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By Tim Dierkes [November 8, 2007 at 3:12pm CST]
I'm going to start up a catch-all Odds and Ends post for smaller rumors and notes today. Refresh to see it grow.
- A reader emailed me to tell me that Buster Olney said on XM Radio recently that there are talks of the Twins going after Scott Rolen. These reports can be tough to confirm, but there you go. UPDATE: Joe Christensen squashes this one.
- Mark Feinsand doesn't think Epstein is keen on giving Mike Lowell even a three-year contract. He might get five on the open market. UPDATE: The Red Sox apparently have a three-year offer out to him, and he's still mulling it over.
- The White Sox inquired about Bill Hall, but Kenny Williams and Doug Melvin couldn't find a match.
- Baseball America weighs in on the Brad Lidge trade. BP's Nate Silver gives his opinion here and here. He thinks the Phillies made a mistake.
- The Astros have contacted Jeremy Affeldt's agent. Also, Jim Molony speculates in this piece that speedy Josh Anderson could be expendable because of the Michael Bourn addition.
- Back to where it all began: the Dodgers have signed Chan Ho Park. No need for more starters now!
- Andy Pettitte hopes to tell the Yankees whether he'll play by the New Year. Also, Ken Davidoff notes that the Yanks would prefer to trade Hideki Matsui over Johnny Damon, but Godzilla's full no-trade clause would be the problem.
- Theo Epstein let Scott Boras pitch his entire client list last night, A-Rod included. There's a very slight chance the Red Sox sign Eric Gagne, and a contract extension for Jason Varitek may have been discussed. Also I hear Boras did the hard sell on Bruce Chen. Just kidding. UPDATE: That slight chance for Gagne just went away, as he'll be closing according to Boras.
- Mark Shapiro is preparing a contract extension offer for C.C. Sabathia; he'll have to run it by the Dolans first. No surprise there. Paul Hoynes notes that Sabathia gets an extra $2MM for '08 if he wins the '07 Cy Young. Shapiro, by the way, would listen to offers on any player. I get the feeling the Indians could come from out of nowhere and do something big this winter.
- Could the Tigers send Placido Polanco to the Mets? Mark Healey suggests it.
- The Giants included a vesting option for 2009 in Omar Vizquel's deal. McCovey Chronicles weighs in.
As far as odds and ends, Buster Olney says the Cardinals and Twins have discussed swapping Scott Rolen for pitching.
Bernie Mikalaz on his Bernie's Press Box said that Cardinals GM John Mozeliak has, in fact, floated Scott Rolen out there as availible to be traded to gauge interest.
From there, he will see if any deals 'make sense'.
Personally, with all of that, I'd put the odds of Scott Rolen returning at slim and none and Slim just rode out of town.
Posted by: HL | November 08, 2007 at 02:20 PM
I don't get it. Hideki Matsui is so much better than Johnny Damon.
Posted by: John Peterson | November 08, 2007 at 02:46 PM
according to espn rumor central, rolen to the twins talks are going on.
Posted by: trober81 | November 08, 2007 at 02:59 PM
I'd get real sad seeing Ol' peanut head in a mets uni.
Posted by: no funny hats | November 08, 2007 at 03:01 PM
Just go three years on Lowell...the Sox can afford to have a situation three years from now where Lowell rides the bench or they pay half his salary for someone to take him if he completely falls apart after year two.
Makes me wonder if he goes and ARod and Cabrera end up elsewhere aznd we end up with Crede for one year... if they are looking at Texeira next year and moving Youk to 3b. Texeira is always assumed to go back to Baltimore but w/the sate of that franchise and Boston not being too far away. Of coure this would be plan D if it was true I hope.
Posted by: Jared78 | November 08, 2007 at 03:15 PM
"I don't get it. Hideki Matsui is so much better than Johnny Damon."
Yes. There is no way they are more inclined to trade Matsui. This is just posturing, I suspect they my be in talks over Damon right now.
Posted by: Mr_Punch | November 08, 2007 at 03:23 PM
Wow... I've heard grumblings about trading Delgado, and I'm totally fine with that, but I never imagined getting a guy like Polanco back, who could actually start for us. A contact hitter with a high average and doesn't strike out.... it's like what PLD was supposed to be for us.
Reyes
Polanco
Wright
A-Rod
Beltran
Alou
Milledge
Castro/Torrealba/PLD
I like it.
Posted by: JerseyMetFan | November 08, 2007 at 03:25 PM
Idk Matsui is a good hitter, but he is a bad fielder, and for long stretches during this season, he was really horrible. When you take into account that the return price would be much better for Matsui, and you dont need to replace your LF if you do trade him, it makes sense to me. Damon is a better fielder (minus the arm obviously, but Godzilla doesnt exactly have a hose.) You also get to keep your leadoff guy, who, despite a below average 07, is still a solid leadoff hitter with playoff and worldseries experience. Makes plenty of sense to me.
Posted by: nrmax88 | November 08, 2007 at 03:32 PM
Huh??
Posted by: Aduncaroo | November 08, 2007 at 03:37 PM
Did the Met's sign A-Rod?
Posted by: bjsguess | November 08, 2007 at 03:37 PM
Mark Feinsand needs to pay more attention before he posts articles. The Red Sox have already offered Lowell a 3-year deal:
http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/baseball/red_sox/view.bg?articleid=1043481
Posted by: metafrantic | November 08, 2007 at 03:40 PM
Delgado also posted a 900 OPS I believe 9 straight seasons before 2007. Sure, maybe he is declining, but I hate to sell low and I like to think that his first born baby and his offseason arm surgery might have had a little to do with his off year. That said, if you can get Polanco and dump some salary you have to do that dont you? Then you have an opening at a corner infield spot and A-Rod becomes that much more of a possibility.
Posted by: nrmax88 | November 08, 2007 at 03:43 PM
Pretty much any team who gets A-Rod won't be doing much else. I wouldn't count on the Mets to get Polanco OR A-Rod, let alone both.
Posted by: FineHamAbounds | November 08, 2007 at 03:50 PM
Thats cool, fortunately for me, that post makes little to no sense. How does acquiring Polanco ad dumping salary bring the Mets out of the A-rod sweepstakes? IT is just retarded. It would open a position for him, and it would free up a small amount of money.
Just an incredibly bad post.
Posted by: nrmax88 | November 08, 2007 at 03:59 PM
So what youre saying is, the team that signs A-rod is not allowed, in any way shape or form, to try and improve the rest of their team? Is this a new rule or something?
It is like saying, if a team trades for Miguel Cabrera, then they cant look to improve the bullpen. They are not related and one thing has really nothing to do with the other.
Posted by: nrmax88 | November 08, 2007 at 04:01 PM
Why would the Tigers trade Polonco for a declining player who can't even play defense at 1st (not a position of need for the Tigers-LF, pitching, 3B)? Polonco is one of their best players, and the only way they would trade him is if they get somebody *better* than him, especially if they pitch. That means that the Mets would have to give up somebody like Maine, Reyes, Beltran, or Wright (and Polonco would have to be part of a package for the latter 3) This rumor is garbage because the Mets would never give up what the Tigers would demand in return for Polonco (or for that matter Guillen as that "source" mentions).
Posted by: jadefalcon | November 08, 2007 at 04:03 PM
Polanco is a goodplayer, but its not like the Tigers cant use a power bat at frst base. Like I said, I think it was 9 years in a row that Delgado posted an OPS of 900 or more. In 2007, he had a down year, but he also had just had his first kid and was coming off a surgery and was not 100 percent. He finally started to heatup in September, before taking a pitch off his hand and missing the rest of the year. Polanco is a good player, but if you have Guillen who can move over there and you have a lack of power at 1B, its something you could think about.
Posted by: nrmax88 | November 08, 2007 at 04:17 PM
no way the tigers do that. polanco fits perfectly in our offense and plays great defense. like jadefalcon said, 1st base isn't even a position of need. the only way i see it happening is if we get really strong relief pitching in return.
Posted by: mckeetho | November 08, 2007 at 05:01 PM
"That means that the Mets would have to give up somebody like Maine, Reyes, Beltran, or Wright (and Polonco would have to be part of a package for the latter 3)"
Put down the bong if you think just Polanco would net you Maine.
Posted by: JerseyMetFan | November 08, 2007 at 10:00 PM
I didn't say he would net Maine asshat. I said that that's what the Tigers would demand.
Posted by: jadefalcon | November 08, 2007 at 10:43 PM
Matsui would seem like a good fit for the Cubs, but I'd just assume sign The Fuk Dome and not give up anything in a trade.
Posted by: Teetz | November 08, 2007 at 10:51 PM
"That means that the Mets would have to give up somebody like Maine, Reyes, Beltran, or Wright (and Polonco would have to be part of a package for the latter 3)"
Asshat... what are you, 7?
Anyway, if you are competent enough to realize that Polanco himself will not get you Reyes or Wright, I'd hope you would realize that he won't get you Maine either. HOPEFULLY the O's aren't stupid enough to ask for Maine without packaging Polanco with a lot more.
Posted by: JerseyMetFan | November 09, 2007 at 05:58 AM
As I told Mark on the site from which this came, I see no way that the Tigers deal Polanco for Delgado and move Guillen to 2b. The Detroit press has been making a big deal about Renteria and Polanco being buddies, Polanco is a great defensive player with more than adequate offense, at a position where there is a lack of both in MLB right now. Guillen doesn't have the range to play his natural position (SS) let alone to learn a position that requires as much if not more range (2b). I can maybe see them dealing Guillen for Delgado and Heileman, but no way do they do this trade straight up.
Posted by: leuchtman | November 09, 2007 at 12:07 PM
The Mets dont want Guillen, believe me. If he were going to play first for them, they would just keep Delgado, who is already a first baseman. There is no chance they trade for him to play second. Willie wont have a shitty defensive 2B, he wants a speedy great glove guy kinda like he was. Thats why Gotay didnt get a shot even though he was raking against righties. His defense was a joke.
Posted by: nrmax88 | November 09, 2007 at 01:58 PM
the detroit tigers are 100% sure with their infield. we will not trade away polanco! he is the most important part of our lineup...hopefully this will stop these rumors
Posted by: dtiger5 | November 12, 2007 at 03:01 PM