Red Sox Considering Lester For Kemp Trade

6:51pm: A source from the Dodgers indicates there are no significant discussions between the Dodgers and Red Sox involving Kemp or Lester, the Boston Globe’s Nick Cafardo tweets.

4:00pm: The Red Sox are considering a trade with the Dodgers involving Matt Kemp and Jon Lester as the principals, a club source tells Gordon Edes of ESPNBoston.com. The Dodgers’ interest in Lester was reported yesterday by Edes.

Kemp’s name is being floated since the Dodgers are unwilling to part with top outfield prospect Joc Pederson, according to Edes. Centering a deal around Kemp, however, is problematic from the Red Sox’s perspective because of the $107MM remaining on his contract. For the deal to make any sense for Boston, Edes reports the Dodgers would have to be willing to eat a considerable amount of money, but they might be willing to do so for a pitcher of Lester’s caliber despite him being no more than a two-month rental. The Red Sox preference, however, is a package centered around Pederson.

Earlier today, it was reported Kemp is a backup plan for the Mariners while the Yankees are not currently in on the Dodgers outfielder. Kemp has been linked to the Indians and Rangers, as well.

Edes also notes Phillies left-hander Cole Hamels is not available and the Red Sox have not inquired about Cliff Lee. For more on the 2014 trade market, check out MLBTR’s position-by-position breakdown.


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354 Comments on "Red Sox Considering Lester For Kemp Trade"


cubs7691
1 year 1 month ago

Wow

RooneyTunes
1 year 1 month ago

If the best they’re going to offer is Kemp, the Sox should go to another team with Lester.

Sal
1 year 1 month ago

Yup, agreed. No sense in ruining the team for the next 4 years.

LordOfTheSwings
1 year 1 month ago

woah woah woah… Kemp has 5 years left.

Sal
1 year 1 month ago

wishful thinking on my part, lol.

Dr. Balloons
1 year 1 month ago

In this case the comp pick for losing him as a free agent would have more value. If this is what they can get then hang onto him.

RooneyTunes
1 year 1 month ago

Well, let’s not go crazy. Kemp’s a proven MLB-caliber outfielder. It’s the contract he comes bundled with that makes this unideal. They can do better. If Kemp came packaged with, say, a prospect like Anderson/Reed/Windle and Schebler or Bellinger… It’s not a bad offer provided a top prospect isn’t out there.

Dr. Balloons
1 year 1 month ago

My comment was meant if it was basically just Kemp. Kemp has negative value. Lester has tons of value, though somewhat limited due to his contract being up. If Kemp came with Lee, Reed, Dominquez and/or other quality guys it may be decent, but I don’t want any part of Kemp. Especially not at the cost of giving up a talent like Lester. Also, Kemp has proven that he actually can’t play in the outfield. He is a horrendous defender.

Brian Jung
1 year 1 month ago

Dodgers should just give you guys zach lee

RooneyTunes
1 year 1 month ago

Just like I think they can do better than Kemp, they could do better than Lee. Lee and Kemp together would be a nice package, but with the way the Dodgers have valued their top prospects (rightfully so in the case of Seagar/Pederson/Urias) I can’t see them putting both Lee and Kemp in the deal.

Brian Jung
1 year 1 month ago

Jose Dominiguez?

Brian Jung
1 year 1 month ago

How about Giancarlo for Urias,Seager,Lee, and Withrow? Ik this will not happen this year, but is it plausible?

RooneyTunes
1 year 1 month ago

Don’t see it ever happening, to be honest. The odds of Giancarlo being traded are pretty slim, and I don’t even think that’s for lack of the Marlins trying. Stanton’s trade value is sky-high. Higher than most, if not all teams, are willing to go. The Dodgers, Pirates, Cardinals, Red Sox, Mets, Rangers, and Cubs all have the pieces to acquire him, but I don’t see any of them being willing to bankrupt the farm system to do so. I think you see teams wait it out and hope he hits free agency. But anyway, back to Lester and Kemp.

108 stitches
1 year 1 month ago

Man Kemp, Crawford and Ethier are around for a minimum of 3 years after this one as is Puig, you would think if they were to go after Stanton they would be willing to include Pederson. You gotta think the Dodgers wouldn’t mind the National league adding the DH.

Kloob Teefis
1 year 1 month ago

If they can do better than Kemp and they can do better than Lee, they can do better than Kemp + Lee.

Kemp has negative trade value right now, and it’s not close. Even if LA takes on a lot of his contract, he’s an abysmal defensive outfielder who isn’t showing any signs of returning to his elite offensive output.

Stratocaster
1 year 1 month ago

If there’s anything here at all, you’d have to think there would be more involved. Hard to imagine that Kemp for Lester straight up gets done if everybody is sober.

Andrew Rosner
1 year 1 month ago

The only reason this trade makes sense is if the Sox think they will resign him after the season ends…2 years ago this would have been an even trade but today, Lester is so much more valuable than Kemp

Dr. Balloons
1 year 1 month ago

I feel fairly confident in saying that this would be the worst trade in the history of the Boston Red Sox.

Victoria Roberts
1 year 1 month ago

That was Jeff Bagwell for Larry Anderson. I doubt this comes close.

Dr. Balloons
1 year 1 month ago

Anderson was decent out of the pen, and didn’t stick the sox with a horrendous contract for an injury risk player who can’t play defense.

Victoria Roberts
1 year 1 month ago

We traded a perennial all star at a power position who hit 449 career home runs for a middle reliever. I have to go with that being worse than trading two months of Lester for an average leftfielder. Unless we pick up the entirety of the contract. Then I’d have to agree.

Eric Mack
1 year 1 month ago

Especially if Lester comes back to Boston as a free agent as he said he would be interested in.

NomarGarciaparra
1 year 1 month ago

Then we would have not one, but two, huge contracts in our hands – not a good scenario. Of course, in a couple of years, we could offer Lester and Kemp back to the Dodgers for Urias and another prospect 😛

Eric Mack
1 year 1 month ago

Eh, they can afford it.

Stratocaster
1 year 1 month ago

Maybe this is Boston’s way of paying the Dodgers back for that blockbuster a few seasons ago. I never could imagine how they got LA to take all those bad contracts. Maybe Kemp is the bad contract to be named later coming Boston’s way.

Dr. Balloons
1 year 1 month ago

good point there. Maybe there was a secret “you can crush us in a deal in a year or two in exchange” situation. (I don’t actually believe this so don’t dump on me for it.)

BucknerRulz86
1 year 1 month ago

Doubtful. Yes, the deal helped the Sox bigtime in terms of salary relief, but Gonzo and Beckett certainly have not been wasted talent since going West.

Stratocaster
1 year 1 month ago

That salary relief was everything. It allowed Boston to rid themselves of bad contracts with players who we’re turning toxic. There’s no WS last season without that deal, and no other team was financially positioned to make it.

BucknerRulz86
1 year 1 month ago

It was just half the equation. Two teams benefited. The Dodgers wouldn’t have won the NL West without Gonzo, Beckett and Crawford. It worked out for both teams. End of story.

IdontknowwhyIpostonforums
1 year 1 month ago

It really was only one bad contract in Crawford. Beckett and Gonzalez have been solid since joining LA and in the case of Beckett the remainder of the contract was not that long.

KCBandit
1 year 1 month ago

I think a man named Babe Ruth would say otherwise.

MaineSox
1 year 1 month ago

He wasn’t traded, he was sold.

Adrian Garcia
1 year 1 month ago

Cherington should get fired on the spot if he does this

Eric Droegemeier
1 year 1 month ago

Why even consider this what a horrible trade, has Cherington lost his marbles??

Leon Barry
1 year 1 month ago

No way Cherington keeps his job if this happens, right? Unless Kemp returns to MVP form I guess.

Dr. Balloons
1 year 1 month ago

If he even agrees to this trade he needs to be fired before he can file the paperwork to get it official.

Tom
1 year 1 month ago

To me, the only way the Dodgers deal Pederson for Lester is if they can get Lester to sign a contract with them. Otherwise, Kemp (and most of his contract) for half a season of Lester probably makes sense from their perspective.

Brian Jung
1 year 1 month ago

I think Mariners might swoop in later as they go to Plan B. Might be willing to pay more than the red sox

Bob George
1 year 1 month ago

Kemp for a can of beans makes sense, so of course getting a good pitcher makes sense. The trade makes zero sense for the Red Sox.

Adrian Garcia
1 year 1 month ago

Only way this is plausible is if Seager is going to Boston with him, in which case it’s an awful trade for LA

Eli
1 year 1 month ago

Colleti has already stated he has no intention of giving any of Urias, Pederson and Seager. So unless he is lying, which he might be, I seriously doubt that.

Kloob Teefis
1 year 1 month ago

GMs say that kind of thing all the time. It’s their job to put forth that their prospects are extremely valuable to them, that doesn’t mean they won’t actually consider trading them.

Eli
1 year 1 month ago

True, I was under the impression new Dodgers’ FO was dedicated to rebuilding the farm, which is why I trust his word more readily than I normally would.

NomarGarciaparra
1 year 1 month ago

What about Kemp + Seager for Lester + Middlebrooks?

IdontknowwhyIpostonforums
1 year 1 month ago

That is a terrible deal from the Dodger’s stand point. Why trade a top 25 prospect in baseball for a guy who can’t hit and half a year of a pitcher who is at best a number 3 on the team?

NomarGarciaparra
1 year 1 month ago

Where Lester would slot in the Dodgers’ rotation is irrelevant. Lester is what he is. It just so happens that the Dodgers have a pretty strong rotation with Kershaw, Greinke, and Ryu.

It seems like a lot to give to me too, but it seems like teams are willing to pay that price for an established piece at the deadline. If you’re looking for an ESTABLISHED piece, Lester fits that bill completely. He has a long track record, and perhaps most importantly, his postseason numbers are strong.

IdontknowwhyIpostonforums
1 year 1 month ago

It is not irrelevant where he slots in that the Dodger’s rotation is strong enough that Lester is at best their number 3 starter. That tells me that if the team is going to pay a premium for a veteran player it needs to be at a position that there will be a clear upgrade. Lester, as good as he is, is not worth as much to LA as he would be to say Pittsburgh or Atlanta or just about every other MLB team for that matter.

Kloob Teefis
1 year 1 month ago

I am willing to bet quite a bit of money that this doesn’t happen.

This reeks of idle conversation turning into rumor with little to no traction at all.

MartinWinkdale
1 year 1 month ago

God, please…NO!

Travis2014
1 year 1 month ago

If the Dodgers ate a decent chunk(make it 15mil a year) and still send a few nice prospects along with Kemp it wouldn’t be that bad of a deal for the Red Sox. Though the injury problems would make me say no if I was the Red Sox.

GetToTheChoppa
1 year 1 month ago

The dodgers aren’t eating 15 mill a year and sending nice prospects for a rental in Lester that they can’t extend a QO to.

Only way the sox take kemp is if the dodgers
1. send 40-50 mill to help pay for kemp
2. send a good prospect like Urias and the Red Sox take on the contract in return for Lester. Essentially giving up someone to eat that money so they don’t have to.

Edit: unless you meant the sox are sent money to knock his price down to 15 mill not 21. Even then the best they’d look at is a guy like Zach Lee.

Travis2014
1 year 1 month ago

Yeah I meant make his yearly salary down into the 12-15mil range a year. All I am saying is the idea is a lot more realistic than some think and also isn’t as bad for the Red Sox as some think.

YARRitsBLAKE
1 year 1 month ago

The whole point of the Dodgers eating a huge part of his contract is so they WON’T have to ship “a few nice prospects along with Kemp”. If they didn’t eat his contract, THEN they would have to ship prospects in order to get the trade done. Lester would definitely be an upgrade over Haren for sure but honestly I am still holding out hope Kemp can return somewhat to form. If the Dodgers eat a good chunk of his contract, the Red Sox could easily have a win in this trade, simply based on the fact that the Dodgers may have zero guarantee of extending Lester if they acquire him.

sportsnut969
1 year 1 month ago

Matt Kemp / Zach Lee / Chris Anderson / Jose Dominguez + 50 Mil

For
John Lester / Brian Johnson / Simon Mercedes

soxfan0928
1 year 1 month ago

smdh….

mantistoboggan47
1 year 1 month ago

Any way the Sox can figure out a way to take on Ryan Howard’s contract as well with this trade?

EvilAbed
1 year 1 month ago

Lester for Kemp + Seager, with Dodgers eating very little of Kemp’s salary looks like a win-win

silverwidow
1 year 1 month ago

Seager is not going anywhere. Dodgers are not some poor team that needs to sell prospects for salary relief.

EvilAbed
1 year 1 month ago

While I agree Seager is probably staying, the Dodgers would love to do something about their current OF situation. 3 guys making too much money and not producing, and a top prospect rotting in the minors

stl_cards16
1 year 1 month ago

Yes but they could just DFA one if it means they have to trade away a top prospect to “fix” the problem.

EvilAbed
1 year 1 month ago

not that they’ve proven not to, but do the Dodgers have an infinite payroll? highly doubt someone picks up Kemp’s contract straight up

Sal
1 year 1 month ago

You don’t usually sell prospects for salary relief because their salaries are small by definition. You *trade* prospects to get a top of the rotation pitcher for the playoff run, such as Lester.

Dodgerz88
1 year 1 month ago

But in our rotation he is not a top of the rotation pitcher.

Jimgar
1 year 1 month ago

Our rotation? Are you part of the organization? Where Lester slots into the Dodgers rotation is irrelevant, his value is based performance, contract status, and the market for pitching.

Dodgerz88
1 year 1 month ago

Well them, looks as he holds no value for us when he’s only a two month rental and at best would be our #3 starter in exchange for Kemp and any of our top prospects. As another Sox fan said Sox should move on and trade him to some other team.

And yea, im a die hard Dodgers fan that makes me part of the team.

IdontknowwhyIpostonforums
1 year 1 month ago

I really hate when people complain about the possessive reference to teams. If you support your team, then you have the right to say “we” or “our” when you refer to them.

And where he slots in is totally relevant. If he is at best a number 3 in the rotation that means come playoff time it is a tossup between him and Ryu for a start in the playoffs. Granted, I would take Lester 99/100 times given his experience, but the point still remains. Additionally, he is a FA at the end of the year and that plays a big part in how much we (the Dodgers) should give up.

RedSoxDynasty
1 year 1 month ago

In the playoffs Lester is every bit as valuable as Kershaw and better than Greinke!

silverwidow
1 year 1 month ago

The original post suggested sending Seager WITH Kemp so that the Dodgers don’t have to eat money. That is like selling a prospect.

It’s a moot point because Stan Kasten doesn’t deal elite prospects for rent-a-players. And Seager is concensus top 15-20 talent.

GetToTheChoppa
1 year 1 month ago

Whatever money they save by giving up a guy like Seager they can use to rebuild that bullpen next off season. The dodgers send anyone but Pederson like Seager Urias Lee they’d get away with dumping most his contract. Easily saving 70-85 mill. That’ll rebuild the bullpen for more runs at the WS.

Matt
1 year 1 month ago

Seager is the Dodgers #1 prospect. He is going nowhere.

GetToTheChoppa
1 year 1 month ago

If the red sox say we will take kemps ENTIRE contract you’d have to consider dealing Seager. They need bullpen help, they need to resign Hanley, they’ll need new 4/5 starters. Is Seager really worth 100 million? Cause being unwilling to deal Seager to unload 100 mill you’re saying he’s worth that much. It’s great he’s the top prospect but 100 mill could help the dodgers fill holes the next 3 years. Seager fills one void if Hanley leaves. Hanley doesn’t Seagers wasting away in the minors. Cause Hanley Gordon the Cuban infielders they signed they’ll have to unload somebody.

Matt
1 year 1 month ago

Red Sox aren’t taking Kemp’s entire contract so your point is moot. Seager is still about a year and a half away. and the 100 mil you are talking about is nothing. MLB doesn’t have a salary cap and the Dodgers owners are bloated with cash. They don’t have a spending limit. Seager is the type of prospect that you don’t trade unless it is in a package for someone like Tulo or Giancarlo Stanton.

GetToTheChoppa
1 year 1 month ago

Seager won’t fetch you price, Stanton, Tulo. Pederson Seager Urias and Lee would have to be given up. You aren’t getting any of those unless you toss in the other 3. You won’t get any of those for Seager and some other prospects. End of story. Furthermore the dodgers are the top spending team in the league. You really think they wanna continue to pay underwhelming kemp for 5 more years at 20 a pop and continue to add money upward of 250 mill? Yeah cause you know spending that much has gotten them so far already. By your theory they’ll continue to pay kemp, they’ll resign Hanley, they’ll try to add bullpen help and all the while the owners would be okay spending that much underwhelming like they have this season? Where do you think money comes from trees? Just cause they’re rich doesn’t meann they’ll continue to add salary hoping to win a WS. 250mill is a lot to pay to not win a WS. Even if they DFA nobody is picking up the contract. The dodgers will be on the hook still. Best chance they have is to get the Red Sox or any team to take on that contract as much as possible.

IdontknowwhyIpostonforums
1 year 1 month ago

The need to unload the contract would mean more if the Dodgers had money problems. They don’t. The real issue is whether trading Kemp for Lester is really an improvement for the team. People talk about Pederson as if he is the second coming of Duke Snider. The guy has serious problems hitting LHP and his strikeouts are very high. Is that all of the sudden going to change when he makes it to the big leagues?

Not that adding Lester will be bad, it is just not going to provide the same impact if it costs Kemp and one of the top 5 prospects in the system.

Flint Beastwood
1 year 1 month ago

No way Seager is part of any trades.

EvilAbed
1 year 1 month ago

True. Sub in a lesser prospect for Seager and that may make more sense

Dodgerz88
1 year 1 month ago

Not even close. Seager and Kemp for 2 months of Lester? For that we can throw in Z. Lee and J. Domingez and go after Price or Hammels. Bo Sox will get Kemp and Rojas or something like that.

Puig Power
1 year 1 month ago

That is insanity.

Matt
1 year 1 month ago

yep, Seager isn’t being traded, especially for a two month rental

Brian Lynch
1 year 1 month ago

Nothing more than idle talk. For one thing, the Dodgers don’t need Lester. Our rotation is loaded. And Lester has already said that he plans to return to the Red Sox if he gets traded. We’re going to get something of real value if/when Kemp gets traded.

Flint Beastwood
1 year 1 month ago

Straight up? I love this idea. Go Blue.

Fangaffes
1 year 1 month ago

Pederson for Lester and Webster.

silverwidow
1 year 1 month ago

They don’t want Webster.

Flint Beastwood
1 year 1 month ago

Pretty confident nobody does.

Matt
1 year 1 month ago

Had Webster once, we don’t want him back

Victoria Roberts
1 year 1 month ago

So what is plan b for a number one starter for the Red Sox next year, because they would have to see how Lester hitting the open market means he’s unlikely to resign right?

RooneyTunes
1 year 1 month ago

Personally, I hope that if Lester doesn’t come back they don’t make a drastic move to bring in another ace. I’d rather the Webster/De La Rosa/Workman/Ranaudo quartet get their chance to play.

Victoria Roberts
1 year 1 month ago

So in that scenario Lackey is the number 1? No thank you. You need a better pitcher and veteran presence at the top of the rotation. De La Rosa, Workman and Webster have done absolutely nothing to prove they can make up the majority of a rotation. 4 and 5 sure, but not at the top.

RooneyTunes
1 year 1 month ago

Yeah, I don’t imagine most people agree with me. I tend to favor the prospects. For me, if they’re going to target a free agent other than Lester, I hope the highest they go is Shields.

Victoria Roberts
1 year 1 month ago

Were you pleased with what you saw of Webster today? Because my heart couldn’t take an entire season of that. They played games with Lester and now they’re going to have to pay. I don’t really prefer Shields to Lester, and i can see not wanting to be stuck with a bad contract, but there’s no reason to just assume he tanks. If anything with Shields being older, you run the risk of him losing his stuff before Lester does. This reeks of the Red Sox FO trying to pull another fast one. They need to reign it in before next season blows up in their faces before it has even started.

RooneyTunes
1 year 1 month ago

I know he’s tough to watch, but Webster really needs more of a chance. Counting today, he’s only thrown 35.2 MLB innings. He’s got enough potential to be given a better shot than that before we give up on him. See if he can make the adjustments, get the pitches under control, and if not give Ranaudo or Barnes a shot, or maybe even Owens and Johnson next year.

By the way, I agree about Lester. I really want him back, and it’s the home team bias speaking, but even though it’s going to cost market value at this point I feel they need to do it. If not, I’m just saying I don’t want them to go out and blow it all on Scherzer.

Victoria Roberts
1 year 1 month ago

Scherzer will cost more and is having a bad year. That would be a no. I don’t know, if this deal gets done then they lose the exclusive window to negotiate with Lester. I think I’ve seen enough of Webster. The guy has serious issues throwing strikes. I’m perfectly willing to let him Workman, De La Rosa, Barnes, Johnson, Ranaudo and Owens duke it out in Spring Training next year for the four and five spots, but you need more experience in 1-3.

stl_cards16
1 year 1 month ago

But you have to have someone at the top that you know is going to give you 200+ quality innings. Wainwright was such a key piece for the Cardinals to keep even with all the depth in the minors. You need stability at the top.

tristan winslow
1 year 1 month ago

Lester said he would be willing to come back to Sox if traded, so why not send him to LA for Kemp? Then we can just resign him in the offseason.

mantistoboggan47
1 year 1 month ago

Then you will have overpaid for Lester AND have Kemp!

Matt
1 year 1 month ago

good luck outbidding the Dodgers for Lester

Fangaffes
1 year 1 month ago

Good luck outbidding the Yankees for Lester. They clearly need a new top of the rotation lefty in that ballpark and they have proven over the years that weakening the Red Sox in the process is a big bonus and worth overpayng for.

JacobyWanKenobi
1 year 1 month ago

-Waiting for karkat-

Devern Hansack
1 year 1 month ago

Yep. This isn’t going to be a pretty thread. Cherington should be canned if he tries to make this deal.

Karkat
1 year 1 month ago

At least a trade involving Lester probably involves ownership so maybe they could say no if it came to it

Karkat
1 year 1 month ago

I kept my snark short and sweet. This would be so awful, though x_x

JacobyWanKenobi
1 year 1 month ago

Maybe the salary dump the sox made a few years ago was like a demon deal. Now LA is here to collect.

Karkat
1 year 1 month ago

No take backs!

Bill Mullen
1 year 1 month ago

Haha I highly doubt this is more than just speculation. Cherington seems to be smarter than this