A Brief Rumor Hiatus

NOOOOOO TIM!! DONT LEAVE US UNINFORMED! WHY GOD WHY!!

You mean that I actually have to work now?!?

From Rotoworld:

The Boston Herald reports that the A’s and Diamondbacks have had constructive talks about a deal which would send Dan Haren to Arizona and Conor Jackson and Carlos Gonzalez along with two more players to Oakland.
The A's wouldn't get the center fielder they want, but a package fronted by Jackson and Gonzalez would be very good. Jackson and Daric Barton would be paired as a first base/DH combination in Oakland, while Gonzalez could step into an outfield corner in 2009. If the Diamondbacks trade Jackson, they could then re-sign Tony Clark to play first base.
Source: Boston Herald

JClay that was already on the site

Cyborg, yes.

Tim may need a 2nd week off after the effort he's putting in here.

Tim you've been doing a phenomenal job with the site these last couple of days keeping up with the rumors. I couldn't be more grateful.

Yeah, I really don't feel like working today. He needs to hurry up. lol.

prove it shamrockmarc, we need the proof for that please

Yankee fans need to realize that Melky sucks. Hughes is a stud but hes not worth Lester/Masterson/Lowrie unless the Yanks pony up another decent prospect or 2

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20071204&content_id=2316936&vkey=hotstove2007&fext=.jsp

Maybe I missed this on the site, if so, sorry for the repetition...

Nats acquire Tyler Clippard for reliever Jonathan Albaladejo.

the twins went with a deal that didnt involve bucholtz or elesbury, when hughes and melky cabrara was on the table, damn, i think the twins made a mistake.

also great job tim

Sweeny Murti, WFAN's Yankees beat reporter was just on Mike and the Mad Dog radio show and said the Yanks believe Santana is going to the red Sox. he said talks now turning for the Yanks going after Haren.

I think it's insane that Tim actually posted his 30-minute hiatus as news. He's definitely more machine than flesh.

I don't think the trade has happened yet... Why wouldn't Minnesota just wait? There is plenty of time to get a deal done, and I'm sure they'd rather get a package centering around Phil Hughes over Jon Lester... And what's with Lester anyway? Am I missing something about him? Doesn't he project to like a #3 starter at best?

Said it in the Johan thread, but figured I would repeat it here since its been mentioned:

About two weeks ago the Yankees went to the Twins about Johan ~ he wasn’t available. Now after its learned that they might be having a hard time resigning him, the Yankees were back at the door with more inquires. After a few days they have become impatient though, and that impatience is just about to lead to a previously uninterested BoSox team ending up with the best pitcher in baseball. Yanks want him, can’t be patient for even 1 week, and end up sending him to the BoSox because of it. I must say, pretty interesting way of conducting business on Hank and his Hank’ees part…

Philly AM sports talk is 610-WIP (and not the most reliable source in the world)...

So basically you are confirming the Santana trade from a friend of friend who heard it on an unreliable radio station. Seems logical.

zippy it comes from a source that has given me info earlier than other sources prior and has been correct so i'm going with it. but apparently in TX they've heard the same ZIPPY.

I just took a break from work to grab a bite to eat, and I heard that Santana to Boston is official...according to some guys (Tom, John and the Dawgs)...on sports radio talk 1324 AM here in Texas

ESPN has nothing, Yahoo! sports has nothing, Sports Illustrated has nothing. I am hesitant to believe what some radio stations have reported. How would these Texas/Philly radio sources get the info before the national networks? Not saying there is no way it's true, but until I see some major sources confirm it, it's still a rumor.

So what would the package necessary to pry Bedard from the O's become after Santanna is signed?
Bedard had a 3.16, 221 Ks, and pitched 182 innings, is 24 and makes only 3.5million over the next two years to Johan's 3.33, 219 IP, 235 Ks, 28, making 13 next year and then 20+ for whatever many years

i hate to say it but i have to agree with Lezard, until it is broadcast on a national circuit that we can all read, we have to still treat this as a rumor still

we all know you can't believe anything ESPN says...Les Miles going to Michigan...total B.S. um 12:50 EST equates to 11:50 central time. It's now 1:05pm here

thanks meta

well, im from boston, so i have to agree with Gammons for the time being, although i hope something materialized after that article was finished. i also hope they take the package of four guys, that would be wicked pisser

jdouble777, Bedard is 28, not 24; his birthday is March 5, 1979. Also, he's got 2 years of arbitration left, but considering the year he just had he's due a huge raise from the 3.5m he made in 2007. He'll probably earn at least $8m next year.

I can honestly 100% tell you the Santana deal is NOT finalized. The Twins have not yet made their decision.

Those of you know know me know the value of this guarantee, I apologize to those who I haven't yet met because I can't offer you any guarantee about it. But at least feel confident that this deal IS NOT finalized.

Would it make sense that the Twins would call the Yankees and see if they have a last minute offer? Surly Santana is worth more than Austin Jackson, especially if the Sox are in position to get Johan.

Redsoxnation, I didn't say that badgermann did

onley was just on the radio ~ says the two sides are still talking but it seems really near to being a done deal.

He also says that Pettitte saying he would pitch in 2008 is a big reason the Yanks might be backing off. Would also lead people to believe they would back off other big name SPers as well I imagine.

I really don't get the whole "backing off because Pettitte came back" idea. The Yanks still "need" an ace, and that "need" is made that much more "glaring" to their fanbase if the Sox get Santana. It's just funny to watch a team that refuses to accept rebuilding and would instead like to get themselves back in the situation where they deplete their farm system for expensive stars.

STORY UPDATED 2:03PM, EST:

"Johan Santana's agent, Peter Greenberg indicated moments ago that he has not begun contract negotiations with any team at this stage, an indication a deal between Boston and the Twins might still have a ways to go.

Major League sources have also indicated there have been no discussions between the Twins and Red Sox yet today, though talks are planned later in the day. The medical information the Twins sought on Jon Lester was simply "due diligence" according to one official, and that nothing was imminent with the Twins-Red Sox, though that could change rapidly after their meeting later today.

Greenberg remains a key to the deal because the Sox have to agree on a multi-year deal with Santana in order for him to waive his full no-trade clause."

Source: http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2007/12/santana_talks_l.html

According to a poster at "Sons of Sam Horn", ESPN's Buster Olney is on the radio now commenting on the Sox-Twins talks. The following is a a paraphrasing provided by the said poster...

- Twins and Red Sox are meeting as we speak, expected to pick Lester OR Ellsbury-centered package.
- Twins "like Ellsbury a lot", but some people in the organization want to get an ML-ready pitcher back in the deal.
- Red Sox "very confident" they will be able to work out long-term deal with Santana.

dchess, that must be embarrassing. When you call someone out for being illiterate and you misspell guarantee. Check a dictionary.

Bedard post 10.63 Ks per 9 innings, Johan just posted his worst ERA of his career and has a ton of innings on his arm

Bedard has never had a k/9 better than 8 above A ball, until this year. He's always been over 3 BB/9, aside from this year (2.82). And never lower than 8.8 hits/9, aside from this year (6.97). This was his career year by far. He beat his 90% PECOTA prediction by a ton, especially K/9.