Ervin Santana Rumors: Tuesday

Here's the latest on Ervin Santana, whose free agency situation has been the most active in recent days among the three still-unsigned players who declined qualifying offers:

  • The Braves are "making [a] legitimate run" to sign Santana, a source tells Jim Bowden of (on Twitter). 

Earlier Updates

  • Santana could be expanding the search for possible landing spots, reports Ken Rosethal of FOX Sports (via Twitter). An executive from an interested team told Rosenthal that Santana's representatives were "talking to everyone."
  • The Orioles are standing by their previously-reported, one-year offer of around $13MM, reports Eduardo Encina of the Baltimore Sun. A source tells Encina that the O's had been in touch with Santana's reps late this afternoon, and that Santana is likely to choose a destination within the next day or two.
  • The Orioles and Blue Jays still look like the favorites, writes Jon Heyman of Santana's interest in a one-year deal is genuine, reports Heyman, with the righty being motivated to prove himself on the field.
  • Indeed, as MLBTR's Steve Adams noted earlier this morning, if Santana signs a one-year pact and throws well enough to earn another qualifying offer, he would stand to make nearly as much in two years as he could on the three-year offers he has reportedly received in the low-$30MM range. Or, he might find the substantial, multi-year deal that has seemingly eluded him to date. It bears recalling that Scott Feldman managed to get three years at a $10MM AAV earlier in the offseason, and that more comparable arms like Matt Garza and Ubaldo Jimenez landed $50MM guarantees over four years. Betting on another good season and a market reset carries risk, but accepting a lesser multi-year deal would pretty much ensure that Santana could not reach his full earning potential. 
  • Orioles GM Dan Duquette called Santana's market "interesting," with more possible teams seemingly entering the fray as injuries change roster complexions.
  • We learned that Braves starter Kris Medlen is getting a second opinion, but his MRI shows ligament damage. Atlanta has definitely been in touch with Santana, the same report provided.

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  1. Rodger Williams 1 year ago

    The Braves NEED to sign Santana now. I know the have some in house guys but that rotation looks like a horrid mess all of a sudden.

    • WindsorJaysFan 1 year ago

      With what money? The Braves are hovering around $92 million right now and they’ve openly stated they can’t support a payroll over $100 million. The only way they’d be able to sign Santana is by giving him the 4 year/$50 million deal he’s looking for and backloading it. Signing a player to a 4 year deal to address a 1 year need is not a good move, they’d be better off looking at the trade route.

      • pft2 1 year ago

        225 million in revenue. Their payroll has them at 45% payroll/revenue which is under the MLB average of 47%. Don’t be fooled by their greedy poor mouthing.

      • erg 1 year ago

        yea i agree. i think santana is just going to be too expensive with that draft pick attached. they wont need a 5th start until a couple weeks into the season, so maybe they try and get by until they work out a trade. if theyre going to sacrifice first round talent, might as well see if they can make it worthwhile.

        • NL_East_Rivalry 1 year ago

          A trade won’t happen. They don’t need a good 4th starter and can go with having Garcia/Hale as their 5th until Floyd is ready. Minor and Beachy will be in play by then anyway so Wood/Garcia/Hale/Floyd all options for that 5th starter slot.

          • erg 1 year ago

            I meant that I think a trade is more likely than signing Santana. Probably a little presumptuous to assume beachy will be back, but I hope he comes back strong. This rotation could get thin very very quick if Minor’s shoulder turns into more than just “spring training bumps and bruises”. I don’t actually think its serious, but just pointing out we’re on very thin ice at the moment. right now it looks like we’re going to start the season with Teheran, Wood, and an assortment of 4-5 starters. not a good way to jump out of the gate. i wouldn’t count out on a trade happening. maybe not right away, but i definitely think one will go down. with medlen down, we just don’t match up against Nats rotation and i really see no reason to think we can count on garcia, hale, or floyd to fill the void.

          • NL_East_Rivalry 1 year ago

            No chance we matched up with the nationals rotation beforehand. These 4-5 guys will hurt us in the month of April but won’t be much of a factor beyond that. A trade or even signing Sabtana, if payroll permitted, would be a great help, but not a need. If more guys are hurt mid-season I could see a July trade, but this year our offense needs to step up.

          • erg 1 year ago

            offense definitely needs to step it up, but right now i would say we don’t have enough ML arms for a full season. we’re not out of it or anything crazy like that, but if there’s another injury to anyone significant in the rotation, i don’t think they’re going to compete. not much wiggle room and we have 162 games to go. i’d definitely like to see a trade happen. right now were just going to be asking the bullpen to cover way too many innings.

            there’s still plenty of time for things to get worked out, so i’m not saying the sky is falling, but i’m concerned about where things are at right now. losing medlen was a huge blow.

      • Rodger Williams 1 year ago

        Well, guess they found the money now didn’t they? lol :)

    • k26dp 1 year ago

      Mike Minor > Ervin Santana
      Julio Teheran > Ervin Santana
      Alex Wood > Ervin Santana

      They don’t need an expensive fourth starter. They need their draft pick to help restock the farm and a little payroll flexibility for mid-season.

      • erg 1 year ago

        they need innings. i don’t really care where it comes from, but minor and teheran are the only guys on our staff right now we can count on going deep. that’s just not going to cut it.

  2. Opti-Mets-tic 1 year ago

    As a Mets fan… I can’t help but hope Santana goes to Toronto.

    • WindsorJaysFan 1 year ago

      Enjoy Syndergaard, we’ll enjoy Santana.

      Lopsided, but still

      • Opti-Mets-tic 1 year ago

        And Dickey. He’s due for a rebound.

        • WindsorJaysFan 1 year ago

          I don’t think many people realize just how good he was in the 2nd half of 2013 after his back spasms subsided. Add the fact he’s already got his knuckleball up to 75 mph and we’re only 2 weeks in to spring training, 2014 should be a very good year for him

          • Opti-Mets-tic 1 year ago

            I agree. He’s on my fantasy teams.

      • Opti-Mets-tic 1 year ago

        And #43. He’s due for a quite a rebound.

      • Lucas Kschischang 1 year ago

        I still think Syndergaard will get torn to shreds in the bigs as an SP with his current repertoire.

        • WindsorJaysFan 1 year ago

          He’s going to be an all or nothing. Roy Halladay or Jeremy Jeffress, no in-between.

  3. section 34 1 year ago

    Stephen Drew? Kendrys Morales?

    (crickets. tumbleweeds.)

    • WindsorJaysFan 1 year ago

      RE: Players who should not have turned down their QO’s

      • pft2 1 year ago

        That’s what they were saying about Jiminez and Santana, but both looks to be doing fine w/o the QO. See what Drew and Morales get in the end once teams take off their rose tinted spectacles and look at their in house options.

  4. 22deputydo33 1 year ago

    i predict that ervin santana will sign with the blue jays. a million dollars more than what the orioles are offering and no incentives. santana and the blue jays will make a very dominent team in the al east.

    • Lefty_Orioles_Fan 1 year ago

      The O’s really don’t need Santana.
      Maybe the O’s could consider trading Matusz and Flaherty for Collins or Crow from the Royals.
      The O’s spent enough money and for me to be saying that…. =P
      I really don’t think we need to spend anymore, just make a trade or two.

      • Aaron Johnson 1 year ago

        There is no way the O’s should trade either Flaherty or Matusz. Their starting 2nd baseman and insurance policy on Machado at 3rd and their lefty specialist out of the bullpen? Those are 2 pretty important pieces.

        • pft2 1 year ago

          They should keep Matusz and and sign Drew to play 2B. Drew will be good insurnace if JJ Hardy leaves as a FA, and if they fall out of the race early they could trade either Drew or Hardy

  5. pft2 1 year ago

    The Braves would be giving up a 1st round pick so are likely exploring a multi-year deal. I expect them to sign him at 3/39 with a player option for 6 million.

  6. rick staley 1 year ago

    Braves need Santana more than the other teams in the bidding competition. He eats innings and unless you think our bullpen can absorb those innings without him…I’ve got an igloo in Arizona for a good price.

    Seriously, I’d rather pay a younger SP in his prime that eats up 200+ innings with a live arm $14 million per than Tim Hudson $11.5 per when you don’t now how many innings he will pitch due to his age, and recent injuries.

    Santana @ $43 million for 3 yrs. w/ a team option in ’17 @ $15 million w/ a $2 million buyout. Guaranteed money=$45 million over 3 yrs. He is a much safer play than Samardzija…imho. Cubs want too much for their ace. Theo can keep him!

  7. "Bobby" 1 year ago

    If you’re Santana, you go with the team with the best chance at postseason. #Braves

  8. thefridge99 1 year ago

    If the Jays are smart they’ll throw in a few incentives of their own.

  9. NL_East_Rivalry 1 year ago

    O’Brien says braves signed Santana

    • NL_East_Rivalry 1 year ago

      Braves have press release this morning, said to be for Santana

  10. MB923 1 year ago

    Braves just signed Santana

  11. erg 1 year ago

    it’s probably more action than normally happens this time of year.

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