Yankees Exploring Trades For Ian Kennedy, Jorge De La Rosa

10:21pm: The Yankees are also having discussions with the Rockies regarding starter Jorge De La Rosa, Bowden tweets.

10:09pm: The Yankees do have interest in Kennedy, but do not intend to give up both Jagielo and Clarkin for him, reports Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com (Twitter links). Heyman adds that there is “nothing hot at all” between the clubs at present.

Bowden adds (via Twitter) that a team executive informs him that Cashman has had discussions with many teams with potentially available starters.

10:02pm: The Yankees and Padres are discussing a deal that would send starter Ian Kennedy to New York in exchange for prospects Eric Jagielo and Ian Clarkin, a source tells Jim Bowden of ESPN.com (Twitter link). We heard earlier today that San Diego was disinclined to deal Kennedy unless it received an overwhelming offer.

Kennedy has been solid for the Padres this year after coming over from the Diamondbacks mid-year last season. Over 135 1/3 innings, he owns a 3.66 ERA (3.10 FIP) with 9.5 K/9, 2.8 BB.9 and a career-best 42.3 percent ground-ball rate. The 29-year-old is making $6.1MM this year and will pass through arbitration one more time before hitting the open market.

Jagielo and Clarkin were both first-round selections last year for New York. Jagielo, a third baseman, has slashed .243/.321/.470 through 209 plate appearances this year at age 22. Clarkin, meanwhile, is a 19-year-old southpaw who has pitched to a 3.36 ERA through 61 2/3 innings at low-A, notching 9.9 K/9 against 2.9 BB/9.


179 Responses to Yankees Exploring Trades For Ian Kennedy, Jorge De La Rosa Leave a Reply

  1. Just an awful idea.

  2. Baloo 11 months ago

    Yankees have no farm system…and they’re going to deal more prospects?

    • Jesus Gutierrez 11 months ago

      The Angels are doing it and look at them…

    • Anthonypaulb 11 months ago

      Really? Betances? Warren? Whitley? And we have severino judge and refsnyder almost ready to go?

      • snowbladerp14 11 months ago

        betances warren and whitley arent worth all that much.

        • Anthonypaulb 11 months ago

          Idc they’re helping us I’m not trying to get rid of them and betances is worth anything he’s the best reliever in baseball

          • Alex Henry 11 months ago

            lol “best reliever in baseball” because he has had a great year? 1 great year not even a entire year yet.. come on let’s stay rational

          • snowbladerp14 11 months ago

            i was just going to let the best reliever in baseball comment go

          • Anthonypaulb 11 months ago

            Obviously I’m talking about now meaning this year let be serious !!!

          • snowbladerp14 11 months ago

            Zach britton and darren oday are at least as good

          • Anthonypaulb 11 months ago

            You jumped and started comparing and went away from your statement I’m not comparing

          • Jim Johnson 11 months ago

            Britton is not as good. Britton will always be too defensive dependent. He’s good enough now, but that’s because he has that amazing infield behind him. Put him on the Yankees where those ground balls are getting hit to Roberts and Jeter, he isn’t as good.

            Betances is dominant anywhere he goes.

          • snowbladerp14 11 months ago

            i disagree with your statement. Just becasue the yankees ss and 2nd baseman are old and slow does not make a ground ball pitcher bad

          • Jim Johnson 11 months ago

            Britton isn’t bad. He’s a pitcher that allows you to put the ball in play far more than any team should be comfortable with from their closer. But his GB% is ungodly high, so that balances it out. But that’s always going to be far more defensive reliant than a guy that just strikes out the side. When you allow the ball to be put in play, bad things are going to happen. So the key is not to allow the ball to be put in play, and Betances doesn’t.
            I’m not completely against the idea of pitching to the park, pitching to the defense. But if you can just outright removes those from the equation, that’s even better.

          • snowbladerp14 11 months ago

            i disagree with your statement. Just becasue the yankees ss and 2nd baseman are old and slow does not make a ground ball pitcher bad

          • Alex Henry 11 months ago

            and you are basing off what he does not have the best ERA or xFIP as a reliever this year?

          • Anthonypaulb 11 months ago

            Bro let’s get back to my first point he’s a Yankee farm system guy lol I’m not comparing just stating he’s a great pitcher at this moment his stats say it all

          • YanksFan4EverNamed_Nick 11 months ago

            Yes he’s been great, show me some stats where he hasn’t been. He’s been an absolute stud.

          • Alex Henry 11 months ago

            I said he has a had a great year but not the best reliever in baseball big difference there

        • MB923 11 months ago

          An all star and arguably the best reliever in baseball this season isn’t worth much?

          • snowbladerp14 11 months ago

            darren oday and zach britton are at least as good

          • sdsny 11 months ago

            Ok…great? What does that have to do with Betances, Warren, and Whitley not being worth much?

          • jjs91 11 months ago

            Britton has a lower WAR, higher ERA, higher FIP, higher xFIP and Whip than Betances…

        • jjs91 11 months ago

          2.1 War for Betances is worth quite a bit…

          • MB923 11 months ago

            And it’s just behind Kennedy’s 2.2 WAR

          • Michael Lynch 11 months ago

            And the Padres are paying a lot more for that slight war edge. I would not trade Warren, Betances or Clarkin to aquire Kennedy and I hope the Yankees feel the same.

        • YanksFan4EverNamed_Nick 11 months ago

          Betances isn’t worth much and jeter isn’t retiring this year right?

      • JacobyWanKenobi 11 months ago

        Everybody loves to say that they have no system, but it’s definately middle of the pack. They’re just young and clumped A ball.

        • Jim Johnson 11 months ago

          However good their system is, it doesn’t have a Gausman in it. If that is what the Rockies are asking for, the Yankees are going to have to give up a lot to equal it.

          • Dynasty22 11 months ago

            Rockies won’t be getting an Gausman type from anybody for De La Rosa. It doesn’t hurt to try though.

          • Douglas Rau 11 months ago

            Well, now that he’s in the majors, neither do the Orioles. That’s the thing about team farm systems–once the prospects are in the big league they can go from top of the rankings to the bottom very quickly. And before the criticism comes, I’m not saying “The Orioles don’t have any good prospects” or “Their farm system is barren”. I’m just saying things can change in that respective relatively quickly.

          • Jim Johnson 11 months ago

            If you’re looking at it from a “Gausman version of a minor league in the system,” the Orioles have two pitchers that are in the Top 50 prospects. Law had both 10 and 11 last week or whenever he released his list. So the Orioles still do have a Gausman in the minors. The Yankees don’t have that in their minor league system.
            If you are looking at it from a “big time prospect that has been in the majors for a short time and showed some serious upside,” the Yankees don’t have that either.

          • Douglas Rau 11 months ago

            “Big time prospect that has been in the majors for a short time and showed some serious upside”–how is that NOT Betances? He was a big time prospect, short time in the majors, the upside speaks for itself. He’s not a starter but in terms of impact on a game, sometimes the biggest outs are recorded in the 6th/7th/8th innings and he could very well be a closer one of these seasons.

          • Jim Johnson 11 months ago

            As you said, he’s not a starter. He’s a big time relief pitcher. Which you need. But if a team is out there looking for a Gausman, they aren’t settling for a guy that can only work one inning.

          • Douglas Rau 11 months ago

            But in that moment, I wasn’t talking about trade value. I was just talking about “Big time prospect that has been in the majors for a short time and showed some serious upside”. But for the record, Betances was a starter throughout the minors. It was just that in the interest of getting him in the majors this season, they had him abandon 2 of his pitches of which he seemed not to control as well.

          • Jim Johnson 11 months ago

            But it is within the context of a starter. If you want to say the Yankees have a great young bullpen arm that looks like he is going to dominate the 8th or 9th inning for years go come, I won’t argue with you about that. And he might be worth De La Rosa. If I was the Rockies, that would probably be good enough for me. But the Rockies think De La Rosa deserves a Gausman level player. That’s a top 10 to 20 level prospect in all of baseball, that is either still a prospect or fresh in the majors and showing some upside.

    • jjs91 11 months ago

      They have an above average farm system, and will probably have 4 top 100 prospects at the end of the year.

      • MB923 11 months ago

        I wouldn’t say it’s above average (yet). Unless it went from 20th to 10-15 in the mid season rankings.

        • YanksFan4EverNamed_Nick 11 months ago

          It has and many prospects and progressing a lot differently then originally thought

        • jjs91 11 months ago

          With Refsnyder’s and Severino’s jump I’d say they jumped at least 3 spots, i think BA had them at 18, 13 after the update with Tanaka.

        • Michael Lynch 11 months ago

          Baseball America has them at 16. They actually have as much depth at positions prospects as they have had in along time, they are low on high tier starting pitching prospects.

    • MB923 11 months ago

      “Yankees have no farm system”

      Wow, never heard that one before!!

    • Jake 11 months ago

      They signed a ton of international free agents, they can afford to deal prospects.

  3. Seth Guttman 11 months ago

    Because the Javier Vazquez reunion worked out so well

  4. Andrew_Jackson_Pollock 11 months ago

    This can’t be a real rumor, can it? Is this like Bowden’s Lee for Judge/Severino trade idea?

    • Christopher Rioux 11 months ago

      Sometimes I wonder if Bowden’s “source” is just his own reflection in a mirror talking back to him.

  5. hurley55 11 months ago

    Kennedy going from Petco back to Yankee Stadium… Ummm yeah that’ll work out

    • griffey9988 11 months ago

      Was going to say something along those lines so I’ll just second what you said.

    • Connor 11 months ago

      He has a batter era on the road this year, try again

      • MB923 11 months ago

        I’ll add in info, he has a career 5.54 ERA in Interleague, all of that while with Arizona and San Diego. And I know it was awhile back, but his ERA with the Yankees was over 6

  6. Thankfully Heyman just posted this and allowed me to sleep peacefully tonight. “yankees are interested in kennedy but not in clarkin plus jagielo for kennedy.”

  7. JacobyWanKenobi 11 months ago

    No, stop. He’s a #3. Just stop.

  8. Karkat 11 months ago

    Yes, Yankees, trade away what prospects you have left to form an even more mediocre team. Yessssssss.

    • MB923 11 months ago

      I don’t think adding Kennedy would make them mediocre this season.

      • Karkat 11 months ago

        Can’t tell if self-deprecating or actual critical response.

        • MB923 11 months ago

          Critical response. I wouldn’t do that trade personally though.

  9. chicothekid 11 months ago

    I don’t know. That does seem like a fair deal to me. The Yankees farm system isn’t the best, so they must overpay in terms of prospect rank, and Kennedy has been pretty good. Seems like a fair deal for both sides.

  10. Sports Guy 11 months ago

    I’m okay with giving up Jagielo but him + Clarkin, for a pitcher thats going to regress in YS3? Don’t do it Cashman

  11. YankeeFan™ 11 months ago

    almost caught a heart attack no way ill give up that for Kennedy i understand for Tyson Ross but no way kennedy.

    • Jesus Gutierrez 11 months ago

      you would need quite a lot more then that to get Ross

      • MB923 11 months ago

        I wouldn’t want Ross anyway. He’d get killed in Yankee Stadium. His “good” stats are in large part to his home games at Oakland and San Diego

        4.87 Career Away ERA and a 1.51 WHIP

  12. Austin 11 months ago

    If they were interested why wouldn’t they of made this one big trade with headley?

    • Disqus0011a 11 months ago

      “they of.”

      • Austin 11 months ago

        I ask a simple question and yet you tried to be funny by correcting my grammar?

    • Douglas Rau 11 months ago

      Because in a division as close packed as the A.L. East is this year, every game counts. So maybe they were discussing a deal for both of them and they couldn’t agree on a price for both of them in terms of prospects but they obviously agreed on Headley + $1 mill for Solarte + DePaula so let’s get that done before one of those 3 gets hurt and then the Padres can continue to shop Kennedy around and the Yankees can continue to call other teams about available starting pitchers. Doesn’t mean they won’t come to an agreement on Kennedy later.

  13. JJ 11 months ago

    Kennedy for Jagielo and Clarkin .. NO WAY!

  14. SDFriars 11 months ago

    Thats a terrible trade for the Padres. Send away Ian Kennedy for two A ball players, one of whom is 22 and hitting .243. Hope not.

  15. Sd_brain 11 months ago

    Padres priority should be offense , however you can never have too much pitching. Hope they’re in on Judge or O’Brien.

    • Jesus Gutierrez 11 months ago

      offense and maybe a GM

    • Frittoman626 11 months ago

      I’d gladly give up O’Brien for Kennedy. Maybe they like Mason Williams or Tyler Austin and lesser pieces as well.

      • MB923 11 months ago

        Mason Williams is no longer a top prospect. Judge is clearly their top OF prospect.

  16. Sd_brain 11 months ago

    Padres priority should be offense , however you can never have too much pitching. Hope they’re in on Judge or O’Brien.

  17. brian310 11 months ago

    Take Danks. He will cost less.

    • sdsny 11 months ago

      He’ll cost less because he hasn’t been all that good this year. He’s pitching to a 4.35 ERA right now, and he’s given up 16 home runs. That number will go up in Yankee Stadium. Also, he walks more than 3 guys per 9 innings and has 7 wild pitches this year. Sounds like A.J. Burnett.

      • $2509879 11 months ago

        Danks also is owed $14 mil for the next two years, so Kennedy is the better option.

        • sdsny 11 months ago

          It’s the Yankees, so I wasn’t really thinking about money, but you’re right haha.

        • sdsny 11 months ago

          It’s the Yankees, so I wasn’t really thinking about money, but you’re right haha.

  18. sdsny 11 months ago

    These are highly rated prospects. I don’t know that I’d go that far for Ian Kennedy. If you’re gonna deplete the farm system, do so for somebody like Cole Hamels or, if possible, David Price. I wouldn’t mind Ian Kennedy at all, but you have to be careful.

    • Jesus Gutierrez 11 months ago

      how high would you rate these prospects on a scale of 1-10

      • sdsny 11 months ago

        They’re still very early in development, but you can’t look away from a 19-year old lefty. Probably a 6/10 for Jagielo, 7 for Clarkin. Jagielo’s disadvantage is that he’s already 22 and batting .246 in A ball.

      • PileOfSandwich 11 months ago

        They are rated 4th and 7th on the team chart i was looking at.

        • Danny Phillips 11 months ago

          Of a bottom tier system.

          • Frittoman626 11 months ago

            You mean a system that could be Top 15. It’s not a top 10 by any means, but by the end of the year it could be anywhere from 13-17 .

          • Danny Phillips 11 months ago

            No I don’t mean that.

          • Frittoman626 11 months ago

            Well you’re no baseball expert so I can care less what you think.

          • Jim Johnson 11 months ago

            How much less?

          • PileOfSandwich 11 months ago

            You do know “baseball experts” are wrong like 90% of the time, I think this dude (and the rest of us honestly) has as much merit as any of them.

          • asovermann 11 months ago

            The Yankees actually have a very solid system. Luis Severino is ranked in the top 50 and Judge is top 100. Guys like Clarkin/Jagielo both have high upside. The Yankees have also unloaded on the international market in the last two seasons signing numerous top teen prospects from Venezuela and the Dominican. It is by no means a bottom tier system such as the Angels system or the White Sox system.

          • PileOfSandwich 11 months ago

            Just, because most of the prospects are in low A, doesn’t make it a lower tier system. (This is really hard to have to defend the EVIL EMPIRE)

        • Riaaaaaa 11 months ago

          they wouldnt be that high on the system rankings for this season

  19. driftcat28 11 months ago

    No! Not for Jags! Awful idea, I pictured him as a cornerstone for future Yankee teams. He’s gonna be a stud

  20. That’s too much. What about Aaron Judge straight up? Lol

    • Frittoman626 11 months ago

      How about no, Judge has the potential to be the RF for the Yankees for years to come. I wouldn’t do Judge for Tyson Ross straight up either.

      • SDFriars 11 months ago

        It’s Tyson Ross…. and in what world would someone give up a frontline starter with 3 more years of control for an outfield prospect in A ball.

        • sdsny 11 months ago

          Glad you said something, I’d give up Aaron Judge for Tyson Ross in a heartbeat, lol.

        • Frittoman626 11 months ago

          In what world is Ross a front line starter? He’s having an excellent season and any team would love to see him on their team but he’s only had one above average year. Do it for 3-4 seasons and then we’ll talk. For all we know he could be having a fluke season.

          • sdsny 11 months ago

            Actually, he’s had 2. He was good last season as well. He was also developed by Oakland, and we know how good their pitchers are.

          • asovermann 11 months ago

            He wasn’t developed by Oakland, he was awful in Oakland. He’s been a 4.00 ERA pitcher outside of PetCo since coming to SD.

          • sdsny 11 months ago

            He was drafted, developed, and brought up by Oakland. I mean…that’s the definition of being developed, right?

          • asovermann 11 months ago

            Obviously they didn’t do much of a job developing him if he was terrible and traded for Andy Parrino and Andrew Werner.

          • sdsny 11 months ago

            That remains to be seen. He was an All-Star this year and he strikes out a bunch of guys. Almost 9 Ks per 9 IP.

          • asovermann 11 months ago

            I would say SD has played much more of a part in his development than Oakland did.

          • sdsny 11 months ago

            Doesn’t change the fact that the A’s brought him to the dance.

          • Frittoman626 11 months ago

            Playing in a pitchers ballpark. Heck, this season is the first season he’ll have a WAR over 2.

          • SDFriars 11 months ago

            Oh so it takes a full 3 seasons…. yet your so established on your opinion of Aaron Judge in High-A, perfect logic. Tyson is an All-Star thats has always had high strike out numbers and good velocity on his fastball. The past two seasons he has been putting it all together.

          • Frittoman626 11 months ago

            Yes, Ross is an all-star on a team that had 1 all-star. Heck, he’s not even the best pitcher on his team, I’d rather have Cashner over Ross.

          • SDFriars 11 months ago

            It ended up with two all-stars actually until they traded Street. Cashner is always injured. Tyson has the highest swing and miss rate on his slider of any pitch in all of baseball in 2014.

        • MB923 11 months ago

          Ross would look like a #4-#5 pitcher if his home games were in a hitters ballpark. 4.87 career Away ERA and 1.51 WHIP.

          • sdsny 11 months ago

            I don’t think the ballpark has anything to do with it. He doesn’t give up a ton of HRs, but for some reason on the road his K’s are way down. Maybe he’s just comfortable at home. Check out his splits, it’s really bizarre.

          • MB923 11 months ago

            If I was a pitcher and my home games were in a very pitcher friendly park, I’d be comfortable too.

          • sdsny 11 months ago

            Fair point, but you’re counting his years in Oakland too. He’s always been much better at home. Check out his first year in Oakland. Talk about splits.

          • MB923 11 months ago

            Of course i”m counting his years in Oakland, that’s a pitchers park. And his final year in Oakland was disastrous both Home and Away (and worse Away to not much of surprise)

          • sdsny 11 months ago

            But again, it’s not like he gives up a bunch more HR’s on the road compared to at home. He’s given up 10 all year, 7 on the road. That’s not much. It’s probably mental more than anything. Also, don’t forget the Padres are such a poor offensive team (as were the A’s while he was there) that he literally can’t give up anything if he wants a victory. Maybe the combination of that and the fact that other ballparks are much smaller contribute to him being too fine or something. I don’t know, it’s clearly something more than numbers.

          • MB923 11 months ago

            ” It’s probably mental more than anything.”

            Hehe, that wouldn’t go too well in NY. I guess your points are fair, but numbers don’t lie though.

      • I was being a bit facetious actually. Hence my “lol”. Rising super star.

      • I was being a bit facetious. Hence my “lol”. His prospect stock is rising like crazy.

  21. Riaaaaaa 11 months ago

    Jagielo was hurt this season and has struggled in his return, he isnt near the top of the system and I cant see why any team would want him in a trade. Clarkin was also hurt recently as well

  22. DerekJeterDan 11 months ago

    PLEASE do not trade Jagielo and Clarkin for Ian Kennedy.

  23. $2509879 11 months ago

    Clarkin is a San Diego kid, so it could be a good match, but I wouldn’t give a second guy as good as Jagielo in the deal.

  24. agureghian 11 months ago

    Clarkin has some value as a 19 yr old, Jagielo is putting up mediocre stats in A+ as a 22 yr old.

  25. sdsny 11 months ago

    De La Rosa would be interesting. He’s a few years older, but he’s having a good year for a bad Colorado team. Plus, he’s left-handed. Plus, he pitches in Coors Field.

    • MB923 11 months ago

      He also wouldn’t cost much since he’s a FA at the end of the year.

      • sdsny 11 months ago

        Certainly not as much as Kennedy. I’d prefer him over Kennedy regardless.

  26. Daniel 11 months ago

    NYY always hype up their prospects and rarely they succeed…. They are built by buying established players that’s it – see it other way if you convince yourself. Glad SD won’t receive an injured pitcher and an “elite” prospect batting 240…

    • asovermann 11 months ago

      Neither of these prospects are hyped up at all.

      • Danny Phillips 11 months ago

        Read below.

        • asovermann 11 months ago

          I don’t see more than one person talking about either Clarkin or Jagielo and all he stated was a fact (where they were ranked in the Yankee’s system).

      • Danny Phillips 11 months ago

        Read below.

      • Daniel 11 months ago

        Neither was Jesus Montero, Romine, Banuelos, Mason Williams, Heathcott, Sanchez, Austin, Almonte…. All elite and untouchable…. NYY org and media build them up to trade them… It’s not me saying it it’s a fact…. Just saying their development is not great and the 2 guys mentioned in this offer are most likely overrated just like most NYY prospects or any other big market team…

        • asovermann 11 months ago

          No Yankee fan I’ve ever talked to mentions either of these players. Luis Severino and Aaron Judge are very hyped, but their numbers speak for themselves.

        • MB923 11 months ago

          Nobody ever called Any of those guys untouchable except Montero.

    • Frittoman626 11 months ago

      Yeah, because we’ve rarely had prospects succeed. Betances, Warren, Nova, Phelps, Gardner, Robertson, have all become solid players. What about all the other former Yankee farmhands that have succeeded who are currently on other teams like Austin Jackson, Ian Kennedy, Tyler Clippard, Robinson Cano, Melky Cabrera, Jose Quintana, ect. Tell me again how they’ve never developed anything…

      • SDFriars 11 months ago

        Those are prospects that had some varying success but it pales in comparison to that of other organizations that pour money into drafting and development..

        • MB923 11 months ago

          Which is much easier to do for franchises who year after year fall below .500 and get top draft pick after top draft pick.

          • SDFriars 11 months ago

            Yeah like Boston and St. Louis never have winning records.

          • MB923 11 months ago

            Boston will likely have it’s 2nd losing season in 3 years, and where did I say Boston or St Louis don’t have great farms?

            I said it’s easier to do it when a team continuously stinks year after year (Mets, Marlins, Cubs etc.). I never said great teams can’t have great farms. It is well known that St. Louis has some of if not the best scouts in baseball as well.

            Boston and St. Louis also have had multiple 1st round picks the past 5 years. From 2010-2014, they’ve each had 13 first round picks.(some of which were supplemental 1st round picks). The Yankees have only had 6.

          • SDFriars 11 months ago

            Anyways the amatuer draft is only part of the battle, international signings and scouting minors and free agents… it goes on. Really when it comes down to it Yankees prospects get more attention and more limelight than most other smaller franchises in baseball. When they know what the people like they sell it to them. There is alot of Yankee fans. Truth be told.

          • MB923 11 months ago

            “Yankees prospects get more attention and more limelight than most other smaller franchises in baseball”

            Which makes sense when they play in the media capital of the world. If you’ve ever seen a postgame Yankee interview, every player is speaking into about 15 microphones/recorders.

          • SDFriars 11 months ago

            Granted. So the fact that that there prospects are more often talked about and hyped up is a valid point. Daniel never said that Padres prospects deserve more attention, he simply stated what you confirmed and said that he doesnt want your over hyped players that are 22 and hitting .240 in A ball.

        • Frittoman626 11 months ago

          And what team has benefited from it besides the Cardinals and Giants. Going to the playoffs is good and all, but what’s the point if you haven’t won a championship? Look at what happened to the Rays, they developed their players but only have one World Series appearances to show for it. Now they have a terrible farm system and Price will most likely be gone by this time next season, don’t you think the Rays would prefer to win a championship?

      • MB923 11 months ago

        Look, Yankee haters will never give Yankes credit for anything except “buying players”. Something apparently their teams never do because their players are all Pro Bono.

    • MB923 11 months ago

      Since 2000, the Padres have developed only ONE first round pick who has a career WAR of 4+ (Khalil Greene)

      Since 2000, the Yankees have developed 3 (Kennedy, Joba Chamberlain and Phil Hughes)

      • Daniel 11 months ago

        Exactly my point… SD farm system as it’s rated high it’s still not good…. But saying Yankees prospects are so good and not trade them is iffy to me…. Just to me…. Look at those guys numbers !

        • MB923 11 months ago

          Are you really implying that only Yankee fans say they don’t want to trade prospects? Do I have to tell you how many Mariner fans and Braves fans have done it when Upton was on the trading block 2 years ago and when Price was this year?

          I’m not saying the Yankees or their fans don’t overhype prospects, but I bet you can’t name me one fan base that doesn’t.

          • Daniel 11 months ago

            Not at all – we all do it as fans… We totally agree there !! And I also agree with trading prospects for established guys … Because they are just prospects…. All I wanted to say was that I hope Sd doesn’t trade Kennedy for the 2 guys the Yankees are refusing to send over… So as fans – we both agree on that…

          • MB923 11 months ago

            And I don’t want the Yankees to give up potential talent for a player who has disastrous numbers against the American League, so I can see why both of us don’t want our teams to do the trade.

  27. InvalidUserID 11 months ago

    IPK wasn’t even a top prospect for the Yankees and to trade one for him now is foolish.

    • Frittoman626 11 months ago

      He was ranked #45 in the Top 100 Prospects in 2008 by Baseball America, how was he never a top prospect for them?

  28. Kolukonu 11 months ago

    Kennedy is a better pitcher in the spacious Petco Park. I sincerely hope the Yanks don’t trade away 2 of their 1st rounders from last season for him.

  29. Rick 11 months ago

    Jagielo’s a bust .260’s last year, 240’s this year in low a ball and strikes out a ton!! Clarkin has promise, but he’s at least 3-4 years away. Padres will not see the fruits of this one, in a long time… if ever… poor move!!! Kennedy has been solid both home and away with similar stats… Petco overall hasn’t been a factor… Kennedy has actually pitched better on the road… check the numbers and compare…
    W/L. ERA
    Home: 3-5 4.18
    Road: 5-4 3.18

    • Frittoman626 11 months ago

      Yeah, because 1 year of professional ball makes a player a bust… He’s a power hitter, not a high batting average hitter. If he can play decent defense at 3rd and continue to hit for power there’s no reason why he can’t be a solid player for the Yankees beginning in 2016.

      • Rick 11 months ago

        The Padres need talent for a quality Major League Pitcher. They have had enough bad trades and enough bad offense already. They don’t need to waste a good pitcher on a class a flop that’ll probably never make it to the big leagues!! Jagielo has had 2 bad years by the way…

      • Rick 11 months ago

        Good luck on that one…

    • MB923 11 months ago

      How about that 4.34 Interleague ERA this year and his 5.65 Career Interleague ERA?

      Keep the National League pitcher in the National League. Yankees should not even consider him.

  30. escapingNihilism 11 months ago

    just take Colon’s money and be done with it. the Yanks will have every use for a $11M, 180IP, 4-ish ERA pitcher next year even after they dole out the bucks for Lester or Scherzer.

  31. East Coast Bias 11 months ago

    Horrible idea. Jag is the top ranked 3B in the system. First of all, we shouldn’t be dealing any infielder that makes the top 20 organization prospect list. I hope this isn’t a precursor to a Headley extension. I’d be okay with Hanley for 3B though..

    And Ian Clarkin, another first round pick from last year. Lefty that can touch 94 with a change and curve. You don’t trade these kinds of players. Especially when, as an organization, you are desperate for pitching.

    I don’t want IPK back in the Bronx. That is way too high of a price to pay. I really hope they do not make this deal.

  32. Mike1L 11 months ago

    The Yankees are making a mistake if they deal these two kids. They need to get younger and less expensive. De La Rosa is a free agent after this year, and it’s not that he’s a game-changer or a season changer for them. His strikeout rates are iffy at best, he’s never had one season in which he’s pitched more than 187 innings. Walk away from this. It’s not useful.

  33. Wander Guzman 11 months ago

    nice, trade sanchez and severino asap.

  34. snowbladerp14 11 months ago

    right handed non-closer reliever

  35. MB923 11 months ago

    Who would be a closer on many other teams.

  36. Anthonypaulb 11 months ago

    Setup man prob one of the most desired pitcher in baseball not a lot can do it and he’s the best now period

  37. sdsny 11 months ago

    I’d make him a closer on this team. I think he’s better than Robertson.

  38. Frittoman626 11 months ago

    Robertson has been very good this season. Take that Twins game where he gave up 5 ER and he would have better stats than Betances. Leave Robertson at closer.

  39. Alex Henry 11 months ago

    No top 10 but the guy has not fared so well in his few opportunities to close out game 1 save in 4 chances…say what you want best reliever imo should be a closer

  40. snowbladerp14 11 months ago

    whatever you have the best reliever in the game fine whatever really doesnt matter with the rest of your team being on the DL

  41. MB923 11 months ago

    I don’t understand how that helps your argument or how that takes away Betances’ value.

    And there are no relievers for the Yankees on the DL.

  42. sdsny 11 months ago

    Not knocking Robertson at all, nor am I suggesting he’s having a bad season. I’ve been happy with Robertson, but I think Betances being 3-4 years younger should be groomed for a closer role that he could have for quite some time.

  43. snowbladerp14 11 months ago

    i still dont think you are going to get an elite starting pitcher or prospect for a right handed relieve non closer. but he is a very good relief pitcher

  44. MB923 11 months ago

    On what site? All pre-season rankings I saw had them anywhere from 16-23

  45. MB923 11 months ago

    I never said Betances would bring back an elite starter Anywhere, but Kennedy has disastrous numbers against American League teams and I couldn’t expect pitching in Yankee Stadium to help improve that either.

  46. snowbladerp14 11 months ago

    we come to an agreement lol. but the way people were talking i thought they were expecting at least kennedy for betances and that just wont happen

  47. MB923 11 months ago

    Yep I know.

  48. MB923 11 months ago

    You’re excluding Holds which are basically Saves for setup men.

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