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Mark Prior Rumors: Astros, Cardinals
More info coming in on Mark Prior, who's starting to seem like a hot commodity. I can see how teams find him tantalizing, though a decent half-season from him is probably the upside.
The Astros have an offer out to Prior; throwing out tons of early offers seems to be Ed Wade's style this winter. Wade says the expectation is for Prior to be ready by late May; you can easily push that back a month if you want to be realistic. The 'Stros will also watch Kris Benson throw. That means only two of the ten clubs interested in Benson remain unknown.
Another NL Central team may have an eye on Prior. MLB.com's Matthew Leach says Prior is on the Cardinals' radar. You might think the Cardinals already have enough injury risk in the rotation. But as Larry Borowsky notes, the Edmonds trade may have left the team with enough money for one innings eating starter and one wild card like Prior.
By the way, it doesn't appear the Mariners are interested in Prior.
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I could really see this being a cards type move. I mean, look at how carpenter worked out for them, and they do seem to take risks on injured pithers. It would make sense for the cards to make this type of move, and could be motivation to stick it to the cubs lata on in the year.
Posted by: bravesbeast | December 17, 2007 at 08:43 PM
yes I agree, STICK IT TO THE CUBS, RUB IT IN THEIR FAT FACE. just joking guys.
Posted by: ranholland | December 17, 2007 at 08:50 PM
That would really piss Cubs fans off - seeing Prior coming back strong and pitching well for the Cards. Even if it's a 100 to 1 shot that it would actually work out, i say go for it just for that off chance to stick it to the cubbies.
Posted by: stlredbirds | December 17, 2007 at 08:52 PM
This wouldn't surprise me at all, think about how many players have went from either the Cardinals to the Cubs or the Cubs to the Cardinals. Most recent one that comes to mind is either Izturis or Marquis this last year.
Posted by: DLadd813 | December 17, 2007 at 09:15 PM
As an ex Cub I don't think Prior would go to the Cardinals, because he knows the Cubs "own" the Cardinals.
Posted by: cachhubguy | December 17, 2007 at 09:18 PM
The Cardinal's fans deserve a better fat than has befallen them recently. How can a team fall so far so fast? The farm system hasn't been known for depth, but this team sure got old fast. This just doesn't seem like the offseason to add pitching, and they don't have the young players to make a deal for any. Why not take a lark on Prior? He can't hurt them this season.
Posted by: coryjwilson | December 17, 2007 at 09:19 PM
I find your "sCrubs" owning the RedBirds comment totally laughable...moreover from an "ex sCrub".
Posted by: duckhunteresq | December 17, 2007 at 09:52 PM
How laughable is a 32-19 record against St. Louis the last three seasons? A .627 winning percentage would mean 101 wins over the course of a season.
Posted by: CubFan81 | December 17, 2007 at 10:05 PM
"Over the course of a season" is exactly the point. You have to finish the race to be able to claim the victory, which is the one thing the boy has never been able to do.
Posted by: duckhunteresq | December 17, 2007 at 10:11 PM
"How laughable is a 32-19 record against St. Louis the last three seasons? A .627 winning percentage would mean 101 wins over the course of a season"
How many World Series trophies has that .627 winning percentage versus the Cardinal produced in the last 3 years?
Posted by: zaedbo | December 17, 2007 at 10:22 PM
I say this with a lot of love for the Cubs, but the Cards are the team they wish they could have been historically. There's not one reason outside of sheer ambivilance that the Cubs haven't had a winner at Wrigley Field yet. That's sad. Not one single World Series has been won by the home team at Wrigley Field. Wrigley Fieldmy be beautiful and whatever, but the place has been a curse because management has been historically happy to just let the place fill up without regard to on field product. St. Louis fans are smart fans by and large. I really don't think they'd take a century of losing. I'm guessing that Redbird front office is anxious to get a winner back on the field because that's what they demand in St. Louis. When the Cubs fans start demanding a winner just maybe they'll be a winner in Chicago.
Posted by: coryjwilson | December 17, 2007 at 11:25 PM
Prior to the cards, no thanks...Please! Let's get better not stupider...lol
Posted by: zebra | December 17, 2007 at 11:29 PM
Prior will never be a cardinal and we cards fans should be very greatful!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: zebra | December 17, 2007 at 11:40 PM
coryjwilson,
Glad you snuck in that last World Series, because the Cardinals are now in long term decline, while the Cubs have the foundation, cash, and FAN support to be on the upswing for a while. 32-19 against the Cards is awesome, and I hope that continues this year.
Posted by: Cubs World Champs please B4 I die | December 18, 2007 at 06:20 AM
dude your name says it all "Cubs World Champs please B4 I die"
Posted by: muidomi84 | December 18, 2007 at 06:52 AM
With all due respect for the Cards, Cubs games are more fun in July than Busch was when they won the world series. I live in St. Louis, I know.
Posted by: Aduncaroo | December 18, 2007 at 09:08 AM
"St. Louis fans are smart fans by and large."
Have you been to Busch? More red necks and need for a dental plan than you will find at a Nascar event. Seriously.
Posted by: Aduncaroo | December 18, 2007 at 09:09 AM
Yeah, I know all about the history of baseball. The Cubs own the Cardinals over the last three years. And they will own them again in 2008.
Posted by: cachhubguy | December 18, 2007 at 09:10 AM
Fun fact, its not just the last three years. The Cubs lead the all time series as well. Still, as already stated, the Cards got the rings. I love the rivalry, its my favorite in sports.
Posted by: Aduncaroo | December 18, 2007 at 09:32 AM
Cards could go winless vs. the Cubs for all I care. The Cardinals will always be a winning FRANCHISE. The Cubs will always be lovable LOSERS.
Posted by: inthecards | December 18, 2007 at 09:36 AM
inthecards,
You are in need of a dental plan, aren't you? Come on, you can admit it...
Posted by: Aduncaroo | December 18, 2007 at 10:39 AM
Just like a Cubs fan to duck the reality and issue insults instead.
Posted by: inthecards | December 18, 2007 at 11:08 AM
"Still, as already stated, the Cards got the rings. I love the rivalry, its my favorite in sports."
Does that sound like "ducking reality?" The reality is that the Cubs do have the all time advantage over the cards, and have been killing them the last three years. The reality is that the Cards have the rings, and I can't deny that. But I'd still rather be a Cubs fan any day. The Cubs may want the rings that the Cards have, but the Cards want the intangibles that go along with being the Cubs, and they are trying to do things like build "ballpark village" by the stadium with lofts visible across the street, and restaurants and bars surrounding busch. Ever heard of a place like that? Its fine...it is what it is. You will wish you had the atmosphere and I will wish the Cubs had the rings. Its a great rivalry and as I already stated, my favorite in all of sports.
Posted by: Aduncaroo | December 18, 2007 at 11:50 AM
You're right. I read that before, didn't realize it was you that posted it.
I know you've said you are from St. Louis, so I guess you'd know more than most Cubs fans, but if you think the Cardinals are doing the village, etc, to be like the Cubs, you are mistaken. They are doing it so that the Cardinals ownership can make even more money on a franchise built by the fans over the last 100 years, can continue raising ticket prices, and continue to "go after top free agents" only to come up short. Agree with me or not on that point, but I seriously doubt that is what they are modeling themselves after.
Posted by: | December 18, 2007 at 12:15 PM
I'm not saying "modeling after" so to speak, but they want what the Cubs have had for decades. An atmosphere that brings energy to the park and surrounding environment. I'm typing this from about 3 blocks away from Busch, and believe me, downtown is barren here. The Cards do want what the Cubs have in Wrigleyville. Both franchises are great, I honestly believe the two best in the NL as far as the whole package goes.
Posted by: Aduncaroo | December 18, 2007 at 12:25 PM