Yankees Exploring Trades For Ian Kennedy, Jorge De La Rosa

10:21pm: The Yankees are also having discussions with the Rockies regarding starter Jorge De La Rosa, Bowden tweets.

10:09pm: The Yankees do have interest in Kennedy, but do not intend to give up both Jagielo and Clarkin for him, reports Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com (Twitter links). Heyman adds that there is “nothing hot at all” between the clubs at present.

Bowden adds (via Twitter) that a team executive informs him that Cashman has had discussions with many teams with potentially available starters.

10:02pm: The Yankees and Padres are discussing a deal that would send starter Ian Kennedy to New York in exchange for prospects Eric Jagielo and Ian Clarkin, a source tells Jim Bowden of ESPN.com (Twitter link). We heard earlier today that San Diego was disinclined to deal Kennedy unless it received an overwhelming offer.

Kennedy has been solid for the Padres this year after coming over from the Diamondbacks mid-year last season. Over 135 1/3 innings, he owns a 3.66 ERA (3.10 FIP) with 9.5 K/9, 2.8 BB.9 and a career-best 42.3 percent ground-ball rate. The 29-year-old is making $6.1MM this year and will pass through arbitration one more time before hitting the open market.

Jagielo and Clarkin were both first-round selections last year for New York. Jagielo, a third baseman, has slashed .243/.321/.470 through 209 plate appearances this year at age 22. Clarkin, meanwhile, is a 19-year-old southpaw who has pitched to a 3.36 ERA through 61 2/3 innings at low-A, notching 9.9 K/9 against 2.9 BB/9.


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179 Comments on "Yankees Exploring Trades For Ian Kennedy, Jorge De La Rosa"


1 year 1 month ago

Just an awful idea.

Baloo
1 year 1 month ago

Yankees have no farm system…and they’re going to deal more prospects?

Jesus Gutierrez
1 year 1 month ago

The Angels are doing it and look at them…

Anthonypaulb
1 year 1 month ago

Really? Betances? Warren? Whitley? And we have severino judge and refsnyder almost ready to go?

snowbladerp14
1 year 1 month ago

betances warren and whitley arent worth all that much.

Anthonypaulb
1 year 1 month ago

Idc they’re helping us I’m not trying to get rid of them and betances is worth anything he’s the best reliever in baseball

Alex Henry
1 year 1 month ago

lol “best reliever in baseball” because he has had a great year? 1 great year not even a entire year yet.. come on let’s stay rational

snowbladerp14
1 year 1 month ago

i was just going to let the best reliever in baseball comment go

Anthonypaulb
1 year 1 month ago

Obviously I’m talking about now meaning this year let be serious !!!

snowbladerp14
1 year 1 month ago

Zach britton and darren oday are at least as good

Anthonypaulb
1 year 1 month ago

You jumped and started comparing and went away from your statement I’m not comparing

Jim Johnson
1 year 1 month ago

Britton is not as good. Britton will always be too defensive dependent. He’s good enough now, but that’s because he has that amazing infield behind him. Put him on the Yankees where those ground balls are getting hit to Roberts and Jeter, he isn’t as good.

Betances is dominant anywhere he goes.

snowbladerp14
1 year 1 month ago

i disagree with your statement. Just becasue the yankees ss and 2nd baseman are old and slow does not make a ground ball pitcher bad

Jim Johnson
1 year 1 month ago

Britton isn’t bad. He’s a pitcher that allows you to put the ball in play far more than any team should be comfortable with from their closer. But his GB% is ungodly high, so that balances it out. But that’s always going to be far more defensive reliant than a guy that just strikes out the side. When you allow the ball to be put in play, bad things are going to happen. So the key is not to allow the ball to be put in play, and Betances doesn’t.
I’m not completely against the idea of pitching to the park, pitching to the defense. But if you can just outright removes those from the equation, that’s even better.

snowbladerp14
1 year 1 month ago

i disagree with your statement. Just becasue the yankees ss and 2nd baseman are old and slow does not make a ground ball pitcher bad

Alex Henry
1 year 1 month ago

and you are basing off what he does not have the best ERA or xFIP as a reliever this year?

Anthonypaulb
1 year 1 month ago

Bro let’s get back to my first point he’s a Yankee farm system guy lol I’m not comparing just stating he’s a great pitcher at this moment his stats say it all

YanksFan4EverNamed_Nick
1 year 1 month ago

Yes he’s been great, show me some stats where he hasn’t been. He’s been an absolute stud.

Alex Henry
1 year 1 month ago

I said he has a had a great year but not the best reliever in baseball big difference there

MB923
1 year 1 month ago

An all star and arguably the best reliever in baseball this season isn’t worth much?

snowbladerp14
1 year 1 month ago

darren oday and zach britton are at least as good

sdsny
1 year 1 month ago

Ok…great? What does that have to do with Betances, Warren, and Whitley not being worth much?

jjs91
1 year 1 month ago

Britton has a lower WAR, higher ERA, higher FIP, higher xFIP and Whip than Betances…

jjs91
1 year 1 month ago

2.1 War for Betances is worth quite a bit…

MB923
1 year 1 month ago

And it’s just behind Kennedy’s 2.2 WAR

Michael Lynch
1 year 1 month ago

And the Padres are paying a lot more for that slight war edge. I would not trade Warren, Betances or Clarkin to aquire Kennedy and I hope the Yankees feel the same.

YanksFan4EverNamed_Nick
1 year 1 month ago

Betances isn’t worth much and jeter isn’t retiring this year right?

JacobyWanKenobi
1 year 1 month ago

Everybody loves to say that they have no system, but it’s definately middle of the pack. They’re just young and clumped A ball.

Jim Johnson
1 year 1 month ago

However good their system is, it doesn’t have a Gausman in it. If that is what the Rockies are asking for, the Yankees are going to have to give up a lot to equal it.

Dynasty22
1 year 1 month ago

Rockies won’t be getting an Gausman type from anybody for De La Rosa. It doesn’t hurt to try though.

Douglas Rau
1 year 1 month ago

Well, now that he’s in the majors, neither do the Orioles. That’s the thing about team farm systems–once the prospects are in the big league they can go from top of the rankings to the bottom very quickly. And before the criticism comes, I’m not saying “The Orioles don’t have any good prospects” or “Their farm system is barren”. I’m just saying things can change in that respective relatively quickly.

Jim Johnson
1 year 1 month ago

If you’re looking at it from a “Gausman version of a minor league in the system,” the Orioles have two pitchers that are in the Top 50 prospects. Law had both 10 and 11 last week or whenever he released his list. So the Orioles still do have a Gausman in the minors. The Yankees don’t have that in their minor league system.
If you are looking at it from a “big time prospect that has been in the majors for a short time and showed some serious upside,” the Yankees don’t have that either.

Douglas Rau
1 year 1 month ago

“Big time prospect that has been in the majors for a short time and showed some serious upside”–how is that NOT Betances? He was a big time prospect, short time in the majors, the upside speaks for itself. He’s not a starter but in terms of impact on a game, sometimes the biggest outs are recorded in the 6th/7th/8th innings and he could very well be a closer one of these seasons.

Jim Johnson
1 year 1 month ago

As you said, he’s not a starter. He’s a big time relief pitcher. Which you need. But if a team is out there looking for a Gausman, they aren’t settling for a guy that can only work one inning.

Douglas Rau
1 year 1 month ago

But in that moment, I wasn’t talking about trade value. I was just talking about “Big time prospect that has been in the majors for a short time and showed some serious upside”. But for the record, Betances was a starter throughout the minors. It was just that in the interest of getting him in the majors this season, they had him abandon 2 of his pitches of which he seemed not to control as well.

Jim Johnson
1 year 1 month ago

But it is within the context of a starter. If you want to say the Yankees have a great young bullpen arm that looks like he is going to dominate the 8th or 9th inning for years go come, I won’t argue with you about that. And he might be worth De La Rosa. If I was the Rockies, that would probably be good enough for me. But the Rockies think De La Rosa deserves a Gausman level player. That’s a top 10 to 20 level prospect in all of baseball, that is either still a prospect or fresh in the majors and showing some upside.

jjs91
1 year 1 month ago

They have an above average farm system, and will probably have 4 top 100 prospects at the end of the year.

MB923
1 year 1 month ago

I wouldn’t say it’s above average (yet). Unless it went from 20th to 10-15 in the mid season rankings.

YanksFan4EverNamed_Nick
1 year 1 month ago

It has and many prospects and progressing a lot differently then originally thought

jjs91
1 year 1 month ago

With Refsnyder’s and Severino’s jump I’d say they jumped at least 3 spots, i think BA had them at 18, 13 after the update with Tanaka.

Michael Lynch
1 year 1 month ago

Baseball America has them at 16. They actually have as much depth at positions prospects as they have had in along time, they are low on high tier starting pitching prospects.

MB923
1 year 1 month ago

“Yankees have no farm system”

Wow, never heard that one before!!

Jake
1 year 1 month ago

They signed a ton of international free agents, they can afford to deal prospects.

Seth Guttman
1 year 1 month ago

Because the Javier Vazquez reunion worked out so well

mwach1
1 year 1 month ago

infallible logic

mwach1
1 year 1 month ago

infallible logic

Andrew_Jackson_Pollock
1 year 1 month ago

This can’t be a real rumor, can it? Is this like Bowden’s Lee for Judge/Severino trade idea?

Christopher Rioux
1 year 1 month ago

Sometimes I wonder if Bowden’s “source” is just his own reflection in a mirror talking back to him.

MB923
1 year 1 month ago

Is Bowden the Chris Broussard of baseball?

hurley55
1 year 1 month ago

Kennedy going from Petco back to Yankee Stadium… Ummm yeah that’ll work out

griffey9988
1 year 1 month ago

Was going to say something along those lines so I’ll just second what you said.

Connor
1 year 1 month ago

He has a batter era on the road this year, try again

MB923
1 year 1 month ago

I’ll add in info, he has a career 5.54 ERA in Interleague, all of that while with Arizona and San Diego. And I know it was awhile back, but his ERA with the Yankees was over 6

1 year 1 month ago

Thankfully Heyman just posted this and allowed me to sleep peacefully tonight. “yankees are interested in kennedy but not in clarkin plus jagielo for kennedy.”

JacobyWanKenobi
1 year 1 month ago

No, stop. He’s a #3. Just stop.

Karkat
1 year 1 month ago

Yes, Yankees, trade away what prospects you have left to form an even more mediocre team. Yessssssss.

MB923
1 year 1 month ago

I don’t think adding Kennedy would make them mediocre this season.

Karkat
1 year 1 month ago

Can’t tell if self-deprecating or actual critical response.

MB923
1 year 1 month ago

Critical response. I wouldn’t do that trade personally though.

chicothekid
1 year 1 month ago

I don’t know. That does seem like a fair deal to me. The Yankees farm system isn’t the best, so they must overpay in terms of prospect rank, and Kennedy has been pretty good. Seems like a fair deal for both sides.

Sports Guy
1 year 1 month ago

I’m okay with giving up Jagielo but him + Clarkin, for a pitcher thats going to regress in YS3? Don’t do it Cashman

YankeeFan™
1 year 1 month ago

almost caught a heart attack no way ill give up that for Kennedy i understand for Tyson Ross but no way kennedy.

Jesus Gutierrez
1 year 1 month ago

you would need quite a lot more then that to get Ross

MB923
1 year 1 month ago

I wouldn’t want Ross anyway. He’d get killed in Yankee Stadium. His “good” stats are in large part to his home games at Oakland and San Diego

4.87 Career Away ERA and a 1.51 WHIP

Austin
1 year 1 month ago

If they were interested why wouldn’t they of made this one big trade with headley?

Disqus0011a
1 year 1 month ago

“they of.”

Austin
1 year 1 month ago

I ask a simple question and yet you tried to be funny by correcting my grammar?

Douglas Rau
1 year 1 month ago

Because in a division as close packed as the A.L. East is this year, every game counts. So maybe they were discussing a deal for both of them and they couldn’t agree on a price for both of them in terms of prospects but they obviously agreed on Headley + $1 mill for Solarte + DePaula so let’s get that done before one of those 3 gets hurt and then the Padres can continue to shop Kennedy around and the Yankees can continue to call other teams about available starting pitchers. Doesn’t mean they won’t come to an agreement on Kennedy later.

JJ
1 year 1 month ago

Kennedy for Jagielo and Clarkin .. NO WAY!

SDFriars
1 year 1 month ago

Thats a terrible trade for the Padres. Send away Ian Kennedy for two A ball players, one of whom is 22 and hitting .243. Hope not.

Sd_brain
1 year 1 month ago

Padres priority should be offense , however you can never have too much pitching. Hope they’re in on Judge or O’Brien.

Jesus Gutierrez
1 year 1 month ago

offense and maybe a GM

Frittoman626
1 year 1 month ago

I’d gladly give up O’Brien for Kennedy. Maybe they like Mason Williams or Tyler Austin and lesser pieces as well.

MB923
1 year 1 month ago

Mason Williams is no longer a top prospect. Judge is clearly their top OF prospect.

Sd_brain
1 year 1 month ago

Padres priority should be offense , however you can never have too much pitching. Hope they’re in on Judge or O’Brien.

brian310
1 year 1 month ago

Take Danks. He will cost less.

sdsny
1 year 1 month ago

He’ll cost less because he hasn’t been all that good this year. He’s pitching to a 4.35 ERA right now, and he’s given up 16 home runs. That number will go up in Yankee Stadium. Also, he walks more than 3 guys per 9 innings and has 7 wild pitches this year. Sounds like A.J. Burnett.

Doug
1 year 1 month ago

Danks also is owed $14 mil for the next two years, so Kennedy is the better option.

sdsny
1 year 1 month ago

It’s the Yankees, so I wasn’t really thinking about money, but you’re right haha.

sdsny
1 year 1 month ago

It’s the Yankees, so I wasn’t really thinking about money, but you’re right haha.

sdsny
1 year 1 month ago

These are highly rated prospects. I don’t know that I’d go that far for Ian Kennedy. If you’re gonna deplete the farm system, do so for somebody like Cole Hamels or, if possible, David Price. I wouldn’t mind Ian Kennedy at all, but you have to be careful.

Jesus Gutierrez
1 year 1 month ago

how high would you rate these prospects on a scale of 1-10

sdsny
1 year 1 month ago

They’re still very early in development, but you can’t look away from a 19-year old lefty. Probably a 6/10 for Jagielo, 7 for Clarkin. Jagielo’s disadvantage is that he’s already 22 and batting .246 in A ball.

PileOfSandwich
1 year 1 month ago

They are rated 4th and 7th on the team chart i was looking at.

Danny Phillips
1 year 1 month ago

Of a bottom tier system.

Frittoman626
1 year 1 month ago

You mean a system that could be Top 15. It’s not a top 10 by any means, but by the end of the year it could be anywhere from 13-17 .

Danny Phillips
1 year 1 month ago

No I don’t mean that.

Frittoman626
1 year 1 month ago

Well you’re no baseball expert so I can care less what you think.

Jim Johnson
1 year 1 month ago

How much less?

PileOfSandwich
1 year 1 month ago

You do know “baseball experts” are wrong like 90% of the time, I think this dude (and the rest of us honestly) has as much merit as any of them.

asovermann
1 year 1 month ago

The Yankees actually have a very solid system. Luis Severino is ranked in the top 50 and Judge is top 100. Guys like Clarkin/Jagielo both have high upside. The Yankees have also unloaded on the international market in the last two seasons signing numerous top teen prospects from Venezuela and the Dominican. It is by no means a bottom tier system such as the Angels system or the White Sox system.

PileOfSandwich
1 year 1 month ago

Just, because most of the prospects are in low A, doesn’t make it a lower tier system. (This is really hard to have to defend the EVIL EMPIRE)

Riaaaaaa
1 year 1 month ago

they wouldnt be that high on the system rankings for this season

driftcat28
1 year 1 month ago

No! Not for Jags! Awful idea, I pictured him as a cornerstone for future Yankee teams. He’s gonna be a stud

1 year 1 month ago

That’s too much. What about Aaron Judge straight up? Lol

Frittoman626
1 year 1 month ago

How about no, Judge has the potential to be the RF for the Yankees for years to come. I wouldn’t do Judge for Tyson Ross straight up either.

SDFriars
1 year 1 month ago

It’s Tyson Ross…. and in what world would someone give up a frontline starter with 3 more years of control for an outfield prospect in A ball.

sdsny
1 year 1 month ago

Glad you said something, I’d give up Aaron Judge for Tyson Ross in a heartbeat, lol.

SDFriars
1 year 1 month ago

As would any GM in baseball.

Frittoman626
1 year 1 month ago

In what world is Ross a front line starter? He’s having an excellent season and any team would love to see him on their team but he’s only had one above average year. Do it for 3-4 seasons and then we’ll talk. For all we know he could be having a fluke season.

sdsny
1 year 1 month ago

Actually, he’s had 2. He was good last season as well. He was also developed by Oakland, and we know how good their pitchers are.

asovermann
1 year 1 month ago

He wasn’t developed by Oakland, he was awful in Oakland. He’s been a 4.00 ERA pitcher outside of PetCo since coming to SD.

sdsny
1 year 1 month ago

He was drafted, developed, and brought up by Oakland. I mean…that’s the definition of being developed, right?

asovermann
1 year 1 month ago

Obviously they didn’t do much of a job developing him if he was terrible and traded for Andy Parrino and Andrew Werner.

sdsny
1 year 1 month ago

That remains to be seen. He was an All-Star this year and he strikes out a bunch of guys. Almost 9 Ks per 9 IP.

asovermann
1 year 1 month ago

I would say SD has played much more of a part in his development than Oakland did.

sdsny
1 year 1 month ago

Doesn’t change the fact that the A’s brought him to the dance.

Frittoman626
1 year 1 month ago

Playing in a pitchers ballpark. Heck, this season is the first season he’ll have a WAR over 2.

SDFriars
1 year 1 month ago

Oh so it takes a full 3 seasons…. yet your so established on your opinion of Aaron Judge in High-A, perfect logic. Tyson is an All-Star thats has always had high strike out numbers and good velocity on his fastball. The past two seasons he has been putting it all together.

Frittoman626
1 year 1 month ago

Yes, Ross is an all-star on a team that had 1 all-star. Heck, he’s not even the best pitcher on his team, I’d rather have Cashner over Ross.

SDFriars
1 year 1 month ago

It ended up with two all-stars actually until they traded Street. Cashner is always injured. Tyson has the highest swing and miss rate on his slider of any pitch in all of baseball in 2014.

MB923
1 year 1 month ago

Ross would look like a #4-#5 pitcher if his home games were in a hitters ballpark. 4.87 career Away ERA and 1.51 WHIP.

sdsny
1 year 1 month ago

I don’t think the ballpark has anything to do with it. He doesn’t give up a ton of HRs, but for some reason on the road his K’s are way down. Maybe he’s just comfortable at home. Check out his splits, it’s really bizarre.

MB923
1 year 1 month ago

If I was a pitcher and my home games were in a very pitcher friendly park, I’d be comfortable too.

sdsny
1 year 1 month ago

Fair point, but you’re counting his years in Oakland too. He’s always been much better at home. Check out his first year in Oakland. Talk about splits.

MB923
1 year 1 month ago

Of course i”m counting his years in Oakland, that’s a pitchers park. And his final year in Oakland was disastrous both Home and Away (and worse Away to not much of surprise)

sdsny
1 year 1 month ago

But again, it’s not like he gives up a bunch more HR’s on the road compared to at home. He’s given up 10 all year, 7 on the road. That’s not much. It’s probably mental more than anything. Also, don’t forget the Padres are such a poor offensive team (as were the A’s while he was there) that he literally can’t give up anything if he wants a victory. Maybe the combination of that and the fact that other ballparks are much smaller contribute to him being too fine or something. I don’t know, it’s clearly something more than numbers.

MB923
1 year 1 month ago

” It’s probably mental more than anything.”

Hehe, that wouldn’t go too well in NY. I guess your points are fair, but numbers don’t lie though.

1 year 1 month ago

I was being a bit facetious actually. Hence my “lol”. Rising super star.

1 year 1 month ago

I was being a bit facetious. Hence my “lol”. His prospect stock is rising like crazy.