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Cardinals Rumors: Rolen, Fogg, Lee, Millwood
UPDATE, 12-5-07 at 1:55pm: Heyman says the impasse between the Cards and Brewers in the Rolen talks was the second player coming over with Chris Capuano. He thinks the two teams will revisit these discussions in the future.
FROM 12-5-07 at 7:29am:
As usual, Joe Strauss of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch has all the insight into the Cardinals' situation.
- It doesn't look like Scott Rolen is going anywhere before the Meetings end, and GM John Mozeliak may have to start the season with him. The talks with the Brewers were disheartening, apparently. The Cards don't think there should be a discount. There is a glimmer of hope in that Mozeliak may talk again with the Dodgers about Rolen today.
- On the starting pitching front, the Cardinals are being realistic. That means they're looking into signing Josh Fogg. Fogg will probably get a three-year, $21MM deal or so. Other starters on the radar include Cliff Lee and a new name, Kevin Millwood. Millwood will earn $8.5MM in '08, $11MM in '09, and $12MM in '10. He has a limited no-trade clause, and the club may be able to void the deal after '09 if he misses certain innings targets.
- Seems odd that the Cards are pursuing guys like the above but are willing to deal Anthony Reyes. As we learned yesterday, the Indians and Padres like the young hurler. The Phillies have coveted him for a while as well.
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Its so obvious - Reyes for Eaton. Phils could eat some $$$ and both sides could throw in propsects to even things out a little.
Eaton would do better in that ballpark and is cheaper relative to the drech out there at $8m per...
Posted by: steveh | December 05, 2007 at 07:32 AM
Why would anyone give Josh Fogg 3/21? Id much rather keep Reyes then give that type of money to Fogg or Lohse or any of these guys. Am I in the minority in this thinking?
Posted by: vladett | December 05, 2007 at 07:35 AM
Who are the Cardinals willing to give up for a decent SP?
Posted by: jessethebody | December 05, 2007 at 07:45 AM
re: jessethebody, everything i read cites their OF depth and bullpen depth plus reyes. If we don't trade Rolen I won't be sad, I would like to see what he can do, plus the defense will always be there. I mean this guy was close to MVP in 04. DAMN YOU HEE SEOP CHOI!!!
Posted by: StLknows | December 05, 2007 at 08:52 AM
Choi might be the most valuable cub in the last 10 years. He hurts Rolen for years and then we trade him straight up for Derrek Lee!?!?? I love that guy.
Posted by: Aduncaroo | December 05, 2007 at 08:56 AM
I don't understand the Cardinals obsession with old pitchers. Do they think that they can contend now?
Posted by: drzimo | December 05, 2007 at 02:05 PM
drzimo, I'm wondering the same thing. I'm a die-hard Cards fan and I'm wondering why in the hell we're considering signing Josh Fogg. I see another Kip Wells situation and God knows that's all we need.
Posted by: trooper2 | December 05, 2007 at 02:07 PM
This is apparently the price a team pays for neglecting the farm system for so long.
Posted by: coryjwilson | December 05, 2007 at 02:20 PM
@Coryjwilson, no this is what the team pays for having Walt Jocketty as our GM for so long...
Posted by: melharts | December 05, 2007 at 03:47 PM
"Its so obvious - Reyes for Eaton. Phils could eat some $$$ and both sides could throw in propsects to even things out a little.
Eaton would do better in that ballpark and is cheaper relative to the drech out there at $8m per..."
That's a joke.. Adam Eaton was one of the worst if not the worst starter in baseball last season. Anthony Reyes sucked hard last year too but at least he's cheap, young and still has potential. That'd be one of the worst deals I've ever heard.
And coryjwilson, the reason that the farm system was negected for so long was because of Walt Jocketty. The guy essentially depended on trades and free agency to build his team, practically no homegrown players other than Pujols and Duncan. Sorry Cardinal fans but your team is gonna be bad for a while. There are just too many holes to fill and no young guys to fill 'em. And no, Josh Fogg wont save the day.
Posted by: scribbletone | December 05, 2007 at 04:48 PM
Jocketty didn't run the minor league system; the Cardinal organization has had at least three different people (and maybe four) in charge of draft/development during Walt's tenure, none of whom produced results. One might argue that Walt was influential in determining who was put in charge of that area but blaming Walt outright is a misnomer.
Walt Jocketty built a successful team over the past decade in spite of a pisspoor minor league system, and that's to his credit.
Posted by: Devlsh | December 05, 2007 at 05:14 PM
Walt also made some piss poor trades. Especially, for Mulder. Of course, Walt didn't oversee the farm system but he drained it.
Posted by: trooper2 | December 05, 2007 at 05:19 PM
the cards actually have good prospects. i want tejada
Posted by: brad91 | December 05, 2007 at 06:12 PM
"practically no homegrown players other than Pujols " I'm a Cubs fan...but man...I wish my farm system was that bad.
The cards have 1 blue chip (Rasmus) and Anderson is a top 5 catching prospect in the league...probably. Their system isn't good...but it could be worse. Jocketty was a good GM...he wasn't great with the farm though. Trading Haren will probably haunt him for a long time. Other than that trade though, I can't think of another real bad one.
Posted by: Aduncaroo | December 05, 2007 at 07:19 PM
Aduncaroo, if you were implying that the Cubs farm system is worse than the Cardinals I would have to disagree. We got a blue chipper of our own now in Vitters, as well as a decent amount of other good young guys in Tony Thomas, Tyler Colvin, Jose Ceda, Donald Veal, Jeff Samardzija, and plus the Cubs have a ton of good young guys already on their roster in Pie, Hill, Marmol, Soto, Murton, Marshall, Gallagher, Hart, Cedeno, and Patterson.
Posted by: scribbletone | December 05, 2007 at 08:34 PM