Players Avoiding Arbitration: Monday

In advance of tomorrow's 11am central time deadline to exchange arbitration figures, settlements will be rolling in today.  Follow all of the action with MLBTR's arbitration tracker.  The latest for players under $4MM:


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48 Comments on "Players Avoiding Arbitration: Monday"


3 years 7 months ago

I expect Hughes to bounce back to his first half of 2010 form next year.

MB923
3 years 7 months ago

Yeah but he won’t be matching those innings if he’s in the bullpen though which there is a good chance he could be.

3 years 7 months ago

It looks like he might be, but I would be surprised if he is at the same time. I would just dump Burnett to any taker, the Pirates since they take our scraps. He is in that big workout program in California, I think he will prove he can stay in the rotation come ST.

FillyPhan
3 years 7 months ago

You couldn’t dump Burnett if you paid the other team another 16.5mil to take him.

vtadave
3 years 7 months ago

Disagree.

Sincerely,

The Pirates, Astros, and Royals

Tyler Jedrzejak
3 years 7 months ago

the royals are not just as low as the astros or pirates, thinkin the royals pass as well

Lunchbox45
3 years 7 months ago

few teams would pass on AJ with 16 million from the yanks, if anything else he’ll eat innings, and the royals dont exactly have 1-5 locked up for their rotation.

silly to think they pass on that 

3 years 7 months ago

Tell that to Derek Lowe, circa 2011. The only difference is that Burnett has a higher salary and isn’t as good.

Unless the Yanks bark up about $25MM, Burnett’s going to be in New York in 2012. If he pitches at his current rate, they’re still going to have to give away $10+MM in 2013 to get rid of him.

-C

3 years 7 months ago

Yes, you could.

YanksFanSince78
3 years 7 months ago

Plenty of teams would take Burnett for a couple of million. AJ was a VERY good pitcher before 2010 and has been healthy and still throws hard. Obviously he is more of a #4 or #5 vs a #2 right now but he still misses bats (8 K/9), induce GB (49% rate) and can contribute innings (4 years of 185+ IP). 

redsx968
3 years 7 months ago

They take your scraps like… Tabata?

3 years 7 months ago

Steven Jackson, Ross Ohlendorf, Dan McCutchen, Eric Hacker, Jeff Karstens, etc.

3 years 7 months ago

I think AJ will be traded. If Hughes can’t beat Freddy for the 5th spot, he really doesn’t deserve to be in the rotation.

3 years 7 months ago

Me too

asdf asdf
3 years 7 months ago

i hate AJ, but I do believe he can put up ok numbers with another club.

YanksFanSince78
3 years 7 months ago

If I were Cash I would consider how hard Hughes has been working in the offseason and if he comes into camp healthy and motivated to rebound then I would prefer him over AJ and Garcia.

Salmon4Coach
3 years 7 months ago

I was expecting to see Aybar avoiding it.. So hopefully that happens later on today or tomorrow

YanksFanSince78
3 years 7 months ago

Sabathia-Kuroda-Pineda-Nova-Hughes 

Trade Garcia (probably a lot easier to move than AJ).

Move AJ to the pen.

Depth: Warren-Phelps-Mitchell-Banuelos-Betances all at AAA, and all mlb/near mlb ready..

That’s a ton of young pitching waiting for use or ready to be packaged.

CaseyBlakeDeWitt
3 years 7 months ago

Since they just signed Garcia, don’t they need his permission to trade him? I’m pretty sure that’s a rule..

Tyler Jedrzejak
3 years 7 months ago

why trade Garcia. He is a good back up plan if nothing else. Start the season with hughes in the pen Garcia as the number 5 and then when garcia struggles and Hughes flourishes swap them. No need to rush hughes back in it and trade a decent player in Garcia.

YanksFanSince78
3 years 7 months ago

I want to start Hughes out from ST so he’s stretched out already.

John McFadin
3 years 7 months ago

A number of pitches start in ST but are in the pen come opening day.  My team’s example (if Darvish is signed):  Alexi Ogando.

Lunchbox45
3 years 7 months ago

 I think the yanks are better off trading AJ then putting him in the pen and risk him sulking..

As bad as he’s been, he’s still an asset, eat some salary and some NL team might give up something half decent for him.

I could see him on the mets or even the nationals

3 years 7 months ago

Maybe Mets, definitely not Nats. John Lannan is a decent 4, and they want their last spot for someone.

0bsessions
3 years 7 months ago

Burnett to the pen reeks of complete disaster. You don’t take a guy who’s projecting a BB/9 just shy of 4 and throw him in the bullpen. I think the Yankees would literally be better off designating him and shipping him out for free than putting him in the pen.

Also, I’d call Pineda the clear number two on your staff.

YanksFanSince78
3 years 7 months ago

A Burnett for Hafner deal makes sense but I’m not sure how the Indians view Pomeranz, Huff, Carrasco, Tomlin, etc as being mlb ready or dependable innings eaters.

CaseyBlakeDeWitt
3 years 7 months ago

They traded Pomeranz, and Carrasco had TJ surgery. Plus they already have Jimenez-Masterson-Carmona-Lowe-Tomlin for the rotation so I don’t see them as a good match for Burnett.

YanksFanSince78
3 years 7 months ago

My bad on Pomeranz. I knew he was traded but still was listed on an old depth chart. 

I should have said, Burnett plus $16.5. That way the Hafner 2012 salary plus his buyout end up a wash and you open up some money for 2013 as well as clear a rotation spot.

vtadave
3 years 7 months ago

Looks like Burnett has $33 million left through 2013 while Hafner gets $13 million this year and then hits free agency after 2012 ($2.75 million buyout).

Hafner though hasn’t been healthy since 2007 and there are still lingering questions about his foot.

John McFadin
3 years 7 months ago

Fascinated by Hafner.  Always was one of my favorite players.

3 years 7 months ago

Re the Arb Tracker: wouldn’t it be nicer to replace the dagger/double dagger (or obelisk/diesis, if you prefer…no one?) notation with a ‘W’ column populated with a T, P or blank?

3 years 7 months ago

Not a bad idea, but I felt that with 3-4 guys each year going to a hearing it wasn’t worth a column.

popular_mechanics_for_pitchers
3 years 7 months ago

I wouldn’t say he “nailed” Callaspo’s arb fig. damn close would have been better

verlander
3 years 7 months ago

Interesting wording: “$50K in incentives for appearances or starts, MLBTR has learned.”

Makes me wonder if the Tigers still see Coke as possibly starting, or if it’s just wording his agent wanted in there.

AlKelz
3 years 7 months ago

I have been wondering if a Burnett for Soriano swap makes sense , Soriano still has pop , would fill in the DH spot  and has had some good years in a Yankee uniform. The Cubs get a fourth or fifth starter who has had success in the National League and increased depth should they move Garza .

So on the surface it makes sense for both sides . Now let’s see if Theo and Cashman agree ?

YanksFanSince78
3 years 7 months ago

Too much money as Soriano is owed about $18 mil more than AJ and has 3 years left on his deal. Arod might need to move to DH before those 3 years are up. Also, the Yanks are presumably looking for a lefty who crushes righties to complement Jones who bats righty and crushes lefties. Soriano is an odd one in that he’s a righty who crushes righties but not lefties. Doubt the Yankees would want both Soriano AND Jones. 

 Oh and almost forgot….Soriano sucks (see .312 OBP vs righties and .282 vs lefties). 

Tyler Jedrzejak
3 years 7 months ago

lol but burnett sucks too soriano and burnett have about the same value to their positions. the cubs have said they would eat salary on soriano to move him too so they make it even and swap? makes some sense. Soriano has a little pop and burnett has a little durability 

YanksFanSince78
3 years 7 months ago

Yes, but it doesn’t make sense to bring in Soriano for 3 years when we can just sign someone and equal or better production.

Tyler Jedrzejak
3 years 7 months ago

Seems like kinda a lot for someone like Morgan…

stl_cards16
3 years 7 months ago

I’m wondering how well he holds up with the Brew Crew this year. He is the kind of player everyone loves when you’re winning. If things start going bad this year, we’ll see how well his teammates tolerate him.

Hodor
3 years 7 months ago

1.35 million is about 1 million more than JP Howell is worth.  Hell, the Rays could put up any starting varsity pitcher from Hillsborough County High School and get better results.

vtadave
3 years 7 months ago

Could one of those varsity pitchers do what Howell did in 2008 and 2009? As scarce as good LHPs are these days and factoring in that Howell is still just 28, the Rays were right to give him one more chance.

cardsfan209
3 years 7 months ago

Milwaukee should add incentives to Morgan’s arbitration deal that would guarantee him more money if he promises not to run his mouth on twitter.

vtadave
3 years 7 months ago

Good idea.  They can call it the “Logan Morrison Clause”.

YanksFanSince78
3 years 7 months ago

before 2010:

2002: 204 IP w/ a 3.19 FIP (3.30 ERA)
2004: 120 IP w/ a 3.19 FIP (3.68 ERA)
2005: 2009 IP w/ a 3.11 FIP (3.44 ERA)
2006: 135 IP w/ a 3.79 FIP (3.98 ERA)
2008: 221 IP w/ a 3.45 FIP (4.07 ERA)
2009: 2.07 IP w/ a 4.33 FIP (4.04 ERA)

With the Marlins, he was a true #2 with flashes of a #1. With the Jays and the Yanks (in 2009) a true #2/#3 in the AL East.

John McFadin
3 years 7 months ago

Talk about being a workhorse.  He should have won some time of award in 2005 for throwing over 2000+ innings.  :P. 

Anyways, I fully agree with what you’re saying.  I don’t think blackcourt has seen his BRef or FG player page.

Brad426
3 years 7 months ago

Meh, couple that with the 2.07 innings pitched in 2009 and it balances out.

Brad426
3 years 7 months ago

Meh, couple that with the 2.07 innings pitched in 2009 and it balances out.