Orioles Rumors: Adam Jones, Tommy Hanson, Fielder

The Orioles acquired Jai Miller today and also sent Brandon Snyder to Texas.  The latest on the team…

  • Executive vice president of baseball operations Dan Duquette told Roch Kubatko of MASNSports.com he wants to improve the Orioles' "on-base capability from top to bottom."  Duquette isn't sure he currently has a .380 OBP guy, and isn't sure if his second baseman is currently on the roster.  The free agents with the best 2011 OBPs include Casey Kotchman, Chris Snyder, Carlos Pena, and Pat Burrell.
  • The Orioles haven't made contract with Luke Scott since non-tendering him on December 12th, reports Kubatko.    
  • The Orioles are fairly confident they will add another outfielder, though that wouldn't necessarily portend an Adam Jones trade, writes Dan Connolly of the Baltimore Sun.  The Orioles were not overly intrigued by the Braves' offer of Jair Jurrjens, Martin Prado, and a minor league pitcher.  Connolly doesn't see Jurrjens as a centerpiece for a Jones trade.  Instead, the Orioles are intrigued by Tommy Hanson.
  • Connolly notes that an extension remains possible for Jones, who is under team control for two more years.  January is always a big month for extensions.
  • An Orioles source told Connolly they would not offer Prince Fielder the seven-year, $140MM deal Mark Teixeira rejected three years ago.  For the Orioles to sign Fielder, Connolly feels that his market would have to completely collapse, and he finds that highly unlikely.  Connolly reiterates that agent Scott Boras and Fielder "did not meet with [Orioles owner] Peter Angelos despite being in the area – which I thought should demonstrate once and for all that the Orioles really aren’t anywhere near the frontburner of this issue and Fielder's side isn't forcing it." 


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230 Comments on "Orioles Rumors: Adam Jones, Tommy Hanson, Fielder"


19bravos95
3 years 8 months ago

No thanks. Adam jones isn’t even worth b-level prospects. The proposed trade of JJ, Prado and prospects was shot down. That was never on the table.

Rangersfan32
3 years 8 months ago

Jones should be worth b prospects, but definitely not worth Prado, Jurrjens or those pitching prospects. Heck, I probably wouldn’t trade any of those straight up for Jones.

3 years 8 months ago

Oh? You’re Wren’s assistant?  You were in the room for negotiations?

3 years 8 months ago

I can’t decide who is more obnoxious… Jays fans worshiping AA or Braves fans asking for Bundy, Machado, Schoop, etc for their pretty good (but not great) ML Talent.

CowboyJames
3 years 7 months ago

or is it the guy who just made THE TWO MOST OBNOXIOUS posts on this forum?

3 years 7 months ago

How clever.

3 years 8 months ago

Hanson would be a much more interesting piece for Bmore.Hope this gets done.

renegadeisback
3 years 8 months ago

Why would Atlanta do that? Hanson is a stud. Jones career OBP is .320.

NYBravosFan10
3 years 8 months ago

I’d bring on Adam Jones but no way would I give up Hanson for him. Or JJ.

3 years 8 months ago

Moving Jurrjens and simultaneously opening up a spot in the rotation for Teheran in exchange for Adam Jones is pretty sound for the Braves. Although i think the O’s would want more

bravesdude
3 years 8 months ago

While Jurrjens has some history with injuries , Jones’ OBP has been low for most of his short career . Both have the same amount of team control left . I wouldn’t give the Orioles too much more . Zeke Spruill at most .     

3 years 8 months ago

Thats fair. I wouldnt give Hanson either thats way too much. But despite his low OBP Jones is still a fairly solid hitter for average with power. CF’s like him dont grow on trees and he would still be a upgrade for ATL

bravesdude
3 years 8 months ago

He actually would not be that much more of an upgrade over Prado . Last year , the guy was obviously hurt . He should put up numbers like .290/.340/.430 when healthy . Getting on base is really what the Braves are needing in their lineup . We have several guys who can hit HR’s . We just need some guys to get on in front of them . Jones would be traded for taking over Bourns spot in CF next after someone else out bids us .

MB923
3 years 8 months ago

Jones has put up a .325 OBP the past 2 years, and sadly that’s his highest ever. Why “should” he put up a .340 OBP?

If getting on base is what the Braves need as you say it is, then Jones isn’t exactly answer.

bravesdude
3 years 8 months ago

Re-read above . I was talking about Prado .

MB923
3 years 8 months ago

My fault man

bravesdude
3 years 8 months ago

No biggie .

Brv Rocks
3 years 8 months ago

The problem is that he really isn’t a CF, he is a LF.

bravesdude
3 years 8 months ago

I don’t know about a straight up trade just for Jones . But I see Hanson possibly having injury problems down the road , much like he did this season . Regardless , he has ace-like stuff . He also has more team control left than Jones . I would ask for Josh Bell along with Jones and throw in Prado .

3 years 8 months ago

Bell? Done.

Are you sure that is all it will cost to get rid of Bell is Jones?

bravesdude
3 years 8 months ago

I might have been thinking of Machado .

OrangeCards
3 years 8 months ago

Machado isn’t going anywhere.

Rangersfan32
3 years 8 months ago

Machado going is just as likely to happen as getting Prado, Jurrjens/Hanson and prospects for Adam freaking Jones.

bravesdude
3 years 8 months ago

I bet he would for Hanson .

Jeff
3 years 8 months ago

I would do Hanson for Jones + B prospect.  I’m not sold on Hanson, and I can easily see him being the 4th best pitcher on the Braves this year, behind Hudson, JJ, and Beachy.  Teheran and Minor won’t be better now, but Teheran is likely to be better in future, and Minor’s going to be solid.

I think Beachy has the brightest future of any Braves pitcher.  JJ can fill in Hudson’s role next year, I’d actually try to extend him right now if I could while his value is lowest, though Boras won’t agree to it I’m sure.

rundmc1981
3 years 8 months ago

So Beachy has done enough in 1/2 of a season for you to extend him (presumably into his arb years), but Hanson hasn’t coming off a season where he was an All-Star if Bruce Brochy didn’t favor his own pitchers? 

I don’t get it. I can understand teams overvaluing players, but give Hanson a free pass. WE COULD GO A WHOLE HECK OF A LOT MORE FROM TEAMS THAN 2 YEARS OF ADAM JONES IF WE DID WANT TO TRADE HANSON. Look at what CIN gave up for Mat Latos!

Jeff
3 years 8 months ago

First part- yes.

Second part- I agree with you.  I think talking to COL for Smith+Fowler for Hanson is worth it.

vonhayesdays
3 years 8 months ago

I agree hanson has already started to break down , but does have ace like stuff , however it isnt ace like if he’s only making 15 starts a year. 

bravesdude
3 years 8 months ago

Much like the O’s are doing with Jones as looking at his upside , you’d have to do the same with Hanson . And this last year was suppose to be his 2nd full year in majors before his injury . But he did in fact start over 30 games and pitch over 200+ innings in 2010 .

vonhayesdays
3 years 8 months ago

and hanson has shown he is injury prone 

Brv Rocks
3 years 8 months ago

Injury prone?  He’s had one injury and has never had any surgery.

NEBravesfan33
3 years 8 months ago

4 years of Tommy Hanson for 2 years of Adam Jones? That’s hilarious.

Rangersfan32
3 years 8 months ago

It’s ridiculous how much you Braves fans think Jones is worth.

Jeff
3 years 8 months ago

Much of it is shellshock from Jeff Franceour’s suck.

bigdawg1980
3 years 8 months ago

i think adam jones reminds me of reggie sanders…a semi-star but never a super-star….i would take him for j.j. only…thats it

bravesdude
3 years 8 months ago

I think that most of us actually realize that while he is no superstar , he is still better than average .

Brv Rocks
3 years 8 months ago

What’s ridiculous is how much the Orioles front office thinks he is worth.  He is an average to good player with only two cost controlled years left.

Jurrjens and Jones are roughly equivalent players. Both are good players who are greatly overvalued by their respective teams (and most fans too).

NYBravosFan10
3 years 8 months ago

Tommy Hanson?!?! That’s a negative Ghost Rider.

rundmc1981
3 years 8 months ago

I guarantee you that Tommy Hanson’s name wasn’t uttered by anyone in the Baltimore organization to ATL. They’re not that dumb even to suggest it. Internally within BAL, of course Hanson’s name generates interest, but ATL isn’t SDG and we’re not trading an ace-in-the-making for anything less than Cal Ripken Jr’s best years. You can’t make talent like his…or else BAL would be doing it.

drumzalicious
3 years 8 months ago

They could be. Just like the Nationals asked for Hanson when we tried to acquire Dunn at the deadline in 2010.

NYBravosFan10
3 years 8 months ago

huh?!?! When was that and who forgot to tell me?

$1639604
3 years 8 months ago

Hanson? Hahahahahahahahahahaha

paulyicecubes
3 years 8 months ago

The Braves never offered Prado and Jurrjens plus a prospect for Jeff Franceour, err, I mean Adam Jones.  That rumor was thoroughly debunked shortly after it surfaced.

3 years 8 months ago

Unless they want to give up Machado and Bundy(PTBNL) I don’t think the Braves are going to trade their 25 year old ace.

bravesdude
3 years 8 months ago

We might would want Josh Bell instead who is closer to ML ready to take over for Chipper after this next year . That’s if Terdoslavich doesn’t take that spot first .

bravesdude
3 years 8 months ago

I might have been thinking of Machado instead of throwing bell in there . But he is closer to being ML ready than Machado .

ugen64
3 years 8 months ago

I can’t believe you’re mentioning Bell and Machado in the same sentence. Machado is a potential future all-star. I would be amazed if Bell is anything more than a bench player.

3 years 8 months ago

Weird… Lefty hasn’t commented on this yet.

inkstainedscribe
3 years 8 months ago

Call me crazy, but I think a deal involving Jones and Hanson is workable. The O’s are taking a gamble that Hanson won’t break down; shoulder injuries are worrisome enough, and his delivery can’t be encouraging. And if Hanson is healthy, there’s no chance the Braves lock him up longterm anyway.

notsureifsrs
3 years 8 months ago

you are crazy

NYBravosFan10
3 years 8 months ago

I see what you’re saying about his delivery and shoulder problems but that’s what pitching coaches are for. If it becomes a serious issue then Roger McDowell will help him find a new delivery. McDowell may be a walking controversy (I might not watch his return to SF) but he is a pretty good pitching coach.

inkstainedscribe
3 years 8 months ago

I think McDowell is an excellent pitching coach. I wonder if he (or anyone) could modify Hanson’s delivery enough to reduce the strain on his shoulder AND leave him an effective major league pitcher.

NYBravosFan10
3 years 8 months ago

guys change their delivery and it usually works well. Look at Charlie Morton.

bravesdude
3 years 8 months ago

This is true , but it doesn’t always work out that way .

Phillies_Aces35
3 years 8 months ago

You also risk that they injure themselves in the process of making an adjustment depending on how drastic the adjustment is. It’s a really challenging thing to do. If anybody could help Hanson, it’d be McDowell though.

bravesdude
3 years 8 months ago

Messing with a pitchers delivery could be a bad idea . But he may to adjust to something different to get that hitch out of it .

vonhayesdays
3 years 8 months ago

yeah new deliveries are easy for pitchers ,   wow, almost never does that work 

NYBravosFan10
3 years 8 months ago

ask John Smoltz and he’ll tell you if it works

vonhayesdays
3 years 8 months ago

one in a million

drumzalicious
3 years 8 months ago

could have sworn Halladay did the same thing when he went to the minors to re-invent himself

vonhayesdays
3 years 7 months ago

obviously it has happened , but for everyone who has done it there is probably a million who have failed and just blew out an elbow , while saving their shoulder , the thing is you dont hear the stories about a pitcher who was good then injured and left baseball you only hear the feel good reinvent myself ones

Brv Rocks
3 years 8 months ago

That’s kind of funny because the Braves have a long history of locking up their home grown players that they want to keep.

craigkimbrelfan
3 years 8 months ago

Uhhhhhh…..no. Intrigued as many are.

Chris_RG
3 years 8 months ago

Jones’s stats would have looked good “pre-Moneyball”, back when people only cared about average, HR, and RBI, but now we know that players like Jones are not that valuable. Heck, according to B-R he only had 1.7 WAR last year. 

Jones for Hanson?? Now there’s a joke. 

elock
3 years 8 months ago

That number was skewed by a ludicrous -1.7 dWAR.  Hanson’s WAR was only 1.8 last season.  WAR is a stupid statistic, but if you believe in it, Hanson’s WAR over the last 3 seasons is 7.6.  Jones is 7.4.  Hanson is coming off an injury.  Basically, there’s not as big a difference in value as you think, at least according to WAR, which you seem to put some value in.  Also, how many “Moneyball” teams that only worry about OBP and not about having players that drive in runs have won the world series?  

vonhayesdays
3 years 8 months ago

most of the braves fans on this site have man crushes on the big red  so really anything short of baltimores whole minor league system and adam jones is still not enough 

rundmc1981
3 years 8 months ago

I think it’s because he reminds me of the fearsome rotation and John Smoltz. His stuff is electric even when he’s not getting mid-90’s. We might have another young stud that surpasses him one of these days, but he’s the flagship of a heralded crop of pitching prospects. I think there are a lot of Braves fans scared of seeing one or a few of these untouchable pitching prospects not pan out…knowing we’ve probably said no to a few deals to keep ’em.

Chris_RG
3 years 8 months ago

The difference is that Jones put up that in a full season. Hanson did not pitch a full season last year and was still more valuable than Jones. 

DK8
3 years 8 months ago

Jones has not been a really good defender in CF since 2008. -1.7 dWAR over the past 3 years looks about right going by UZR.

The difference in future value between Jones and Hanson is likely 5 WAR on the low side and might be closer to 10-12. From the years of control to the fact that Hanson is a year younger and has been more productive, he is far more likely to provide surplus value to his team.

elock
3 years 8 months ago

I watched at least 140 of the Orioles games last season, probably at least that the year before.  Adam Jones is an above-average defender at worst, and a great one at best.  I understand the thought that the Braves wouldn’t do a 1 for 1 for Jones, with Hanson having more years of control left, but it’s not a laugher like some Braves fans believe.  A solid, everyday player who’s made an all-star team, should’ve been one last season (Joyce and Cuddyer?  Seriously?), and has won a gold glove has some value.  Hanson may end up being great, but a guy coming off an injury, who only threw 130 innings last season, gave up more than 1 homer/9 innings and who’s ERA has gone up every year is not necessarily extremely more valuable like some people here would want you to believe.

TheHotCorner
3 years 8 months ago

Using winning a gold glove or making the all star game as part of your argument ruined your whole post.  Neither means a whole lot. 

Chris_RG
3 years 8 months ago

Sounds like a homer to me. 

djones83
3 years 8 months ago

I’m also an O’s fan and have season tickets and watched as many games as you and I believe Jones’ UZR is just about right. He makes a lot of mistakes on routine plays and allows far too many balls over his head by playing too shallow. The Fielding Bible ratings back this up too. He’s not nearly as good as most of us O’s fans make him out to be. He’s a decent player, nothing more. Though I generally think All-star appearances and gold gloves don’t mean much, at the All-star break Jones was hitting .285/.328/.457, Joyce was at .290/.351/.513. Joyce deserved to be there.

3 years 8 months ago

elock, you’re debating with a bunch of people who have seen AJ play an average of 0 times. I wouldn’t waste my time arguing with these people. They’re nuts if they don’t think the Braves would move one of two guys coming off of injuries for a starting CF of AJs quality.

NL_East_Rivalry
3 years 8 months ago

so injuries are the basis of a player’s worth and not actual skill or years or stats? hmm.

Fifty_Five
3 years 8 months ago

WAR exaggerates how overrated he is a little bit. But still he’s below league average in weighted runs created. Combine that with his K rate and low OBP, and he’s really just non spectacular offensively. Defensively i doubt he’s as bad as the metrics say he is but still an average to below average hitter/average fielder shouldn’t net Jurrjens, Prado, and a prospect. Hanson should just be out of the question

rundmc1981
3 years 8 months ago

Finally, some sensibility. 

bravesdude
3 years 8 months ago

Definitely wouldn’t do it if the trade was 1-1 .

drumzalicious
3 years 8 months ago

Sad thing is the Braves seem to still be in love with such stats

Triple Hawpes Brewed
3 years 8 months ago

The O’s homers on this thread need to layoff the crackpipe

danistheguy
3 years 8 months ago

I don’t think I’ve read an Orioles homer post on this thread, to be honest. I should know, I am one.

3 years 8 months ago

Neither have I, I read more from braves homers and blue jays homers then anything else.

vonhayesdays
3 years 8 months ago

many more delusional braves fans here than anything else 

3 years 8 months ago

Seems that way. You’d figure after the free fall they exhibited in Spetember, they’d come back to reality.

bravesdude
3 years 8 months ago

Not considering that Prado , Heyward , Uggla and McCann underachieved at some point during the season and 2 of our starters were injured . People stay healthy and play to their potential , reality would be that the Braves would have made the playoffs quite easily .

Chris Inman
3 years 8 months ago

As paulyicecubes said, the Braves did not offer Jurrjens, Prado, and a minor league player for Jones. The Orioles asked for those players AND more, and the Braves declined…..obviously. 

3 years 8 months ago

Actually the Orioles declined that offer FROM the Braves it wasn’t the other way around.

If Jones is going to be traded it will be based around Hanson and Prado or some of the Braves young pitching in addition to Jurjjens.

MB923
3 years 8 months ago

Like Chris said, that rumor was false.

That’s a horrible trade for the Braves and there can’t be any way possible they proposed that

3 years 8 months ago

I’d call that a good trade for the Braves, they’ve clearly been trying to dump Jurrjens, they won’t even consider trading anyone who they really value(last year’s trading deadline proved that), and Prado’s value is at an all time low for him, and who knows who the no name was. Anyone trading with the Braves should be suspicious.

MB923
3 years 8 months ago

I’d call it a good trade for the Braves ONLY if one of those players (most likely Prado) was in it and No prospect involved.

You are acting as if Jones is a very valuable CFer. The point is, he is not. In the last 4 years, he is ranked 21st in WAR in CF out of 30. His WAR last season was only 1.7 and his WAR the last 4 full seasons has only been 10.2, just above 2.5 per season. His career OPS+ is just 101, which is less than Prado’s which is 108.

His career WAR per 162 games is 2.54 and Prado’s is 2.31. It’s not That big of a difference. This is on B-R. On FanGrahps, Prado actually has a higher WAR

bravesdude
3 years 8 months ago

Anything for Adam Jones beyond only one of JJ or Prado would be ridiculous for the Braves to do .

3 years 8 months ago

Well now it looks like where there is smoke, theres fire. The O’s have re opened negotiations with ATL concerning Jones with Jurjjens, Prado, and a high level pitching prospect not named Teheran.

It also might be exclusively pitching instead of taking on Prado.

bravesdude
3 years 8 months ago

I wouldn’t believe everything you read . It might get you in trouble .

bravesdude
3 years 8 months ago

There is NO way we offered that much for Jones . If that was the offer , I guarantee the Orioles FO would have accepted .

Ryan The Braves Fan For Life
3 years 8 months ago

Hansons a beast

vonhayesdays
3 years 8 months ago

on the trainers table 

3 years 8 months ago

Shoulder inflammation, no structural damage. Some scrub named Halladay was on the DL for it twice in 2004. Wonder where he is now…

-C

Brv Rocks
3 years 8 months ago

Yep, one injury in his professional career makes him injury prone.

craigkimbrelfan
3 years 8 months ago

All these rumors tell me that the Braves definitely like Jones. Though considering the O’s askin price and Wren’s continued interest there is some serious overvaluing going on. By both Wren and Duquette.

not_brooks
3 years 8 months ago

All of the overvaluing is most likely coming from the media. 

Orioles media will tell you that Duquette turned down a package for Jones that included Jurrjens, Prado and prospects. Braves media will tell you that package was never offered.

And, if you click through to read Connolly’s article, you’ll see that he’s probably just bringing up Hanson’s name to generate some blog hits:

“A name that intrigues the Orioles – heck, that intrigues everyone in baseball – is the Braves’ 25-year-old right-hander Tommy Hanson.

He dealt with some shoulder/back problems last year but is one of the best young pitchers in the game. That’s also the reason the Braves likely wouldn’t move him, for Jones or likely anyone else.”

bravesdude
3 years 8 months ago

Actually , I think they would move him for the right player or package . It’s not like we are depleted in our farm system to where we can’t have someone take his spot in the rotation .

vonhayesdays
3 years 8 months ago

thats the first time a braves fan has not just been a down right homer on this thread 

bravesdude
3 years 8 months ago

Well we have starting pitchers who are being blocked as we speak . Why not trade Hanson if it will improve the team . I don’t know about trading him to the O’s cause they don’t really have anything we would want other than maybe Jones and Hardy . But I would like to think that any player would be trade bait for the betterment of the team . But every team should have those untouchables .

Chris Inman
3 years 8 months ago

I agree with bravesdude. ATL would move Hanson if the right deal comes along, especially since Hanson is a Boras client. 

3 years 8 months ago

You’ve been trolling this whole thread. You want to hatefuck a braves fan?

vonhayesdays
3 years 7 months ago

as long as i can do it while tomahawk chopping , then ill figure out what the bleep is hatefucking. seacrest out

NiceGamePrettyBoy
3 years 8 months ago

Wait, the Orioles like Hanson more than Jurrjens? Haha that’s quite surprising.

MB923
3 years 8 months ago

We are talking about the Orioles, the team that has the worst ownership probably in all of sports. IMHO, that wouldn’t surprise me if they liked Jurrjens more.

Jeff
3 years 8 months ago

JJ will have a better career then Hanson.  I’d bet money on it at even odds.

vonhayesdays
3 years 8 months ago

plus jj can pitch past the sixth inning something hanson high pitch count doesnt often afford him

Brv Rocks
3 years 8 months ago

It is common for young strikeout pitchers to have high pitch counts.  Some guy named Halladay had the same problem as a young pitcher.

3 years 7 months ago

JJ pitched past the sixth in 13 of his 23 starts…

-C

vonhayesdays
3 years 7 months ago

which is better than hanson like i said , so ?

Brv Rocks
3 years 8 months ago

I would take that bet.  JJ is an average pitcher.  Hanson has ace potential.

joeybw
3 years 8 months ago

I get why they would prefer Hanson to JJ. Hanson actually strikes people out, JJ needs an awesome defense behind him.

Guest
3 years 8 months ago

haven’t made contact w/luke scott?

craigkimbrelfan
3 years 8 months ago

Connolly gets no credibility, as far as I’m concerned, after his bunk reports last time on the Braves’ ‘offer’ for Jones anyway.

JoshWeaver
3 years 8 months ago

Dan Connolly must have taken a hit of acid before he wrote that article for the Baltimore Sun. Every sports writer and blogger from Atlanta has pretty much had the same reaction as everyone on here. This is complete bologna….I’m sorry O’s fans, but Adam Jones isn’t that great….Maybe a Matt Diaz, Todd Redmond for Adam Jones trade might go through for you Baltimore fans, haha, but there is no way they would give up Prado or Jurrjens for Adam Jones, and they certainly wouldn’t give them away in a package deal for him. As far as the Tommy Hanson speculations go, that makes me think Dan Connolly might have taken 2 hits of acid and drank a fifth of whiskey on top of that before he wrote that….what a dummy.

Brv Rocks
3 years 8 months ago

They would give up Jurrjens for Jones, but they wouldn’t give up much more than that.  Baltimore is nuts if they think the Braves would give up JJ, Prado, prospects or Hanson for a left fielder with a career .320 OBP.

rundmc1981
3 years 8 months ago

Hanson has 4 years left and ace stuff, not to mention an AS first-half (he should have been rather than Vogelsong). Latos has 4 years and ace stuff, not nearly the MLB resume of Hanson and CIN traded 3 future starters (Grandal, Boxberger, Alonso) and the guy TEX traded one-for-one for Josh Hamilton (Edinson Volquez) for Mat Latos.

Now…knowing that, what should BAL give up. Answer: they don’t have enough.

bravesdude
3 years 8 months ago

If Hanson were available , the O’s really couldn’t match up with us .

Brv Rocks
3 years 8 months ago

If Baltimore were willing to give up Jones, Manny machado and another prospect or two then they would have enough.

3 years 8 months ago

I just want to point out how ludicrous this is.

That is all.

bravesdude
3 years 8 months ago

While Jurrjens has some history with injuries , Jones’ OBP has been low for most of his short career . Both have the same amount of team control left . I wouldn’t give the Orioles too much more . Zeke Spruill at most .

MB923
3 years 8 months ago

In all honesty, I would have to say Prado for Jones straight up is almost a fair trade. 

bravesdude
3 years 8 months ago

I would if Jones could play 3rd , 2nd , and 1st to go along with being able to play the OF like Prado can .

cacavolante
3 years 8 months ago

oh so jones’ defense doesnt play in center but prado’s offense plays at first?

Brv Rocks
3 years 8 months ago

Disagree.  Prado is a better overall hitter and more versatile.  JJ for Jones is the most equal offer.

MB923
3 years 8 months ago

Well I’d say JJ is more valuable as a pitcher than Prado is as an OFer. And Jones’ value is slightly more than Prado but Way less than Jones’.

Perhaps Prado and maybe a very low level prospect but nothing higher.