Prince Fielder Rumors: Monday

It's hard to imagine that anything's holding back the market for Prince Fielder at this point. Albert Pujols signed more than a month ago, Yu Darvish and the Rangers worked out a deal, and agent Scott Boras has taken the time to introduce Fielder to some MLB owners. It doesn't seem likely that a new suitor for the powerful free agent first baseman will emerge if Boras continues waiting, since the sale of the Dodgers won't be completed on time to convince the new ownership group of Fielder's value. We're left with rumors linking Fielder to the Nationals, Rangers, Mariners, Dodgers, Cubs and Orioles, but not much certainty. Here are the latest updates on Fielder, with the most recent notes up top:

  • A Nationals source says he would be "stunned" to see the Nats give Fielder a contract for longer than seven years, reports Adam Kilgore of the Washington Post.  Kilgore also looks at some other recent contracts for slugging first basemen and predicts Fielder will receive a seven-year, $170MM deal with whatever team signs him.
  • The Orioles haven't met with Boras and don't have a meeting scheduled, Roch Kubatko of MASNsports.com tweets. There's some interest, depending on Boras' asking price, but Kubatko doesn't expect the Orioles to chase Fielder. "They're nowhere near being in position to sign him," he writes.
  • One GM told Rosenthal that the Rangers are in on Fielder "hard," though others say the Rangers won't go heavy on years (Twitter link).
  • The Orioles are "definitely in on" Fielder and there's plenty of motivation to sign him, Jim Duquette of MLB Network Radio and MLB.com tweets. Duquette is a former Orioles GM who's the cousin of current GM Dan Duquette. Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports points out that interest from the Orioles and Nationals gives Boras leverage (Twitter link).
  • The Nationals are a finalist for Fielder, Bob Nightengale of USA Today tweets. The Rangers and at least one other club are still in the running for him.
  • There's now "something close to a final four" for Fielder, tweets Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com.
  • The Rangers' management team is in the Dominican Republic for the next week, so it's doubtful the team will sign Fielder in the near future, Evan Grant of the Dallas Morning News tweets.
  • The Nationals continue to work on a deal for Fielder, but there was no agreement as of last night, tweets Jim Bowden of MLB Network Radio and ESPN.com. Tom Haudricourt of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel repeats (on Twitter) that there's no deal at the moment.


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  1. UltimateYankeeFan 3 years ago

    Take it to the bank Fielder maxes out at 6 to 7 years / $120 to $140MM total.  Size him up for that Nationals uniform when all is said and done.

    • GOTIGERS24 3 years ago

      He would have been in a nationals uniform 1 month ago if we would take that deal he wants wayyy more money.

      • UltimateYankeeFan 3 years ago

        Wanting and getting are 2 totally different things.  It’s getting down to crunch time.  In my opinion there are just a few of teams that he’s a fit for and even fewer willing to commit the years and money for even a 6 or 7 year deal at those dollars. 

        We’ll see where he winds up and for how much. 

    • Milwaukee television station WTMJ4 was reporting this morning that Fielder is working on the final touches of a deal with the Nationals – 8 years.  Looks as though someone is trying to push the rumor via Milwaukee media … Boras?

      • jhfdssdaf 3 years ago

        I can’t believe Boras would ever push a rumor unless it was absolutely true and honest.  Why, just the other day he sold me some beach front property in Arizona.  The deed is in the mail… somewhere.

        • Enjoy that property, jred! Scott recently sold me a mountain resort in Illinois. Can’t wait to see it!

      • renegadeisback 3 years ago

        Since when do television stations get their news from FAKE twitter accounts?

        • The weird part is that the report does not appear on the TMJ 4 website – only the bit about the Brewers installing their NL Central “pennant.”  Dunno.  They sure hyped it like the signing was going to be on live.

      • renegadeisback 3 years ago

        Since when do television stations get their news from FAKE twitter accounts?

    • captainjeter 3 years ago

      this is  beyond stupid. Hey Prince  it is almost  Feburary and you have no home. What  are  you  trying to set a record for the longest  hold out by a  FA?
      You and Boras need to come down from yiur high horses. You don’t  have the Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers, Tigers, Angels and Phillies  in play. Most  teams can’t afford the outrageous amount of money and years you want. Just because  Morneo was  stupid enough to give a  10 year  deal to a 32 yr  old player  does not mean you are  getting the same. Your  weight is an issue . Everytime   I see you run rhe  bases,you are out of  breath and look  like  you need  an oxygen mask.  Weight  clause  should be included.
      Take  a  6 year  @25  million and  call it   a day.
      @blackcourt:disqus 

      • So, captainjeter, I’m guessing that you’re a Yankees fan. Can you tell me how Morneo [sic] signing Pujols to a 10-year deal is any different from your team signing A-Rod to a 10-year deal? They’ll both be 42 when the contract is over…

  2. MarinersRoyalsBraves2014 3 years ago

    Prince Fielder is holding a presser today to announce his retirement.

  3. ARod's Ring 3 years ago

    A rough last 2 years for Boras… seems like the League is starting to figure him out. (Hopefully the Nationals won’t bid against themselves again a la Werth.)

    • Natsfan89 3 years ago

      They didn’t bid against themselves for Werth. They knew the dudes career stats and that he would never live up to the contract they gave him, they just wanted to show that they aren’t a small market team and are willing to spend money.

      • HobokenMetsFan 3 years ago

        I agree, saw the Werth deal as the same as the Mets deal with Pedro in ’05. Needed him to build credibility

      • InLeylandWeTrust 3 years ago

        That’s the dumbest rationalization I have ever heard. So they could have gotten him cheaper, but wanted to show the world they really can spend money? Really…?

      • InLeylandWeTrust 3 years ago

        That’s the absolute worst rationalization I have ever heard. So they could have gotten Werth for cheaper, but instead wanted to show the world they really can spend money? Really…?

        • Natsfan89 3 years ago

          I didn’t say they could have signed Werth for cheaper.

          Before Werth the Nationals biggest FA signings had been guys like Adam Kennedy and Jason Marquis. They wanted to show players around the league that they were gearing up to compete and weren’t afraid of spending money to bring guys in to help do that.

          • Red_Line_9 3 years ago

            Teams can show others they are serious free agent players without actually signing players.  By the time things hit the media and the fans…it’s old news to the players and offices around the league.  One phone call to an agent says you are serious with an offer.  To me it is all about who you make that commitment to.  What I see from the Nationals is a good farm system…and some questionable signings and rumors of signings.  Fielder at 8 years to an NL team is crazy…..I’m not even sure he’d be worth the money to an AL team over that period as a DH.  It’s not just that he will be a DH…but his bat will likely slow…and teams don’t need to employee the lumbering DH of the 1970’s and 80’s anymore.  It’s a misuse of funds over the long term.

  4. Alex 3 years ago

    Would the Nats signing Fielder make them the favorite in the NL East?

    • UltimateYankeeFan 3 years ago

      Not sure it would make them the favorite, but I sure think it would make them a favorite to make the postseason.  And as the Cardinals proved last year once you get to the dance anything is possible.

    • LUWahooNatFan 3 years ago

      I’d say it’d put them right on par with Atlanta

    • burritolikethesun 3 years ago

      There are people actually dignifying this question with responses.

  5. daner51 3 years ago

    Prince Fielder is going to the team from his childhood.  He remembers driving baseballs into that short porch upper deck in old Tiger Stadium when he was a kid. Miguel Cabrera is moving back to 3rd, where he started in the bigs, and Prince plays 1B.  Simple.   Done deal.    

    This is at least as accurate as anything anyone else has written here!

    • chrisn313 3 years ago

      No. Just… No.

    • InLeylandWeTrust 3 years ago

      As awesome as that lineup would be, we would have an all-time bad defense. Miggy probably couldn’t play 3rd for more than 1 game in a row, let alone an entire season.

    • Rabbitov 3 years ago

      I think just as logical would be to move Cabrera to closer and Fielder to center field. 

  6. clearly he’s holding out for the padres.

  7. NWDC 3 years ago

    The only reason Bowden tweeted (other than being a blowhard that’s usually wrong) is that he lent credibility to a tweet by some 14 year old kid pretending to be an “insider” — the kid tweeted that the Nats had signed Prince Fielder “done deal” to an 8 year deal with a 3 year opt out.  Never mind this kid has tweeted more nonsense than you can imagine and then he just deletes all the false rumors retroactively.  Of course he is sometimes right — about the same time the news of any signing breaks on twitter — and somehow has a tiny following of people mocking him.  Anyway, I don’t know if Bowden retweeted him or just followed him but that put several people up in arms.  So Bowden cleared it up.

  8. Orioles will swoop in and sign him…you heard it here…..talks are progressing

    • danistheguy 3 years ago

      To quote you, “AND YOU KNOW THIS HOW?”

      • Simple. Read my post dude.

      • I have a buddy that interns with them.They were crunching numbers last night, and are trying to convince Angelos

        • danistheguy 3 years ago

          So says Jen Royle, and thus so says you.

        • danistheguy 3 years ago

          And even if you’re right, Prince still has to want to come play for the Baltimore Orioles. I hope he does, but somehow I doubt that.

        • fcr_lanham 3 years ago

          So an “intern” is in on the biggest stealth signing of the MLB off-season.

          And Angelos isn’t yet?

    • The_Porcupine 3 years ago

      I’ve been thinking that a team that hasn’t been talked about much would swoop in and pick up Fielder.  Kinda like last year with Cliff Lee.  I see no reason why the Mariners would be more appealling than the O’s (other than money, but do you sell your sell to hit in Safeco?).  The Cubs have a big name prospect that will probably be ready by the end of the year.  The Rangers would essentially have to sacrifice Hamilton to sign Fielder (can’t see them being able to afford both).  The Dodgers are financially in limbo at the moment.  I could see Detroit signing him but what to do with Martinez next year (and Cabrera to 3b is ridiculous).  The Nationals are the only other legitimate fit, but I don’t think they will get him (they’ve traditionally been a quick strike, quick sign type team).  I’m quietly optimistic (or dreaming if you like).

      • The Rangers would have to sacrafice both Michael Young and Josh Hamilton. The Orioles could benefit by the Rangers signing Fielder by trading for both those fellows. I would be all for it.
        Would it mean trading both Adam Jones and Zach Britton among others. Yes! However, I would be all for it!

        • The_Porcupine 3 years ago

          Not at the cost of Britton.

        • ChrisV 3 years ago

          They wouldn’t have to sacrifice both. The Rangers have a new tv agreement coming into effect in 2015. So, all it would take is some back-loading on Fielder’s or Hamilton’s contract to have both and Young. Of course it also means that Fielder will have to take a slight pay cut which would partly happen if he takes a cut in contract length. It takes creativeness, which the Rangers are good at. Look at Darvish’s contract.  

  9. Anthony Rainier 3 years ago

    The only way the Rangers would be able to get him would be to put together a back loaded deal, of 8-10 years that would require Fielder taking only 10-14 million per year for the first half of the contract. Until the Rangers money flows in from their new TV deal, which is 2015, they are cash poor right now. The owners want to lock up Hamilton first, but if they are able to get Fielder to accept a deal like that, unlikely with Boras involved, they will be happy with keeping their roster as is.  

  10. Bombastic_Dave 3 years ago

    I check these threads, desperately hoping beyond hope to see the Jays involved.  It’s a ridiculous hope, I know.  

  11. LUWahooNatFan 3 years ago

    If I had to guess on a ‘Final Four’ I’d say Seattle, Washington, Toronto, and Los Angeles

    • If the Los Angeles Dodges sign Prince Fielder, the whole organization should be renamed “The Solyndra Dodgers” and an investigation started.
      PS If Prince Fielder is serious about getting signed by Spring Training, he should fire Scott Boras

      • harmony55 3 years ago

        Wouldn’t firing Scott Boras slow down the process for teams that have been negotiating and laying down a groundwork with Boras since Day One?

      • harmony55 3 years ago

        Prince Fielder … and Scott Boras … were serious about signing before Spring Training.

    • $5427573 3 years ago

      Replace Toronto with Orioles.  There’s been no real indication that Toronto has any interest.  Though with that alone that might actually mean that they are trying for them….

  12. Mo_GOAT 3 years ago

    Can he pitch? 

  13. from atlanta braves radio network:@MLBInsideNews on twitter reporting Prince Fielder is set to sign 8 year
    deal with #Nationals just has to fly from home in FL to DC for physical

  14. He’s signing with Texas, he’s already agreed on there offer, everyones just trying to drag this out. Don’t believe me, just wait 24 hours from now when everyone will be whining that its the wilson/pujols, darvish/fielder show.

    • Grow up. No one has time for this.

      • jb226 3 years ago

        Didn’t you just post almost the exact same inanity an hour ago about the Orioles?  Some sort of expression involving pots and kettles is coming to mind.

    • MadmanTX 3 years ago

      Heard a similar rumor. Funny how going to the DR makes it look more like Rangers aren’t interested…like they can’t do a signing and schedule a press conference for when they get back.

      • Manny Being Manny 3 years ago

        Do you mean the fake twitter someone did a couple hours ago about him signing with the Rangers?

  15. PWNdroia 3 years ago

    If Fielder wants to win now, sign with the Rangers.

  16. Natsfan89 3 years ago

    This is getting old Fatty Magoo. Your agent badly misjudged the market for you. Pick a team already.

  17. NYYANKEES 3 years ago

    the 3rd team? Is it Baltimore, Seattle, or Chicago?

    • Natsfan89 3 years ago

      Seattle is my guess.

      • Manny Being Manny 3 years ago

        Why would he go to a team thats all the way across the country from his home town, and in a total pitchers ballpark? Not to mention they’ve now got their DH of the future in Montero.

        Mariners are out of it. So are Cubs, since they got Rizzo.

        Baltimore is the only logical answer here.

        • Natsfan89 3 years ago

          Lots and lots of money and decent core of young players?

          Baltimore is only logical if he doesn’t care about winning anything for the remainder of his time in the league.

          • Manny Being Manny 3 years ago

            The fact he’s even considering the Nats and Mariners show he cares more about money than winning, since neither of them are much better than the Orioles.

          • lefty177 3 years ago

            have you seen the Nats projected roster recently?

          • lefty177 3 years ago

            have you seen the Nats projected roster recently?

          • Natsfan89 3 years ago

            Saying the Nationals aren’t much better than the blO’s shows you know nothing about baseball and anything you say should be ignored.

          • Manny Being Manny 3 years ago

            Both teams will end in the 72-75 win range, if you don’t add Fielder to either team.

          • Natsfan89 3 years ago

            I can’t tell if you’re trolling or if you’re actually this stupid.

          • You expect the Nats to regress by 5-8 wins with improved pitching and presumably similar/improved offense?

          • Natsfan89 3 years ago

            It’s clear he knows nothing. Just ignore him.

          • Jack 3 years ago

            I think they played over their heads, and the Marlins are gonna be better this year.

          • Natsfan89 3 years ago

            They spent all but a month without Strasburg  and Zimmerman was gone for 2 months. They aren’t going to regree 5-8 wins.

  18. Alex Nelson 3 years ago

    Texas, Seattle, Washington I assume are the three. What you think?

  19. Alex Nelson 3 years ago

    Scrap that I think rangers are limited so my guess is Washington Seattle and Los Angeles.

    • lol the Rangers are limited?

      • RangersFan1990 3 years ago

        He says that, and then lists the Dodgers.

      • Bob Simpson has said that the Rangers WILL run at a deficit until 2015.  I’m not sure if that means the ownership group is willing to spend big bucks, or if the revenue isn’t expected to be there

  20. rmlegs 3 years ago

    I think it comes down to the Nationals and Orioles, with Boras playing them against each other.  Nats win in the end…..

  21. rmlegs 3 years ago

    I think it comes down to the Nationals who outbid late push by the O’s, which Boras uses to get an extra year and opt-out clause

    • The Orioles look completely stupid if Fielder goes to the Nationals especially if the Nats outbid for him!
      The Orioles look stupid anyway,  but they might as well contract and /or merge with the Astros.
       
      The Orioles can help themselves if the Rangers sign Fielder or they sign him themselves, but if we lose out to the Nats and we put in a last second bid, that will be the final straw of devastation of what was once an excellent organization.

      • Jack 3 years ago

        My thoughts exactly, if Fielder signs with the Nats they will lose the Balt/DC metro area.

  22. Mark12 3 years ago

    Watch out for the Dodgers.

  23. Paul Shailor 3 years ago

    I kinda want the yankees to sign him just cuz. Everyone knows in 3 years he will be a dh anyways if hes in the AL. Just go break the bank NYY and then laugh as the Red Sox get Wandy.

  24. Tony Matias 3 years ago

    Mariners are certainly interested, but the likelihood of signing Fielder is low. Jack Z. already made the “move” for the club with Montero, and he probably believes that it will appease the M’s fans just enough so that they keep coming to Safeco.

  25. Aj 3 years ago

    Rangers! Rangers! Rangers!

  26. MadmanTX 3 years ago

    lol how people are really falling for the “poor us” Rangers line again…like they did with Darvish. You really think that after going out and getting Darvish that the Rangers would shut the doors on improving themselves further? The only way that Fielder doesn’t end up in a Rangers uniform is if some team with more money than brains offers him the 7-10 year deal he has been craving. Otherwise, it will come down to roughly equal money/years between Nats and Rangers and Fielder will have to choose which team gets him to the World Series quicker.

    • baschkar 3 years ago

      the Ben&Skin radio show said it best by saying that there’s no reason Prince is on the market this long if he doesnt want to be a Ranger. I understand Boras could’ve been waiting for the Rangers to sign Yu so he could see how much leverage he had. But for Prince to still be unsigned is a clearly a sign of him wanting to be a Ranger. Now we just wait for teams like to Nats and M’s to see how stupid they’ll get (or wont get) with their offers.

      • mwagner26 3 years ago

        I’ve pretty much thought the M’s were out of the running a few weeks ago when we acquired Montero.

      • mwagner26 3 years ago

        I’ve pretty much thought the M’s were out of the running a few weeks ago when we acquired Montero.

      • “But for Prince to still be unsigned is a clearly a sign of him wanting to be a Ranger.”
        This is just illogical.

    • baschkar 3 years ago

      the Ben&Skin radio show said it best by saying that there’s no reason Prince is on the market this long if he doesnt want to be a Ranger. I understand Boras could’ve been waiting for the Rangers to sign Yu so he could see how much leverage he had. But for Prince to still be unsigned is a clearly a sign of him wanting to be a Ranger. Now we just wait for teams like to Nats and M’s to see how stupid they’ll get (or wont get) with their offers.

  27. 12in12 3 years ago

    As the market continues to stay stagnate, is there a chance that Prince could/would sign a 1-year $25 mil deal and try again next winter? I could see a lot more teams jumping in for a one-year flyer. Detroit, Milwaukee, Florida, Philadelphia?, Arizona, Cleveland, Colorado, plus the teams already mentioned. That could be really interesting. Obviously there is a huge risk, but it could also be a bigger payoff in next year’s market then what he can get now. Any thoughts?

    • Natsfan89 3 years ago

      Where does Prince play in Philadelphia?

      • baschkar 3 years ago

        on a 1-yr deal he plays first. Howard is out for most of the season if not all of it.

        • jhfdssdaf 3 years ago

          Howard is expected to resume baseball activities by mid to late February.  How does that have him out for most of the season?  Mlb’s website has a news story.  Did you read it?

          • 12in12 3 years ago

            I know what the story says, I also know that Kendrys Morales was supposed to be ready for Spring Training in 2011…I also didn’t say that Philadelphia would be interested, hence the “Philadelphia?” In fact, this is all COMPLETE speculation, just like the rest of this thread. I just thought it might inspire some interesting conversation.

          • jhfdssdaf 3 years ago

            Sorry.   I didn’t mean that towards you, but to the person who was placing Fielder at first for the Phillies because Howard was out.

            Depending on the one year cost, there are any number of teams that could try to make a push.  While I don’t think Philly is one of them (no room in the budget), there is no telling who would jump in at the right price.

      • jhfdssdaf 3 years ago

        With Lidge gone, he can set up for Papelbon

    • Natsfan89 3 years ago

      Where does Prince play in Philadelphia?

  28. Manny Being Manny 3 years ago

    I think the main reason Orioles are getting into it now is because Angelos doesn’t want the Nats to take more of his fanbase. He was already totally against the idea of them coming to Washington a couple years ago, and forced MLB to play their games on his own TV station… if they get Fielder, it would be just another blow. I think he’ll do anything in his power to keep Fielder away from them, even if it means signing him.

    • Devil’s advocate, but increasing the Nats’ popularity could help him for a similar reason: better ratings on MASN.  Even with the Nats getting a increased share of those profits he probably won’t be too disappointed if they end up making a move to boost that revenue stream.

  29. Manny Being Manny 3 years ago

    I think the main reason Orioles are getting into it now is because Angelos doesn’t want the Nats to take more of his fanbase. He was already totally against the idea of them coming to Washington a couple years ago, and forced MLB to play their games on his own TV station… if they get Fielder, it would be just another blow. I think he’ll do anything in his power to keep Fielder away from them, even if it means signing him.

  30. Omazing 3 years ago

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  31. $3513744 3 years ago

    We can speculate all we want how they’re going to win or lose, but the point remains that anyone can look at the two organizations and see that the Nats are in much better position to win soon. There’s nothing in Baltimore to be excited about.  

  32. ChrisV 3 years ago

    Fielder situation = confusing. Mariners, Nationals, Orioles, Rangers, Dodgers…too many rumors. Too back and fourth. If you want money, go to the Nationals. If you want a chance at a World Series in your prime, go to the Rangers. If you decide elsewhere…then something is not right. Safeco field is terrible for hitters, the Orioles are not near able to compete with the Yankees or Red Sox, even the Jays. The Dodgers are not in the best management situation. Choose soon please, we fans are tired of waiting. 

  33. Stuart 3 years ago

    JUST SIGN ALREADY. Sign a 1 year with the brewers and then sign your 10 year deal next year with the dodgers

  34. CommissionerBart 3 years ago

    I suspect the Nats are the seriious bidders and the Rangers are interested only if the price comes way down. So Boras has the Nats bidding against themselves again a la Werth.

    Though the Nats are one of the four teams I follow most closely, IF the rumors about an 8 year deal with a 3 year player opt out are true, I’ll be disappointed. Way too much money overall and way too long a commitment for someone with Fielder’s projected longetivity and productivity decline.  Why give in to Boras on everything? Length of contract, compensation, player opt out, no -trade clause, etc.??

    Rizzo is willing to play games with Boras but I hope Learner is too wise to get hoodwinked again.

    And I wouldn’t sign any kind of contract with Fielder without very strict mandatory weight and fitness clauses, mandating he be in much better shape than he has been. Imagine the monster he could be then!

    • cacavolante 3 years ago

      hilarious when grown ups follow multiple teams. and pathetic…

  35. This hold out by Prince makes me wonder if maybe he really doesn’t want to play for either the Nationals or Rangers; maybe there’s some other team he desperately wants to play for, and he’s holding out to see if they’ll jump in the sweepstakes.  

    He does live in Florida, so the Marlins might make sense, and they were supposedly willing to pay $275 mil for Pujols…he did spend a sizeable chunk of his childhood in Detroit, so maybe he’s hoping that the Tigers will recognize the opportunity to make up for the loss of V-Mart’s bat (and then some)… or, since he was born in SoCal, maybe he dreams of playing in Los Angeles, and is hoping that McCourt can make one final move to inflate the value of the Dodgers for prospective bidders.  

    I dunno.  Just thinking… 

    • RangersFan1990 3 years ago

      Prince really wants to play in Texas, I can almost promise you that.

      • Dave Stewart 3 years ago

        Apparently, Prince wants to win now. I think that’s the main reason he hasn’t signed. The Rangers are trying to decide whether they want Prince AND Hammy this year, and then lose Hamilton after ’12. Young, as good a Ranger as he has been, has a monster contract that will end after the ’13 season. Texas has a huge media deal that kicks in after 2013, so they would have to operate at a HUGE deficit during the 2013 season if they found a way to keep Hamilton. (in the neighborhood of $60 million for Young, Fielder, and Hamilton).

    • Jack 3 years ago

      Its not that he doesnt want to play for the Rangers, its the Rangers dont want to pay him what he wants.

      • That and there’s a lot of internal discussion about is it worth it signing Prince Fielder and trading Josh Hamilton and Michael Young.  The Orioles have to swoop down and get them if they are available for trade. Otherwise, if the Rangers don’t sign him and Prince Fielder goes to the Nationals, the Orioles are toast for good. Who’s going to want to come to the Yard and watch those guys play? The Yard will look like the Old Marlin stadium with between 900 and 1500 fans attending the games. It would be a disaster.

        • Jack 3 years ago

          I’m not sure if I would want either. Young is getting long in the tooth, and Hamilton body will break down before Fielders.

          • I don’t want to get stuck with a 6 + year contract with Fielder. To me at least that’s a problem! I would take Young for two years and Hamilton for a year and then go from there.

          • I’ll take Prince for 6 years. I think he’d still be highly productive by the end of that contract.

        • Manny Being Manny 3 years ago

          This is the big thing for me. The potential loss in revenue over the years could be more painful than the actual price you pay for Fielder. The Orioles NEED to get this done, or hope someone else takes him away from the Nats.

          • The DC-Baltimore mutual contempt thing is strong enough to make sure there will always be people who don’t convert.  Ditto the fact that people here have memories that involve the Orioles, whereas the Nats simply haven’t been around long enough.

            So I don’t think you can say Prince makes it one way or the other.  But this could be a key time for O’s management to get things on track, no doubt about that.

        • There are no internal discussions about trading Hamilton or Young…where are you getting that?
          If they signed Fielder, all of these guys would stay together for the 2012 season.

  36. BoatsAndOs 3 years ago

    I would love Baltimore to sign Fielder, but at the same time that would mean they grossly overpaid him and sadly contributing to Boras continuing to ruin baseball

    • danumd87 3 years ago

      Boras isn’t to blame. He may be the biggest exploited of a broken system, but MLB made the system and the Yankees are responsible for the depths of it’s ruin. The New York Yankees might represent greatness to some, but they are also the source of the game’s ruin. The Yankees are the most damaging entity in the history of the sport.

      • Jack 3 years ago

        Revenue has gone from 1B to 7.5B in 20 years, so MLB isnt ruined just NFL is megabig atm

      • $3513744 3 years ago

        Say what  you want about the Yankees, but whenever they play, it’s always interesting to watch.  Unlike the crap other organizations try to pass off as a team each year, they put a good product out there year after year.

      • Mike1L 3 years ago

        That’s an opinion, and you are entitled to it.  They spend the most, but they aren’t the only team to spend. If we are going to damm the Yankees, does everyone else get off?  Because, if you were dissolve the Yankees today, there’s any number of 100 million dollar teams out there ready to take their place as top spenders.  Any number of teams, like the Marlins, who get taxpayer-subsidized stadiums, and spend big.  And any number of teams who take some of that nice revenue sharing and luxury tax and put it in their pockets.  This isn’t just sport, it’s big business, and when the Dodgers can be mismanaged into the ground in just a few years, and have the potential to sell for 3.5 times what McCourt paid for it, it tells you it’s a darn good business.  The Rangers were in bankruptcy just a couple of years ago, and now they are throwing around 100 million dollar contracts.  I’m not defending the Yankees per se, but this is the reality.

        • danumd87 3 years ago

          That’s perhaps the most simplistic answer to a grossly complicated issue I’ve ever heard. Congrats. But that is only a tiny, overly simplistic, narrow minded, and manipulative analysis. Yes, other teams would be in line to be the top spender, but they’d still be 25% behind the Yanks. There should be a salary cap and floor to solve the pocketing of revenue sharing issue. The Yankees are the team who outbid everyone on everybody for years. They developed this system by consistently scoring the big FA, whether they beat the Red Sox, Dodgers, Cubs, etc. on that given player is irrelevant. The issue remains that they drove the market to such depths b/c they could afford it due to a nearly inexhaustible revenue stream and could continue to afford it once they took FA spending to a realm most teams can’t approach. Until the early 90s, spending was somewhat self governed despite there being no cap b/c teams simply didn’t dare approach such absurd ceilings. In all sports we had home grown talent and yes, players left via FA, but it wasn’t b/c they were offered hundreds of millions, it was b/c of a reasonable and moderate salary boost and a preference on where they lived. Before FA, teams were all able to compete, but there were still dynasties – formed through developing their own talent and shrewd business strategy. Now, the Yankees can throw 30 mil at a Kei Igawa and never lose a night’s sleep over it, they can sign an ARod to the biggest contract ever and it’s only a one day new story b/c it’s so routine and expected. Meanwhile, half the teams in the league and their fans know they simply cannot compete no matter what. The Rays have the best GM in baseball. They have the best scouting department in baseball. But they
          can’t win consistently b/c they constantly lose their players and have to
          work exponentially harder to put together an inferior product. There is
          something fundamentally wrong with that, which goes against the very grain
          of sport itself. Sport is about competition – but we no longer truly have
          that. Not when the few can have whatever they want no matter what,
          frustrating the overwhelming majority and ruining the integrity of the
          sport…but hey, it’s ok b/c the business overall is growing. If you’re
          foolish enough to think it’s b/c popularity has risen, that’s on you. It’s
          b/c people are literally addicted to sport. They will pay tremendous,
          outrageous sums to attend events b/c they are addicted. It’s a
          sociological and psychological function of society that we dare not speak
          of b/c then we’d have to engage our moral compasses rather than just worry
          about the almighty dollar. The trend towards super teams (Yankees, Red
          Sox, Heat, etc) and superconferences (NCAA) is a dangerous direction and
          you can only stomp on the little guy – who represents the vast majority –
          for so long before there are consequences. I assure you that will happen
          and it’ll be interesting to see how MLB responds. Because they are going
          to have millions of frustrated, angry fans (which they already have) and in
          addition there will eventually be some ownership who is sick of turning a
          blind eye and taking a beating while being told it’s ok b/c their pockets
          are being taken care of. There are so many factors at play and so much
          broken in baseball that when it all comes to a crash the game may find
          itself in a late 90s freefall again w/o a Cal Ripken Jr., Big Mac and
          Slammin Sammy to save it from itself. Let’s not pretend the game of
          baseball didn’t already almost kill itself. And to pretend the Yankees
          weren’t an overwhelming factor would be naive. The Yankees are bad for
          baseball. They have done irreparable harm to the game and generations of
          fans and eventually there will be consequences b/c the sport won’t be able
          to flourish in the inevitable aftermath when the scales finally tip – which
          history has shown us is a certainty to happen, it’s only a matter of time.
          So be blind and say “oh, it’s a business” or whatever other Yankees
          nonsense you’ve come up with to justify the destruction of America’s Past
          Time. What people like you need to realize is that just b/c you can make
          an argument that has accurate components does not mean you’re right. Logic
          can be used to justify anything. That’s its power. And its greatest flaw.
          Unfortunately, you have legions of fans just like you who don’t recognize
          the tremendous flaws. And the sport and its fans will ultimately pay the
          price. We already are. So enjoy your opinions and attempts at
          logic…they have some merit. But when everything is boiled down, when you
          stop with excuses and justifications, you are left with the big picture and
          that is this: The Yankees ruined baseball. 27 championships. The last
          handful came at a tremendous cost: the beauty and integrity of the sport.

          • Go on…

          • Ronlacroix 3 years ago

            Yes, could you finish your point?

          • Mike1L 3 years ago

            I’m not looking to try to shake up someone’s belief  system.  It’s like watching either MSNBC
            or Fox to get your political news-it’s just which side of reality you
            feel like indulging yourself with.  I look around and I see super-giant
            teams with huge regional sports networks (BTW, the Yankees weren’t the
            first.)  I see taxpayers cutting schools, library hours, and sanitation
            so they can fund pleasure palaces for the ultra wealthy. I don’t say these are good things-I say they are reality-and to trace all evil back to the Yankees-ignores that reality.  The “talent” in baseball will not go back to the reserve clause days, year by year contracts, and 1970’s era pay.

  37. LUWahooNatFan 3 years ago

    Please don’t give Fielder more then 6 years unless they’re club options

  38. 7/170 might not be a bad deal for Fielder and the team if the contract is backloaded and there is an opt-out clause after 4 years. In this way, if Fielder has typical years for 4 years, he will opt out and the team can let him go after 4 good years without paying him much.

  39. Disgustedfan 3 years ago

    I think prince fielder is going to sign a 7y 150m contract with his contract bonus being a lifetime free pass to hometown buffet. He will take that deal even if its the mariners who offer him that.

  40. Ronlacroix 3 years ago

    Gee how surprising….no mention of anything about the M’s in the subsequent points, despite their being the only team seriously wanting to sign him….just not saying anything about it. 

  41. Here you go. He is a Ranger. They are playing it off and doing a good job of it! Prince wants to be a Ranger and it will happen. Just watch. It will happen as they clear off some salary and maneuver some players. The “not” signing of Josh is the key to this clue!!

  42. Huge mistake to sign him for more than 3 years.  Anyone signing him will have to deal with his weight issues he’ll have.  Remember his daddy and also Mo Vaughn. 

  43. UltimateYankeeFan 3 years ago

    Jasko – I’m curious we know what you think won’t get him.  What do you think it will take years and dollars?

  44. BlueJayMatt 3 years ago

    Based on what? There are only 30 employers that he can work for and most don’t have room for him in their organisation. He can say “I need 8 years and $180M” all he wants but if nobody is willing to pay it then he won’t get it. Teams are finally stopping bidding against themselves to get players who will, ultimately, sign for what the marekt says they’re worth. In Prince’s case that should be about what UltimateYankeesFan said to the Nationals.

  45. Alex 3 years ago

    I’d say the Nats would have a better lineup to surround Fielder. Brewers had Braun, sure, but Nats have Zimmerman, Morse, Werth, etc. Their pitching rotation and bullpen are better right now too.

  46. johnsilver 3 years ago

    ” and his best pitcher (In a weak pitching market) was about the worst option on the market.”

    Understatement of the winter.

  47. johnsilver 3 years ago

    I think the Fish are counting mainly (offensively) on Sanchez, Stanton and Morrison to provide run support is why they went and addressed SP, then went and got a top of the order guy in Reyes, they are also hoping Coghlan comes back and shows his rookie year stuff, rather than what he did last year when he was hurt off and on.

    The offense I don’t think is that bad and they should be able to overtake the braves.. **IF** JJ can come back, Sanchez and Nolasco hold up and Buehrle can at least give them 200fair innings.

    That team is better than many think.

  48. JacobyWanKenobi 3 years ago

    I posted the Phillies’ age stats a couple of days ago, it wasn’t pretty. The average age in the starting line-up was 33 with Howard in. I think Howard is hurt right? So if Thome starts, that number goes up. :)

    I want to take this moment to predict the Nationals signing (if he hits the market, which he should) Zack Greinke after this Season. It may be far from what actually happens, but imagine how good that rotation would look. 😀

  49. JacobyWanKenobi 3 years ago

    I posted the Phillies’ age stats a couple of days ago, it wasn’t pretty. The average age in the starting line-up was 33 with Howard in. I think Howard is hurt right? So if Thome starts, that number goes up. :)

    I want to take this moment to predict the Nationals signing (if he hits the market, which he should) Zack Greinke after this Season. It may be far from what actually happens, but imagine how good that rotation would look. 😀

  50. earlweaver 3 years ago

    wouldnt surprise if he got 8 and 180

  51. jmag043 3 years ago

    The only way it makes sense is if the deal is heavily backloaded. That way if fielder opts out after the third year the team at least got 3 years of below market salary for fielder.

  52. And you are in the negotiations with teams and the players? No.

  53. FS54 3 years ago

    exactly and I think he can still ask for a 6-7 year deal at age 30-31 so it might end up being a win-win for both parties at this point.
    Well opting out only works if he performs as well as he had past few years, which I think he is capable of.

  54. Lookouts400 3 years ago

    I haven’t heard that.  Duquette is being very coy, at the FanFest this past Saturday, he definitely left the door open for Fielder.  And if the big man does come here, the thinking is that Reynolds would be the primary DH, with Davis, Reimold, Markakis, Wieters, and even Fielder all making starts as the DH.  Showalter is on record as saying he does not want a guy who can only DH, he wants a revolving door there.  JJ Hardy, who played with Fielder in Milwaukee, says that Fielder is an above average 1B who has some range and can pick them pretty well. 

  55. They want him at 1B….Chris Davis would be the DH with Reynolds at 3B. They can all rotate in and out of DH.

  56. Lunchbox45 3 years ago

    this is a nonsensical rebuttal.

  57. Bombastic_Dave 3 years ago

    Why the hate?

  58. Runtime 3 years ago

    Hey now,
    The Blue Jays are more relevant to the average Canadian than the Red Sox are to the average American.Think about that now…

  59. Bombastic_Dave 3 years ago

    Oh, I see.  You’re just generally hateful.  Good to know it’s not personal.

  60. stl_cards16 3 years ago

    A guy talking about rooting for a wrestler calls someone lame…..interesting

  61. HobokenMetsFan 3 years ago

    I’d be very surprised if he got that. I think UYF got it right, there doesnt seem to be much of a market for him and if I was a GM that could get him for 5-6 years I would do that, no way I’d offer him 7+ (especially in the NL)

  62. lefty177 3 years ago

    yeah, the salad bar

  63. HobokenMetsFan 3 years ago

    They wont be in last place this year. Ask me how I know……

  64. $3513744 3 years ago

    What would make more sense?  A last place team doing nothing and just accepting they’ll be in last?  

  65. Manny Being Manny 3 years ago

    So essentially they should just be satisfied with last and never do anything to try to fix it? Getting a great middle of the lineup guy for the next 6-7 years is a perfect first step.

  66. lefty177 3 years ago

    Idk if he’d still get a 6-7 year deal at 30-31, I know a lot of people on here all the time are saying that he’s going to break down like Cecil did (I don’t think that way) so I don’t think a GM would take a chance for 6 years, maybe if he accepts playing DH in the later years of the contract though

  67. Lookouts400 3 years ago

    No, it just means that Showalter wants to rotate players into DH to give them a break.  Markakis and Wieters are plus defenders at their positions, both won the Gold Glove(yeah, I know, that doesn’t mean squat, but still…), Reimold has the potential to be a top fielding LF, Davis isn’t a bad 3B, and Fielder can field his position.  Reynolds is intent on proving himself a much better defender at 3B than he showed last year, he’s lost 20 pounds in an effort to be more mobile, and he doesn’t want to DH full-time.  So Showalter has some flexibility with his roster, he doesn’t want to limit himself by having a DH-only player in the lineup every day.  Tried that with Vlad last year, didn’t work.

  68. Encarnacion's Parrot 3 years ago

    Orioles? Success?

  69. Casor_Greener 3 years ago

    He hasn’t shown his rookie stuff since his rookie year….

  70. Natsfan89 3 years ago

    They want him to cut down on his errors and prove he’s healthy. 2 of the last 4 years he played just over 100 games. If he gets back to his ’09/’10 form this year he’ll get an extension.

  71. Red_Line_9 3 years ago

    I can speak personally about the Expos situation..and what happened to that organization after the strike was a travesty.  The Expos had a first class player development department.  They had some excellent teams.

  72. Encarnacion's Parrot 3 years ago

    I just did. There’s only one Canadian team, compared to 28 others watering down the States.

    This coming from a Jays fan.

  73. teenagetruck 3 years ago

    The O’s wouldn’t sign him to DH. He’d be the primary 1b. The DH spot will rotate during the season. Reynolds, Davis, Wieters, Reimold, (and Fielder?) would all see time at DH.

  74. Jack 3 years ago

    I think it would be smart for him to DH 15-20 games a year, very well could extend his career.

  75. teenagetruck 3 years ago

    They wouldn’t sign him just to DH. He’d be the primary first baseman, sharing some DH time with Reynolds, Chris Davis, Wieters, and Reimold.

  76. FS54 3 years ago

    I think at that point some more AL teams would be interested. Yanks or Sox might have an opening (A Rod and Ortiz might be done by that time). He will also have a longer career if he makes a switch to DH at that point or 2-3 years later. Not sure Cecil is a good reference to PF.

  77. Paul Shailor 3 years ago

    The Orioles are one of those franchises that has no shot of winning it for at least the next 2 years. I am sorry but there is no way fielder goes to them to be in the cellar.

  78. If the money’s right…

  79. jhfdssdaf 3 years ago

    For certain players, winning matters.  For Fielder, I think the only thing that matters is contract size.  If the Orioles are the top bidder, he’s headed to Baltimore.

  80. “The Orioles are one of those franchises that has no shot of winning it for at least the next 2 years.”
    I love presumptuous statements like this from basement GMs. I bet you said the same thing last year about the Cards and the year before about the Giants. 

  81. Told you my source is an intern with Bmore

  82. flickadave 3 years ago

    Exactly. It’s called the Devil Ray System. Suck until you stockpile enough high draft choice talent in the farm system that you can field a good team without having to break the bank signing overpriced free agents. 

    If you aren’t good enough to compete for a playoff spot there is definite incentive to come in last.

  83. RangersFan1990 3 years ago

    Yes with the CBA you can draft players that would previously prolly had high bonus demands. You stockpile those picks, and wait for them to develop. See: Rays, Braves, Rangers, Royals.

  84. Rabbitov 3 years ago

    Funny how since the Yankees and Red Sox aren’t in on him it suddenly isn’t a market. 

  85. Jack 3 years ago

    I see Weiters DHing 30-35 games, Reynolds 20-25 games, Roberts if he comes back 30-35 games, jai miller 30-35 games, Fielder 15-20 games, Jones and Markakis(Especially in April) 10-15 games each, and Davis the remainer. I know these figures arent exact, but I think its a positive to rotate in players to DH give the body a little rest during a long season, Fielder is very durable so disregard his body shape for now. 5 years 125.01M would be my contract for him with a couple option years.

  86. Rabbitov 3 years ago

    I guess if you disregard the history of baseball this is true . . .

  87. flickadave 3 years ago

    I totally disagree. Getting a great middle of the lineup guy might get the O’s within striking distance of 4th place in the AL East. Meanwhile, it would suck money out of their coffers that could be used to improve their scouting and player development. In addition to wasting money that could be better used elsewhere, they would only worsen their draft spot. Sounds like money well spent!

  88. RangersFan1990 3 years ago

    No!  No! No! It’s a perfect last step.

    The Orioles signing Fielder would feel very similar to the Rangers signing AROD in 2001.

  89. UltimateYankeeFan 3 years ago

    I don’t know I don’t find it so funny.

  90. HobokenMetsFan 3 years ago

    I don’t either, it has nothing to do with the Yanks or Sox. None of the “big market teams” seem to have interest. (seem is the key word here). Yanks & Sox are set, Mets are broke, LAA/LAD are either set or bankrupt, outside of the Rangers, Chicago, or Nationals, who else has a need or the ability to spend the money?

    Maybe the Marlins really go crazy?

  91. HobokenMetsFan 3 years ago

    I don’t either, it has nothing to do with the Yanks or Sox. None of the “big market teams” seem to have interest. (seem is the key word here). Yanks & Sox are set, Mets are broke, LAA/LAD are either set or bankrupt, outside of the Rangers, Chicago, or Nationals, who else has a need or the ability to spend the money?

    Maybe the Marlins really go crazy?

  92. Rabbitov 3 years ago

    The Nationals and Rangers have a record of going crazy. Of course the Rangers are under new management.  Also the Os purported (and I take this with a grain of salt) offer to Teixeira was in the mid to high 100 millions.  These teams have money to spend.

    Of course I am being at least partially fascicious (and playing devil’s advocate) and do realize what you all mean by a lack of a market. 

  93. marinersfan44 3 years ago

    it seems people are ruling out the M’s. there was a rumor that they were going to offer 150/6years. plus with him being a lefty he would fit good in seattle and with them acquiring montero if they get fielder, they could be a threat
     

  94. $3513744 3 years ago

    You also have to draw in fans.  Continuing to put garbage on the field year after year isn’t going to help with that.  No one’s breaking the bank.  They pay what they want to based on what they think they can afford. Signing a caliber hitter isn’t a bad decision if they can make it work.  

  95. RangersFan1990 3 years ago

    The Rangers “went crazy” ten years ago with AROD but I don’t see them doing that here. Jon Daniels is among the top GMs in the game and won’t do anything that would sacrifice the long term flexibility of the team.

    But if Fielder wanted to work out a more team friendly deal, maybe Texas is in business. 

    I honestly believe the biggest hold-up in all of this is Fielder’s decision to take the Nationals money, or take less money to play for one of the top 5 clubs in the game. Fielder knows he could potentially propel the Rangers into the “best team in baseball argument”.

  96. Encarnacion's Parrot 3 years ago

    Shame we’re referring to their immediate future. Welcome to the party though!

  97. RangersFan1990 3 years ago

    They can’t make it work. They would be better off signing Soler and Cepedes.

  98. flickadave 3 years ago

    It won’t matter if they come in last in the division by 2 games or last by 20 games. Not many people are going to be drawn to Camden in the hopes that the O’s will win the “We might not come in last this year” race

  99. 12in12 3 years ago

    Can you hit a baseball 500+ feet? Walk 100+ times? Lead the league in RBI’s? (And no, this is not a debate on what stats are worth talking about and which aren’t.) If you answered yes to all or any of these, then you were mistaken. Go tryout!

  100. Jack 3 years ago

    Thing is he could run laps around you. Babe Ruth never cut an impressive figure either.

  101. jhfdssdaf 3 years ago

    Pirates, Padres, Athletics

  102. Tyler Jedrzejak 3 years ago

    i would love tht 

  103. Tyler Jedrzejak 3 years ago

    Thome isnt starting i think wiggy is

  104. Rabbitov 3 years ago

    … if you say so 

  105. Jack 3 years ago

    He wants per year what Howard/Pojols got. If he was offered 6/150.01 I think he would take it. He wants 25Mil

  106. Jack 3 years ago

    It would sell tickets, that gets back the money you spent, plus there is money freed up from not signing Vlad and Scott.

  107. Dylan 3 years ago

    Worth is decent in center and if Andre Ethier is a gold glover, Morse can be too.

  108. When did Prince Fielder ever hit 50 homers in a season?

  109. toddcoffeytime 3 years ago

    Yeah, the Brewers definitely didn’t get any production offensively from Rickie Weeks, Corey Hart, Nyjer Morgan, etc. last year, right?

    I would also tend to say that the Brewers rotation and bullpen match up pretty equally with the Nats, all homerism aside.

  110. toddcoffeytime 3 years ago

    I agree with JJ Hardy, defensive metrics are not kind to Prince at first, but he really does do an excellent job of picking poor throws to first.

  111. toddcoffeytime 3 years ago

    Brewers

  112. EdinsonPickle 3 years ago

    I almost walked once in high school.

  113. Werth

  114. Natsfan89 3 years ago

    2007

  115. Do you think they’d let an intern sit in on negotiations? I don’t.

  116. Dylan 3 years ago

    IPhone spell check.

  117. sourbob 3 years ago

    Slow your roll on the “should be banned” there, sport. Just because somebody makes a lame comment that expresses a distaste for a player you like, that doesn’t mean he’s some unholy menace who needs kicking off the board.

    Sheesh.

  118. lefty177 3 years ago

    I know he’s not a good reference but every tv show that talks about Prince brings up his dad & how he broke down so soon, I don’t think Prince will break down until when normal players do (late 30s)

  119. LOL. No it couldnt. Although I’d love to see the Angels fielding percentage with that defensive alignment…

  120. $3513744 3 years ago

    Yeah, sign a guy to $250 mil and move him to a position he can’t play.  Then pay oodles more for a guy to replace him who is significantly worse at 1B.  Makes perfect sense.

  121. Eugene_in_Oregon 3 years ago

    Go back to last year’s videotapes and watch Pujols playing third for a couple of games against the Nationals.  Not a pretty sight.

  122. TXHC 3 years ago

    What he asks for and what he gets are two different things.  You get paid whatever the market dictates.  And right now it doesn’t look like the market is that strong.  His best bet would be to sign a short term deal for high AAV in someplace like, I don’t know, Arlington where he can absolutely rake and then revisit FA in a couple of years and see if the market has improved any.

  123. Gotcha, I love trying to type sentences on my phone…it’s like a box of chocolates…you know.

  124. One time in practice I got the bat on the ball, it was great.

  125. toprock 3 years ago

    amen brother

  126. Or you could root for your team to win.

  127. EdinsonPickle 3 years ago

    I reached base on an error once in an actual game! Ground ball to the shortstop; ate him up. Beat that!

  128. Aaaaaaaand it looks like I just got trolled, Heyman didn’t even say that.

  129. My bat on ball was in t-ball.

  130. harmony55 3 years ago

    Nine years at $214 million will suffice.

  131. TXHC 3 years ago

    Unbelievable.  If I was a baseball player there’s no way I’d hire anybody other than Scott Boras.

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