Josh Hamilton’s Asking Price Is Seven Years, $175MM

Josh Hamilton, ranked second on MLBTR's Top 50 Free Agent List, is said to be looking for a seven-year contract worth $175MM, tweets John Perrotto of Baseball Prospectus (h/t the Dallas Morning News).

While the asking price doesn't match the length Albert Pujols received from the Angels last offseason, it would put Hamilton, represented by Moye Sports Associates, on par in terms of average annual salary at $25MM. Hamilton is widely regarded as the best free agent position player available, but he may have trouble finding a club with the financial flexibility to sign him. It hasn't, however, stopped reports of teams like the Braves and the Brewers being intrigued by the possibility of signing the five-time All-Star.

Hamilton said last month he will give the Rangers an oppportunity to match any offer he receives. The Rangers reportedly aren't prepared to offer Hamilton a long-term deal, but did extend him a qualifying offer worth $13.3MM. He has until next Friday to either accept or decline the tender. If Hamilton declines, any team signing him will also have to factor in the cost of losing a top draft choice.

MLBTR asked its readers last month whether Hamilton will remain with the Rangers and more than 73% of you believe he will play elswhere in 2013. 


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173 Comments on "Josh Hamilton’s Asking Price Is Seven Years, $175MM"


55saveslives
2 years 9 months ago

Good Luck with that :)

JacksTigers
2 years 9 months ago

He’ll get 5/110

unvme7
2 years 9 months ago

Or possibly a 4 yr. I think it will also come down to personal preference for him, especially since he likes TX, his family and church are in TX, and he feels pretty comfortable in TX overall. If someone offers him 5 yrs and the Rangers offer 4, I wouldnt be surprised if he takes the 4 yrs.

JacksTigers
2 years 9 months ago

I’d be extremely surprised. That relationship seems strained.

unvme7
2 years 9 months ago

Maybe. I still think its 50/50 he’ll return to the Rangers. Agree though, not sure how much they want of him right now. Probably be better off concentrating on pitching and putting Martin or Gentry in center and pick up Hunter. Hunter being from around the DFW wouldnt be a bad alternative. He would at least come without the circus..

fighterflea
2 years 9 months ago

It’s going to take 2 teams to bid the offers anywhere close to what he reportedly is asking for. Would the Angels and Rangers be those teams? What if Greinke signs in Texas? Does that motivate Arte Moreno to go wild on Hamilton? Does Hamilton do any endorsements? Is there any reason to think he would be a draw with the Dodgers if they moved contracts to acquire him? And shouldn’t the Dodgers be spending on starting pitching instead?

Which team is the most helped by adding a bat like Hamilton’s? I just think it will end up being an AL team that envisions using him as a DH towards the end of his contract, particularly if it’s more than 5 years.

2 years 9 months ago

Hahahahahahahahah!

txftw
2 years 9 months ago

Hopefully this will kill the Brewers rumors

2 years 9 months ago

Rofl; if you really think he is going to get that contract…

txftw
2 years 9 months ago

I didn’t say anything about him getting it, but I doubt the Brewers can even negotiate with that as his starting point

2 years 9 months ago

Ok, I’ll spell it all out for ya…

Either someone hands him the 6-7 yr/150-175 mil deal and it stops there, or nobody will offer him that contract and his price will drop. At that point, the Brewers would probably be interested and jump into the bidding for Hamilton and offer him the 5 yr / 100 million deal that they offered everyone else, while Hamilton also gets the bonus of his good friends, the Narrons, as coaches and one of the best home run hitting parks, etc.

It will take one stupid team to offer him the 7 yr/ $175, but if sanity prevails, his price should drop to the range where the Brewers could enter the fray.

txftw
2 years 9 months ago

Sorry you spelled it wrong, the Rangers either match a deal like that or someone else outbids it. Hamilton will not be on the Brewers next season

2 years 9 months ago

I never said he’d sign with the Brewers. I’ve only ever stated that the Brewers will end up talking to Hamilton, because his lofty demands will not be met. What the Rangers do is irrelevant, since they are only going to match whatever deal is brought to them. Therefore, unless some team is stupid enough to go 6-7/150-175, the Brewers rumors will come to fruition when they talk to him about a 5/100-115 deal that would put him in a comfortable, Milwaukee atmosphere. I never spelled it wrong; you just didn’t read it correctly.

Guest
2 years 9 months ago

the Brewers could not resign Fielder then they are clearly out of Hamilton talks

2 years 9 months ago

I’m asking for that too. Doesn’t mean I’ll get it.

JaysGLawrie
2 years 9 months ago

Difference is he is an All Star baseball player who hit 43/128 this year. By your logic, no player ever could ever get 7/175.

Jimcass134
2 years 9 months ago

He’s also 32 and gets hurt every single year.

JaysGLawrie
2 years 9 months ago

He is not 32 yet and he has played 121, 133, and most recently 148 games the past three years.

2 years 9 months ago

121 and 133 games played aren’t good totals.

Jimcass134
2 years 9 months ago

If my team is going to give out a mega deal like 7/175 I would want him out there 155+. Missing 14 games due to just injuries, not counting the slumps he goes through is quite a lot of games he is not producing.

NomarGarciaparra
2 years 9 months ago

You realize those aren’t very high game totals, right?

JaysGLawrie
2 years 9 months ago

148 is high. and the other two are around 80% of a season. Just so it’s clear I’ve already said that I wouldn’t give him 175 either.

NomarGarciaparra
2 years 9 months ago

Yes, 148 is acceptable. 121 and 133…no. That’s missing a significant amount of time.

burnboll
2 years 9 months ago

Are you really Nomar Garciaparra, or if you’re not, why are you using his name as a handle here? What do you think he thinks about that?

alan104
2 years 9 months ago

Just to put this in perspective. If he were to average 148 games for the 7 years his average AB would gross him $42, 229.72. That’s just crazy insane for a ball player to be earning that.

burnboll
2 years 9 months ago

Look at Hamilton’s stats. His strikeout rate has gone through the roof, it’s worse than in his previously worst season.

Guest
2 years 9 months ago

this guy might be a doctor or a teacher, or rocket scientist. All jobs more deserving of 175 million than a sports player

Jordan H.
2 years 9 months ago

Good luck with that! Only a crazed AL team’s GM would make that offer.

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start_wearing_purple
2 years 9 months ago

Pass.

JacksTigers
2 years 9 months ago

People don’t get it. It’s a negotiation. This is the absolute most he’s asking for.

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start_wearing_purple
2 years 9 months ago

Even as a starting position it seems high.

JacksTigers
2 years 9 months ago

Not really. It’s about what I expected. It doesn’t mean he’ll get it. Just means he want to start there.

$6592481
2 years 9 months ago

wouldn’t you want to start high?

unvme7
2 years 9 months ago

Thank you for the most intelligent response thus far. He can ask for whatever he wants, doesnt mean he’ll get it. He probably already knows this, thus the high number of years in hopes someone counters with a 5-6 yrs, or maybe someone that is desperate will go 7. It actually wouldnt surprise me if one team did..

55saveslives
2 years 9 months ago

Everyone knows that. Get a sense of humor!

JacksTigers
2 years 9 months ago

I’m not so sure everyone knows that. A couple actually seem angry.

Murderers' Row Boat
2 years 9 months ago

Sarcasm on the internet? Like that will ever happen.

burnboll
2 years 9 months ago

I get weird flashbacks of the Ryan Howard – Ruben Minaya Jr “negotiation”.

Rumor has it Rube’s told Ryan he was gonna give him whatever he wanted, if he re-signed.

Guest
2 years 9 months ago

“I’m going to need a SWAT team ready to
mobilize, street level maps covering all of Florida, a pot of coffee,
12 Jammy Dodgers and a fez.” – all he got was the maps

Guest
2 years 9 months ago

Who does he think his agent is? Scott Boras?

JaysGLawrie
2 years 9 months ago

Scott Boras doesn’t have rights to hard negotiating.

GasLampGuru
2 years 9 months ago

I’d be shocked if he even got five years. Given his history, tying yourself to a guy like him for seven years is quite the risk. The average annual dollars probably aren’t all that far off. I’m thinking 4 years, $100M or 5 years, $125M at most.

john12121212
2 years 9 months ago

Too long, too much. :)

Z....
2 years 9 months ago

I think I’d be willing to give him 5 years/$120-125 million. not if I’m the Braves or Brewers, but some team doing that wouldnt surprise me. Thats the most I would give him though. I still think the Braves should explore Ryan Ludwick as cheaper option for 2-3 years in left field

Murderers' Row Boat
2 years 9 months ago

In other news. Moye Sports Associates has now replaced Scott Boras as the leader in crazy contract demands.

JaysGLawrie
2 years 9 months ago

I think someone will give him 7/150. I’d welcome it to the jays
Edit: and people blow the injury and drug thing way out of proportion

jaysfan1994
2 years 9 months ago

Jays should offer 120/4. Offer more annually for a shorter period of time, it’d be the only way Hamilton would think about coming to TO. Paul Beeston would need to talk it through with Rogers though.

2 years 9 months ago

cut of 20/15 mil of that and Texas may match, their problem is the length.

randomkeys
2 years 9 months ago

People who haven’t experienced close friends or family members who struggle with substance abuse are usually (USUALLY) the ones who suggest it’s not a big deal.

Josh Hamilton is a public figure who has repeatedly dealt with substance abuse — which makes it (for him) both easier and harder. Easier, in that there’s greater accountability for his choices, simply by virtue of being the press. Harder in that fame and money can (and often do) lead to various levels of recklessness, including drugs and alcohol.

Any team choosing to sign Josh Hamilton ought not be so short-sighted as to think that his issues have been blown out of proportion. They are serious issues, and deserve serious attention.

randomkeys
2 years 9 months ago

Also, all that said — he’s only been injury-free for a whole season once in his career, and he’s on the wrong side of 30. A seven year contract has trouble written all over it, drug issues notwithstanding.

JaysGLawrie
2 years 9 months ago

he has played 133, 121, and 148 games the past three years and that 148 was the most recent. He still plays the majority of the season regularly

not_brooks
2 years 9 months ago

Sure, but injury issues tend to get worse with age, not better.

For Hamilton to complete a five year contract without missing a considerable amount of time would be a long shot. Seven years? Yikes…

JaysGLawrie
2 years 9 months ago

I’m not saying you are wrong but that is pretty much the case with every player. and considering he took a big jump this season, i don’t consider it a BIG issue. Of course I’m concerned about injuries and thats why 175 isn’t good for me. But it’s not as big an issue as people make it out to be.

not_brooks
2 years 9 months ago

Wait…

So injuries issues get worse with age and they’re an issue for every player, but you don’t consider them a big issue for a guy who wrecked his body for years with drugs and alcohol?

I’m confused.

Also, what big jump did Hamilton take this season? Sure, he hit a lot of home runs, but his numbers took a nosedive in the second half and he was basically an absentee for the AL West deciding three game series in Oakland, as well as the Wild Card game against the Orioles.

JaysGLawrie
2 years 9 months ago

This comment actually makes me feel like I’ve wasted my time here. If I have to answer what jump, then I might as well be explaining this to my dog.

randomkeys
2 years 9 months ago

One has to assume you mean the jump from 121 games to 148 games. And you can compare this message board to your dog if you like, but you’re promoting ideas that aren’t really all that supported (one, that Josh Hamilton is worth 7/150 or more; two, that substance abuse isn’t a big deal; and three, that the Blue Jays would actually spend 7/150 on a 32-year old center fielder with an inconsistent history).

Clearly you like the Blue Jays, and clearly Josh Hamilton is a talented free agent. But he’s injury prone with or without a substance abuse problem, and he’s not getting any younger.

Your Blue Jays don’t have a budget that can handle 7/150 (as you proposed) if they hope to have anything else on their roster beyond journeymen and AAAA players. If I were running the Jays, I would stay away from big ticket free agents, and follow something more like the Rays business model. (Of course, I wouldn’t have traded my manager away like he was a second round draft pick either, but that’s another issue.)

JaysGLawrie
2 years 9 months ago

I know the Jays wouldn’t actually do it, it’s more of a fantasy. And I’ll say this one more time: It’s not that drugs are not a big issue, it’s that it hasn’t effected his play.

DerangedAngry Hilbilly
2 years 9 months ago

His performance didn’t take a jump. He’s 28th in WAR among batters since 2007. of his 4 seasons where he played at least 120 games his WAR has been :4.1,8.4,4.1 and 4.4 . Unless you are calling moving from a 4.1 to a 4.4 a “jump”. He’s a good player, but he’s not nearly as elite as some people think he is (though a permanent move to LF will help his total value a good bit)

melonis_rex
2 years 9 months ago

His K rate went from 17.3% (which is good for a power hitter) to 25+%, and hes a significantly more indiscriminate hitter.

That’s fine now, but as he ages and his bat slows down, bad plate discipline is going to make his decline even sharper than it would be otherwise.

that’s a huge red flag, not even mentioning that he probably needs to be moved to corner outfield asap, which diminishes his value.

not_brooks
2 years 9 months ago

This comment actually makes me feel like I’ve wasted my time here.

You don’t have anything to say in response, so you’re stooping to insults? Nice.

JaysGLawrie
2 years 9 months ago

It doesn’t effect his play though. I’m not saying that drugs are blown out of proportion, I’m saying that he has yet to falter on the field and he has shown that he wants to shake this so I don’t think it’ll get any worse than what happened this spring.

not_brooks
2 years 9 months ago

7/150 is a huge risk for any ballplayer. Let alone a 32-year-old who has played exactly one full season over the past five years while continue to struggle with substance abuse.

As an O’s fan, I’d be happy to see the Jays sign Hamilton for 7/150. That should put them in a world of financial hurt, and thus out of the picture in the AL East, for the next seven years.

MSUcorner
2 years 9 months ago

Dodgers: 10 years: $250 mil. And that’s our final offer!!

Dodgersarelife
2 years 9 months ago

Why do I find this not hard to believe.

Gumby65
2 years 9 months ago

Nick Punto is mulling over your offer.

matthew07
2 years 9 months ago

Not more than 5 years and not more than 15 MIL a season. Whatever sucker team pays more or gives more years is just asking for trouble. I think 5 years is even pushing it.

Magic Johnson
2 years 9 months ago

Oh, nonsense! We’ll give him twice what he’s asking for!

W.G
2 years 9 months ago

A smart team would NOT try to sign Hamilton at this price.

Michael
2 years 9 months ago

He wants to be paid $25,000,000 when he’s 38?

2 years 9 months ago

probably more like $30,000,000 given the way I would expect the contract to be worked out.

2 years 9 months ago

I expect him to get a 5 year deal worth somewhere around $115M.

Rabbitov
2 years 9 months ago

Every year there is a free agent like this. Every year we laugh at his asking price. Every year a team pays significantly more than the asking price and we are shocked. Could this be the year we change the trend?

matthew07
2 years 9 months ago

I hope so.

hardcoreforhardcore
2 years 9 months ago

First thing I thought of when I saw the title of the report. While I would hope a team wouldn’t offer a contract like this to Hamilton, I also didn’t see Fielder getting the deal he got.

not_brooks
2 years 9 months ago

Fielder got his contract prior to his 28-year-old season after playing 157+ games in each of his seven full seasons in the majors. Not to mention 161+ from 2009 – 2011.

Hamilton turns 32 in May, and he’s topped 150 games once in six seasons.

Sure, there are issues with both players, and I can’t believe I’m downplaying Fielder’s girth, but I think the industry would consider weight issues less of a risk than injuries and substance abuse issues.

westcoastwhitesox
2 years 9 months ago

good info, thanks

burnboll
2 years 9 months ago

Fielder, like all husky people, is quite the jolly character. Overpaid, sure, a little bit. But he’s an awesome player with an expensive contract.

The risk with Hamilton is that he ends up being a formerly great player with a mammoth of a contract.

Fielder’s contract is in the same ballpark as Joey Votto (for now). Very expensive, and not a bargain. But contracts with players who are reliable.

I predict that Fielder’s contract will remain a “fair” one throughout the length of it. Votto’s contract on the other hand, is bound to turn real sour in 5-6 years IMO.

thomas1911
2 years 9 months ago

I’m gonna say your a tigers fan. The last 1/3 of that contract will not be good

burnboll
2 years 9 months ago

No, I actually dislike the Tigers a lot, although I have real reason for why.

I like a lot of their players, but their franchise just rubs me the wrong way.

No offence Tigers fans.

As for Prince, I just have a feeling he’s durable. Sure, he’ll be about 400 lbs in 4 years. But he’ll defy the law of physics somehow, and still bat for average, power and what ever else. Heck, he’ll probably steal 10+ bases.

Sliding for home like a mother LOL.

thomas1911
2 years 9 months ago

Didn’t mean anything particularly negative, just don’t think most fans agree with fielder being durable. He’ll be amazing the first few years, but when you’re that large, 9 years is a long commitment

burnboll
2 years 9 months ago

Aouch, sorry, thought the contract was for 7 years. My bad. And those last three years may not be so fun.

I mean, unless you’re running a deep dish pizza place in Detroit down town.

Is Prince sponsored by Domino’s? Or is it the other way around?

thomas1911
2 years 9 months ago

7 years for prince would be similar to 5 for Hamilton- a great get for the team. Prince waited a long time for that deal. And I think Prince could own a few Dominos if he wanted to.

One other thing, any reason I can only post on the mobile site?

NickinIthaca
2 years 9 months ago

I’m pretty sure that Prince is sponsored by Little Caesars. And I’d wager that there are a few of them in the Detroit area…

LazerTown
2 years 9 months ago

That was a mistake to sign votto for so long. It probably is around where he would have fallen for his next deal, but they locked him up when they still had him for another 2 years. 12 years is a long time to lock a player up for that long. I just shudder to think what if he gets injured significantly,

burnboll
2 years 9 months ago

In a few years, Votto’s contract is bound to look like Ryan Howards. What kind of production do they expect from him when he’s 37?

johnsilver
2 years 9 months ago

Fielder is as fat as the goodyear blimp. Don’t misuse the wood husky, for fat.

He is (if anything) bigger than his obese father, who was fairly useful as a bat until the age 33 season and if that remains true with Jr? That leaves 5 seasons of horrendous value the Tigers are going to regret.

hardcoreforhardcore
2 years 9 months ago

Don’t get me wrong; I’m not comparing the two players. I simply said I didn’t see Fielder getting the money and years he got, which is why, given teams’ penchants for handing out big money contracts, Hamilton getting what he wants wouldn’t surprise me.

LazerTown
2 years 9 months ago

I actually like the Fielder contract comparatively. Sure he is a slightly worse hitter, and not as good in the field, but they signed a player that is 4 years younger at a deal for 1 year less. They only had to sign fielder through age 36, where pujols will be there til he is 41. Fielder should be pretty productive though his contract. Whereas Pujols I don’t know, because how often do players stay productive into their 40’s.

Douglas Bath
2 years 9 months ago

If the White Sox had managed to avoid a collapse would people already being saying Fielder was not worth what they paid him this season? 4.9 WAR for 23 million? It’s not bad I guess but it’s not good either.

LazerTown
2 years 9 months ago

And the Angels?
Don’t see how it’s relevant, is more than just 1 player as the reason that a team misses the playoffs. Fielder may not have been as good as we have seen him ever, but he still performed to what they paid him to do. Fielder has been better than Pujols last 2 years with the bat.

not_brooks
2 years 9 months ago

Considering Hamilton’s age, injuries and substance abuse issues, I’d expect so.

burnboll
2 years 9 months ago

I think there will be a shift towards locking up young players.

There is little reason for a team to spend 11 mil a year on a spoiled vet like jimmy rollins when you instead can put that money towards extending a Manny machado.

Spend 150 mil for 5 years of Hamilton or maybe 60 mil for 9 years of Starlin Castro?

Easy choice.

I think we’ve had a period where young players weren’t perceived to be ready unless they had played 3-4 years of minor league ball. But Trout, Machado, Harper, changed that.

Free agent vets aren’t gonna be as desirable imo.