospect for Sean Marshall.

  13. acrux 4 years ago

    Whoever they get in the pen, Washington will sniff out the cold hand and sit on the hot one when the October decks are stacked.

  14. I am not a fan of trading Harrison for a bullpen guy. Harrison is a great young middle of the rotation option who has not hit his upside ceiling yet. DO NOT PULL THE TRIGGER ON THIS ONE.

    In addition to that, you do not trade young starting pitching, you develop it.

  15. lairdd 4 years ago

    no way will rangers bite on three prospects. yeah i was thinking two for bailey but olt does look to be a stud and fits in oaklands plans. billy is probably asking for 2 of their top 10 prospects for bailey which seems fair. he has been more than consistant and he has the ability to have 30-40 saves oer year on a strong offensive team.

  16. Madman2TX 4 years ago

    Having all those starters and closers is what will get the Rangers through slumps and injuries next season and hopefully seal the deal on the next World Series. I kind of doubt they’ll actually get Bailey…but maybe. I’m kind of wondering more how desperate the Rangers are to replace Moreland’s average bat in the lineup…if they can’t get Fielder, would they consider trading for Carlos Lee and money from the Astros? Just as a rental of course til his contract ends, but it would be a cheaper option than Fielder.

    • There’s got to be a better option than Carlos Lee out there. We already had that experience once.

    • rangersfan32 4 years ago

      I don’t understand the want for Fielder. Sure he’s a great hitter, but the lineup isn’t the problem. Moreland is a very good bat to have in the 9 hole and plays above average defense. No need to use any funds reserved for extension on a luxury.

      • oz10 4 years ago

        True but it is fun to dream. Everybody hates the Yankees until you have the opportunity to be just like them with potential all stars at every position!

  17. slider32 4 years ago

    Bailey is a stud, the Sox or the Rangers are eventually going to over pay for him. His contract is good and he could put them over the top.

    • rangersfan32 4 years ago

      Rangers have 3 guys in their pen that posts the same stats as Bailey. They won’t overpay.

      • Steven Resnick 4 years ago

        Yet, only one of them is a closer and they are moving him to the rotation. So, technically the Rangers have no one! Again you’re not making a very good point by putting 8th inning guys in a 9th inning role. 

    • OaklandFan22 4 years ago

      bailey is a stud

  18. Jon Melton 4 years ago

    Bailey is good but not a real need for Rangers more of a luxury

  19. baschkar 4 years ago

    But is it necessary to trade away top prospects for a luxury? Texas has 5 guys (koji, adams, nathan, feliz, ogando) on the roster who COULD close. Do we really need a 6th?

  20. rangersfan32 4 years ago

    Agreed. A bullpen of Feldman, Tateyama, Uehara, Lowe, Ogando, Adams and Nathan is what the bullpen should look like now. Texas shouldn’t waste the last bullpen spot on another closer, especially when we need a lefty in that pen.

  21. oz10 4 years ago

    I don’t like giving up on Harrison either. He has tons of talent and is still cheap. If he takes another step forward this year he could easily be considered a #2.

  22. baschkar 4 years ago

    That’s true. Harrison showed something last year that you don’t want to give up on. But to make the deal realistic and beneficial for both teams, in my mind he had to be included. I would rather give up Harrison and get Garza than give up top prospects that have potential to be better than both.

  23. abbearden 4 years ago

    I agree. I’m not sure why Harrison’s name is still popping up in all of this trade rumors. It would seem backwards thinking on the Rangers part to give up a young LH pitcher that will only improve. A lefty that can throw 95-97 mph fastball with good developing offspeed pitches and is under team control until 2015..I dont know thats the type of talent you dont give up unless somebody offers you one heck of a trade. Plus our staff will be a bit too RH dominant especially if lose Harrison. 

  24. rangersfan32 4 years ago

    I wouldn’t go as far as a #2 yet. He could be a great #3 though next year. If he could improve his control more and miss a few more bats, he could be a solid 2. And that alone is not enough to make me want to trade him for another guy who is a 3/borderline 2. Especially when we don’t even need a starter once we sign Darvish. Maybe Texas could swing a deal for Marshall if they don’t think Gonzalez would fit as the teams lefty reliever.

  25. rangersfan32 4 years ago

    He keeps coming up because people are blinded be his numbers from 2-3 years ago as opposed to just looking at his performance in this most recent season. His velocity is up, his command is better, he’s stronger mentally, and his offspeed pitches are coming along nicely. His curveball is insane. There’s a reason he improved so much last season. It wasn’t a fluke.

  26. baschkar 4 years ago

    RH dominant didn’t stop the Cardinals. Also Harrison’s stock is as high as its ever been. Why not at least think about it? Plus we don’t know is Harrison if gonna be able to put together another year like 2011, some players have breakthrough years and temporary success. Garza pitched most of his career in the AL East at a decent level, and is a proven winner in the playoffs, so I think he’s more valuable than Harrison.

  27. oz10 4 years ago

    Cliff Lee and the convo that he had with Harrison after last year worked. Lee said that he had some of the best stuff on the staff and talked to him about making sure he always remembered what it was like to be left off the post season roster. Harrison then went and studied the game and read some of those books he always had and it showed in his mental makeup of the game. I really don’t think we need a starter unless it is that true ace and nobody is on the market right now that fits that mold.

  28. rangersfan32 4 years ago

    Harrison is younger, already performing as good as Garza statistically, has even more upside that already displayed, has proven himself in arguably the most difficult park in the league and is cheap. So no, I don’t think Garza has that much more value than Harrison right now.

  29. abbearden 4 years ago

    Oh I hear ya.. there are quite a bit of clubs who are RH dominant and thats why LH pitchers with the stuff that Harrison has is so intriguing. Is his stock high right now..absolutely, and sure its worth considering a look when it comes to talented pitchers such as Garza.

    I guess it also depends on what the Rangers are looking for from Garza. Colby will probably be gone after this season..especially if he posts another 14 or 15 win season. So then do you have Garza become the #1 who anchors the young staff that could consist of:

    1. Garza
    2. Darvish
    3. Holland
    4. Feliz
    5. Ogando

    *Feldman becomes a FA in 2013 if we dont pick up his option so if he pitches well he might get more money on the market.

    Its all very interesting to speculate on but man I hate giving up talented LH pitching more so than prospects.

  30. oz10 4 years ago

    I didn’t say next year, if he repeats 2011 in 2012 then  will have shown for two years that he has the mental fortitude and stuff to be a number 2. Consecutive 14 win season with a sub 3.40 ERA is #2 stuff, agreed? We have the chance to have sevral number 2 caliber pitchers.

    Side note: This is so awesome to be talking about who we keep in the rotation and who needs to go to the bullpen. I could get used to this. So much better than the old days of which reliever do we try to make a #3 starter and what prospects can we rush along to fill out the rotation.

  31. rangersfan32 4 years ago

    Except Yu Darvish. Luckily Texas has 30 days to get this done without having to worry about other teams

  32. rangersfan32 4 years ago

    Oh I understand you now. Yeah I completely agree on everything. I believe Harrison has the best potential stuff on the staff other than Holland. His offspeed has always been great and the 4-5 added MPH’s on that moving fastball of his makes him tough to hit. He has potential to be a borderline 2/high 3 if he can get more consistent.

    And I can’t get enough of watching a rotation that has this much potential. Once Darvish signs, we’ll have 3 guys with ace potential (Yu, Dutch and Neffy) and a 2/3 guy in Harrison with Lewis putting up solid 2 numbers. I’ll predict now that this ends up being a top 5 rotation in the AL this season. (LAA, TB, SEA, DET, TX is my guess)

  33. I agree with that last statement. You do not give up talented left handed pitching – especially starters who can pitch well in Arlington.

  34. Garza makes no sense. He is not a clear upgrade over what the Rangers already have.

  35. I’d trade Lowe for an upgrade. What do you think?

  36. rangersfan32 4 years ago

    Lowe wouldn’t bring in much. Maybe a package including Lowe could be enough for Sean Marshall. We still need a power lefty in the bullpen

  37. oz10 4 years ago

    Lewis puts up solid two numbers in the post season but is a 4 during the year. He drives me a bit crazy for that fact. But you can never have enough shut down post season guys. I think they let him walk next year as we will have enough to replace him. That and we have to be consistent and lose a solid starting pitcher every year. Seems to be a trend that is working. The bigger question will be on who we convert from reliever to the rotation. Have to keep that streak alive as well.

  38. I like the way you think, sir.

  39. rangersfan32 4 years ago

    Too bad Marshall got shipped to Cincy today. Texas should still be able to lock up one of Gonzalez or Oliver for our pen though.

  40. Marshall definitely would have fit the bill perfectly, but ive still faith in Ollie for a year or Gonzalez.

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