Quick Hits: Yankees, Span, Giants, Cardinals, Mets

Some links from around the league as Saturday turns into Sunday…

  • With Brett Gardner out for the year, Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com says the Yankees have called the Phillies about Shane Victorino, the Diamondbacks about Justin Upton, and the Twins about Denard Span. "The Twins are asking for a ton (for Span)," he hears.
  • The Giants are in the market for bullpen help according to Danny Knobler of CBSSports.com (Twitter link). He says Jonathan Broxton of the Royals could be a possible fit.
  • Cardinals GM John Mozeliak said his team has both short and long-term payroll flexibility and will likely seek bullpen help at the deadline according to the AP (via ESPN). He indicated that he is open to trading within the division as long as a top prospect isn't involved.
  • Mets GM Sandy Alderson told reporters (including Conor Orr of The Star-Ledger) that the presumption is his team will be buyer before the deadline (Twitter link). The next 7-10 days will dictate their moves, however.


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65 Comments on "Quick Hits: Yankees, Span, Giants, Cardinals, Mets"


3 years 1 month ago

I wonder what it would take for the Reds to acquire Span if the Twins are asking a ton?

3 years 1 month ago

Good, young pitching, and a lot of it. The closer to MLB, the better.

TophersReds
3 years 1 month ago

Span is worth is considerable amount, but his career stats don’t call for a huge package (referring to “and a lot of it”). He is probably worth 1 top 5-7 prospect and a couple of B prospects in my opinion.

sdsuphilip
3 years 1 month ago

He is worth considerably more than that considering his elite defense

StanleyPujols
3 years 1 month ago

that’s what teams would offer, no team would go above that. If the Twins are asking for more than that, he’s going to be a twin for a long time

VDrules
3 years 1 month ago

And that is fine…. I think i would talk for all twins fans when i say we would want him around for along time, but if we get a really good deal for him that would be fine too.

LazerTown
3 years 1 month ago

But he is only an average offensive player. I don’t think that teams will put together a huge package for a simply average offensive player. They may get an ok package, but dont expect any prospects in a teams top 3-4.

StanleyPujols
3 years 1 month ago

exactly

sdsuphilip
3 years 1 month ago

Average offensive players and elite defenders at premium positions fetch a lot.

$1529282
3 years 1 month ago

Span’s averaged 4.4 wins per 162 games this season. Why shouldn’t the Twins ask for a lot? He’s a strong defender at a premium position who gets on base, rarely strikes out, walks at an above-average rate, and is on an incredibly team-friendly contract.

ian
3 years 1 month ago

Span’s on pace for about a 4.5-5 WAR season, after putting up 2.5 WAR in 70 games last season. He’s got an incredibly team friendly contract. The Twins should ask for a ton.

LazerTown
3 years 1 month ago

I am really not a span fan. I think he has gotten overrated as of late. He is not particularly good of a baserunner, nor is he that great of a hitter. He is nowhere near the top 10 best offensive cfers. He is good on defense, but there is only so far that will take you, and teams are less likely to pay for it. The yankees surely wouldn’t pay that price, because they would only be using him in lf. He is a solid player no doubt, but I don’t think that he is going to bring that big of a haul.

Dean Lambrecht
3 years 1 month ago

Have you looked at his actual numbers? They completely contradict your premise.

LazerTown
3 years 1 month ago

Have You? He is 15th in ops, and 10th in obp. His first 2 years he was pretty good offensively, but 2010 his obp hit .331, and 2011 it was .328. This year it’s back up to .342. That would be fine, but he really has never shown much power. Then his stolen base % is only around 75% and he doesn’t even run very often.. Sorry but for the yankees, he would be nothing more than a #8 hitter.

frozeninbemidji
3 years 1 month ago

It’s going to be a seller’s market and Terry Ryan (unlike Bill Smith) knows exactly how to play the game.

DerekJeterDan
3 years 1 month ago

The Oakland A’s are such an impressive organization. Year in and year out, Billy Beane knows how to bring young pitching in that knows how to pitch. It’s unbelievable really. They are out performing the Yankees in every conceivable aspect. This west coast road trip has been a night mare so far and it’s all because of their young pitching. The A’s are a real big threat moving forward. Great mixture of veterans and youngsters. They are not a team to take lightly and I feel like people are not paying enough attention to them. Recognize.

RepOak
3 years 1 month ago

Coming from a Yankee fan, much respect!

Bye Bye Baby Bonanza
3 years 1 month ago

“…people are not paying enough attention to them.”

You are correct. But so it goes for all West coast teams.

MB923
3 years 1 month ago

Not all West coast teams. I’d have to say the Angels and Trout get a lot of attention.

LazerTown
3 years 1 month ago

While he lost, i really liked what hughes showed in the game. He only allowed 2 runs in 7.2 innings. It really is a benefit for the yankees to see that their #5 has been solid as of late, so they have less to worry about.

OaklandFan22
3 years 1 month ago

Ya, much respect man! Your right about Billy, he knows how to find good young pitching.

Andy_B
3 years 1 month ago

I’m sorry I don’t think the A’s or Billy Beane is anything impressive. He’s was an innovator ten years ago, but now everyone has caught up to him. He’s made some good trades like Mulder for Haren, but he’s made some real duds too like Cargo for Holliday, and Holliday for Wallace

OaklandFan22
3 years 1 month ago

I agree with you on that, hes made some pretty dum moves that have hurt the organization as well

NickinIthaca
3 years 1 month ago

Yet the man still holds a job. He works with much less than most GM’s, and has at least continually been able to turn out top quality arms from the system. I would never say that Billy Beane is the answer anywhere (just as much as I don’t think Theo and Co. will turn everything around in Chicago immediately), but the A’s still have a well run organization that will hopefully pay off sooner than later.

Brad Rollin
3 years 1 month ago

Give the guy a bit of slack. He basically can’t give a veteran a long-term contract, given their horrendous revenue. He has to trade his best players for inexpensive prospects who are, of course, a major gamble and can take several years to pan out (if at all). My biggest disappointment recently has been the A’s drafts (or perhaps their development efforts), as they’re not moving their top draft picks through the system. But the budget severely impacts their draft strategy, too, as they can’t go much over slot to pay the huge bonuses that other teams can.

Andy_B
3 years 1 month ago

I’m not saying he’s a bad GM, he’s done well with what he has but I don’t think he’s the smartest guy in the room either. The As have been mediocre for quite a while now. And while you can use their lack of revenue as an excuse the reason Beane was supposed to be so smart was that he can win with less. I think that title goes to Andrew Friedman now.

therealprof
3 years 1 month ago

I was shocked to see Beane go all in on Cepedes, but he looks like the smart guy with him batting over .300 and on track for 25-30 home runs. I am not ready to tell anyone that they will be a contender anytime soon, but if the move to San Jose actually happens they might be in a good position with an invigorated fan base….

NickinIthaca
3 years 1 month ago

It was a very strange move, but at least it will provide the hometown fans with someone interesting to watch, especially since there is no direct need to trade him away until the end of his contract. It didn’t break the bank, but at least gave the Oak-town crowd something to root for…

NYPOTENCE
3 years 1 month ago

Yeah they’ve been owning the Yankees this weekend…even if all the games have been 1-run games it shows that the Athletics have high enough capabilities to take down some of the elite.

melonis_rex
3 years 1 month ago

much respect for ya, sir. :)

LowcountryJoe
3 years 1 month ago

I’m surprised the Yankees aren’t checking-in on Crisp.

55saveslives
3 years 1 month ago

KC’s GM will never take Sabean’s call :(

3 years 1 month ago

Span for Z. Lee, Eovaldi and one high upside infielder? Dodgers need a leadoff hitter.

Dodgersarelife
3 years 1 month ago

Im sorry, if the dodgers are not giving lee up for Span.

Sky14
3 years 1 month ago

Lee seems to be a bit overrated as a prospect. Even if he is young for his level, his numbers this year are very bad.

Dodgersarelife
3 years 1 month ago

Stats mean nothing in the low minors. Even if he is overrated, he is so amongst the league and would net a bigger “fish” than Span.

sf55forlife
3 years 1 month ago

i wouldnt say nothing. but there are certainly other factors like age relative to league, scouting reports, environment, etc.

sf55forlife
3 years 1 month ago

age relative to league is ridiculously important. his stats were fine in high A, a hitters like btw. scouts all like him, seems like a B prospect at least, a B+ in my book fwiw.

Dodgersarelife
3 years 1 month ago

+1, this is what people need to realize, if anything his age is the advantage with his struggles. He already succeeded in a hitters league and will transition nicely into AA next year once he settles down.

Sky14
3 years 1 month ago

His stats were mediocre (except K/BB) in high A and he has been getting destroyed in AA.
I said he was overrated as a prospect not terrible. He is not an untouchable type prospect like some make him out to be.

mistgl
3 years 1 month ago

Calling it now, Lee is going to pull a Weeden. Toil in the minors till he’s 22-23, and then go back to college to play football.

3 years 1 month ago

i dont know why i said lee, but something around eovaldi, he can be what the twins lack and that a power pitcher, i see him as a 2 or 3, better than bills. i probably meant eovaldi, reed and a high upside infielder.

Dodgersarelife
3 years 1 month ago

Eovaldi is worth it for span. He will be good with maturation of his secondary stuff.

BK
3 years 1 month ago

Buorjos for Banuelos and Sanchez

3 years 1 month ago

put Trout in there and we have a deal 😉

captainjeter
3 years 1 month ago

It would be hard to part with Sanchez for anyone. He is Romine and Montero combined.We really need him. But, if we could get Trout or Trumbo for this deal, the Yanks would have to pull the trigger,

MB923
3 years 1 month ago

No way they would be getting Trout

johnsilver
3 years 1 month ago

The name missing is Emilio Bonifacio.. not a defensive player, as is Gardner, but every bit the base stealer and better slap hitter than Gardner.

If the Fish are going to go into sell mode? Bonifacio still has 2 full seasons of control left and is only making 2.2m this year.. A paltry sum indeed. Was leading all of MLB in SB before his trip to the DL a cpl months back and has taken right off his SB run since returning.. 25-2 rate.

3 years 1 month ago

Your joking about Trout , right? The only way the Yanks would get Trout would be if they agreed to give LA all their TV revenue for the next five years. Trout is the best player in Baseball now and I’m not an Angel fan.

johnsilver
3 years 1 month ago

Delusional thoughts. A few NYY fans (not many) always think they can get anything by divine right, only because they are fans of the NYY and it is a form of entitlement.

captainjeter
3 years 1 month ago

forget that. No deal unless it is for Trumbo or Trout.

California_RedBirds
3 years 1 month ago

The yankees would have to trade their whole farm system if they want Trout. And for Trumbo way more than Banuelos or Battences

Rbraz
3 years 1 month ago

Corcino, Cozart and Stephenson for Span

ROR1997
3 years 1 month ago

Melky Mesa, David Phelps, and Corban Joseph for span. I think that is a fair deal

3 years 1 month ago

Victorino, Span, Upton(??)

One of these names is not like the others.

NickinIthaca
3 years 1 month ago

Ageism is against the law…. there is no reason to single out Victorino like that.

dylanp5030
3 years 1 month ago

I’m hoping Phillies would ask for Ramon Flores for Victorino. He’s kind of under the radar, but has great numbers in A Ball as a 20 year old. I could see him in AA by the end of the year and up in the majors in September of next year or def. in 2014.

3 years 1 month ago

D-Backs are said to want help this year for Upton. How would D-Backs fans feel about a trade with the Braves centered around Hanson, Uggla for Upton, Bloomquist? D-Backs could move Hill to 3b, Uggla steps in at 2b and has a field day in your home park. Hanson grew up on the West Coast, and could replace Bauer in your rotation.

Marcy
3 years 1 month ago

How is Span’s arm? Why is no one interested in Gerardo Parra who is very unhappy in AZ, has a gold glove, gets on base, steals bases, great arm, and is a rental meaning not giving up too much. Having said that – Cashman – like he did w/Granderson could do 1 of those multi-team deals to make everyone happy but that seems more off-season than TD. He needs to know if Granderson is staying I guess before he makes the BIG move.

3 years 1 month ago

People expect too much for their players nowadays. Top prospects are only dealt for top hitters/pitchers.

ian
3 years 1 month ago

Guess it might depend on your view of top prospects. This was taken from a different blog but: Here’s a list of
prospects traded since after the 2009 season (BA ranking in
parenthesis). Zach Wheeler
(35) for 3 months of Carlos Beltran. Brad Peacock (36), Derek Norris
(72), AJ Cole (57) + Tommy Milone for Gio Gonzalez. Yonder Alonso (33),
Yasmani Grandal (53) + 2 more including Edison Valquez for Mat Latos.
Wilson Ramos (96) for Matt Capps. Jarred Cosart (50), Jonathan
Singleton (34) + Josh Zeid for Hunter Pence. Brett Lawrie (40) for
Shaun Marcum. Jake Ordorizzi (68), Alcides Escobar (12), + two more
(including BA #100 the year before) for Zach
Greinke. Casey Kelly (31), Anthony Rizzo (75) + two more for Adrian
Gonzalez. Jesus Montere (6) for Michael Pineda. Kyle Drabek (25),
Travis D’Arnaud (81) and Michael Taylor (29) for Roy Halladay. (Taylor
was immediately traded for Brett Wallace (27)). Drew Pomeranz (30),
Alex White (47) + two more for Ubaldo Jiminez. And that’s also not
counting some of the other deals for guys like Rasmus or the big
Granderson trade that included Kennedy, Jackson, Schertzer (sp) or the Dan Haren/Skraggs deal etc.

bigpat
3 years 1 month ago

I don’t get it either. Neither of those two are difference makers in my opinion. They are good players but shouldn’t demand top prospects. Minnesota doesn’t have to trade Span but Philly has every reason to trade Victorino.

dylanp5030
3 years 1 month ago

It all depends on what your definition of top prospects are. If you mean a top 50 prospect or a top 100 prospects, or if you mean a top 5 prospect in the organization. They are completely different. For instance, the Phillies only have 1 (maybe 2) top 100 prospects. So to deal their number 3 prospect, wouldn’t be that great of a return. While, the Mariners to deal their number 3 prospect would be.
I think the prospects that are hardest to deal away are the ones in AA ready for the Bigs (Castallenos, Olt, Myers, Gose, Hamilton, etc.) The ones in A are usually still projections and are easier dealt away.

Sky14
3 years 1 month ago

Obviously better players will get better prospects.
I think the real reason you even wrote this comment was to mention Matt Holliday and star power in the same sentence.

Sky14
3 years 1 month ago

I agree most of the trade proposals are ridiculous, but it goes both ways in either overvaluing the prospects or the player. My guess is most fans dont know other teams prospects outside the highly regarded ones so that is every proposal on this site will include them.